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  1. #903
    These movements have been seen for a long time in the Plaza de Armas, I think there are no independents there, so I try not to contact street girls, preferably I look for company in portals where I can find a companion who has an apartment or who goes to hotels and the ones that you can look for and take to the hotel that you decide with her at the moment, because when they are frequently in a hotel, they paint that it is the same scheme as the girls who are on the street, ladies with a fierce dog that stays with their worked.

  2. #902

    Go For women that have already been vetted for safer experiences

    Quote Originally Posted by UsaInEurope  [View Original Post]
    You all are amazing.

    Cablecar -- I can totally picture myself in your shoes. Glad you didn't get held up at gunpoint!

    Hothof -- great perspective. I know very little Spanish and this was very helpful information. The plaza sounds like fun but also like it could go wrong very fast. And then you're trapped in a strange room with a strange woman and anybody else can come into the room and then you're in trouble. Best for a gringo to avoid, unfortunately.

    The coffee shops seem like the best bet but not worth traveling to Santiago for.

    I have 2 months to kill so am thinking of Arg / Brazil / Colombia.
    I've been here for a couple weeks and my start has been slow as I am relatively cheap and looking for safe options. The culture here is not always like some popular mongering countries where you can do video calls or meet the woman in person before you commit to anything. I won't claim to be as knowledgeable as some of the Santiago vets on this forum (and by the way I am very grateful for those that have posted), but it is of my opinion that most of the mongering game is done discreetly underground in Santiago. Well at least the more cost effective, more controllable options. When dealing online, sometimes you literally don't get to see the person's entire face until you're literally opening the door to their apartment. It's not always like that though, but sometimes it can be the case.

    I feel like I am starting to understand what works for me = Pre-vetted women on the local forums. USAinEurope, while I will not suggest this place is better than the other countries you listed, I highly suggest you check out SectorVIP. CL before making a decision. This website is littered with women, many of which have numerous experience reviews that are very thorough. Rompelo. CL forum has a good forum to find women with good reviews (shout to the user that suggested looking for the pre-vetted women with good experiences on there). But for numerous reasons I think Sectorvip is much better. Everything is much more organized, all the info you need to see is centralized on sectorvip. When you deal with a woman, initial interactions can seem off-putting when you compare it to other countries at times, but when you actually meet them you can receive A-1 service; very professional and very hygenic. I'll give a brief summary of my most recent experience.

    Found woman that I liked that had good reviews. Talked to her on whatsapp briefly where the responses at times weren't immediate, but were reasonable enough speed. She gave me a schedule and eventually I locked into a time. She gave me the address, upon arrival she gave me the apartment number and told me to check-in with front desk (personally I kinda like the check-in at the desk because to me it suggests they care about security -- The front desk people clearly know what the woman is doing). I don't like to walk around with physical passport for obvious reasons, I keep copy instead. Gave copy to the receptionist, he did not like that it was a copy, after he asked for physical and I told him I don't have, I believe he called the woman I came to see and then he gave me the all clear. When I got upstairs to the room and she let me in she told me that typically you need physical ID -- news to me as I have stayed in roughy 7 different places and dealt with numerous other businesses that required ID and none of them complained or even hesitated when I showed paper copy of passport. Anyway.

    Upon getting into the apartment, it was a very clean and organized space (after the session we talked and she later confirmed the space was strictly for business and was not her personal residence). She sat me down and we briefly went over the rules and she asked me what I would like and what I wouldn't like. It was almost like I was ordering at a restaurant LOL, it was all so structured. Personally one of the more structured experiences I have had of this kind in my life. Hygiene is taken serious with many of the women in Chile so I was ordered to go to the shower, wash my private area and arm pits, then spray axe body spray on both areas. If I wanted kisses I needed to use the toothpaste with my fingers to clean my teeth and use the mouthwash after. She gave me a disposable towel. Make no mistake this business was being run like a well oiled-machine! LOL. After coming out of the room, she cleaned off my the with a wipe of some sort and thoroughly inspected it. Apparently I passed the hygiene test because they will not do uncovered BJ (sin preservativo) if you're hygiene is not good. She kissed my head as a nice gesture and from there we kissed deeply on the bed for several minutes full tongue and all, she was not shy at all here. Uncovered BJ followed, not all world quality, but def was def good and included spit and saliva, and it was not rushed.

    Then to the action. Sidenote, she did set a timer for 1 HR on her phone, which is respectable and fair. I don't believe it was set from the time of my exact arrival, maybe slightly after but I have no qualms with the alloted time I was given.

    Intercourse did not last as long as I preferred as she outdueled me and I didn't pace myself properly LOL. Props to her, she won that round, I'll give her that LOL. I rushed to pull out and go for the money shot (they call it oral americana here), but I didn't make it in time and ended up spraying all on her body. She did her best to try to get her mouth there in time, and it was def no fault of hers that I missed. We had a good laugh about it then we laid in the bed together and just had nice convo afterwards for a bit. She was a nice girl. The women can seem cold on whatsapp and even in person (just from looks), but when you actually get to talk to them in person they can be really nice, nurturing and caring people in my experiences. With time still left she randomly asks me if I want more oral, in other words she attempted to resuscitate me for round 2. I want to make it clear that she did not try to rush me after I was done round one, she never checked the clock once, and I never requested for a round two, out of sheer quality customer service she went for it. Personally I'm not a fast recharger, but she seemed like she just genuinely wanted to eat more the so I said why not go for it LOL. It felt good but my the was dead, after eating for a minute or two we chuckle about how I'm not coming back to life and then we just lay together in bed and talk more. Eventually the timer on her phone goes off, but we prolly talk for a few minutes there after organically and then she's like okay that's your time.

    Damage was 45000 pesos. I gave her 5000 tip, she was not expecting a tip and she never once asked me for a tip. She was a nice girl and had great customer service. She did not offer anal (sometimes called greco) but many on the forum do. She said I can pull her hair and I lightly smacked her ass a few times without asking and she didn't even flinch. It was fun and very professional.

    Elsilencio. CL has reviews on many of their women, but its mostly for the woman where the damage is often double or more then what I paid. I didn't find many women at all in the price range I paid that had reviews on elsilencio. Not to say there's nothing wrong with paying more for those women, just stating what I saw. Personally I was willing to pay 100-120000 pesos in worse case scenario if I only trusted the vetted profiles on elsilencio, but after finding sectorvip I just felt like the mongering was so much more cost effective. I appreciated the customer service and the environment they attempt to create in the name of safe, fun times. Another thing I like about the forums of the three sites I mentioned is that often times the women will chime in on their review posts (as typical on other review places like google reviews). It just creates a more trustworthy environment. I had a friend that had got baited and switched online, and when he arrived the place also operated as casa instead of the domain of an independent worker. It wasn't an experience he liked much at all to be short. FWIW, he did not go with a pre-vetted woman.

    And if it wasn't clear, the woman I saw, the reviews were correct, she met the expectations I had based on pictures and reviews, and it was definitely not a bait and switch. You can def score predictably with relative ease on a site like sectorvip if your budget is lower and you are looking for pre-vetted women.

    Hope this helps, but yeah, if you are looking for safer, fun times, without the pressures of buying drinks or dances, I strongly suggest you hit a site that has sometype of forum that shows the reviews of the girls and go with that.

    FWIW, sites like tinder and Badoo (there are not many great lookers IMO on badoo) did not work for me I was not getting much matches. Personally I believe it's because I am African American but that's a different topic. I did get some good traction with profiles on seeking arrangements and mysugardaddy but obviously I did not want to commit money just to converse with those women. I met a couple real women on the street that I could've pursued but they just weren't up to my standards to really give me the motivation to pursue them aggressively. They definitely wanted to see me though. With some confidence and patience, I think you def can find real women out and about (and I don't mean streetwalkers, which are easy to identify IMO) if that's the angle you want to take. You can do real cheap dates like laying in the park and / or ice cream, which are both staples of Chilean culture.

  3. #901
    You all are amazing.

    Cablecar -- I can totally picture myself in your shoes. Glad you didn't get held up at gunpoint!

    Hothof -- great perspective. I know very little Spanish and this was very helpful information. The plaza sounds like fun but also like it could go wrong very fast. And then you're trapped in a strange room with a strange woman and anybody else can come into the room and then you're in trouble. Best for a gringo to avoid, unfortunately.

    The coffee shops seem like the best bet but not worth traveling to Santiago for.

    I have 2 months to kill so am thinking of Arg / Brazil / Colombia.

  4. #900
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBowl  [View Original Post]
    Went twice. One time I found a nice chica, got her number and dated her several times.

    Second time got robbed at gunpoint.

    Literally hit and miss LOL.
    Do you mind elaborating on how the second time went down for the safety of others?

    Over the past week or so I have loosely studied plaza de armas. I have sat in the square as well as walked the square to observe operations. I have spoken to women and even got a number. There is real pimpery going on in this square, either that or some of the women are being extorted for protection. Or considering the robbery attempts maybe the women are in on it.

    One day I'm Watching two women on the outskirts of the Square looking inward. One of the woman I had seen every day I was at the Square, so I knew she was working. They look to be standing by themselves and they are not giving eye contact, but if you know you know. I watch a potential buyer walk up to them, he talks to them roughly for 45 seconds or less and they strike a deal and they start walking towards one of the buildings. With no phone or vocal contact of any sort, the main Girl I knew briefly splits from the group and walks to a man roughly 40 to 50 feet from where they were standing and grabs wipes from him, then returns back to the group heading towards the building. Around the moment she reconnects with the group another man joins the group and he is managing the cash transaction. I could not tell if he was giving change or if he was just excepting the money, my guess is that it looked like he was giving change. No phone or vocal contact was made to this guy that was managing the money aspect either. It all happened so smoothly you can tell everyone is watching and they are just waiting for the first domino to fall. They have a role in the process and they are just waiting for the time when they need to execute their role.

    Now I am not saying every female in Plaza de Armas operates like this but this is what I saw and that is what turned me off. Those females knew those guys and those guys just hanging in that square managing the operations. They try to stand off to the side as if they don't have anything to do with anything until you realize they in on it too. Those women aren't the true independent SWs you typically see in other countries.

    I'm still working on cracking the code here and I'm very appreciative of all the posts here. I truly believe the mongering game is alive and thriving here, the problem is this place in my opinion is not suited for tourist mongering like many other typical destinations are. The mongering here is much more suitable for locals and Spanish fluent people. If you are not one of these two and are on a tight budget you have to work much harder to reap the cream of the crop. I feel like a groove can be found with the online options, but so far imo, the women have low patience for non Spanish fluent people and you have to navigate a lot of bait and switch tactics. It's a bit frustrating when you've been to mongering destinations that deliver on a silver platter, but just got to keep working at it. Based on what I've seen on this forum and personal experience, I def believe the industry is thriving here, it's just that if you want something where you have more control it seems it will take a lot more work and patience to attain. Especially if you are picky and on a tight budget, but as they say beggars can't be choosers I guess LOL.

  5. #899

    Plaza de armas

    Went twice. One time I found a nice chica, got her number and dated her several times.

    Second time got robbed at gunpoint.

    Literally hit and miss LOL.

  6. #898

    Questions About Santiago

    We will be taking a cruise in January, which starts in Buenos Aires and ends at Valparaiso. The cruise company will provide transportation from Valparaiso to the Santiago airport. My better half will be on a day long excursion, so I am going to try to put this time to good use. This will be the first time that I ever try mongering in another country.

    The first place that I want to go to is this establishment: https://www.lamansiondelmasaje.cl/.

    I plan on partaking in this service, Masaje Ertico Supreme Dual. The Supreme Dual Massage is performed by two beautiful masseuses, a four-hand massage that will cover your entire body, which in addition to enjoying total body relaxation, you will be able to interact in a sensual and erotic way with both masseuses, the Dual Massage thus achieves your greater Fantasy and Double pleasure. Whose end of the Erotic Massage culminates with an exciting and pleasant moment. You'll be surprised! (for more details only by phone) This service will be approximately $100, which is less than what I pay for a basic rub-and-tug where I live. Now, as unexperienced as I am with regard to Santiago, could someone please let me know what this service might entail? Also, how should I interpret "sensual and erotic way with both masseuses"? If this ends up being just a hand job or oral sex, I would be OK with that.

    After this, I would like to find an escort with whom I could spend time. I know that I will be branded as a "weirdo," but I find spanking a woman to be a tremendous turn-on. I have been looking at this website: https://cl.hushescort.com/, and I have been looking for a girl like this: CHILENITA APPRETADITA Con Una FRESITA RICA Par a Que LO GOZE +569*67688. I am looking at this type of girl for two reasons: ORAL-NATURAL and NALGADAS. According to her ad, 60 minutes is $50000 pesos, which is approximately $57 USD. However, from what I have read from this forum, getting a girl to respond to your calls / texts can be kind of hit or miss. Any suggestions about how to increase my chances of meeting a girl like this?

    Or, would I be better off trying to find a "coffee-with-legs" shop that has workers who are willing to engage in sex? I understand that I may miss out on the spanking, but I am usually under the impression that "money talks. " Typically, how much is an engagement with this type of woman? Also, what are some establishments that would fit this description?

    My last concern is my complete and utter lack of the ability to speak Spanish. If I try to contact these places or girls, will there be someone there who can speak English? Or would it be better to hire a guide that could translate for me?

    Yes, I know that I have no made any reports to this forum, but, as I mentioned, this is my first attempt at mongering in a foreign country. If my endeavors are successful, I vow to make a report that describe my experiences. And unfortunately, I need you to reply to this forum, as I don't currently have access to PMs. Also, we will be leaving for Buenos Aires on 01/02/2023.

    I know that I can RTFF, but there are not many posts from 2022 here. Thank you so much for any information that you can provide to me.

    Math1956.

  7. #897

    Plaza de Armas, brief observation

    Last week, I went to the plaza de armas to check out the chicas. I was there in the early afternoon and there were quite a few of them already, mostly gathered in small groups. But there was nothing there that I liked. I guess that the better looking ones arrive later. I can confirm Cablecar's reports on the plaza. The girls do not try to make contact and there are indeed quite a few older and fatter ones hooking. A taxi driver advised me not to trust anyone over there and that there are a lot of thieves and scammers about, even in daytime.

  8. #896

    Plaza de armas. Again

    Don't know if women are even allowed in "those" cafes. ? At least I haven't seen any in them except for the ones in skimpy bikinis.

    I found the girl Inwas looking for. After dancing with a another one at a Cafe I wanted more and went to la plaza de armas. She was writing on the phone all the time, even when I passed real close and tried to make eye contact. I almost wanted to leave and call it a day, but then I overcame my shyness, walked up to her and asked if she was "working". What's the worst that can happen? She answered yes with a beautiful smile and had me with her happy laugh, too. She wanted 20.000 (something like 22 Dollars) for herself plus the room. We went to the same place as with the one last week and now the place only charged 4.000 pesos! Seems like I was ripped of last time when I paid 25.000.

    She was really nice and young and beautiful, but everything was quite quick. Next time I plan to spend more money and time on her. She readily gave me her phone number so I don't have to search her anymore but can simply (hopefully) make a date next time. Gave her a tip of 5.000 which she was really happy about.

    Many of the black women stand together in groups. I find it easier to talk to one that's on her own, I guess it's the same with most guys? I've seen some men just sitting in the shade and were approached by girls, maybe this is also a good strategy? I'll have to try out.

  9. #895
    Quote Originally Posted by CableCar  [View Original Post]
    I like the cafes con piernas in the basement of Galeria Central. There's around 10-15 of them. "Playing the field" gives me the feeling I'm an attractive guy. Sometimes you score, sometimes you don't but still have a good time with pretty girls. Just like life should be if I was more attractive. The first time I was there one girl quickly offered to come to my hotel for 200 Dollars but there was no real chemistry between us and 200 is a lot. I declined. The second girl in a different place offered sex in the toilet which I accepted because I liked her. A quick BJ and a quick fuck, "down and dirty" but good. 50 Dollars for drinks, dancing, touching and sex in the end. Something like 30 minutes. Total.

    Un poco de Espanol is helpful but the girls also use googletranslate to help. Today one girl with a beautiful lean body after dancing and talking gave me her phone number, but hasn't offered more (yet? She said it's her first day and I believe her that she's new because she seemed a bit nervous with me. So I would feel bad because she seems so vulnerable. But I don't know if I could resist if she offered sex. ? Her body is so attractive to me. Am I a bad person for that?

    Street prostitution is happening all day at the central market and the plaza del armas, but 90 % are fat black women. So if you're into them you're very lucky! There are some trannies too, at least I think they are. They have nice bodies, but their faces look a bit weird. Today I saw a beautiful smaller girl dressed like a working girl but she was talking onthe phone all the time so I'm not sure she was looking for clients. She hada great body and face but she didn't look very friendly so I think sex wouldn't be very nice with her. Most of the girls in LOS cafes de piernas look much more friendly! But I still like looking at la plaza and hoping for attractive girls. I saw one last week but was too shy to talk to her. Now I'm trying to spot her again, but haven't so far.
    Thanks for your review on Cafe con Piernas. I do plan to check them out, and I do like the idea of a USD $50 quickie in the bathroom. LOL. USD $200 is way too much. My lack of Spanish I expect will be a problem. Am lining up a tour guide to do a walking tour around Santiago, and she is quite opened minded and will bring me to a Cafe Con Piernas. The ones with the "darkened windows" LOL. She does say they are quite popular and serve good coffee. Not that I care. LOL. But she will act as my translator. Will use her to chat up other girls and negotiate a incall price for me. This is about 1 month from now. Will post a detailed review when I have done the dirty deed.

  10. #894

    Plaza de armas

    Today I went to la plaza de armas again in the afternoon. Saw a nice girl who looked at me and approached me. Would give her an 7 or 8 out of ten. Now I know how it works! Please don't think now "of course that's how it works", it was my first time with a streetwalker. She offered me sex in a room for 50 Dollars or somewhere else (on a public toilet?? Don't know if I understood her correctly.) for 25. Chose the room of course. She took me to an entry in a building right on the edge of the plaza, had to show my ID to a "clerk", number was written down, which was a bit disconcerting, but gave me the impression everything was legal and regulated. Many women and men walk up and down the stairs, busy place but took away my anxiosness.

    Its important to ask girl about her age, when I arrived at the plaza, the police was checking some very young looking girls, and you don't want to be caught with an underage one. Mine said she was 22 and she looked that age. Went into an old building, looked like a really old administrative building from the inside. Paid 25 Dollars to a woman who seems to be the "landlady", or at least her manager, then we went upstairs to a really small room (50-60 sqfeet? Washed my hands, the girl went to the bathroom too. Gave her 25 dollars (in Chilean pesos, they don't accept card or American dollars), and went down to business for around 20 minutes net time.

    Wasn't the greatest sex of my life, of course, but she was friendly and really good looking. Now I ha e the impression that its not so difficult to find good lookong girls at the plaza after all. I'll certainly be back. I was there late afternoon, maybe even more selection in the evening? I feel much safer in daylight though. I enjoy having the means to casually fuck girls many years younger than I am but my conscience is thinking about how desperate a girl must be to sell her body several times a day for 25 dollars each. ? Well in the end she asked for a tip, gave her 10 dollars and she seemed satisfied.

  11. #893

    Cafe con piernas in Santiago

    I like the cafes con piernas in the basement of Galeria Central. There's around 10-15 of them. "Playing the field" gives me the feeling I'm an attractive guy. Sometimes you score, sometimes you don't but still have a good time with pretty girls. Just like life should be if I was more attractive. The first time I was there one girl quickly offered to come to my hotel for 200 Dollars but there was no real chemistry between us and 200 is a lot. I declined. The second girl in a different place offered sex in the toilet which I accepted because I liked her. A quick BJ and a quick fuck, "down and dirty" but good. 50 Dollars for drinks, dancing, touching and sex in the end. Something like 30 minutes. Total.

    Un poco de Espanol is helpful but the girls also use googletranslate to help. Today one girl with a beautiful lean body after dancing and talking gave me her phone number, but hasn't offered more (yet? She said it's her first day and I believe her that she's new because she seemed a bit nervous with me. So I would feel bad because she seems so vulnerable. But I don't kmow if I could resist if she offered sex. ? Her body is so attractive to me. Am I a bad person for that?

    Street prostitution is happening all day at the central market and the plaza del armas, but 90 % are fat black women. So if you're into them you're very lucky! There are some trannies too, at least I think they are. They have nice bodies, but their faces look a bit weird. Today I saw a beautiful smaller girl dressed like a working girl but she was talking onthe phone all the time so I'm not sure she was looking for clients. She hada great body and face but she didn't look very fri3 ndly so I think sex wouldn't be very nice with her. Most of the girls in LOS cafes de piernas look much more friendly! But I still like looking at la plaza and hoping for attractive girls. I saw one last week but was too shy to talk to her. Now I'm trying to spot her again, but haven't so far.

  12. #892
    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeFan  [View Original Post]
    The cafes I mentioned are totally safe. They are in center of town. They are surrounded by legitimate businesses. Nothing to worry about. There was one more I saw when I was with someone, so I couldn't find out about it. Name was something like Tarantino, on Banderas, a block away from Museum of pre-Columbian art going away from Place de Armes. It was totally lit, with 4 baristas in skimpy dresses standing around. My companion asked, incredulously if they were the "waitresses". I assume if you engaged them, they would take you to a more private space behind the front area. I should mention that I was only out and about during daylight hours, nothing after dark.
    Ok, noted and thanks for the tip. I will probably be checking them out in the daytime too.

  13. #891

    Santiago cafes

    The cafes I mentioned are totally safe. They are in center of town. They are surrounded by legitimate businesses. Nothing to worry about. There was one more I saw when I was with someone, so I couldn't find out about it. Name was something like Tarantino, on Banderas, a block away from Museum of pre-Columbian art going away from Place de Armes. It was totally lit, with 4 baristas in skimpy dresses standing around. My companion asked, incredulously if they were the "waitresses". I assume if you engaged them, they would take you to a more private space behind the front area. I should mention that I was only out and about during daylight hours, nothing after dark..

    Quote Originally Posted by AngmoLover  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the excellent report. I want to ask you if its these cafes with the darken windows are safe? Did you feel comfortable in there. Were there surly looking iffy characters around? Was there security? I will be in Santiago next month. Definitely looking to hit these places. The price point is good.

  14. #890

    Great Report

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeFan  [View Original Post]
    I was able to answer my own question. Used World Traveller's Santiago map. These are NOT coffee shops that anyone would wander into just looking for a cup of coffee. There seem to be several Cafe Gazu's. I visited the one at 321 Miraflores. Darkened windows, and the room was quite dark as well. But enough light to see 3 baristas in revealing bikinis, all decent looking. Price was one or 2 K for a drink, 2-3 k for chica drink, which came with a 2 to 3 minute baile. Good body contact, and allowed touching of breasts and ass. After the 2 to 3 minutes, they ask if you want another dance. I asked how much for a short session, the chica said 50 k, and I said maybe later. BTW, my Spanish is very basic. I do not believe Cafe Rafu on that same street still exists. The signage for Club Rojo still exists, but it seems locked up, though I was there about 4:30, it could open later. I then went to 839 Merced, the Galeria Plaza de Armes. Down a flight of stairs, there are three darkened Cafes, each with the name Cafe Karen, with 2 to 3 baristas in each. I went in one, had a similar experience to Cafe Gazu. Then went to a forth darkened cafe, which had no name. During the dance, the chica pulled down her top, exposing cute breasts, and allowing touching. Also, she stuck her hand in my pants. Good upselling effort, I must say, as I was just planning to do reconnaisance for a future trip. I asked her for a session, and she quoted 50 k, but when I said maybe later, she asked how much I had, I said 30 k, and she led me to the bathroom, as referred to on WT's map. She started with a few minutes of oral naturale, then slipped on a condom, pulled down her bottom, and leaned over a stool she had dragged into the bathroom with us. About as down and dirty as it gets, but it was fun.
    Thanks for the excellent report. I want to ask you if its these cafes with the darken windows are safe? Did you feel comfortable in there. Were there surly looking iffy characters around? Was there security? I will be in Santiago next month. Definitely looking to hit these places. The price point is good.

  15. #889

    Santiago Cafes

    I was able to answer my own question. Used World Traveller's Santiago map. These are NOT coffee shops that anyone would wander into just looking for a cup of coffee. There seem to be several Cafe Gazu's. I visited the one at 321 Miraflores. Darkened windows, and the room was quite dark as well. But enough light to see 3 baristas in revealing bikinis, all decent looking. Price was one or 2 K for a drink, 2-3 k for chica drink, which came with a 2 to 3 minute baile. Good body contact, and allowed touching of breasts and ass. After the 2 to 3 minutes, they ask if you want another dance. I asked how much for a short session, the chica said 50 k, and I said maybe later. BTW, my Spanish is very basic. I do not believe Cafe Rafu on that same street still exists. The signage for Club Rojo still exists, but it seems locked up, though I was there about 4:30, it could open later. I then went to 839 Merced, the Galeria Plaza de Armes. Down a flight of stairs, there are three darkened Cafes, each with the name Cafe Karen, with 2 to 3 baristas in each. I went in one, had a similar experience to Cafe Gazu. Then went to a forth darkened cafe, which had no name. During the dance, the chica pulled down her top, exposing cute breasts, and allowing touching. Also, she stuck her hand in my pants. Good upselling effort, I must say, as I was just planning to do reconnaisance for a future trip. I asked her for a session, and she quoted 50 k, but when I said maybe later, she asked how much I had, I said 30 k, and she led me to the bathroom, as referred to on WT's map. She started with a few minutes of oral naturale, then slipped on a condom, pulled down her bottom, and leaned over a stool she had dragged into the bathroom with us. About as down and dirty as it gets, but it was fun. I also walked through Plaza des Armes, and there must have been at least 25 SW's scattered around, usually in groups of 2-4. I asked a few the price for a session, and they were quoting 25 k for 20 minutes. Some were quite good looking, varying degrees and types of girl next door. They said the deed would take place in a building that they pointed to at the side of the Plaza. I did not partake, so don't know if they would have charged extra for the room.

    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeFan  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I'll be in Santiago next week. Looking on the World Traveler Map, I see a number of coffee houses listed. Does anyone have experience with them? I read several pages of the forum, but no specific information. Can you really session with a barista by going into one of these? Or is it not all that likely. Thanks for any information.

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