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  1. #907

    Thanks for the detailed info!

    Quote Originally Posted by HotHof  [View Original Post]
    As an African American I did not get much traction on apps like Tinder and Badoo. Weren't many great lookers on Badoo, def some nice looking women on Tinder. I swiped a great amount I feel, but I just couldn't get really any matches. I don't think I got more than one or two and one wasn't even from Latin America. I do think my race played a factor in this scenario. I def don't consider myself ugly, but I probably didn't do a great job with my profile in terms of marketing it for what women may look for out there. So maybe I didn't look as interesting, IDK. Also I didn't pay for any gold subscriptions so I couldn't hide my age, which I'm not sure is a factor out there or not, but I'm pushing 40, just saying...
    Thanks very much for the detailed info, HotHof! I genuinely appreciate it. I, being a brown / Sri Lankan person myself, doubt if I would get any traction on dating apps. I am from the USA as well and I didn't have much luck even here LOL. My race's image isn't great either pretty much world over, so I doubt our image would be great over there. I would be confused with immigrants as well I guess.

    However, it is good to know you had luck in seeking arrangement and also on SectorVIP girls. WGs don't take me as clients here so that's good. I am learning Spanish, not necessarily to find women, but to explore South America and travel and visit the cultural heritage sites.

    I will definitely post my experiences here. Thanks again, HotHof!

  2. #906

    Apps and meeting IRL

    Quote Originally Posted by Artvand1  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the detailed report, HotHof. Since you mentioned you wanted to live like a normal citizen, have you tried find women as a civilian through dating apps and meeting irl. Would love to hear your thought and input on this. Thanks!
    As an African American I did not get much traction on apps like Tinder and Badoo. Weren't many great lookers on Badoo, def some nice looking women on Tinder. I swiped a great amount I feel, but I just couldn't get really any matches. I don't think I got more than one or two and one wasn't even from Latin America. I do think my race played a factor in this scenario. I def don't consider myself ugly, but I probably didn't do a great job with my profile in terms of marketing it for what women may look for out there. So maybe I didn't look as interesting, IDK. Also I didn't pay for any gold subscriptions so I couldn't hide my age, which I'm not sure is a factor out there or not, but I'm pushing 40, just saying.

    I wouldn't doubt the next man could have success on there, but if you African American and you don't look like money, or really interesting, I think it's going to be tough trekking on Tinder. I'm from USA and they don't seem to be used to seeing a ton of people like me over there so I believe I was often confused with immigrants, which don't really have a great image over there.

    On the other hand, I made an account on seeking arrangements as well as mysugardaddy, and I was getting what I would say was a good amount of interest on there. The same basic profile that didn't work on tinder, I put on those sites and made it even more basic and it did exponentially better. Unfortunately, at the time I didn't care to become a paid member with either of those sites, as by that time I was already in a groove with the casas and my trip was coming to a close. Obviously those were sugar daddy sites so most would expect a cost effective relationship would be hard to come by. I can't say for sure what would've happened with me, I just know I got notably more interest there from some beautiful looking women.

    As far as on the street, for me I didn't necessarily feel embraced, largely because of my race, but one thing I will say is people that seem uninterested can be surprisingly nice when you talk to them. I felt like I was getting some unwelcome looks, then when I would greet them the feeling just felt so much lighter than the looks they were giving initially. Personally when it comes to meeting randoms on the street, generally speaking my approach in a scenario like this I shoot for the ones that are giving me signals that they are interested, such as eye contact. This country, at least for me, is not great for signals. Chilean people are much more to themselves, and give less signs that they are interested in random people. So when it comes to non workers you won't get many obvious signals. At least that was my experience.

    I did meet two girls that I was talking to while I was out there. One was in the central fish market, she worked one of the restaurants there and she was Venezuelan. Ironically I asked her where could I find a women that is nice like her, it was a genuine question and I didn't literally mean her actually LOL, but she took it as a compliment and asked me if I wanted her number so I took it. She wanted to spend time with me and still contacts me to this day, but look wise she wasn't competing with what I was seeing on SectorVIP, so I wasn't pressed to close the deal even when I went out with her once. I preferred to save my energy for the Sector women, and since she wasn't throwing it on me I never closed the deal.

    The other girl, I was walking up to her on the street, she saw something she liked about me and she stopped to talk to me, and we created a relationship from there. This was towards the end of my time and I also had to choose between going out of my way for her, or the SectorVIP girls. I chose the Sector girls over her, but she was thirsty to see me. I mean she was hugging on me like I was a long lost relative or something and kissing me on the cheek several times when she stopped me. I was grabbing ass too because she was way too comfy so I figured lets see how comfy she really is LOL. She was hurt to see I was leaving, as was the other girl above.

    My advice, and I didn't do a great job going to ideal places to meet people (such as patio bellavista or maybe a place like Club Ambar for example), would to just get out and about and be active if you go the randoms in public route. Go hang out in parks, maybe take a beer or some tree with you, and just be opportunistic. If you frequent certain stores create relationships with the women you like there and ask them out after feeling them out a couple times. If you don't want to be aggressive you can be indirect and straightforward at the same time and ask them something like, I'm not from here, how can I meet a beautiful women such as yourself? I think you get the pt. Chilean women receive compliments pretty well from what I've seen. If they like you they'll prolly just give you their number, and if they don't they may just suggest a way for you a better way to ice break with women in their culture.

    I felt the women in businesses, if your spanish isn't great, on avg they tend to (for me) speak English a little bit better, and they tend to be nice and helpful. It's a really welcoming vibe so its more natural to talk to them without feeling forced IMO. They often felt my feeble attempts to speak in spanish and my genuine interest in their business was charming more times then not. They will make you feel comfortable so I would say be very aggressive in these scenarios. You're going to need to know spanish well if you getting women off the street generally speaking, so if your spanish isn't great, females in business tend to be better because you'll have an easier go communicating with them. You can flat out ask these women out too if you just like the energy they have, no need to beat around the Bush. It may not work all the time, but I def think you would have a surprising amount of success, especially if they were showing you any type of love.

    I felt confident the longer I stayed I could def have a legit girlfriend out there, but the better your spanish is the easier it will be. You will just have so many more options, the majority of people out there are not fluent in other languages so if you don't know spanish you are at a serious disadvantage.

  3. #905

    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by HotHof  [View Original Post]
    Chile has a lot of geographical features I find interesting. And of course there is a mongering world. There's various other reasons like I didn't like the whole drugging culture of Colombia at the moment, but yeah, point is I wasn't solely driven by mongering. I just wanted to live like a normal citizen in another country and learn the cultural nuances.
    Thanks for the detailed report, HotHof. Since you mentioned you wanted to live like a normal citizen, have you tried find women as a civilian through dating apps and meeting irl. Would love to hear your thought and input on this. Thanks!

  4. #904

    Trip winding down -- give Chile a chance!

    I want to give a little background about myself just so you know where I'm coming from. I don't consider myself a hardcore mongerer. I did not come to Chile just for mongering, I came largely for other reasons. I wanted a unique experience that no one else I knew could say they've had. I felt like Chile was one of the safer Latin American countries, the weather was optimal, there were no covid restrictions of any sort, cost of living not the cheapest but it was fair. The cost of the flight compared to other places around the world was a value to me at the time. Originally I had a ticket booked for Peru but they spiraled into civil unrest so had to kill that. Chile has a lot of geographical features I find interesting. And of course there is a mongering world. There's various other reasons like I didn't like the whole drugging culture of Colombia at the moment, but yeah, point is I wasn't solely driven by mongering. I just wanted to live like a normal citizen in another country and learn the cultural nuances.

    It took me some time to crack the code but I can honestly say I'm having great experiences on Sectorvip. CL. I will say my last experience was a bit subpar, and tbh honest I took a chance on a woman who did not have reviews to my knowledge just because she was running a promo and Sundays are generally slower days for the entire working class in Chile (its a cultural thing). Even still I wouldn't label it a terrible experience, she wasn't a bad hearted girl just a bit unprofessional, a little bit deceptive, and was a bit scatterbrain. She was a teen and I just felt like she's learning the ropes in the game and wasn't fully committed nor did she understand the best way to run her business at that point. It's okay, she'll be better, she was receptive to all the feedback I gave and we had good conversation about it, she actually cared about how I felt about the service. She did have pros too though, it wasn't all cons.

    But with that said I really think, if you know what to do out here this is a great mongering country. I'm not claiming its the best but it's worth a run, and the large reason why is the Chilean women. I feel Chileans don't emigrate as much as Haitians, Venezuelans, Colombians, and Peruvians. I just don't think you can predictably find them in the other countries you would typically go to like that. I mean if you love Venezuelans you can pretty much rest assure through south America and some of the islands in the Caribbean you will find them with ease, so the fact it's not necessarily safe to go to Venezuela doesn't stop your access to them. I haven't really seen Chilean women in other places like that.

    The Chilean women are mostly going to be known for their lighter / fairer skin complexion; long, full, free flowing hair often times to their booty; their discretion and their passionate GFE. They profile as long backs, and their booties sit lower and the curves on their booties are a bit different from other Latinos, but once you learn their body structure you learn to appreciate it. They aren't clock watchers, many of them love to kiss deeply with no limits, and they are known for their "contactos ilimitados" or in other words, you can blow your load as many times as you want in your alotted time and their won't be complains. They are definitely not shy about going multiple rounds and will usually initiate the next rounds. They are often very submissive. Make no mistake about it, these women are really into the action too and you can tell they enjoy it. They can def have a deep sex drive and they are not huge on plastic surgery like say Colombians. The bodies you tend to get are natural.

    They have managed to create a standard that includes money shots, unlimited rounds per session with all the positions you like, deep tongue kissing, dine at the why if you like, oral with no condom depending hygiene. This is like the standard. And at least on Sector VIP its a young woman's game. You can def find sites that do the older women, but a site like sector is flooded with 18-29 year olds with 27-29 being on the rarer side. These women love to please and if you like long hair and meat on the bones from doggie its definitely a whole lot to like here. Its an absolutely gorgeous view IMO. Prices vary based on exchange rates but I ended up paying on avg 50-65.

    Tail action "colita" or "sexo anal" is here but it is usually upcharged. You can get good rates on it but for the large majority of women it's not considered normal service. Golden showers and rimming are available LOL but its an atypical service that will cost you, but I'll say you'll be surprised what you can package together on certain women for under $100, and if you willing to go to $150 you really have a lot of things at your disposal. FWIW I was quoted an additional 20 K pesos (25 at the time) for golden shower by one so there's that. Overnight services are rare and / or tend to be very costly. Its just usually not going to be the cost effective thing to do online but I def wouldn't doubt as some have mentioned if you find the right girl somewhere the rules can bend for you.

    The off-putting things I would say is the initial communication can be slow at times. Scheduling isn't like a huge problem, but it's nowhere as easy as a place like Thailand or Dominican Republic. They don't just tend to be waiting at your beckoning call. Sometimes the communication is so slow it's common to be talking to many women at once if you require urgent action. As a person from another country, I felt like they could be more helpful. It's like they assume you know Chile as well as the lingo and it's many mongering terms I never even heard of like black kiss, and Cleopatra's hug. I've had instances trying to confirm simple things and woman is like "I'm bored just hit me when your ready". Well how am I supposed to be ready if I can't even clarify basic things with you. Then I show her a promo she listed that same day and she refuses to honor it and goes on to say she can't because she "has a full agenda" and I'm thinking I thought you just said you were bored LOL smh. Many times the women are not independent, which is okay, but the optics of that can trip people out when you know someone else is likely chilling in a dark room next to you listening to everything as security (which is exactly what Jackalex mentioned, and that's understandable and fair because the women do need protection and as long as they dogs aren't "biting" people unprovoked (like in Plaza Armas for example) it's no real concern). Sometimes its managed better than others. Of course the concept of not fully seeing a woman's face until you meet them can be off-putting. I mean you can see blurred pics or partial pics and you can start getting an idea but flat out clear face pics are not always a given here. Also they do use a good amount of filters and they hide flaws with certain types of outfits so you have to be observant for that. There is a tendency I've seen to go above and beyond for their classified ad pictures, but underdeliver in terms of the outfit they show up for you with. Good news with most of this stuff though is once you get past the entry hurdles, and it's just you and them, in my experiences on avg, its like a switch flips and all that passive and guarded stuff goes out the window and they are all yours. Its unbelievable actually how it can go from a cold introduction to feeling like you've known each other for years.

    But yeah I know I've filled this thread enough on this page, just wanted to give back because I felt like I got a lot of good information that helped me find my way here. Obviously my choice of attack is the online portals, and that is not the only way to do the job here, but the bottom line is these Chileans are worth the trip. Find your niche, get into a groove, and you can enjoy it here. You'll get a safe, discreet, and structured experience if you go about it the right way, full of what feels like genuine love. Then after you leave they detach and go right back to being cold, lmao its funny. They don't forget you though, its just funny to me how easily they can flip the switch and a play the role that you want with ease and then turn it right back off when the time is up. IDK man, the natural hair and bodies, the focus on good hygiene practices, the structured experience (they do things in an outlined order but it flows so well), the submissive, nurturing and caring attitude, the customer service in delivering a GFE experience. The packaging, delivery, and women are just all unique the way they do it here. Not claiming its the best, but its just a different experience to me and I think its one worth doing if you can.

  5. #903
    These movements have been seen for a long time in the Plaza de Armas, I think there are no independents there, so I try not to contact street girls, preferably I look for company in portals where I can find a companion who has an apartment or who goes to hotels and the ones that you can look for and take to the hotel that you decide with her at the moment, because when they are frequently in a hotel, they paint that it is the same scheme as the girls who are on the street, ladies with a fierce dog that stays with their worked.

  6. #902

    Go For women that have already been vetted for safer experiences

    Quote Originally Posted by UsaInEurope  [View Original Post]
    You all are amazing.

    Cablecar -- I can totally picture myself in your shoes. Glad you didn't get held up at gunpoint!

    Hothof -- great perspective. I know very little Spanish and this was very helpful information. The plaza sounds like fun but also like it could go wrong very fast. And then you're trapped in a strange room with a strange woman and anybody else can come into the room and then you're in trouble. Best for a gringo to avoid, unfortunately.

    The coffee shops seem like the best bet but not worth traveling to Santiago for.

    I have 2 months to kill so am thinking of Arg / Brazil / Colombia.
    I've been here for a couple weeks and my start has been slow as I am relatively cheap and looking for safe options. The culture here is not always like some popular mongering countries where you can do video calls or meet the woman in person before you commit to anything. I won't claim to be as knowledgeable as some of the Santiago vets on this forum (and by the way I am very grateful for those that have posted), but it is of my opinion that most of the mongering game is done discreetly underground in Santiago. Well at least the more cost effective, more controllable options. When dealing online, sometimes you literally don't get to see the person's entire face until you're literally opening the door to their apartment. It's not always like that though, but sometimes it can be the case.

    I feel like I am starting to understand what works for me = Pre-vetted women on the local forums. USAinEurope, while I will not suggest this place is better than the other countries you listed, I highly suggest you check out SectorVIP. CL before making a decision. This website is littered with women, many of which have numerous experience reviews that are very thorough. Rompelo. CL forum has a good forum to find women with good reviews (shout to the user that suggested looking for the pre-vetted women with good experiences on there). But for numerous reasons I think Sectorvip is much better. Everything is much more organized, all the info you need to see is centralized on sectorvip. When you deal with a woman, initial interactions can seem off-putting when you compare it to other countries at times, but when you actually meet them you can receive A-1 service; very professional and very hygenic. I'll give a brief summary of my most recent experience.

    Found woman that I liked that had good reviews. Talked to her on whatsapp briefly where the responses at times weren't immediate, but were reasonable enough speed. She gave me a schedule and eventually I locked into a time. She gave me the address, upon arrival she gave me the apartment number and told me to check-in with front desk (personally I kinda like the check-in at the desk because to me it suggests they care about security -- The front desk people clearly know what the woman is doing). I don't like to walk around with physical passport for obvious reasons, I keep copy instead. Gave copy to the receptionist, he did not like that it was a copy, after he asked for physical and I told him I don't have, I believe he called the woman I came to see and then he gave me the all clear. When I got upstairs to the room and she let me in she told me that typically you need physical ID -- news to me as I have stayed in roughy 7 different places and dealt with numerous other businesses that required ID and none of them complained or even hesitated when I showed paper copy of passport. Anyway.

    Upon getting into the apartment, it was a very clean and organized space (after the session we talked and she later confirmed the space was strictly for business and was not her personal residence). She sat me down and we briefly went over the rules and she asked me what I would like and what I wouldn't like. It was almost like I was ordering at a restaurant LOL, it was all so structured. Personally one of the more structured experiences I have had of this kind in my life. Hygiene is taken serious with many of the women in Chile so I was ordered to go to the shower, wash my private area and arm pits, then spray axe body spray on both areas. If I wanted kisses I needed to use the toothpaste with my fingers to clean my teeth and use the mouthwash after. She gave me a disposable towel. Make no mistake this business was being run like a well oiled-machine! LOL. After coming out of the room, she cleaned off my the with a wipe of some sort and thoroughly inspected it. Apparently I passed the hygiene test because they will not do uncovered BJ (sin preservativo) if you're hygiene is not good. She kissed my head as a nice gesture and from there we kissed deeply on the bed for several minutes full tongue and all, she was not shy at all here. Uncovered BJ followed, not all world quality, but def was def good and included spit and saliva, and it was not rushed.

    Then to the action. Sidenote, she did set a timer for 1 HR on her phone, which is respectable and fair. I don't believe it was set from the time of my exact arrival, maybe slightly after but I have no qualms with the alloted time I was given.

    Intercourse did not last as long as I preferred as she outdueled me and I didn't pace myself properly LOL. Props to her, she won that round, I'll give her that LOL. I rushed to pull out and go for the money shot (they call it oral americana here), but I didn't make it in time and ended up spraying all on her body. She did her best to try to get her mouth there in time, and it was def no fault of hers that I missed. We had a good laugh about it then we laid in the bed together and just had nice convo afterwards for a bit. She was a nice girl. The women can seem cold on whatsapp and even in person (just from looks), but when you actually get to talk to them in person they can be really nice, nurturing and caring people in my experiences. With time still left she randomly asks me if I want more oral, in other words she attempted to resuscitate me for round 2. I want to make it clear that she did not try to rush me after I was done round one, she never checked the clock once, and I never requested for a round two, out of sheer quality customer service she went for it. Personally I'm not a fast recharger, but she seemed like she just genuinely wanted to eat more the so I said why not go for it LOL. It felt good but my the was dead, after eating for a minute or two we chuckle about how I'm not coming back to life and then we just lay together in bed and talk more. Eventually the timer on her phone goes off, but we prolly talk for a few minutes there after organically and then she's like okay that's your time.

    Damage was 45000 pesos. I gave her 5000 tip, she was not expecting a tip and she never once asked me for a tip. She was a nice girl and had great customer service. She did not offer anal (sometimes called greco) but many on the forum do. She said I can pull her hair and I lightly smacked her ass a few times without asking and she didn't even flinch. It was fun and very professional.

    Elsilencio. CL has reviews on many of their women, but its mostly for the woman where the damage is often double or more then what I paid. I didn't find many women at all in the price range I paid that had reviews on elsilencio. Not to say there's nothing wrong with paying more for those women, just stating what I saw. Personally I was willing to pay 100-120000 pesos in worse case scenario if I only trusted the vetted profiles on elsilencio, but after finding sectorvip I just felt like the mongering was so much more cost effective. I appreciated the customer service and the environment they attempt to create in the name of safe, fun times. Another thing I like about the forums of the three sites I mentioned is that often times the women will chime in on their review posts (as typical on other review places like google reviews). It just creates a more trustworthy environment. I had a friend that had got baited and switched online, and when he arrived the place also operated as casa instead of the domain of an independent worker. It wasn't an experience he liked much at all to be short. FWIW, he did not go with a pre-vetted woman.

    And if it wasn't clear, the woman I saw, the reviews were correct, she met the expectations I had based on pictures and reviews, and it was definitely not a bait and switch. You can def score predictably with relative ease on a site like sectorvip if your budget is lower and you are looking for pre-vetted women.

    Hope this helps, but yeah, if you are looking for safer, fun times, without the pressures of buying drinks or dances, I strongly suggest you hit a site that has sometype of forum that shows the reviews of the girls and go with that.

    FWIW, sites like tinder and Badoo (there are not many great lookers IMO on badoo) did not work for me I was not getting much matches. Personally I believe it's because I am African American but that's a different topic. I did get some good traction with profiles on seeking arrangements and mysugardaddy but obviously I did not want to commit money just to converse with those women. I met a couple real women on the street that I could've pursued but they just weren't up to my standards to really give me the motivation to pursue them aggressively. They definitely wanted to see me though. With some confidence and patience, I think you def can find real women out and about (and I don't mean streetwalkers, which are easy to identify IMO) if that's the angle you want to take. You can do real cheap dates like laying in the park and / or ice cream, which are both staples of Chilean culture.

  7. #901
    You all are amazing.

    Cablecar -- I can totally picture myself in your shoes. Glad you didn't get held up at gunpoint!

    Hothof -- great perspective. I know very little Spanish and this was very helpful information. The plaza sounds like fun but also like it could go wrong very fast. And then you're trapped in a strange room with a strange woman and anybody else can come into the room and then you're in trouble. Best for a gringo to avoid, unfortunately.

    The coffee shops seem like the best bet but not worth traveling to Santiago for.

    I have 2 months to kill so am thinking of Arg / Brazil / Colombia.

  8. #900
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBowl  [View Original Post]
    Went twice. One time I found a nice chica, got her number and dated her several times.

    Second time got robbed at gunpoint.

    Literally hit and miss LOL.
    Do you mind elaborating on how the second time went down for the safety of others?

    Over the past week or so I have loosely studied plaza de armas. I have sat in the square as well as walked the square to observe operations. I have spoken to women and even got a number. There is real pimpery going on in this square, either that or some of the women are being extorted for protection. Or considering the robbery attempts maybe the women are in on it.

    One day I'm Watching two women on the outskirts of the Square looking inward. One of the woman I had seen every day I was at the Square, so I knew she was working. They look to be standing by themselves and they are not giving eye contact, but if you know you know. I watch a potential buyer walk up to them, he talks to them roughly for 45 seconds or less and they strike a deal and they start walking towards one of the buildings. With no phone or vocal contact of any sort, the main Girl I knew briefly splits from the group and walks to a man roughly 40 to 50 feet from where they were standing and grabs wipes from him, then returns back to the group heading towards the building. Around the moment she reconnects with the group another man joins the group and he is managing the cash transaction. I could not tell if he was giving change or if he was just excepting the money, my guess is that it looked like he was giving change. No phone or vocal contact was made to this guy that was managing the money aspect either. It all happened so smoothly you can tell everyone is watching and they are just waiting for the first domino to fall. They have a role in the process and they are just waiting for the time when they need to execute their role.

    Now I am not saying every female in Plaza de Armas operates like this but this is what I saw and that is what turned me off. Those females knew those guys and those guys just hanging in that square managing the operations. They try to stand off to the side as if they don't have anything to do with anything until you realize they in on it too. Those women aren't the true independent SWs you typically see in other countries.

    I'm still working on cracking the code here and I'm very appreciative of all the posts here. I truly believe the mongering game is alive and thriving here, the problem is this place in my opinion is not suited for tourist mongering like many other typical destinations are. The mongering here is much more suitable for locals and Spanish fluent people. If you are not one of these two and are on a tight budget you have to work much harder to reap the cream of the crop. I feel like a groove can be found with the online options, but so far imo, the women have low patience for non Spanish fluent people and you have to navigate a lot of bait and switch tactics. It's a bit frustrating when you've been to mongering destinations that deliver on a silver platter, but just got to keep working at it. Based on what I've seen on this forum and personal experience, I def believe the industry is thriving here, it's just that if you want something where you have more control it seems it will take a lot more work and patience to attain. Especially if you are picky and on a tight budget, but as they say beggars can't be choosers I guess LOL.

  9. #899

    Plaza de armas

    Went twice. One time I found a nice chica, got her number and dated her several times.

    Second time got robbed at gunpoint.

    Literally hit and miss LOL.

  10. #898

    Questions About Santiago

    We will be taking a cruise in January, which starts in Buenos Aires and ends at Valparaiso. The cruise company will provide transportation from Valparaiso to the Santiago airport. My better half will be on a day long excursion, so I am going to try to put this time to good use. This will be the first time that I ever try mongering in another country.

    The first place that I want to go to is this establishment: https://www.lamansiondelmasaje.cl/.

    I plan on partaking in this service, Masaje Ertico Supreme Dual. The Supreme Dual Massage is performed by two beautiful masseuses, a four-hand massage that will cover your entire body, which in addition to enjoying total body relaxation, you will be able to interact in a sensual and erotic way with both masseuses, the Dual Massage thus achieves your greater Fantasy and Double pleasure. Whose end of the Erotic Massage culminates with an exciting and pleasant moment. You'll be surprised! (for more details only by phone) This service will be approximately $100, which is less than what I pay for a basic rub-and-tug where I live. Now, as unexperienced as I am with regard to Santiago, could someone please let me know what this service might entail? Also, how should I interpret "sensual and erotic way with both masseuses"? If this ends up being just a hand job or oral sex, I would be OK with that.

    After this, I would like to find an escort with whom I could spend time. I know that I will be branded as a "weirdo," but I find spanking a woman to be a tremendous turn-on. I have been looking at this website: https://cl.hushescort.com/, and I have been looking for a girl like this: CHILENITA APPRETADITA Con Una FRESITA RICA Par a Que LO GOZE +569*67688. I am looking at this type of girl for two reasons: ORAL-NATURAL and NALGADAS. According to her ad, 60 minutes is $50000 pesos, which is approximately $57 USD. However, from what I have read from this forum, getting a girl to respond to your calls / texts can be kind of hit or miss. Any suggestions about how to increase my chances of meeting a girl like this?

    Or, would I be better off trying to find a "coffee-with-legs" shop that has workers who are willing to engage in sex? I understand that I may miss out on the spanking, but I am usually under the impression that "money talks. " Typically, how much is an engagement with this type of woman? Also, what are some establishments that would fit this description?

    My last concern is my complete and utter lack of the ability to speak Spanish. If I try to contact these places or girls, will there be someone there who can speak English? Or would it be better to hire a guide that could translate for me?

    Yes, I know that I have no made any reports to this forum, but, as I mentioned, this is my first attempt at mongering in a foreign country. If my endeavors are successful, I vow to make a report that describe my experiences. And unfortunately, I need you to reply to this forum, as I don't currently have access to PMs. Also, we will be leaving for Buenos Aires on 01/02/2023.

    I know that I can RTFF, but there are not many posts from 2022 here. Thank you so much for any information that you can provide to me.

    Math1956.

  11. #897

    Plaza de Armas, brief observation

    Last week, I went to the plaza de armas to check out the chicas. I was there in the early afternoon and there were quite a few of them already, mostly gathered in small groups. But there was nothing there that I liked. I guess that the better looking ones arrive later. I can confirm Cablecar's reports on the plaza. The girls do not try to make contact and there are indeed quite a few older and fatter ones hooking. A taxi driver advised me not to trust anyone over there and that there are a lot of thieves and scammers about, even in daytime.

  12. #896

    Plaza de armas. Again

    Don't know if women are even allowed in "those" cafes. ? At least I haven't seen any in them except for the ones in skimpy bikinis.

    I found the girl Inwas looking for. After dancing with a another one at a Cafe I wanted more and went to la plaza de armas. She was writing on the phone all the time, even when I passed real close and tried to make eye contact. I almost wanted to leave and call it a day, but then I overcame my shyness, walked up to her and asked if she was "working". What's the worst that can happen? She answered yes with a beautiful smile and had me with her happy laugh, too. She wanted 20.000 (something like 22 Dollars) for herself plus the room. We went to the same place as with the one last week and now the place only charged 4.000 pesos! Seems like I was ripped of last time when I paid 25.000.

    She was really nice and young and beautiful, but everything was quite quick. Next time I plan to spend more money and time on her. She readily gave me her phone number so I don't have to search her anymore but can simply (hopefully) make a date next time. Gave her a tip of 5.000 which she was really happy about.

    Many of the black women stand together in groups. I find it easier to talk to one that's on her own, I guess it's the same with most guys? I've seen some men just sitting in the shade and were approached by girls, maybe this is also a good strategy? I'll have to try out.

  13. #895
    Quote Originally Posted by CableCar  [View Original Post]
    I like the cafes con piernas in the basement of Galeria Central. There's around 10-15 of them. "Playing the field" gives me the feeling I'm an attractive guy. Sometimes you score, sometimes you don't but still have a good time with pretty girls. Just like life should be if I was more attractive. The first time I was there one girl quickly offered to come to my hotel for 200 Dollars but there was no real chemistry between us and 200 is a lot. I declined. The second girl in a different place offered sex in the toilet which I accepted because I liked her. A quick BJ and a quick fuck, "down and dirty" but good. 50 Dollars for drinks, dancing, touching and sex in the end. Something like 30 minutes. Total.

    Un poco de Espanol is helpful but the girls also use googletranslate to help. Today one girl with a beautiful lean body after dancing and talking gave me her phone number, but hasn't offered more (yet? She said it's her first day and I believe her that she's new because she seemed a bit nervous with me. So I would feel bad because she seems so vulnerable. But I don't know if I could resist if she offered sex. ? Her body is so attractive to me. Am I a bad person for that?

    Street prostitution is happening all day at the central market and the plaza del armas, but 90 % are fat black women. So if you're into them you're very lucky! There are some trannies too, at least I think they are. They have nice bodies, but their faces look a bit weird. Today I saw a beautiful smaller girl dressed like a working girl but she was talking onthe phone all the time so I'm not sure she was looking for clients. She hada great body and face but she didn't look very friendly so I think sex wouldn't be very nice with her. Most of the girls in LOS cafes de piernas look much more friendly! But I still like looking at la plaza and hoping for attractive girls. I saw one last week but was too shy to talk to her. Now I'm trying to spot her again, but haven't so far.
    Thanks for your review on Cafe con Piernas. I do plan to check them out, and I do like the idea of a USD $50 quickie in the bathroom. LOL. USD $200 is way too much. My lack of Spanish I expect will be a problem. Am lining up a tour guide to do a walking tour around Santiago, and she is quite opened minded and will bring me to a Cafe Con Piernas. The ones with the "darkened windows" LOL. She does say they are quite popular and serve good coffee. Not that I care. LOL. But she will act as my translator. Will use her to chat up other girls and negotiate a incall price for me. This is about 1 month from now. Will post a detailed review when I have done the dirty deed.

  14. #894

    Plaza de armas

    Today I went to la plaza de armas again in the afternoon. Saw a nice girl who looked at me and approached me. Would give her an 7 or 8 out of ten. Now I know how it works! Please don't think now "of course that's how it works", it was my first time with a streetwalker. She offered me sex in a room for 50 Dollars or somewhere else (on a public toilet?? Don't know if I understood her correctly.) for 25. Chose the room of course. She took me to an entry in a building right on the edge of the plaza, had to show my ID to a "clerk", number was written down, which was a bit disconcerting, but gave me the impression everything was legal and regulated. Many women and men walk up and down the stairs, busy place but took away my anxiosness.

    Its important to ask girl about her age, when I arrived at the plaza, the police was checking some very young looking girls, and you don't want to be caught with an underage one. Mine said she was 22 and she looked that age. Went into an old building, looked like a really old administrative building from the inside. Paid 25 Dollars to a woman who seems to be the "landlady", or at least her manager, then we went upstairs to a really small room (50-60 sqfeet? Washed my hands, the girl went to the bathroom too. Gave her 25 dollars (in Chilean pesos, they don't accept card or American dollars), and went down to business for around 20 minutes net time.

    Wasn't the greatest sex of my life, of course, but she was friendly and really good looking. Now I ha e the impression that its not so difficult to find good lookong girls at the plaza after all. I'll certainly be back. I was there late afternoon, maybe even more selection in the evening? I feel much safer in daylight though. I enjoy having the means to casually fuck girls many years younger than I am but my conscience is thinking about how desperate a girl must be to sell her body several times a day for 25 dollars each. ? Well in the end she asked for a tip, gave her 10 dollars and she seemed satisfied.

  15. #893

    Cafe con piernas in Santiago

    I like the cafes con piernas in the basement of Galeria Central. There's around 10-15 of them. "Playing the field" gives me the feeling I'm an attractive guy. Sometimes you score, sometimes you don't but still have a good time with pretty girls. Just like life should be if I was more attractive. The first time I was there one girl quickly offered to come to my hotel for 200 Dollars but there was no real chemistry between us and 200 is a lot. I declined. The second girl in a different place offered sex in the toilet which I accepted because I liked her. A quick BJ and a quick fuck, "down and dirty" but good. 50 Dollars for drinks, dancing, touching and sex in the end. Something like 30 minutes. Total.

    Un poco de Espanol is helpful but the girls also use googletranslate to help. Today one girl with a beautiful lean body after dancing and talking gave me her phone number, but hasn't offered more (yet? She said it's her first day and I believe her that she's new because she seemed a bit nervous with me. So I would feel bad because she seems so vulnerable. But I don't kmow if I could resist if she offered sex. ? Her body is so attractive to me. Am I a bad person for that?

    Street prostitution is happening all day at the central market and the plaza del armas, but 90 % are fat black women. So if you're into them you're very lucky! There are some trannies too, at least I think they are. They have nice bodies, but their faces look a bit weird. Today I saw a beautiful smaller girl dressed like a working girl but she was talking onthe phone all the time so I'm not sure she was looking for clients. She hada great body and face but she didn't look very fri3 ndly so I think sex wouldn't be very nice with her. Most of the girls in LOS cafes de piernas look much more friendly! But I still like looking at la plaza and hoping for attractive girls. I saw one last week but was too shy to talk to her. Now I'm trying to spot her again, but haven't so far.

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