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[Sperto]

Just some reflections of how Brazil have changed the last 25 years.
"Then": early nineties.
"Now": 2015.
Lets look at some of the Capitals:

* Rio de Janeiro:
Then: Rio used to have the famous Help with several hundreds of pro's. Outside was Terraço Atlântico which was like a zoo with all kinds of GPs. Ho-beach in front of Othon Palace always had lots of pro's waiting for customers. Meia Pataca was the afternoon hangout for the GPs. Outside Copacabana there where many other excellent places to meet pro's and non-pro's. Gipsys in Leblon, The Mexican club in front of Solarium, Trash at Lagoa, Ilha dos Pescadores in Barra, Pyramide in Duque de Caxias and many more clubs.
Now: In Copacabana you have Mab's with low-class pro's and a bunch of strip clubs. Not exciting at all.

* Salvador:
Then: Pelourinho used to be really popular. Very easy to pick-up pro's and non-pro's. Porto da Barra was really wild. There was even a small alley with a dozen of small GP-bars. Barra used to very popular with lots of bars and clubs. Once a week Casquinha de Siri had GP-night with hundreds of free-lancers.
Now: Pelourinho is dead. Barra as well. Porto da Barra only offers crack-wh*res. Along the orla are a couple of overpriced and lousy strip-clubs.

* Morro de São Paulo:
Then: Used to be extremely popular. Always crowded with Brazilian tourists. Wild beach-parties where the girls got free beers if they climbed on the top of the bar and took of their panties. Impossible not to get laid.
Now: Lost it's popularity. It's no longer wild. Now it's more sitting at tables with candles and listen to troubadours.

* Porto Seguro:
Then: In the early nineties this was the paradise of Brazil. Porto Seguro only had one club, Boca da Barra, the lambada club. The native girls were like shit on flies. Not exaggerating but you could easily go for a quickie on the beach with three different girls the same night. In the late nineties Porto Seguro became the spot for the young Brazilian tourists. Somebody burnt down Boca da Barra and a dozen giant clubs popped up in the outskirts of Porto Seguro, Transilvania, Jungle, Aquarius, Axé Moi, Toa-Toa etc. In Centro there were several bars that were like bars in the wild west.
Now: Porto Seguro is no longer popular among the young crowd. Many of the old clubs are overgrown. Now it's mostly bus excursions coming to Porto Seguro. Beach during the day, buying ugly T-shirts and berimbaus in the afternoon and sipping capetas in the evening.

* Arraial d'Ajuda:
Then: Even a bit wilder than Porto Seguro. Broadway had almost 20 bars. Totally crazy. Wild beach parties and lambada clubs.
Now: Not popular anymore. Only two bars left on Broadway.

* Natal:
Then: Natal was really excellent until 1998. Praia dos Artistas had several excellent clubs like Sax & Sax, Muralha and Chaplin. Tons of girls, pro's and non-pro's. When the European charter tourism started in the late nineties Ponta Negra became popular and IMO Natal was no longer interesting.
Now: Natal is quite dead.

* Canoa Quebrada:
Then: Canoa used to be one of the most popular places for the partiers. Local girls came from many different cities and all of them with the sole purpose of getting laid with gringo's, for free.
Now: Far from what it used to be. Still a decent nightlife, but many of the girls who used to spread their legs for free 20 years ago are now pro's.

* Jericoacoara:
Then: In the early nineties there were hardly any electricity. A paradise with lots of small nice bars and forró clubs.
Now: Totally exploited. all is business and buggy's roaring around.

* Fortaleza:
Then: In the early nineties the orla in Iracema had lots of clubs. The best one was Deck Bar (later changed name to Moby Dick (?)). Always crowded with pro's and non-pro's. Besides Deck Bar there were many other excellent clubs. Not to forget the scary strip-club Africa. Later ALL the bars and clubs along the orla closed. The GP-action moved up to the ho-crossing. Forró Mambo (ex-Kangaroo), Europa Bar, Café del Mar, Zipi Bar etc.
Now: Very little action in the ho-crossing. Zipi is still working. Armazem is also working.

SUMMARY: I could go on forever with many other examples but I think you get my point.

Small cities like Porto Seguro, Arraial d'Ajuda, Itacaré, Morro de São Paulo and Jericoacoara used to be paradises. Cheap, beautiful beaches, untouched and hordes of willing girls. After a couple of years those kind of places becomes popular. They start to attract tourists. Freeways are getting paved, airports opens and soon they attract another kind of tourists, package-tourists. The locals gets greedy and everything becomes expensive and the whole city gets exploited and starts to look like a mini-Buzios with neat cobbled streets, chique shops and troubadours bars.

Big touristy cities like Salvador and Fortaleza also changes. They get cleaned up and becomes boring.

So, is all the hope gone? No of course not. Brazil have 27 capitals. The majority of them are still very good. Specially if you like going for non-pro's. The less tourists they attracts the longer they stays good.
Not to forget that Brazil have thousands of small cities with no tourists and no gringo's at all. Going there as a gringo means that you becomes the main attraction.

The classic capitals like Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo have a lot to offer. If you can stand São Paulo it has the best night-life of Brazil. Rio de Janeiro still has a great nightlife as long as you are willing to explore the city outside of Copacabana and Lapa.

My advice to you is to explore Brazil. Brazil isn't only Copacabana. Explore and you'll get rewarded. You'll find your sex-paradises where you least expect it. When you find them remember to keep your mouth shut. Sharing your Shangri-la of bundas on a forum, with mostly lurkers who are happy to take and never gives back, is not a good idea at all.

Have fun!

[Explorer8939]

The Falls is amazing. As per coming here you will find several Paraguanas here for 50 reais. They do basic sex for 50 but if you negotiate a little extra for them you can easily get BBBJ and extras. In last 1. 5 hrs I just fucked two girls. Of course they were not super hot girls just an average 5 or so but if you want some thing cheap you can find them in front of many sex motels also at bus stops they be posing as if they are waiting for a bus.

Happy Hunting Guys.

John.

I am wondering about the mechanics of that business of finding girls hanging around bus stops, being here in Foz right now. Do you hire a cab and drive around looking for them, or do you walk from your hotel, I mean how does that work?

I am staying at the Ambassador hotel, which is convenient for catching buses to the Falls or the airport or Paraguay, but is probably far from the sex motels. It is walkable to the Clinica Bem Estar, at Travessa Ceara 439, which has fairly hot girls that will give you a massage and more for 200 reales ($70).

[John]

The Falls is amazing. As per coming here you will find several Paraguanas here for 50 reais. They do basic sex for 50 but if you negotiate a little extra for them you can easily get BBBJ and extras. In last 1. 5 hrs I just fucked two girls. Of course they were not super hot girls just an average 5 or so but if you want some thing cheap you can find them in front of many sex motels also at bus stops they be posing as if they are waiting for a bus.

Happy Hunting Guys.

John.

[RedneckRoyalty]

I'll be there next month. Anyone have any info on P4P there?

[Sperto]

A short update on Porto Seguro and Arraial dÁjuda.

GENERAL:
* The tourism here continues to go down. Main tourism are excursions from mainly Minas Gerais.
* These places no longer attracts the young and wild party crowd. Now the tendence is more to families.
* The police has down a hard work killing of the local bandits. There still occurs some shootings. The majority of the crackudos are gone.

NON-PRO ACTION:
* It's still a good place to meet non-pro's. Both local girls as tourist girls. However it's far from the gringo-paradise it used to be.
* Many of the good old bars that attracted the local girls are gone. Most are turned into shops. Many of the remaining bars scares away the locals with high prices.
* Local girls: I prefer going for the local girls instead of the tourist girls. There are many beautiful dark-skinned local girls. Might take a day or two before you get them in bed. If you don't mind light-skinned mineiras there are plenty to choose from.
* Be quick when you'll find a girl that you like. You'll have competition from many local guys whose main interest are f*cking tourist girls.

PRO ACTION:
* Ho-houses: There is a strip club in Porto Seguro, Bagdad Café. I haven't tried it this year. There are a bunch of bars with low-end GPs in the Mangue. The area isn't considered safe so be careful if you go there. I didn't see any doable girls. Outside Porto Seguro there are some better ho-bars in the big favela Baiano. Only go there if you're together with some locals.
* Streetworkers, Porto Seguro: There are very few left. You´ll find them on Passarela do Álcool and down at Praça do Relógio.
* Streetworkers, Arraial dÁjuda: Almost all are gone. I could only spot two SWs. Both crackudos. Propably more SWs in Carnval time.
* Caution: The pro's here are known to drug their customers and steal all their belongings.

NIGHT-LIFE:
* Porto Seguro: The drink stands at Passarela do Álcool, the bars at Praça do Relógio and the parties at Axé Moi and Ilha dos Aquarius.
* Arraial d'Ajuda: The drinks stands at the main praça, Bar Buda, Beco dos Cores and the clubs Tex Mex and Morocha.
* Morocha is one of the best alternatives. Unfortunately they charge R$10 entrance on the best days which scares away the local girls. However, I think I've rarely seen so many beautiful girls in one place like I saw there last Friday.

[Sperto]

Macapá:

The forums last update on Macapá was my own update made in 2003. Macapá is very much off the beaten track and is often skipped in the guidebooks.

Macapá is the capital of Amapá. The city is very hot, slow going and with a pleasant wild west atmosphere. The people are open, friendly and honest. The sights can be seen in half a day. The Fortaleza de São José de Macapá, Marco Zero do Ecuador, Trapiche Eliezer Levy, Igreja São José and Museu Sacaca. The only option for a beach is Fazendinha. A strip of restaurants and bars along the Amazon river. Dark brown water. You don't go to Macapá to watch the sights.

The only reasons to come here are party and women. I've seen no other gringos at all. The gringo-attraction couldn't be higher. Being blond and blue-eyed works like a charm in Macapá, but I guess anybody who looks different will have success in Macapá.

THE PRO-SCENE:
As I only go for regular non-pro girls in Macapá I can't tell for certain about the pro-scene. However, you could try Jambeirinho, Bar da Loura, Casa das Primas, Boite Bolivar, Bar do Chico, Casa das maquinas, Casa da Chá, Casa do Neto, Casa da Bahiana and Boulevard. The last one is supposed to be the most exclusive casa in Macapá. You better check with taxi drivers about which casas that are currently working.

THE NON-PRO SCENE:
Dance-clubs, forró clubs and discos: Companhia do Bolero, Pesque e Pague, Armazem Beer and others.
Bars: Lots of outside bars along Beira Rio in centro, close to Trapiche. Farther away on Beira Rio even more bars like Bier Haus, La Conga Café and a dozen more bars.
Favourite club: Companhia do Bolero on Sundays. R$10 entrance, beer R$3, large forró-club with lots of girls. Most dressed in short skirts or tiny shorts. Many hot girls. The girls comes to you like flies on shit. The club is povão-style with a bit rough atmosphere.

THE QUALITY OF THE WOMEN:
A very mixed quality. As in most cities in Nordeste there are many chubby thick girls without necks and with squared heads. There are also some breathtakingly beautiful girls. Girls that are real knockouts with killer-bodies. The girls are very curious about gringos. Take phone numbers, date and invite them back to your hotel. I got a lot of quality sex for free in Macapá.

SAFETY:
The impression of Macapá is that the city is very calm and safe. Not true! Before I heard it's the 36th most violent cities in the world I took a nightly 30 block-stroll. Apparently there are quite a few assaltos, specially on buses.

[JameSpw]

I am off to work in Macae for a few week, not off-shore but on land. I have done a number of searches on the web regarding strip clubs and mongering in Macae but with very little results. Does anyone know what the scene is like in Macae, strip clubs, working girls, bars with working girls etc?

I am sure I will find some places myself with the help of the taxi drivers and locals, but would love to get an idea what to expect.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Any luck in Macae, I'm there next week.

[Henry R]

Sad but true. I still love Brazil of the country and people itself, maybe even more so, but the mongering situation gets increasingly diminished.

There's a couple of places you haven't mentioned (and I know they are not your favourites but for adding to an overall picture)

Sao Paulo continues to thrive. Somewhat on the standard and minimum price / value ratio of a good RJ Centro private apartment but different in style. The downside is that, outside of the places for sex, Sao Paulo is hard work. Not that you can't enjoy yourself, since you can, and in considerable style, but it is a hard work city to get around, it is enormous, tiring, and it's expensive just to cross the road. For those that enjoy an 'inside guide' I'm sure ABG will keep them right, but for others, be prepared for a long getting-to-know-the-place. No beach of course.

Then there's Belem. I've not checked this year yet and maybe it will change with the World Cup but it has been constantly adept at opening new seedy holes or re-inventing existing ones. For the more choosy, Locomotiva offers the more affordable upscale options. Downsides are that it is miles from anywhere, lacks any big city amenities, and no-one speaks any English (in fact their Portuguese can be barely recognisable). And if you don't like seedy and slightly dangerous, your options are very limited. And although it's on the coast, you have to do quite a bit of travelling to find anything resembling a beach.

BH. Are they really going to close down the high rise shag-shops? Rather a lot to just get rid of. And no beach of course.

I know an American who visited Belem a few years ago.

He said the humidity was extreme.

[George90]

Anyone have any info on termas, boates with gdps here or strip clubs with gdps to take out etc.

Thanks

I just saw this post today. I was in Governador Valadares for a few days in 2004. I spent a several hours during the day looking for a boate or strip club for the evening. It was pretty dry. There were no termas. That seems to be mainly a Rio phenomenon. I did find one strip club and returned in the evening. I don't remember the name or its location. It was large with a lot of open space inside. The garotas ranged from 6 to say 8.5. It was not busy the day and time I was there. I took a morena with a what I consider to be a very nice ass for a fair price.

I can't help much. It seemed to me that GV was not a big P4P destination in 2004. There was. possibly still is, a great deal of hang gliding off the mountain near the city. If you go, avoid the Hotel Fenix. There were a few clerks there that got off on padding guests bills with unordered extras.

[Sperto]

I would appreciate if somebody can share some updates on Macapá. I RTFF and the only report I found was my own report from 2003.
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...631#post133631.

[FuckAfMedDig]

Anyone have any info on termas, boates with gdps here or strip clubs with gdps to take out etc.

Thanks

[Jan 156]

This post is not about whining or complaining. It's just a reflection how the night scene has diminished in some brazilian cities during the last 20 years.

Sad but true. I still love Brazil of the country and people itself, maybe even more so, but the mongering situation gets increasingly diminished.

There's a couple of places you haven't mentioned (and I know they are not your favourites but for adding to an overall picture)

Sao Paulo continues to thrive. Somewhat on the standard and minimum price / value ratio of a good RJ Centro private apartment but different in style. The downside is that, outside of the places for sex, Sao Paulo is hard work. Not that you can't enjoy yourself, since you can, and in considerable style, but it is a hard work city to get around, it is enormous, tiring, and it's expensive just to cross the road. For those that enjoy an 'inside guide' I'm sure ABG will keep them right, but for others, be prepared for a long getting-to-know-the-place. No beach of course.

Then there's Belem. I've not checked this year yet and maybe it will change with the World Cup but it has been constantly adept at opening new seedy holes or re-inventing existing ones. For the more choosy, Locomotiva offers the more affordable upscale options. Downsides are that it is miles from anywhere, lacks any big city amenities, and no-one speaks any English (in fact their Portuguese can be barely recognisable). And if you don't like seedy and slightly dangerous, your options are very limited. And although it's on the coast, you have to do quite a bit of travelling to find anything resembling a beach.

BH. Are they really going to close down the high rise shag-shops? Rather a lot to just get rid of. And no beach of course.

[Sperto]

This post is not about whining or complaining. It's just a reflection how the night scene has diminished in some brazilian cities during the last 20 years.

Rio de Janeiro: Help gone, Meia Pataca has changed and also other very good clubs like Gipsy, Cozumel and some Lagoa clubs are long gone.

Salvador: Pelourinho used to be excellent for pro's and non-pro's but today it's quite dead. Barra used to have lots of bars and many women looking for gringos. Only a few bars remains. Porto the Barra also used to have lots of bars and a small alley filled with mini-bars and pro's. Also history. Just a few bars remaining with mostly crack-ho's.

Natal: In the 90's before the charter tourism arrived in Natal it was a paradise. In Praia dos Artistas there were two bars, Sax and Muralha, with hords of easy non-pro's. Gone.

Fortaleza: Also in the 90's, the sea-front of Iracema were a cluster of bars and clubs. The famous Deck Bar (Moby Dick) were always full of women, pro's and non-pro's. Today there are no bars left on that strip.

Manaus: Continues to have a great nightlife, but many of the really god spots in centro are history, Praça the Polícia, Mitoso etc.

Porto Seguro: In the early 90's before Porto Seguro were invaded by the tourism industry it was the most outstanding place in Brazil for picking up non-pro's. The major club was the Lambateria. You could easily score two non-pro's there every night. When the tourism industry arrived somebody burnt down the Lambateria and opened up a bunch of miserable clubs outside of the city.

Arraial the'Ajuda: Same story as Porto Seguro. It used to be heaven for meeting non-pro's. Broadway were filled of bars and crowded every evening. Today there are mostly T-shirt and souvenir stores left on Broadway.

Morro de São Paulo: The island used to be very popular for the young crowd. The beach parties were totally wild and people having sex on the beach were normal. Today it's too neat and tidy with boring troubadour bars.

Jericoacoara: In the 90's it was an unspoilt paradise. Beautiful scenery and wild parties at night. Today the charm is gone. Buggies roaming the streets and no longer any crazy parties.

[AltoBomGosto]

I don't agree with this. I have been to Belo H. And there are not all that many HOT garotas there. I also went to a couple of the larger towns in Minas with the same observation. There are lots of average chicas looking for a BFE because of the poverty. You can play them and get a GFE from them.

But the hot good-looking chicas all go to Rio or S. P. To work as GDPs. The chicas who are left in the small towns are there because they can't leave.

It is no different than in small town USA. The HOT babes go to HOLLYWOOD, the average babes join the army, the ugly babes get fat and pregnant.

Absolutly correct, the Hot mineiras go to São Paulo!

[Brugal8]

Headed to Goiania in two weeks and haven't seen any info on this city.

Can anyone provide some details?

Thanks

Great city, it has the reputation of being a place full of gorgeous non pros.

For pros check:

-Real Prive.

-Estancia MM.

-There are a lot of good sex clubs in this city.