Santiago

[Nano]

There was a query from a poster on what SAM city out of the three above would be the best for beginners to SAM. He picked BA, based on advice from a couple of posters.

I love all three cities, my wallet got stolen in BA, my heart got stolen (briefly) in Santiago, and I made my best friends in Lima. BA fascinates me and it is today by far the greatest, deepest, dirtiest, damnedest place in SAM (out of the tiny minority of SAM places I have visited, that is). You have to go BA at some point in your life!

BUT. As a beginner to SAM. Santiago provides a much smoother introduction. None of the wild, dark undertones of the Grandest and Most Decadent city of the New World (BA). But all modern conforts, higher standards of cleanliness, more English, much more standard (albeit less interesting) Spanish. May be a little more expensive than BA, but. Again. For a beginner, it will be the easiest way to get the general drift of SAM and make him ask for more.

I should clarify that the "beginner" I am thinking of is someone with no Spanish (just like the original poster. Carl 123), who appears to be a little concerned about dipping his gnarly toes in the SAM ocean. I read that as meaning he is American or European, possibly North European.

For a beginner from say, Asia, or Africa, it is probably easier to feel at home in Lima.

For a beginner from Southern Europe (especially Italy, as Argentina is heavily Italicized), BA is the place.

Just one man's opinion.

[Albert Punter]

I am sorry you were not happy with Santiago.
What went on with taxi driver is not common based on my exprience.

As far as girls are concerned, I may agree with you that look of the girls is not the best in South America and this is not the ideal sex destination, but still you can have excellent service.
I can witness I only had outstanding service here, as I had reported in this thread.

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I really have no plans ever to go back there again. Also just walking around I was surprised how much worse the girls looked vs. the other countries in SA.
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[Bartonsky]

Finally writing up my Santiago report. No major loss though because I basically did no mongering in Santiago. In fact I really did not like the city. I experience some nice restaurants but in general I was not a big fan.

Too my surprise it was much different than every other South American country I have been to. Except for the weekend places close relatively early. Also there just did not seem like a lot of people out and about at night.

However, my number one major complaint was the Taxi drivers. I have lived in NYC and been to many large cities in the world. Based on my 6 days in Santiago they are the most dishonest taxi drivers in the world. EVERY single night the drivers tried to screw us. They literally tried every way. The most common was them claiming they could not find our hotel. We were staying at the 4 points Sheraton. Even when we would show them the business card of the hotel with the address they would claim they cannot find it. It got so bad one night I was just so frustrated and upset I told the taxi driver to take us to the police if you don’t take us to the address. He was yelling for us to get out in the middle of some dark st. He finally called what he thought was our bluff. I went over to the cop and told him what was happening. The driver drove off after giving a token complaint to the police.

I really have no plans ever to go back there again. Also just walking around I was surprised how much worse the girls looked vs. the other countries in SA.

I did try one café de parina early in the week. These places are just real divey, seedy places but worst of all almost no good looking girls. I found one that was ok. I take her up to the room and she immediately is trying to get my pants off. So I am like let’s slow down can you take your clothes off. She then says that is extra, so I was like extra to take you clothes off. How are we gonna bang with your clothes on? Her attitude just turned me off so much I got up and went back to the boss and asked for my money back which I got. I still lost the room charge but I really didn’t care.

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[Albert Punter]

I know all three cities and I believe you selected right place, at least for nightlife and girls.
As far as Spanish language is concerned, it is true Argentinian have strong accent, which doesn't sound nice in women, but at the end of the day grammar and words used are same (or very similar at least). All Latin Amercian countries have their own accents and typical sayings. Therefore, in case you want to learn Spanish my obvious suggestion would be to go to Spain.

Ok, thanks, I think I will go to Buenos Aires then.
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[Member #4351]

Carl, first of all why don´t you pay Jackson his $19.95 so that you can send and receive PMs, it will make things much easier for you on ISG.

The part of Lima where you would be staying, studying and mongering, i.e. Miraflores, is completely safe both day and night. Peruvian Spanish is very pure, almost without the accent which you will find in Chile as well as Colombia.

Chile is probably one of the worst L.A. countries as far as chicas are concerned (IMHO). Peruvians are much more GFE than Argentinians and look more Latin American as well. Here is a good place to learn Spanish, it is also full of young cuties learning English:

http://www.icpna.edu.pe/contenido.aspx?cod=6

[World Travel 69]

Here is a link to the Language Posts in Buenos Aires.

http://www.argentinaprivate.com/foru...5&postcount=73

Ok, thanks, I think I will go to Buenos Aires then.

@World Travel 69: even if the Spanish there is different, I would be interested in a good spanish teacher (especially if it's a female teacher ;-)

[Neidermeyer]

I had some time to kill a couple of weeks ago so decided to checkout some of the cafe con piernas. I can't recall all that I went to, but for the most part the chicas were not that great and the interactions (meaning body contact) was poor. But there was one place on Merced called Cafe Rio that was great. All the chicas were 6s. 9s and the contact was much better.

When you enter you will be approached by one of the chicas. She will ask what you want to drink. She'll get your drink and when she comes back she'll start grinding on your crotch, etc. You can also feel her body and breasts, etc. Although in my experience digits were not welcome.

She continue to dance for a couple of songs then she'll stop and ask you to buy her a drink. I think they are around 2k. When she comes back she'll dance for a few more songs and then ask for another drink, etc. Etc.

I stopped in one afternoon around 3ish and started talking to a really hot chica. She was probably a 9 and had amazing natural breasts. After a few rounds or drinks I asked if anything else was available (my Spanish is not good so this was partly conveyed by rubbing my finger on her palm to communicate hand job b/c I didn't think anything else would be doable).

Without even hesitating she said yes and quoted a price of 35K, but quickly lower it to 25k. I told her I didn't have that much and pulled out 17K. She seemed okay with that. She took 10K from me and went to the bar. The bar tender went upstairs and seemed to be clearing out the upstairs room. After about 5 min we went up to a small changing room that also had a bathroom. She took the remaining 7K pesos, brought me into the bathroom and began giving me a very uninspired HJ right over the toilet.

Nothing was going to happen that way so she starting grinding on me and I eventually finished. I'm sure full service would be available, but I was happy. I probably also overpaid for what I got, but I was leaving in a few hours and didn't feel like anymore negotiating anymore.

YMMV, but Cafe Rio is definitely worth a visit.

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[Buckinup]

Hi Carl,

I have a chica that I use as as a translator-guide in Buenos Aires too.

She speaks near fluent English.

Let me know if you want her e-mail info.

[Carl123]

Ok, thanks, I think I will go to Buenos Aires then.

@World Travel 69: even if the Spanish there is different, I would be interested in a good spanish teacher (especially if it's a female teacher ;-)

[Dickhead]

I've been to all three cities several times and will tell you that Lima is way more dangerous than either Santiago or Buenos Aires. Santiago is both more expensive and less interesting (in my opinion) than either of the other two. Lima has the lowest percentage of English speakers, although none of those places have many chicas who speak English (a good thing, IMO). Both Peru and Chile have very conservative cultures overall. However I would not recommend studying Spanish in Buenos Aires because they don't really speak Spanish there; they speak castellano or "Rioplatense Spanish" and the differences are significant enough that my Mexican friend was unable to understand it for quite some time.

[World Travel 69]

For a first timer I would say Argentina should be your starting place. The rest is so different, you could almost say downhill.
I know a great Spanish teacher for you in Buenos Aires.

Hi all,

I would like to travel to latin america for the first time. I want to go to a nice city to learn some spanish and meet some pretty women. As I'm traveling alone it should be a safe place, where I can go out alone at night without problems. I thought about Santiago de Chile, Lima or Buernos Aires. It should be possibel to go ahead with English (and maybe little Spanish). What would you recommend?

Thanks for your hints!

[Carl123]

Hi all,

I would like to travel to latin america for the first time. I want to go to a nice city to learn some spanish and meet some pretty women. As I'm traveling alone it should be a safe place, where I can go out alone at night without problems. I thought about Santiago de Chile, Lima or Buernos Aires. It should be possibel to go ahead with English (and maybe little Spanish). What would you recommend?

Thanks for your hints!

[Jimmycgf]

Has anyone been here/tried this place?

http://www.masajeerotico.cl/

[Dornyone]

I was in Santiago last Monday and thought I'd give myself a treat so I logged onto laestokada again. Called on Macarena (not Makarena) in Providencia. There are about 3 girls working out of this depto I think, an agency that recently had a bust up, hence the departure of my regular, Isidora.
It's summer in Santiago now so I availed myself of the offered shower. Bathroom was grubby but serviceable. Towels are (I think) dried on the balconies between use by clients, nice.
I mentioned Estokada (con K) and was quoted 20,000 pesos ($33) for an hour.
On the Estokada site, guys were quoting sexo Americano, dfk etc but I saw none of it. She was a short, pretty Chilena with a nice body, about 5'2, fake tits, 28 yrs old.
We started on the bed with her showing off her flat stomach (obviously very proud of it). She started to give me a hand job prior to putting on the rubber, roughly. After this, I got a perfunctory CBJ prior to her mounting up cowgirl. She moaned appreciatively but was unable to salvage the mood of the encounter. I got my mind into the "zone" and finished as quickly as possible. She made like she came in unison and we hugged while sharing this ersatz afterglow.
Quick cleanup and I was out the door after giving her a tip. She made no attempt to make the usual small talk I have become used to with Isidora and seemed anxious to turn her phone on again.
It was worth about what I paid for it, $37 inc tip. I won't be trying her again, Isidora is worth the train ride to Bellas Artes and charges about the same.
I notice that prices in Santiago are actually coming down! With the strong USD, this makes Chile a decent mongering destination.

[Caaznlvr]

Its been a while since I've been out and about since I don't do much business travel. This time I got to come back to Santiago. After long workweek I decided to hit up some of the websites a do a little research. I noticed that a lot of the girls advertise in all of these websites and after long debate I decided to check out la mansion (la mansion (dot) CL). I ended up chosing Angeles. Called up the spot and made an appointment. When I got there, it was a side house in a nice quiet neighborhood. Rang the bell and a lady answered. Told her I was here to see Angeles. I was let in and placed in this room. I guess they don't want you to see the other customer. Happened to see one dark skin girl and this other one. Both look super hot and I guess they were heading upstairs to attend a customer, 2 vs. 1. Good for him! I guess their names were Gucci and Naomi (who I saw a review and does anal! ) After a 10 min wait the lady administrating the girls takes me up to the room. Nice red room with a large bed. A couple minutes, Angeles comes in. Hands a towel and asks me to shower. Then I came to the bed, she was there waiting for me in a thong. Nice 24 year old, thin, with fake tits. About 5'5'', nice face. I say she was a bout a 7-8. I speak perfect Spanish, so it was not an issue communicating, we joked about a few things and then we got to business, starting with a CBJ. The girl really has skills. Then she decided to hop on cowgirl. Decided a few positions before I blew a load. Laughed and joked a while. She was really good at making me feel comfortable. She did mention that this company has 3 houses back to back on the same block, and there are about 18 total girls. Check out the site, some girls are super hot. And have Brazilians, Paraguayans, Agentinians, and Chilean. All a good experice, total damage 60, 000 CLP plus 10, 000 for taxi round trip. They even pick you up or take the girl to your hotel if you wish.

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