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12-04-05 07:03 #898
Ghengis Khan
I was looking at the figures you mentioned in disbelief - 2500 - 3000 Reais por TLN???
If I want to drink a cup of milk, I do not buy the cow!!!
The going price for TLN in other parts of Brazil is 150 - 250 Reais (not USD) I honestly think that you had been set-up.
No girl can be that good to justify to pay 10 times more for her services.
That is unreal.
These are my 2 centavos
Carlos
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12-03-05 22:12 #897
You are probably right.
GK
Originally Posted by DJ FourMoney
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12-03-05 21:19 #896Maybe you should have went with Juliana? Originally Posted by Genghis Khan
Rules are meant to be broken and while she was aggressive, she did show interest and the ability to communicate. The things you value in your provider, just makes sense to me. I doubt she would have wanted left early, raided your snack bar and ordered room service.
Sorry it turned out badly....
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12-03-05 20:54 #895The exchange rate goes up and down all the time, but I guess it will improve in our favor here pretty soon, from what I have been reading. Originally Posted by Pro
Honestly that's still affordable depending on how you want to go about it and you can still have a great time between the two numbers, I think.
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12-03-05 20:16 #894
Day 5 will not give many answers - probably more questions. At least that is what it did for me. Maybe you guys have the insight to understand more. In the end I decided that this was a one time bad experience - my first at WE and let it pass. Day 5 turned out great, which will be revealed shortly when I post it.
GK
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12-03-05 19:41 #893
Day 4 - WE
This is getting interesting.
I have no idea what I would do in the same situation after laying out all that cash and TIME ( sometimes more precious then cash )
Looking forward to WE's response. It will say a lot regarding if I ever use them again.
Starfe
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12-03-05 17:32 #892
Day 4 - WE
Again I was awaken by the phone at around 10 - and again it was the Madame. "Hello darling, I hope you have enjoyed looking through my girls. Have you found anyone you like"? "Well, there are so many pictures - that I will need one more day. Vatel69 will call you tomorrow instead of today. I am quite sure I will take at least one of your girls if we can agree on a price". "No problem baby, I am sure we will come to an agreement. Bye the way - do you have Vatel69s phone number? I don't have it". I gave her his phone number and she hung up. I went back to sleep because my stomach was still upset. I was really exited about this evening. My mind was set for WE and I hadn't been there since May.
When I get out of bed at around 11 I called Vatel69 and told him about my conversation with the Madame. He told me he had arranged for a laptop which I could use at his apartement after lunch. I could use it undisturbed while he worked.
The lunch today was at the Italian restaurant Pomodori http://www.pomodori.com.br. I visited this restaurant on my previous trip to Sao Paulo also and liked the food so much, I decided to go back on this trip. The interior is kind of like a bistro and the food is contemporary Italian. I had foie gras and ravioli filled with crayfish as a starter and rabbit with vegtables and truffled potato puree as main course. Along with two bottles of San Pellegrino water the bill was R$189. This place serves some of Sao Paulos best Italian food with a french twist.
After lunch I took a taxi back to Vatel69s apartement where he had made the laptop ready for me. I spent about three or four hours looking through the CD. I raised the bar for who I put on my shortlist considerably since yesterday and ended up with a shortlist of 6 names. When I was ready, Vatel69 immediatley called the Madame and gave her the names on my shortlist. A couple of the girls were out of the country at the moment but we got prices for the rest of the girls. Two of the girls were R$3000 and the rest was R$2000. The price was for the night from about 7 until morning - the exact time in the morning was something she wanted to leave up to me and the girl. I specified that a requirement for me was BBBJ and she said it wouldn't be a problem. We promised to call the next day with our final choice and time.
I was a bit tired so after having gong through the CD and called the Madame, I took a taxi back to my hotel. I was longing for an hours sleep before Vatel69 and I were supposed to go out to dinner together. He wanted to show me a Japanese restaurante he recommended.
After having slept for about an hour, showered and shaved, I called Vatel69 and told him I was ready. He answered that he would take a taxi to my hotel in about half an hour. He picked me up at the hotel half an hour later and we went to a Japanese restaurant in Liberdade. I don't remember the name of this restaurant, but I am sure Vatel69 does if anybody is interested. We told the chef to serve us sashimi and sushi of his recommendation for the day. We had a great meal and two bottles of sake. The bill was about R$250 total for the both of us - good value for the money.
This day was Halloween and Vatel69 had called Edson (one of the owners of WE) and he had told Vatel69 that today would be a Halloween-party inside WE where the girls would wear Halloween costumes. When we arrived - it was obvious that Vatel69 knew the staff very well. Vatel69 had called Edson earlier during the week and told them that he would bring a friend from Europe (me) to the club - now he introduced us. I had met Washington and Edson several times before and they recognized me and greeted me welcome back with a handshake. It was already crowded and all the tables downstairs were occupied, so we were shown to a table upstairs. A lively girl with curly blonde hair immediately latched on to me. She followed us upstairs, sat down at our table beside me and introduced herself as Juliana. I hadn't invited her to sit at our table, so it kind of caught me by surprised that she did this as it is not the normal way of doing it inside WE. It turned out that several other tings were not normal this evening. Vatel69 and I ordered a bottle of Red Label, and in order to try to shake her off me, I asked Juliana where the bathroom was (even though I knew quite well) to have an excuse to look around the place to see what other girls were present and not look busy with Juliana. What she did was sort of surprising too - she showed me to the bathroom, went inside with me and waited inside while I finished my business. When I had finished, she pulled down her skirt (no panties), showed me her butt and asked me if I liked her tan line. I just smiled and shook my head in disbelief. When we got back up to our table Vatel69 was talking to another girl who had sat down at our table beside him. I tried to tell Juliana that I was looking for someone else, but with her limited English she didn't understand me. In the end I had to ask Vatel69 for help. He told me to walk around the the place for a few minutes and he would take care of it. So I did. While walking around the place, I bumped into Andrea - a girl I reported on back in May. She said that it was nice to see me again and that if I needed her she would sit by the bar downstairs - then she gave me a full kiss on the lips. This is not normal inside WE either. The girls seemed much more aggressive than normal that day. When I got back upstairs, Vatel69 had told Juliana to give me some space and she had left. I asked Vatel69 if he could ask Lu (the girls manager at WE) if Najla (probably the best GFE I have ever had) would be present today. Lu is the person dressed in a suite looking like a very young boy. She is in fact a woman and works as the girl’s manager. Vatel69 called her over to the table and asked her. Lu told him that she would call Najla and let us know. A couple of minutes later she returned and told us that Najla would be coming later in the evening. I hadn't seen anyone that I really had to have this evening and the Halloween costumes kind of hid the girls attributes (not a good idea in my mind), so I decided to wait for Najla rather than calling any of the other girls over to our table.
Time went by and no sign of Najla. The available girls sitting on the upper floor got kind of restless seeing me sitting alone and not calling anybody over, so they started coming over to my table sitting down and introducing themselves without me calling for them. This is not normal practice at WE and as I have written before - a turnoff for me. Most of them didn't speak any English, so it was sort of hard for me to get rid of them in a gentlemanly fashion. In the end Vatel69 had to tell them to give me space like he did with Juliana while I was either in the bathroom or looking around the place. I think this must have happened at least 5 or 6 times.
After about two or three hours, Lu came over to our table and told us that Najla had called and told that she wouldn't be able to come tonight anyway. Now I had to start seriously considering other girls. I noticed a petite blonde sitting behind Vatel69s back by the bar on the upper floor. I tried to get eye contact with her several times but was not successful as she was in an energetic conversation with another girl beside her. Vatel69 noticed my attention towards her and went over to her and invited her to our table, but she didn't want to join us. Vatel69 had made his choice for the night and wanted to help me find someone before we left so he walked around the club for a few minutes trying to find someone he thought suited my taste. He returned after a few minutes and asked me to follow him. He led me to a tall morena with a face bearing some similarities with Angelina Jolie I thought (not the same full lips and not the same distinct chin) and introduced her to me as Luana. She didn't speak any English but she was probably the best looking girl present tonight. So we brought her over to our table. I had a really hard time trying to communicate with her and she seemed more occupied trying to get Vatel69s attention from his girl than trying to understand me. So after about half an hour without getting a good feeling about this girl, I told Vatel69 that I didn't think she liked me. I told him I would take another look around to see if any new interesting girls had shown up. No new girls were to be seen and Andrea was busy downstairs with another customer too. I went back upstairs and Luana was still sitting at our table. When I sat down she started feeling me up (as I have written before - not a good idea to do with me) and I noticed that she did the same thing with Vatel69. Her attention was on Vatel69 all the time. I turned to her and told her - "You don't like me much - do you?" All I got back was a non understanding expression on her face. I told Vatel69 to repeat the question to her in Portuguese. He did and she answered something back to him which he translated back to me as - "Yes, she says she likes you".
As I saw it, I had two possibilities - either cut my cost and go home alone or take my chances with Luana. I chose Luana and told Vatel69 that I was ready to leave with her. The four of us went downstairs and Vatel69 told me to let him negotiate the bill for us since he knew the staff and could probably get the price down. The bill presented to us turned out to be R$1944 which wasn't bad for a girl each all night, one bottle of red label and several cans of red bull. Normally it would have been around R$2500.
The taxi drove Vatel69 and his girl to his apartment and then Luana and me to my hotel. Inside the elevator Luana started kissing me and it seemed to me that everything was fine. Inside the room she was obviously very hungry because the first thing she did was call for a meal from room service and then grabbed a snack from my minibar. Then she literally jumped me and tore my clothes off. We had very passionate sex for about five - ten - minutes (I don't remember exactly) including BBBJ and then we got interrupted by a knock on the door. It was room service. I got up, signed for the bill and got back into bed. She wanted to eat now and took the meal into bed. I tried to talk a bit to her while she ate, but it was very difficult. After she had finished she wanted to sleep. I hoped it would be just for a little time, so I reluctantly turned off the light and let her sleep for a while. After I thought she had slept for less than five minutes, she turned the lights back on and told me she wanted to go home. I couldn't believe it. This kind of bad experience had never happened to me from WE before so I became quit angry and started yelling at her. She obviously didn't understand a word I was saying and left the room.
I decided to make a complaint to Edson about her the next day.
GK
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12-03-05 14:38 #891
Madame service.
To everyone contacting me about the Madame service, I would suggest you contact Vatel69 on this board about it. He made the arragements for me and the Madame only works through referals from people she trusts (that is the reason why I will not post her name or number here). Vatel69 has got other similar Madame contacts as well.
GK
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12-02-05 12:41 #890Unfortunatly with the very BAD exchange rates, Brasil has becomed a pricey destination out of my plans for the moment. I'm thinking about Argentina or Colombia for the next trip. Originally Posted by DJ FourMoney
Anyway.
Curiously Litoral Norte has never been reported here. For you guys who will be in Sao Paulo during Dec/Jan/Feb, I strongly recommand a side-trip there, specially in Maresias and Camburi, where the middle/upper class Paulistas spend their weekends and vacations ; there's TONS of girls, many 'beautiful people', and a GREAT party atmosphere. The beaches, with the 'Mata Atlantica' just behind, are IMO among the most beautiful in Brasil (think Copacabana without buildings and favelas).
This part of the SP littoral, highly popular and trendy among Paulistas, is almost unknown by gringos.
Cheers
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12-01-05 20:38 #889
Is December a good time to visit Sao Paulo?
Is anyone planning to visit Sao Paulo during x-mas?
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12-01-05 20:34 #888
Where can we find pictures of these 2000 real babe's
Does anyone know how we can get in contract with the madame that has pictures of those 2000 real babe's?
I am interested in giving it a spin.
Thanks,
Sobelizard
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12-01-05 05:21 #887
Not trying to sound cheap `
I mean I will spend more money if I need to but I had originally planned the $200 per day figure off the top of my head and it is an average amount, planning at least an 11 day trip. I don't mind spending an extra $50-100 one day because I think I will try some of the non-pro clubs as well since I look like Brad Pitt, LOL, just kidding. No really I am just not a wealthy person but I can save up some money. I love Brazilian women and the people have always seemed very fun to be around, many friends here where I live in Cali. Sperto definitely sounds like a guy I would like to hang out with though, fun and inexpensive which can be the best times in my opinion.
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12-01-05 03:14 #886Dp you think? Originally Posted by Nickster53
I thought you were pretty sure about it.
LOL
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11-30-05 19:21 #885
Mão de vaca? Não!
São Paulo, daily expenses.
Hotel: R$ 33
Food: R$ 40
Taxi: R$ 30
Girl 1, Rua Augusta, Club-girl: R$ 40
Girl 2, Rua Augusta, Club-girl: R$ 40
TOTAL: R$ 183 = US$ 83
Full Throttle,
Hmmm... this would mean that I "stay in a hostel, drinks Skol in a brown bag while walking Augusta. Only speaks to girls heavier than he...". Wrong on all three, but I do like Skol. : )
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11-30-05 18:10 #884According to his color scheme, you'd be yellow. His prices are in US dollars not Reais. Originally Posted by Tiradentes
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