Santiago

[Albert Punter]

Americana means BBBJ with CIM or COF.

Spanish wording for that would be "puedo terminar en tu boca ?" (may I come into your mouth ?) or "me gustaria de terminar en tu boca" (I would like to come into your mouth)

Hi,

Can someone explain to me what "Americana incluida" means? What is included. Also any chica friendly hotels to recommend that are not expensive and where would be the best place to base myself.

Anyone know what the lingo is for CIM? Finally, any luck with the chicks on Estocada. I'm fond of Yurani. Anyone spend time with her?

I checked out club amsterdam online. Wow, some very fine ladies there. Are the really the ones I will find there. Do any of you recognize any of them on the website?

Thanks in advance.

MD

[MountainDude]

Hi,

Can someone explain to me what "Americana incluida" means? What is included. Also any chica friendly hotels to recommend that are not expensive and where would be the best place to base myself.

Anyone know what the lingo is for CIM? Finally, any luck with the chicks on Estocada. I'm fond of Yurani. Anyone spend time with her?

I checked out club amsterdam online. Wow, some very fine ladies there. Are the really the ones I will find there. Do any of you recognize any of them on the website?

Thanks in advance.

MD

[Slooth]

After visiting Santiago last week, I have found the club amsterdam report by Riverm was accurate and helpful. I visited there three times and would like to add that I was presented with both an hour option for 60, 000 pesos and a half hour option for 40, 000 pesos.

A cab driver happened to lead me to a similar place one night around 12am which was also just as good as club amsterdam. I was intending to go to my hotel, but after the cabbie was repeatedly saying chicas to me with enthusiasm, I couldn't say no to him. We pulled up to a white victorian style house on an unassuming residential street. The location is 2981 Las Hortensias crossroad at Tobalaba. I'm not sure if it's branded with any name or what the phone number is as my Spanish is not good so I didn't bother trying to ask. The cab driver seemed even more excited than me about what we were walking into. We entered through a small gate which wasn't locked and the madam was already opening the door as we were walking up. It's a pretty large residential house but it's not renovated into a brothel like club amsterdam. There were a few male civilians hanging around as we entered. I'm not sure why they were hanging around but one was nice enough to translate in english what my cabbie was trying to tell me. I was taken into a living room area separated by a curtain divider and seated on a couch where chicas would enter one by one in slinky bikinis from another room and greet me with a kiss on the cheek while providing their name. There were about 12-15 girls who did this and afterwards they all lined up for me to make my selection. The chicas were all of good quality and I even recognized two chicas that were working at club amsterdam earlier that same day. I happened to have a session with the one that day. After selecting a cute Colombian girl in her early twenties she led me up a staircase into a large bedroom. One drawback is that there was no heat on considering it was winter time in Santiago. She was wearing a long winter jacket covering her bikini as we entered the bedroom. She asked for 80, 000 pesos for one hour but I choose a half hour for 60, 000 pesos. I reluctantly had to go under the covers of the bed with her after disrobing because it was that cold. The bed sheets did seem clean though. It was a good standard session and I didn't feel rushed. I didn't inquire about any type of extra services probably because I had two sessions earlier that day at club amsterdam. She asked for a propina so I gave a small tip. Although this place is a little more expensive, I would say it's a great resource for its hours as club amsterdam closes at 9pm. I'm not sure what other places there are in town but would be interested in knowing.

[Member #4179]

I can recommend Club Amsterdam. It is in the broad Providencia neighborhood, but it is several blocks from Avenida Providencia, so I took a taxi from the Montt subway stop. The address is Eliodoro Yañez 2342, near the cross street Suecia. The phone is 73730059, and the website is.

www.clubsterdam.cl

The current website is.

www.clubamsterdam.cl

Not.

www.clubsterdam.cl

Despite its name, this is a brothel, not a club. The website makes clear that the chicas visit homes and hotels (I was not sure about that in my prior report). Of the chicas I visited last week, I could find only one in the photos displayed, so the photos might be a little out of date. But the photos will give you a good idea of chica quality.

[Ralphy Boyy]

Quality of life in general.

Makes sense. But not being able to get any V in Santiago would be a real drag if I'm going to live there for a year, even if it does have a good standard of living.

Has anyone in Santiago ordered V or any other enhancement online without a prescription? I have no idea of the success rate of getting this stuff through the mail. (Someone in a past.

Post mentioned a site but the link does not work.)

I suppose I could also take a trip to BA and buy some there and bring a few boxes back, Would customs give me any problems?

I just don't want to be stuck with nothing. I'll even try something else if there is no V.

I suppose I should just sign the contract for Santiago and go there and see what happens.

[Albert Punter]

Quality of life in general.

Why? Is the mongering better? Or do you mean overall cultural experience?

[World Travel 69]

Thanks, I don't know how I missed the place.

I put of the Google Map.

In posts last week, I asked for any recommendations concerning a brothel. To a beginning degree, I can answer my own question. I can recommend Club Amsterdam. It is in the broad Providencia neighborhood, but it is several blocks from Avenida Providencia, so I took a taxi from the Montt subway stop. The address is Eliodoro Yañez 2342, near the cross street Suecia. The phone is 73730059, and the website is.

www.clubsterdam.cl

I found this place by reading previous posts on this thread, and I appreciate the input so I am updating things a little. The previous poster stated that the price goes down to $100 after 11 PM, but currently the hours are noon to 9 PM, Monday through Friday, only. I did not inquire about outcall.

[Member #4179]

In posts last week, I asked for any recommendations concerning a brothel. To a beginning degree, I can answer my own question. I can recommend Club Amsterdam. It is in the broad Providencia neighborhood, but it is several blocks from Avenida Providencia, so I took a taxi from the Montt subway stop. The address is Eliodoro Yañez 2342, near the cross street Suecia. The phone is 73730059, and the website is.

www.clubsterdam.cl

I found this place by reading previous posts on this thread, and I appreciate the input so I am updating things a little. The previous poster stated that the price goes down to $100 after 11 PM, but currently the hours are noon to 9 PM, Monday through Friday, only. I did not inquire about outcall.

The brothel is in a freestanding house in a very nice residential neighborhood where fine homes with nice cars share the block with some commercial properties that have transformed the homes into nice offices. The address is clearly marked. You push a button on the speaker phone located on the white metal fence. Sometimes you are simply buzzed in through the gate to your left, and sometimes the dueña asks a question, so it is good to call in advance.

The middle-aged dueña operates a rack of telephones in a room to your left as you enter the house. She is friendly and seemed pleased if not terribly eager to make sure you have a good time. My Spanish is good enough to meet basic needs, no more, but communication was not a problem even though no one I met there spoke conversational English.

The dueña rings a bell, and the chicas congregate in the main hallway of the house, which has been modified to maximize the number of bedrooms on the main floor and the upper floor around simple central corridors. This kind of renovation must have cost a considerable sum, and the place would have to be totally gutted to make it back into a regular home or legitimate business.

Four things are particularly important to me: first of all the chicas of course, then the price, and then the cleanliness of the place, and then the responsiveness of management to individual wishes. As for cleanliness, this brothel should get an award of some kind. The floors were clean. The sheets were clean. The bathrooms, including the showers, were clean. Some of the rooms had bathrooms. Those that did not have bathrooms had small sinks that came in handy. Certainly I prefer a bathroom in the room, but I saw no other man as I walked in my towel to the bathroom outside the door, and I don't mind seeing chicas walking around in their underwear. It seems that each chica is assigned her own room, at least for the day, and it seemed as if some of the chicas regularly used the same room day after day because of the personal items present.

I went there four nights in a row, between 7:30 and 8:50. Each evening 6 to 9 chicas were presented, except for the night when I arrived at 8:50 near closing time (2 chicas, but very fine chicas indeed). Each other night there were at least three chicas I had not seen before, so it is clear that all the chicas do not work full shifts every day. One chica told me she comes and goes in accordance with her schedule of classes. OK, you might say that they all claim to be 'students, ' but this one had the nursing textbooks to prove it.

All the chicas I saw there were do-able. Some were gorgeous, in my book (my book includes 8 trips to South America and perhaps 15 trips to Central America, as well as play in Canada, the USA, the Czech Republic, and Thailand. I do have to say that my absolutely favorite female body is tall and slim, and none of the ladies in this brothel were in the wet dream category that I sometimes find in Paraguay. Chilean women tend to be a little heavier than Paraguayan and Argentinian women – the Chilean women are fit, healthy, and lively but you rarely see the tall, slim, elegant women that you see in Paris, Prague, or Buenos Aires. Having said that, I have to say that all the women in this brothel were quite lovely, with a few natural blondes. The most important thing is that none of them appeared tired, beaten down, or unenthusiastic. When presenting themselves there was much smiling, eye contact, and the traditional kiss on the cheek. All seemed eager to be chosen. Of the women I experienced, all claimed to be Chilean except one Colombiana who said that her compatriot also worked there.

The place is not cheap, especially for someone whose last trip was to Paraguay. The basic fee is 60, 000 pesos ($120) , and three of the chicas have basic rates of 70, 000. The dueña explained that 'addicionales' are negotiated individually with the chicas and stated that the customer can return to make another choice if he is not satisfied with the negotiations concerning extras. My experience is that most of the chicas immediately asked for 30, 000 for BBBJ (I don't know if BBBJ to completion was involved because BB is not important to me and 30, 000 on top of 60, 000 is outrageously expensive in my book). Most of the chicas I saw were willing to provide anal, but for 50, 000 on top of the 60, 000. To pay $220 is a hard sell to someone who is used to $40 or $50 for the same service by equally pretty chicas in Paraguay. As others have said on this site, prices in Santiago are not so different from prices in the USA or Canada. Still, in my experience, I have never been able to find great Greek with young and very pretty Norteamericanas for that kind of price.

Warning: the words 'servicio completo' did not mean anal to at least three of the chicas I dealt with. You have to say 'sexo anal. '

I would not call it upselling because the dueña is clear about the extras and because the chicas performed excellent, unhurried service even when I turned down all the extras. There was no nagging, thank goodness. However, two of the chicas were quite direct in asking for a propinita after the festivities, and 5, 000 led to kisses even though I think they wanted more. The standard in Chile in restaurants and other places seems to be 10 per cent for tips, which is different from Paraguay where most people tip very little.

The chicas enjoyed the sex, and they eagerly used the little vibrators I bring along with me (all covered the vibrators with condoms before applying them to their clits, and all were careful to check (without being compulsive about it) that my condom was not slipping down. All had a good time, with nice little pink blotches on their skin and pink ears, but I have to say that none of them went ballistically multiorgasmic out their minds (something I particularly like). Honestly, the Chilean chicas seemed like Swedes in perceiving sex as just another healthy thing to do. They were wholesome. And, oh yes, they were very clean and fresh.

I did have one memorable experience. One Chilena, very typical in appearance but just a little slimmer than most, told me on our first time together she had never had anal sex. I asked her if she would try it if I returned the next night to see her. At first she said no, and then I promised I would stop whenever she wanted, and I promised that I would be very gentle to her culito. Then she said maybe. The next night, there was a very impressive line-up of nine chicas, and I think the competition helped her to say yes when I whispered in her ear. You are probably saying that I am naïve to believe her 'first-time' story, but she asked only for the extra 50, 000 that all the other chicas request. There was no Chinese-style bargaining for the virgin experience. Also, it was difficult to prepare her, and I believe she has had very little experience with anything up there. I think I used about a half a bottle of lube, and it was still tight as a drum. There is something breathtaking about that crush on the thumb. Clearly she found the penis unpleasant at first, but then she got into it as long as I did not administer long strokes (she would say 'poquito'). The vibrator on her clit helped her along. After a while of poking around, with her ass getting tentatively active and cautiously rotational, occasionally she smiled back at me as if we were two naughty kids doing something wrong. And she was a real trooper in going to the end of the hour. At the end she said it was 'no tan terrible. ' I really think that was her first time, and that was a first for me with any woman. I've never been with a vaginal virgin, but now I do believe I have started a young lady down a path that will be very pleasing to her middle-class husband of the future.

Obviously brothels are not for everyone. If I had more time, I think I could save money and have just as much fun by calling the chicas on Laestokada, But I must report I had bad luck with Laestokada, even after Sunday. To quote Dornyone:

You guessed right, most chicas take Sundays off unless by prior appointment. Oh, remember the obligatory reminder text on Sunday at noon or risk a no show. If she seems reluctant, sweeten the deal.

Using Laestokada, at 6:00 I made a definite appointment for 8:00, but at 7:40 the chica claimed she had to cancel to take care of a sick brother. When I called a different chica, a male voice rudely interrupted our conversation. That reminded me how dangerous it can be to walk into an apartment where there are pimps. A few chicas hung up on me when they had difficulty understanding my poor Spanish. On this trip, I did not have time to run around town pursuing no-shows and chicas operating on Latin time. Also, as others have said on this site, the bait-and-switch is always a risk. So Club Amsterdam served me well even though it was rather expensive.

I also tried to call Oasis Providencia, another brothel recommended on this site in 2008, but the phone numbers did not work, and there was no clearly marked address on the street. I also went to Los Leones 0233, but the chicas there were (let's say with kindness) unattractive, and the place was smelly and dirty. Finally, I tried to go to a nightclub on Avenida Providencia, Fabiano Rossi. I think it cost me $26 for my first beer. Chicas would not sit with me unless I bought them expensive drinks immediately. The bar fee was 60, 000 for take-out, and that was before the chica got anything. Everyone was rude (the waitress demanded a tip on top of the $26, and frowned when I refused). Rip-off, but to each his own. If I ever return to Santiago, I want to go to the coffee bars just to see what is going on and have a laugh, but I was too busy at Amsterdam to get downtown.

I know that I am just a beginner in Santiago, but hopefully this post (sorry for its length) will be helpful to someone who finds himself in a similar position as I was in.

[Ralphy Boyy]

Let me tell you that if I had to choose, irrespective of availbaility of V or C, I would choose Santiago.

Why? Is the mongering better? Or do you mean overall cultural experience?

[Albert Punter]

I don't know about Santiago, but I know in Mexico it is possible to buy it without prescription.
When you enter drugustore at the airport they show V and C it in first place.
Let me tell you that if I had to choose, irrespective of availbaility of V or C, I would opt for Santiago.

Thanks for the reply. But let me explain my situation a little.

I have two pending work contracts. Mexico City or Santiago. They are both for over a year.

Which one I pick is the one with V over the counter. Pathetic, maybe, but that's the truth of it. So does anyone know for sure?

[Ralphy Boyy]

I have no idea, just don't be shy, try it and let us know.

Thanks for the reply. But let me explain my situation a little.

I have two pending work contracts. Mexico City or Santiago. They are both for over a year.

Which one I pick is the one with V over the counter. Pathetic, maybe, but that's the truth of it. So does anyone know for sure?

[Albert Punter]

I have no idea, just don't be shy, try it and let us know.

Hi everyone,

I have been reading the posts for Santiago for the past few years back up to the present, and I still need more information about Vitamine V. I'm finding conflicting information about this.

Can someone with only survival Spanish walk into a farmacia and buy it without a prescription? Like in BA?

[Ralphy Boyy]

Hi everyone,

I have been reading the posts for Santiago for the past few years back up to the present, and I still need more information about Vitamine V. I'm finding conflicting information about this.

Can someone with only survival Spanish walk into a farmacia and buy it without a prescription? Like in BA?

[Dornyone]

Maybe all my problems come down to this being Sunday?

I think I found Av 11 Septiembre 447 by deduction because it is an unmarked older apartment building next to 441. This has been called Oasis, a brothel, in prior posts, but in one post Suite 817 is specified. But the street door is locked, with no bell. I call 2353345 and 2445396 but phone does not ring. Any suggestions?

I call Ave Nueva Los Leones 282 at 78743742, but the phone is disconnected. Suggestions?

I call clubsterdam and also lots of chicas advertising on Laestokado and other sites, but all ask me to leave a message instead of a person answering. Is this standard procedure here? I'd rather not get a call back because my collegial hosts arranged the hotel, but I'll do what I have to do if so advised.

You guessed right, most chicas take Sundays off unless by prior appointment. I have found this to actually be useful in the interests of getting a "fresher" chica. If you call on say Friday mid am and ask if they are available Sunday later in the pm, say 4pm, they will often leave the family to pick up a trick. An unhurried, interesting session can thus ensue. It helps to be a repeat customer. I only use reviewed girls from Laestokada. Oh, remember the obligatory reminder text on Sunday at noon or risk a no show. If she seems reluctant, sweeten the deal.

[Member #4179]

Maybe all my problems come down to this being Sunday?

I think I found Av 11 Septiembre 447 by deduction because it is an unmarked older apartment building next to 441. This has been called Oasis, a brothel, in prior posts, but in one post Suite 817 is specified. But the street door is locked, with no bell. I call 2353345 and 2445396 but phone does not ring. Any suggestions?

I call Ave Nueva Los Leones 282 at 78743742, but the phone is disconnected. Suggestions?

I call clubsterdam and also lots of chicas advertising on Laestokado and other sites, but all ask me to leave a message instead of a person answering. Is this standard procedure here? I'd rather not get a call back because my collegial hosts arranged the hotel, but I'll do what I have to do if so advised.