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[Mr Enternational]

People on another forum were like, "If there is any expectation of money on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. " To me, that was stupid.

So what is the difference between the women expecting money and the ones not expecting money? You seem to be saying there is no difference.

In the last 15 years I have met and fucked way more chicks online in Colombia that did not expect money than hookers that I have fucked there. But not 1 of those chicks was about to start pulling off clothes in front of a video camera without meeting me in person first. And in 1 month's time to have found 6 to eagerly do it and 1 to find a friend to do it with her? Either times are changing or he is walking around with a rabbit's foot in his pocket and should play the lottery.

[Bango Cheito]

JJBee, I'm not calling you a liar; I'm saying you are wrong.

You're also creating a straw man and didn't even pay attention to what I'm saying.

Not once did I say you aren't going to get any interest without fluent Spanish. I said you won't be getting the kind of interest you (or anybody reading this) think you are getting without fluent Spanish.

Meaning you won't be meeting anybody TRUSTWORTHY.

This is the only reason I'm dealing with this stupid topic, to make sure things are clear and no misinformation is spread on here.

OBVIOUSLY 99.9% of Colombian girls won't accept an indecent proposal from some stranger on Whatsapp. Nobody is arguing that. These girls have channels. Some of them have been undercover for years, or over a decade.

If you got free sex out of a couple of these girls, great! If they wind up taking advantage of you for it, great! If you wind up being all the wiser and not letting that happen (possibly because of this conversation) great too! Either way we don't really care.

My only point is that it's ridiculous to think you're scoring points with women by writing dirty stories in English and then running them through Google translate.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Except for me, right JJBee? Actually, I have had a similar experience. It is funny I have talked to a orthodontist and a medical student, was dating a lawyer.

People on another forum were like, "If there is any expectation of money on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. " To me, that was stupid. It was like saying men do not care if their wife is attractive or good in bed.

A moderator came on and agreed with that. It was kind of funny because when you say crap like that, life has a way of getting you down. In his case, what he is going to say when his 18 year old daughter is in love with a 25 year old unemployed druggie and wants to marry him?

So sure, many Colombian women are going to be interested in an American man that has the potential to provide for them. They are also aware of how much coming to the USA will increase their wages. I have met many Colombian women who know that their wages will go up 3 to 10 X if they come to America. So there are a lot of reasons besides just your money.

I am so sick of guys spouting off their alpha male bullshit. I actually read a woman talk about a gamma male, and that is what I am and proud to be. The people who think alpha males get the guys have no clue why I pick up the women I do..

They are no better.

[Combo]

Except for me, right JJBee? Actually, I have had a similar experience. It is funny I have talked to a orthodontist and a medical student, was dating a lawyer.

People on another forum were like, "If there is any expectation of money on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. " To me, that was stupid. It was like saying men do not care if their wife is attractive or good in bed.

A moderator came on and agreed with that. It was kind of funny because when you say crap like that, life has a way of getting you down. In his case, what he is going to say when his 18 year old daughter is in love with a 25 year old unemployed druggie and wants to marry him?

So sure, many Colombian women are going to be interested in an American man that has the potential to provide for them. They are also aware of how much coming to the USA will increase their wages. I have met many Colombian women who know that their wages will go up 3 to 10 X if they come to America. So there are a lot of reasons besides just your money.

I am so sick of guys spouting off their alpha male bullshit. I actually read a woman talk about a gamma male, and that is what I am and proud to be. The people who think alpha males get the guys have no clue why I pick up the women I do.

I swear the way some guys define working girls, every woman outside of a nun is a working girl.

For sure. Pro vs non-pro is not a simple dichotomy.

[Elvis 2008]

I'm going to 100% disagree with your closing statement. My first trip to Colombia, I met an assumed non-pro on the plane. No Spanish required. All it took was having a pen. In Medellin I met plenty of non-pros, including an engineer, a lawyer and a dentist. I didn't date any of them, although the engineer did give me reason to believe an advance wouldn't be shot down.

Except for me, right JJBee? Actually, I have had a similar experience. It is funny I have talked to a orthodontist and a medical student, was dating a lawyer.

People on another forum were like, "If there is any expectation of money on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. " To me, that was stupid. It was like saying men do not care if their wife is attractive or good in bed.

A moderator came on and agreed with that. It was kind of funny because when you say crap like that, life has a way of getting you down. In his case, what he is going to say when his 18 year old daughter is in love with a 25 year old unemployed druggie and wants to marry him?

So sure, many Colombian women are going to be interested in an American man that has the potential to provide for them. They are also aware of how much coming to the USA will increase their wages. I have met many Colombian women who know that their wages will go up 3 to 10 X if they come to America. So there are a lot of reasons besides just your money.

I am so sick of guys spouting off their alpha male bullshit. I actually read a woman talk about a gamma male, and that is what I am and proud to be. The people who think alpha males get the guys have no clue why I pick up the women I do.

I swear the way some guys define working girls, every woman outside of a nun is a working girl.

[Ho Lover1]

The dollar has been falling lately. Does anyone know of a good way to buy Colombian Peso in the US.

[Balboa]

At least 60-70% of women between 15-50 in Colombia today have charged for sex at least once in their lives. Literally all but 2 of my Colombian GF's have.

Actually according to my calculation it's exactly 63%, and just may include those 2 GF's you refer to. LOL.

[JjBee62]

At least 60-70% of women between 15-50 in Colombia today have charged for sex at least once in their lives. Literally all but 2 of my Colombian GF's have.

According to your way of interpreting it, at least 100% of the women you are talking to are pros, since you're not willing to admit 99% or 95% LOL.

The main reason I say this is that you're writing erotic stories in English and then running them thru Google translator.

Is it possible to meet non-pros in Colombia as a foreigner? Absolutely. But if you don't have fluent Spanish, you can 99.98% forget it!

Why do you apply probabilities to what are ultimately just your personal opinions?

I'm going to 100% disagree with your closing statement. My first trip to Colombia, I met an assumed non-pro on the plane. No Spanish required. All it took was having a pen. In Medellin I met plenty of non-pros, including an engineer, a lawyer and a dentist. I didn't date any of them, although the engineer did give me reason to believe an advance wouldn't be shot down.

Fluency in Spanish is not a requirement to meet women. The more you know, the easier it becomes, but it's not the limiting factor. Even when I was struggling to put together 4 consecutive sentences it wasn't hard to meet women. Getting into a relationship with them is harder, but as everyone has seen, it's far from impossible.

I have an easy solution for your skepticism and an opportunity for you to make some money. Let's make a wager.

PM me your WhatsApp. I'll make a 3 person WhatsApp group, you me and a non-pro. We'll pick a time when we're all available and I'll wager $500 you can't get her to agree to have sex with you. You'll have 4 hours to make your case. If she agrees I'll pay her out of the $500 and send you the rest. I'll pay her round-trip airfare and hotel out of my own pocket. If she refuses, you can send me $200 ($100 for each of your non-pro girlfriends).

It's an almost guaranteed win for you, since you're 99% calling me a liar. I'll even guarantee an attractive, fit woman of no more than 22, without any plastic surgery.

I'm willing to put my money behind my statements. Are you willing to do the same?

Or you can just admit that you don't personally know every woman in Colombia, not do you know me and it's possible that you're wrong. Take your pick.

On the subject of writing porn, I have gotten lucky with 2. One of them lives on the same floor I used to set my scene. The other one had an experience that was similar to one I wrote about. Those little coincidences help the girls relate more closely to the story.

[The Tall Man]

At least 60-70% of women between 15-50 in Colombia today have charged for sex at least once in their lives. Literally all but 2 of my Colombian GF's have.

According to your way of interpreting it, at least 100% of the women you are talking to are pros, since you're not willing to admit 99% or 95% LOL.

The main reason I say this is that you're writing erotic stories in English and then running them thru Google translator.

Is it possible to meet non-pros in Colombia as a foreigner? Absolutely. But if you don't have fluent Spanish, you can 99.98% forget it!

The truest saying of all is "The only honest woman is a prostitute". Enough said.

The Tall Man.

[Bango Cheito]

Why is math so hard? Unless I'm talking about a minimum of 100 women, or any multiple of 100, it's impossible for 99% to be all pros.

In this case, the core group is 6 women, which means the possibilities are 100%, 83.33%, 66.67%, 50%, 33.33%, 16.67% and 0%. If I can do that all in my head, surely you can figure it out on a calculator.

The correct answer is 0%.

However, I've also sent one of the stories to 4 different pros. Good reviews from all of them.

Tell me. You live in Bogota. Are all the clerk's at all the stores you visit pros? All the waitresses, nurses, doctors, secretaries, or any other women you come in contact with? I believe you've said you have a girlfriend? I'm assuming she's also a pro? Can you give me her price?

If you know women in Colombia who are not prostitutes, why is it impossible to believe that anyone else might know women in Colombia who are not prostitutes?

At least 60-70% of women between 15-50 in Colombia today have charged for sex at least once in their lives. Literally all but 2 of my Colombian GF's have.

According to your way of interpreting it, at least 100% of the women you are talking to are pros, since you're not willing to admit 99% or 95% LOL.

The main reason I say this is that you're writing erotic stories in English and then running them thru Google translator.

Is it possible to meet non-pros in Colombia as a foreigner? Absolutely. But if you don't have fluent Spanish, you can 99.98% forget it!

[JjBee62]

99% they are all pros.

Why is math so hard? Unless I'm talking about a minimum of 100 women, or any multiple of 100, it's impossible for 99% to be all pros.

In this case, the core group is 6 women, which means the possibilities are 100%, 83.33%, 66.67%, 50%, 33.33%, 16.67% and 0%. If I can do that all in my head, surely you can figure it out on a calculator.

The correct answer is 0%.

However, I've also sent one of the stories to 4 different pros. Good reviews from all of them.

Tell me. You live in Bogota. Are all the clerk's at all the stores you visit pros? All the waitresses, nurses, doctors, secretaries, or any other women you come in contact with? I believe you've said you have a girlfriend? I'm assuming she's also a pro? Can you give me her price?

If you know women in Colombia who are not prostitutes, why is it impossible to believe that anyone else might know women in Colombia who are not prostitutes?

[Mr Enternational]

99% they are all pros.

99.5%. There is hardly a chick that is not a hooker that is going to be doing shit like that for a guy she has not even met. And to have found an entire nest of them? It is funny how he thinks they are doing these things because of how he is playing the game. As if he is talking a duck into acting like a duck.

I have been doing this new thing with chicks that I have been seeing on dating sites. If I can tell they are pretty much a hooker then I will ask what they are looking for. Of course they come with the serious relationship stuff first. Then I will tell them sorry, I am only looking for a fling. The hookers will say tell me more. The serious chicks will wish me good luck.

[Bango Cheito]

My somewhat standard disclaimer: This may be of no interest to you, or anyone else.

A few months ago I stumbled upon a whole nest of non-pros. I'm getting to the point where it's hard to keep track of them. Probably the worst part of trying to keep up with them all, is the timing. For 6 hours I won't hear from anyone, then 6 of them hit me up at the same time, usually when I'm busy with something else.

The best part are the surprises. This morning the most mercenary one hit me up. I consider her more than likely a semi-pro. I can see her with her friends in Gusto making eye contact. I've somewhat pushed her to the back burner since everything is finalized with her. She wants me when I get back and she wants to bring a friend.

I had told her a few weeks back I'd like to see a video of her with another girl, which she said she would work on. This morning she said she had something for me. Turned out to be a couple of short clips of a girl-girl video, except she wasn't one of the girls. She got one of her friends and another girl to let her video them for me and both of the girls are top shelf. She'll be sending the entire video soon.

When I started having serious discussions with one girl I started writing porn for her. The first one was just chatting in WhatsApp. And she loved it. Since then I've started writing stories and sending them to most of the girls. The average response has been "Woooooow. Dame mas. " Give me more. I've got several of them waiting for the next installment.

Most of these girls are further up the food chain from the typical prepago. They go to university, live in better neighborhoods and are better educated. I'm thinking about testing them out on some of the better barrio girls, just to see the reaction.

I'm actually getting a big change in attitude from some of the girls. Ones that just wanted to chat and be friends are now changing their tune.

If you're interested in doing something like this, here are some tips.

1. You never need to mention the size of anything, especially the dicks. Talk about shapes instead. "The swollen head", 'the curve of her breast."

2. Don't focus on the things you want to see or read about. Consider your audience. What does she want?

3. Keep the vulgarity to a minimum. Make the action more subtle. "Slides his erect member between your swollen lips and into you", is better than "fucks your wet pussy with his huge cock."

4. Play the emotional content more than the physical. Write about how she feels rather than what you see.

5. Play with taboos. Public nudity or voyeurism, light bondage and discipline, breaking away from the normal stuff. Women think about these things already. Use that.

6. Be a bit unpredictable. Put the character in a situation where you know what any woman would do. Mention the normal response, then have her do something else. Like: "You awaken aroused from a dream. As you gradually become aware of your surroundings, you realize your hand is in your panties and your fingers are still caressing your clit. Looking around, you notice the window cleaner staring at you, his mouth open wide and his squeegee motionless on the glass. You immediately want to cover yourself or run to the bathroom, but the lingering effects of your dream whisper "don't stop."

7. Add some background. Mention furniture and the things you would see in the scene. You need to paint a picture she can visualize.

8. Keep it short. Break up the entire story into manageable pieces.

9. Edit it, before you translate and then edit it again. Using proper punctuation will make it easier.

That's about all there is to it. So far the women love the stories.

And if you're stuck doing nothing, having 6 women thinking about you when they masturbate is better than nothing.

99% they are all pros.

[AmoMedellin]

Also in Colombia girl are like maniac for getting in contact.

I want a wife, not 1111 prepagos (she same cost over a decade).

99% just invent a stupid lie and indirectly ask for money.

Go to Cuba, VNZm, Colombia, Brazil when you have a vaccine.

Prices will still be low for years, it'my prediction, Chinese girls value must be none.

Before the crisis in VNZ with maduro it was cheap, now it's maybe not free but girls 8-10 points with education want to emigrate now.

Buy a stash of Viagra and Ciualis and clean yourself up, hit the gym, and become a older-novio / husband. It'done during 10-20 weeks.

If you don't like her, send her home and hunt down another one, or, if possible, invite 2-3 girls.

A good salary in Copenhagen can give them a good life for 3-6 month tourist visa.

Bordelos are practically closed, photoprepagos.com, ads are down 77%.

[JjBee62]

My somewhat standard disclaimer: This may be of no interest to you, or anyone else.

A few months ago I stumbled upon a whole nest of non-pros. I'm getting to the point where it's hard to keep track of them. Probably the worst part of trying to keep up with them all, is the timing. For 6 hours I won't hear from anyone, then 6 of them hit me up at the same time, usually when I'm busy with something else.

The best part are the surprises. This morning the most mercenary one hit me up. I consider her more than likely a semi-pro. I can see her with her friends in Gusto making eye contact. I've somewhat pushed her to the back burner since everything is finalized with her. She wants me when I get back and she wants to bring a friend.

I had told her a few weeks back I'd like to see a video of her with another girl, which she said she would work on. This morning she said she had something for me. Turned out to be a couple of short clips of a girl-girl video, except she wasn't one of the girls. She got one of her friends and another girl to let her video them for me and both of the girls are top shelf. She'll be sending the entire video soon.

When I started having serious discussions with one girl I started writing porn for her. The first one was just chatting in WhatsApp. And she loved it. Since then I've started writing stories and sending them to most of the girls. The average response has been "Woooooow. Dame mas. " Give me more. I've got several of them waiting for the next installment.

Most of these girls are further up the food chain from the typical prepago. They go to university, live in better neighborhoods and are better educated. I'm thinking about testing them out on some of the better barrio girls, just to see the reaction.

I'm actually getting a big change in attitude from some of the girls. Ones that just wanted to chat and be friends are now changing their tune.

If you're interested in doing something like this, here are some tips.

1. You never need to mention the size of anything, especially the dicks. Talk about shapes instead. "The swollen head", 'the curve of her breast."

2. Don't focus on the things you want to see or read about. Consider your audience. What does she want?

3. Keep the vulgarity to a minimum. Make the action more subtle. "Slides his erect member between your swollen lips and into you", is better than "fucks your wet pussy with his huge cock."

4. Play the emotional content more than the physical. Write about how she feels rather than what you see.

5. Play with taboos. Public nudity or voyeurism, light bondage and discipline, breaking away from the normal stuff. Women think about these things already. Use that.

6. Be a bit unpredictable. Put the character in a situation where you know what any woman would do. Mention the normal response, then have her do something else. Like: "You awaken aroused from a dream. As you gradually become aware of your surroundings, you realize your hand is in your panties and your fingers are still caressing your clit. Looking around, you notice the window cleaner staring at you, his mouth open wide and his squeegee motionless on the glass. You immediately want to cover yourself or run to the bathroom, but the lingering effects of your dream whisper "don't stop."

7. Add some background. Mention furniture and the things you would see in the scene. You need to paint a picture she can visualize.

8. Keep it short. Break up the entire story into manageable pieces.

9. Edit it, before you translate and then edit it again. Using proper punctuation will make it easier.

That's about all there is to it. So far the women love the stories.

And if you're stuck doing nothing, having 6 women thinking about you when they masturbate is better than nothing.