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  1. #773

    Trip report for October 2016

    I was in Santiago about a month ago. I spent 6 nights there. I actually like they place and have found it to be the most civilized of South America. I've been to every country in South America, except for Venezuela I was only stuck at an airport. People in Santiago will actually make a strict line and if you dare cut in line be prepared. I used the metro once and I already bought me a prepaid card and I figured I will just go and use my card at the metro entry. I seen people making a line so I got in where I thought it was fair. Then two young men talk to me in Spanish. They were talking so fast I had no idea what they said, but I knew what they were talking about. I wasn't scared of them though I I just stood there and pretended like I had no idea what they were saying. Then they talked more and more, then I didn't want to seem like an asshole and said in English that I don't speak Spanish. Then they both spoke to me in perfect English "The beginning of the cue is back there". They used some advance English on me. Then the next day near a big shopping mall there are some escalators and during the busy times you will see people form a very straight line waiting to get on the escalators. This isn't something normally seen in the world. And to mention, as of now, Chile is the only Country in Central or South America that is on the US visa waiver program. So if you meet you a hottie in Chile, you can bring her to the US very easy. I think Argentina might be added to the US Visa waiver list next year.

    On Enirque Mac Iver street there are at least 5 or 6 adult clubs. But I didn't go in them. What I did do, and found by accident were the "cafe con piernas" Cafe with legs. Note, you go in, and tell the cashier what you want, and you pay the cashier, and they will give you a receipt. You give this receipt to the lady of your choice and she will get your drink for you. OK, what they are doing in these cafes are definitely not legal, I see them lock doors or watch out and they have look outs in the mall. So I won't give a name of the cafes. I will tell you where to find them. There are so many I could not go in them all.

    I found 3 types. One is just a normal place that has good looking women wearing type short skirts. Nothing special. I went to one and it was a non-busy time. It had a really good looking woman, but she got me my espresso and that was it. I only found one place where the women wear thong bikinis and sex did not seem to be offered. It was the busiest and most guys wore suits, and most girls were 9's or 10's, but they didn't do anything sexual. But then again there were so many men that it would be hard to satisfy so many guys.

    The 3rd type is the best. The 2nd and 3rd type have blacked-out windows and are located in the little shopping centers. Almost every city block downtown has pathways or makes the city block in to a shopping center type area. I was lucky and my first place had blacked out windows and was in a shopping center. They are not like big shopping malls, these are small corridor shopping mall and business centers. Most customers are old guys. So, you go in and if you see women barely wearing clothes have a drink and see what happens. 4/5 of the blacked-out window cafes offered sex.

    The first one, I got my espresso, it was only 1,500 pesos, and the girls drink was 3,000 pesos. The magic number seems to be you need to buy them 2 drinks before they offer you sex. The first drink the woman rubs her ass all over me and I got to touch her here than there and massage her ass. Thing to note, in these places you stand up only. She asked me for a second drink, then she let me touch her anywhere. She grabbed my hands and put my hands on her body parts to let me know it was OK. She got topless, I sucked titties in front of everyone, grabbed ass and cooch, etc. She somehow got my zipper down and her hand through my pants and on my bare cock and was massaging it. At first I was like. This feels like she's giving me a hand-job. Then I had to check, and yeah, she got in to my pants and I didn't know it. Then she asked me if I wanted sex. She said in the back for 40,000 pesos. I asked her a few times for how long and she just kept saying whatever. I was afraid it was just going to be a lap dance or something, but she did say sex, so I decided to take a chance. I paid up the 40,0000 plus the money I already owed. Then we went to the back and in a VERY small room. It was about 6 x 7 feet and there was already a refrigerator in there. It had just a stool and odd things a business might need. The door actually didn't have a door know or lock. She closed the door and put a fire extinguisher to keep the door closed. She let me feel her up a bit, no kissing. Then I took off my clothes, felt her up more, than she gave me a CBJ. I was wondering and hoping there would be some intercourse. I was not let down. But she was already kind of tall and she was still wearing her high heels, so I had to fuck her on my tippy toes from behind while she stood up. Man, her ass was incredible, but I just could not cum. Then we tried she sit in the stool and fuck, but it was hard for her to keep from falling. We actually went through all of this for about 15 minutes and I could not come. Stand up sex ain't my thing I guess and I didn't like the condom. I expected her to give up. But we tried this and that I was going to let her go ahead and call it quits. But she didn't want to give up, I was surprised. She motioned to me and said massage, as in hand job. I said OK. I told her the condom is too small. So she took off the condom and jerked me off. I was having a hard time cumming still, but he as is so sweet, I just got in a position that I could massage and kiss her ass sometimes while she jerked me off. I was just wishing I could fuck her doggy style in a bed. I got close to cumming and then I worried because my clothes where also on the floor. Well, you know how it goes. I decided to cum. I got lucky I didn't spray my clothes. We must have been in there about 25 minutes or so. And I gave her a 10,000 peso tip. That probably wasn't needed, but I was going to quit, and she didn't want me to. I probably should have got her number but I didn't.

    My 2nd Cafe place. It was pretty much the same deal. After 2 drinks the girl asked me if I wanted to have sex. This was actually her first day at this cafe, but she had worked at another one before. This girl was a very short Chilean. She had the most beautiful green eyes I've seen (natural). This place didn't have sex on the spot. The price was 60,000 pesos. From what I understood a room would be provided at that cost. She got changed in to some jeans and we walked about 4 blocks, and she could not find the place, then we walked 2 more blocks and found it. It was a love motel. It seemed to be on the Enrique Mac-Iver street. Well, that wasn't free. 2 alcoholic drinks, condoms and the room was 18,000 pesos. She didn't rush at all. Her work was going to close up after we finished. It was CBJ and she kissed me as I wanted. She had fake boobs, but other than that she was really good looking and friendly.

    3rd cafe. Now I went to another cafe, but it was about 40 minutes til closing and there was only one girl. The moma was from Colombia. There was one other guy there, and this girl had an OK body, but her face looks like she had tons of makeup piled on her face. I couldn't deal with that. The moma said out loud, 30,000 for sex with her. The girl looked at the moma and said don't say that out loud. A guy came to the door and said the police are in the building, so she locked the door. And she told me the police are in the building. This place actually didn't have coffee, but the sign is Cafe. They had beers and other drinks. I had a Red Bull and left.

    4th cafe had the well dressed men, hot women, but there was no touchy feely going on, so after a drink I left. I think maybe if the place was not so crowded, maybe something could happen. But it was way too crowded in there when I entered.

    I know I went to another one of these because I counted up five, but I can't remember much about it. I spotted at least 2 or 3 more that I did not go in.

    I also found a apartment type place. Look up Hurfanos 714. Walk around there on the walking street. It is near the once again Enrique Mac Iver street. During the afternoon hours a man will hang around outside looking for me to go in. Just be about there looking for a man hanging around. If you walk near him slowly and look at him he will definitely ask you if you want a woman. I went to this place twice, and each time it had three girls, always 1 ugly one, 1 doable, and 1 quite good looking. The first was was a good looking woman indeed, she did DFK but a CBJ. I don't know why, but I could not cum. I think it was the small condom problem again. I didn't bring my own. We tried a couple times, but I gave up. I got her number which is a mistake because she still bothers me sometimes. I went the 2nd time, and I was going to see the same girl, but she wasn't there. It was dumb because the girl just messaged me and said she was there. I think she probably became busy with someone and didn't want to tell me the truth about it. So I found another decent girl. She kind of pissed me off when someone called and she said she had to go talk for awhile. This was after she was about to blow me. I was getting mad inside like I just wasted my money. But when she did return, she was the first and only woman to give me a blow job in Chile with no condom. What a relief, finally a BBBJ in Chile. She also gave DFK. For some reason when the lights were dim I was thinking this girl is kind of ugly. But after the sex we turned on the lights and I was relieved to see she is good looking.

    The way it works here is the guy brings you in to the building and upstairs, and there are some apartments there. He actually gives a secret knock on one of the doors and they open up. In the room had 3 girls, and a very small room that was divided in to two areas with 2 beds. I guess you can fuck there, but that would be odd, there were only curtains. Price 30,000 for an hour. You can pay for less, but I can't remember how much. The guy will tell you it's OK he'll take you to another room. Do you want to know how he gets in to the other apartment? He uses a butter knife to jimmy the door. Anyways, the girl might make you mad once you get in the room because she will say for extra positions, kissing, oral it will cost 10,000. The 2nd girl actually asked me how much I would pay. I paid an extra 10,000 both times. So 40,000 pesos for an hour isn't too bad, at least you get a bed. I wouldn't try to use that nasty shower though.

    Now I said I won't tell you the names of these Cafe's because for sure it is illegal to have sex in the back of a cafe. Some of them actually make espressos and drinks, and stuff like that. Go to the shopping center in 1161 Augustinas and you will see a Starbucks, but it isn't on Google maps, but can be seen on Google street view. Inside I found 2 cafes. One has sex, one of them might, but didn't offer because it was too damn crowded. If I went earlier in the day maybe it would not be busy. Most of these places close at 8 PM, some might stay open til 9 PM.

    Now walk through the shopping malls to the East and North of there. The shopping centers to next to Plaza De Armas has these cafes. As a bonus tip, one of the pharmacies very close to Plaza de Armas might sell you extras, while almost every other pharmacy won't. Walk up and down Enrique Mac Iver. You will see lots of adult clubs, and the love hotel that I used was near a group of them. Some of the previous escort sites still work, but I didn't try them. Walking around and exploring the city looking for those "cafes" was fun. The famous Cafe Con Piernas like Haiti or Cafe Caribe do not have anything sexual going on, they also don't have blacked-out windows and are off of major walkways. I had fun walking in to these places to see what would happen, and it was cheap for an espresso. Remember, it's you go to the cashier, order your drink, they give you a receipt, and you walk around and choose the girl that you want to be with, and you give her your receipt. In my first Cafe I had all of the girls asking me for my receipt and I had no idea what was going on. Expect 10-12 girls in a cafe, except one of them only had one. That place was more hidden also, you had to go in the shopping center, walk around, then you walk downstairs. That shopping center had 2 cafes, I only went in one of them.

    Also, Uber works pretty good in Santiago, but I found myself using the metro, it was kind of fun seeing who was going to be in the train with you. You can actually use Uber at the airport, you just need to exit the airport, and go to the hotel right in front of the airport. The Uber guy will find you there, but the Uber guy said on the weekdays the police will try to stop them. On the weekends there aren't cops trying to stop them from picking people up. Uber from the airport to near the Costanera Center was about $18 US. When I went to the airport Uber charged me surge pricing. Going to the airport was about $23. If you want to be really cheap you could use a combo of the metro and taxi or Uber and buses if you want to figure that out.

    Sorry, I surely have some typos and stuff, but it would take me a long time to proof read and it's past 4 AM.

  2. #772

    Travelling with wife as well!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nationalchamp99  [View Original Post]
    Hobbyist here in Atlanta, USA. Travelling with baggage. Wife. Next week and am searching for a legit looking massage parlor that I can take the wife to but leave happy from. So we've done massages all around the world but I can't take her into a place that is obviously a happy ending place / brothel. I have Sacomos and masajes de relajation in mind but am not sure about the ending. Any input greatly appreciated from fellow members. More than willing to pay it forward for visitors to Atlanta.

    Thanks in advance.
    Hello folks!

    I'll be visiting Santiago with my wife in November and she's curious about girls and about visiting a strip club (a good one). With that in mind I've contacted some of the most famous clubs (Passapoga, Fabiano, Platinum.) I could found in the web but all of them informed me that she can not enter the club because they are exclusively for men. Could any of you can suggest a club where our entrance would be allowed?

    I really don't want to have to call a massage girl since I think the club is funnier, but in last case I'll have to do it.

    Many thanks!

  3. #771

    Greetings Santiago

    Hobbyist here in Atlanta, USA. Travelling with baggage. Wife. Next week and am searching for a legit looking massage parlor that I can take the wife to but leave happy from. So we've done massages all around the world but I can't take her into a place that is obviously a happy ending place / brothel. I have Sacomos and masajes de relajation in mind but am not sure about the ending. Any input greatly appreciated from fellow members. More than willing to pay it forward for visitors to Atlanta.

    Thanks in advance.

  4. #770

    Santiago TR

    Although had only one night stay in Santiago, doing the homework before getting there paid out the dividends. My hotel was not GF so bringing any goodies or having anyone visit my hotel was out of question. Before arrival in Santiago, I had contacted several text message friendly girls from Santiago that I came across on either estokada, relaxchile and related websites. Once arrived in Santiago, just texted the girls I had on the list and was able to meet 2 out of 3 in the same night. They sent me the address for Taxi and once arrived at their apartment (both were in Providencia) they let me know their apt number. There was no issue with the front desk which both buildings had.

    The damage was from 50-70 K for GFE to lite GFE and worth it given I had no time to hunt for girls in random bars in Bella Vista.

    I contacted the lady (Barbara) mentioned in the thread below but she was absolutely rude in her communication and I am glad I didn't go after her.

    I did found out that there are plenty of girls in Santiago who come for few days from neighboring countries -the two I met were from BA and Asuncion.

    As one would expect, you have to try a lot of contacts and hope a couple pan out -that is what I had expected and that's exactly how it played out.

    Good luck hunting in Santiago.

  5. #769

    More cafes con piernas tidbits

    Thanks to recent posters for posting items with actionable intel. That's what really counts here.

    For this trip Lima was the "fun" place and Santiago was the business place. I took Sky Airline on the Lima-Santiago one-way at $89 all-in. They were almost 2 hours late, but once they got going it was a tolerable version of Spirit Airlines in the USA Unlike Spirit, they did have a free baggage allowance (1 bag), but otherwose it was A319's, cramped seating and charging (in CLP) for food / drinks.

    Most time was either doing business or at the Persa Bio-Bio on a Sunday, but I did have a loose hour or two for more cafes con piernas on Monday and Tuesday. Did a quick once-over in the Franklin / San Diego area on a Monday afternoon but not too much was happening. Club Eros had a cute girl I did two dances with. They hire Chilenas, who tend to be more reserved than other nationalities (certainly vs. The. Are. S) but are sometimes kinda cuts. I had done more thorough reviews of that area earlier.

    Going around the east side of downtown on Tuesday afternoon, there's an arcade at the corner of San Antonio and Monijitas with a couple of dark-window cafes. Cafe Fiera has the standard bit (CLP 1. 5 K-2 K for coffee, 2 K per drink for girl's drinks). A curvier, more filled out girl from Peru also had a 10 K oral upsell. I didn't have the exact change and was taken a bit by surprise so I didn't take it. But maybe slightly rauncher than the usually bikinied place.

    There's also Cafe Gazu near Merced & Huerfanos, with 1. 5 K coffee and 2 K / song "drinks", but they don't even bother with the shot glass and soda water (so you don't get the visual on how fast the girl can gulp down the drink). It works out to 1 per song, so it'd be like a club in the USA That offered $3 lap dances where you could touch the dancer and not get bothered by the bouncer 99% of the time. And the girl takes off more or it gets hotter with successive drinks, though YMMV. Such a business would do a lot of volume in the USA, you could bet.

    But even at $3 a pop it can add up, so I usually didn't stay engaged long. It's not the same as the mensaje places or getting one delivered to your room or even finding one that's TLN-worthy, I know, but it's a lot more interesting than Starbucks and I'd gotten my fill in Peru, anyway.

  6. #768

    MPs in Santiago

    I guess MP (massage parlors) are not very buzzed topic here. But I personally like MPs more for better cost performance. I'm dropping some reviews on MPs I frequent for your future reference.

    Before reviews, just a few casual reminders about MPs; you will need basic Spanish skill to make appointment via phone or close the deal when you are there. They usually don't answer your e-mails even when they have contact form on their websites. Some may use WhatsApp for another option, but phone call is pretty much the only & best option. MPs are usually located inside office buildings, and sometimes condos. Due to the building security, you often need to sign at the front desk leaving your name and ID#. Also because it's office building, they usually do not have shower.

    Price range: Standard 40 mil for massage w / HJ. Session is about 30 to 40 minutes long. You can go further by negotiating with masajistas. Ranging extra 30 to 60 mil for CFS (making total damage around 70 to 100 mil). I have a few regular spots near Manquehue, which seems becoming pretty competitive area for MPs lately. My usual source is solteros (website). You can find websites and phone numbers of following MPs from solteros.

    1. Masaje Las Condes (Manquehue).

    Near Alonso de Cordova / LOS Militares. Office building. 2 session rooms. Shower available (They have a shower booth built in a separate room.) 2 to 3 chicas, age late 20's to late 30's. 40 mil for Massage / HJ. 35 to 40 mil extra for CFS. My favorite is Sophia, who looks actually a bit older, but with amazing body and great service. Damage is usually 75 mil total for CFS with Sophia.

    2. Sensual Relax / Paraiso del Masaje (Manquehue).

    Near Alonso de Cordova / LOS Militares. Office building (Same building with 1). No shower. 2 session rooms. 2 to 3 chicas, age late 20's to 30's. 40 mil for massage / HJ, extra 40 to 60 mil total for CFS. *They have 2 different websites with different names, but it's actually the same place.

    3. Vital Spa.

    Near Cerro el Plomo / Manquehue. Office building. 2 session rooms. No shower. 2 to 3 chicas, age 20's to 30's. 40 mil for Massage / HJ, extra 40 to 50 mil for CFS. Seems new, and chicas look a bit younger than the other MPs. Their ad is now gone from Solteros, but you can easily google their website.

    4. Soole Masaje (Manquehue).

    Near Badajoz and Carlos Martel. Office building. 1 session room, no shower. Only 1 chica (probably individual). She takes whatsapp message for booking. She's about late 30's, but amazing body. 40 mil for massage / HJ. I didn't go further with her. This was fairly new MP joined the competition of Manquehue area lately, but her ad is now gone from Solteros. You can still find her from another website (planeta escort) under the name "Sole Masaje" (one "o" Her age sounds fake (totally not 27.) and her photo seems a bit distorted to make it look thinner, but her body is still great looking and photo is actually her, which you can confirm from her tattoo.

    5. Masaje VIP (Escuela Militar).

    Near Americo Vespucio / LOS Militares, Condo building. 2 bedrooms with private bathroom / shower available. 3 chicas to choose from their website. Around 20's. It was a bit while ago, so my memory is fuzzy. But I think it was 50 mil for Massage / HJ. Couldn't go further with the chica I had, but definitely young and hot.

    There are some more MPs in Las Condes area I definitely want to give a try. Also Providencia (near Tobalaba) seems another hot spot for new MPs. I'll add more reviews when I try any.

  7. #767

    1 night stay in SCL- would appreciate help with couple of solid contacts

    Gentlemen -first time venturing in South America and with all my past experiences in SEA or Europe, can use some help for just a night stay in SCL.

    Besides the last post here about Barbie (whom I have contacted but no response), can anyone recommend a private apt or independent chica to contact? I literally have less than 24 hours in SCL and would rather not try the bar / club / pick up locations.

    There is plenty of redundant posts on BP- has anyone had any luck with BP girls?

    My Spanish is bare minimum at best and would consider it to be good enough to close deal in person or over a phone with someone who doesn't speak any English at all.

    Thanks for your help in advance.

  8. #766

    Report Barbara POV Porn experience

    I will use a standardized chart to rate the most important aspects of every lady, rating from 0 to 10 as perfect (banging Bonnie Rotten or Tori Black would be a 10) and then a brief description of the encounter:

    Report N°: 1.

    City: Santiago.

    Name: Barbara.

    Age: 30 aprox.

    Published on: http://www.Barbieplacer.cl.

    Relapse Risk: Stunning attitude, at first look a bomb would definitely come back.

    Height: 1,65 mt.

    Body: Super hot Cougar body.

    Face: 6,5 Beautiful face, thick lips and hot eyes.

    Photoshop level: way, hotter in person.

    Attention: Relaxed, hot complacent.

    Kisses: Almost ate me.

    Boobies: non natural but perfect size.

    Ass: Great, Round. Lets spread cheeks wide!

    Pussy: Shaved pink.

    Oral: Super sloppy, deep and good on ball work.

    Movements: Excellent, she knew what she was doing.

    Sound Quality: Loud, didn't sound fake, as I gave her the full treatment.

    Anal: Not unblocked.

    Ambiance: Nothing to Complain, Private apartment with only her, clean facilities, hot shower and clean towels.

    Customer service: Great service, relaxed hot and agreed to everything I wanted.

    Total Score 9 of 10.

    This provider is not a cheap option in the market, while most of good escorts charge aprox $50 K CLP per hour, this one is 70 K / hour (aprox US $ 100) but for the good of this guide I had to book an appointment as I got great references of her.

    This girl is one of a kind:

    I called her on a Tuesday afternoon, she picked up and in the phone interaction was extremely nice and polite, she explained me the services and rates with no problems at all, gave me the address, so I jumped on a taxi right away.

    Right away I came into her apartment I knew this was one of those memorable experiences. I got received by a fine and cheerful girl. She kissed me in the lips, made monetary transaction, went into her living room and she offered me the shower, took a quick one and went into her room, we started kissing and playing around, she was like a kitten on furry underwear, I was hard right away, she started sucking as she looked in my eyes, I went deep and choked her holding hard as she looked at me with watery eyes, but no complaints, She puts on a condom on me and I go deep on her missionary while squeezed one boob with one hand and put my fingers deep in her throat with the other. I turned her around and started deeply stroking her doggy style while with my thumb I played with her ring. Just to make this story short I took her into reverse cowgirl after where the spectacle was incredible, she mover her hips in a way soon I asked for her to come down where she happily agreed so I stand up and she kneeling down received all my load in her mouth while looking straight in the eyes.

    We had a brief chat and laugh about some simple things in life, and after a few minutes she goes down again and with an amazing ball licking technique she turns on the machine again and we went for the second round, this time most of the time she was on her back and I licked her beautiful toes, until why sat on her chest and came on her pretty face.

    After that I took a quick shower, put on my clothes back and with a hot kiss she left me in the door with a broad smile.

    (Important to ask always: most provider offers 2 contacts per hour, so it depends on your stamina to get the best value of the service, but once again the best way to know is asking all the terms and conditions before the service, and the question in Spanish would be: "cuantos contactos incluye en la hora?) (how many contacts in the hour).

  9. #765
    Quote Originally Posted by PDawg23  [View Original Post]
    Anybody been to Platinum club recently? Been there about five years ago and honestly competed with the best strip clubs in Vegas and Miami.

    Going back in a month and wanted to see if there's any new info.

    If someone wants to tag along let me know.
    I just went to Platinum. Cover is 30 mil pesos which includes one free drink. My taxi driver also gave me a card for another free drink. I arrived early and only 4 or 5 other guys there and about 12 or 14 chicas. They ranged from 7 to 9. Only two were nines and I talked with both but didn't close a deal. The first left with another guy very soon after I talked with her and the second wouldn't leave with me unless I bought her a drink first. The chica drinks cost 40 mil pesos or $56. If a deal had been closed it's 100 mil bar fine and 150 mil for the chica. For that price I wasn't leaving with less than a nine. The one who wouldn't leave without a drink is a tall Russian with long blond hair and is 28 years old. My guess is she is just selling drinks and not leaving with anyone. I stayed until 12:30 a.m. expecting more hot chicas to show up but it never happened. Spent a little cash and beers but saved the bigger bucks tonight.

  10. #764

    Looking for a hot independent in Santiago

    Can anyone PM me a whatsapp for a hot independent chica in Santiago? I'm only here a couple days. The clubs on MacIver have ugly girls and the other clubs have crazy prices. I'll be happy to trade similar chica info for Medellin in return.

  11. #763
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  12. #762
    Anybody been to Platinum club recently? Been there about five years ago and honestly competed with the best strip clubs in Vegas and Miami.

    Going back in a month and wanted to see if there's any new info.

    If someone wants to tag along let me know.

  13. #761

    Cost

    Sorry, it's now several countries ago and can't remember exact amount. I think it was something like $350 with drink and bar fines. The good thing is with one of the girls I saw her again and avoided all the fees and she went out to dinner with me first for the same price as I paid for her from the bar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soldierb11  [View Original Post]
    You live and learn.

    You had what sounds like a great time with the hottest girl there and you probably over paid, oh well. It's a good memory.

    Approximately what was the damage at a club like this in Santiago?

  14. #760

    Give us an estimate please

    Quote Originally Posted by DocInHeat  [View Original Post]
    I am still a little embarrassed for spending US prices, but yes, I decided I didn't have much time and went for the relatively sure thing. I am now more glad I did after your comments, because they were definitely fun times!
    You live and learn.

    You had what sounds like a great time with the hottest girl there and you probably over paid, oh well. It's a good memory.

    Approximately what was the damage at a club like this in Santiago?

  15. #759
    I've never been to Passapoga or Lido. Both actually seem pretty upscale from the pics at least (very similar to those in Vitacura), so I'm afraid we will end up spending almost the same as being a foreigner. I'm willing to try though. If I ever visit, I'll definitely drop a review for us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eltio01  [View Original Post]
    I asked the locals about Lucas and the other ones you recommended here but they say they are overprized and recommended either Lido or Passapoga. Do any of you have anything to say about these?

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