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[Chris561]

Is it better to make reservations for flights within Colombia before I get there or to wait until I am there? Is it possible to get desirable seats 2 or 3 days before the flight or is more lead time needed? (I am talking about flights between Cartagena, Medelland, and Bogot.).

Has anyone here ever arranged and paid for a ticket (within Colombia) for a chica such that she could not cash it in or change it?

Thanks, Bob.

Book online first. Way cheaper.

C5.

[Jbj64]

Anyone have experience using google pixel phone in Colombia? How is it?

I just got back yesterday and have a pixel on the Verizon network so it maybe not apply to the FI google calling. I used the Verizon international calling plan for $10/ day and it worked well. One hotel internet sucked but the maps was very good and got to order Uber pretty easy.

[Alliwantislove]

Is it better to make reservations for flights within Colombia before I get there or to wait until I am there? Is it possible to get desirable seats 2 or 3 days before the flight or is more lead time needed? (I am talking about flights between Cartagena, Medellíand, and Bogotá.).

Has anyone here ever arranged and paid for a ticket (within Colombia) for a chica such that she could not cash it in or change it?

Thanks, Bob.

[HBoy54]

Anyone have experience using google pixel phone in Colombia? How is it?

[Rodeo9112]

Fellow deviants,

Just wondering if folks could post experiences as to what the best border towns might be which have a majority of the Venezuelans plying the trade we hold so dear. I don't imagine anything other than Cucuta or Bucaramanga would be very easy to get to. Any insights?

[YippieKayay]

Debating whether it would be worth my while to fly to Bogota or MDE to see what it's all about.

I mongered in So Paulo and mongered in Bogota, Medellin, and Cartagena. Bogota had more of a Sao Paulo feel but you won't find any nightclubs like you do in Sao Paulo. For example a place like Casaro does not exist in Colombia. Colombia is much cheaper. Especially if you hit Santa Fe in Bogoto or the brothels in Medellin centro. Cartagena is more expensive but you can still find cheap sex if you look enough.

The biggest difference is that in Brazil I never found bareback and never needed it. Brazilian working girls are great in bed compared to the average Colombian. Best ass in the world!

In Colombia you will find a mix of amateurs and surgically altered dolls. By far the easiest pussy is in Medellin. It's everywhere. It's cheap (unless you really want to throw money around) and it's endless.

[Mr Enternational]

Debating whether it would be worth my while to fly to Bogota or MDE to see what it's all about

Damn right it is worth it. For high volume and high quality at a lower price, Medellin is the best place on this side of the planet. After you go there, you may be like fuck Rio.

[Balboa]

Cartman here, you may remember me from my various posts on the Brazil boards, occasional BKK boards, and such informative films as "Smoke Yourself Thin!" and "Get Confident, Stupid!"

Anyway, from my home base here in Rio, watching Narcos on Netflix has left me musing about Colombian women. Wondered if any experienced hand could take a stab at pro / cons for me, with repect to what I know and love here in Brazil. Been living here for more than 5 years. Speak fluent Portuguese. Speak little Spanish but generally can read it, since I'm fluent in PT.

Debating whether it would be worth my while to fly to Bogota or MDE to see what it's all about -- been trying to RTTF but it's not easy to catch up, and lots of catch-phrases are thrown around without beginner-level explanations (e. g. , "The Mansion"). If someone has impressions to share, I'd appreciate it. Particularly whether you think it's worth a trip (6-8+ hours by plane, depending on city -- eg GIG-BOG-MDE) from BR to explore. I always weigh it against just going to spend a week in SP or getting out and about more in Rio. Feel free to PM me if you prefer.

I am happy to answer questions about BR, particularly Rio and SP. Thanks in advance for your patience and non-flames LOL.

-Cartman.

We'll have to chat amigo.

I spend lots of time in Rio, SP and Colombia, especially Medellin.

I'm in SP now, just back from 2 weeks in Medellin.

I speak very good portugués and spanish.

I love them both, Brazil and Colombia.

[Eric Cartman]

Cartman here, you may remember me from my various posts on the Brazil boards, occasional BKK boards, and such informative films as "Smoke Yourself Thin!" and "Get Confident, Stupid!"

Anyway, from my home base here in Rio, watching Narcos on Netflix has left me musing about Colombian women. Wondered if any experienced hand could take a stab at pro / cons for me, with repect to what I know and love here in Brazil. Been living here for more than 5 years. Speak fluent Portuguese. Speak little Spanish but generally can read it, since I'm fluent in PT.

Debating whether it would be worth my while to fly to Bogota or MDE to see what it's all about -- been trying to RTTF but it's not easy to catch up, and lots of catch-phrases are thrown around without beginner-level explanations (e. g. , "The Mansion"). If someone has impressions to share, I'd appreciate it. Particularly whether you think it's worth a trip (6-8+ hours by plane, depending on city -- eg GIG-BOG-MDE) from BR to explore. I always weigh it against just going to spend a week in SP or getting out and about more in Rio. Feel free to PM me if you prefer.

I am happy to answer questions about BR, particularly Rio and SP. Thanks in advance for your patience and non-flames LOL.

-Cartman.

[Smily59]

Dear all,

Although I am a member for several years, I took notice of the price thread today only.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...hp?1083-Prices

The forum is full of posts complaining about increasing prices and guys asking for price information in paticular threads.

The price thread being a general one could be a very useful tool for all of us, so I would like to encourage my fellow mongers to put some recent info there. IMO it could be done in a brief way (widely practiced already) mentioning:

Country.

City.

Type of establishment.

ST / LT.

Looks of the lady X /10.

Performance X /10.

Price.

Link to your post.

Sorry for cross posting, happy mongering!

[TellAll]

They demand a 3 time gigher price than a paisa client paYS, OR MORE. But use the internet sites, like paisasdivinas, masajiastaspaisas, etc; from 120 mil, from sometimes top notch girls. Emily and Maria both had 120 mil +40 for BBBJ. With e current exchange rate that is 40-53 us dollars. For sometimes divines girls if you are into boobs and ass and often already the girl have done something with her face; lips, nose. Just make them more pornografic.

If you speak Spanish, talk, hook up with girls at the daytime, "daytime fishing" and go out and have fun a when she have time, since they often are occupied with work and studies, duties and babies 24/7. You pay for for everything, but the sex itself should not be more than 300 mil for TLN, if you have given her a an event and romantic dinner afterwards.

Yes, their time horizon is now + 1 day max, but they are jerk of material, so stalling them, just make her think you talk bullshit to get pics and movies send - until you cum...and hang up on her. The girls from the internet pages, or from CC / Latineuro, are doing it just to pay the bills, so if you are staying a longer period, make a deal with some of them, or a few.

If you invite young barrio girls they are often high, since they are nervous, and they steal and quarrel. Not fun to have to argue price and get them out; it's not a crime but people will talk. And font pay for txi. They always trick you . Saying they live far away and to charge you 25-40 mil. She will have to take the Cable Metro + uber/taxi, only when close,for the last 10 mil. They can say "I come", but bring a friend, and then you should show the door directly, just pay for their travel expenses and a little show up tip, and then say goodbye, since the risk for theft, drugging you is very high. You can also ask her to take a photo of her cedula and send it via celular or email. The supply of girls on any range of the scale are 10 times higher than the supply.

Colombians are open for sex with friends, collegue, after the disco- in a totally different way that Western people do. And they just do it for fun, no money involved. Getting payed or suggesting can be highly offensive, even is she is poor and only have like 3000 pesos in her pocket. Thats the passion in Colombia and Brazil, /when you can go there in the future Venezuela/ and Dominican Republic. Jamaica is said to be a haven for just quick sex. Western Europe and North America, Japan are Sexprisons! In fact researchers says its both genes and culture. In Sexprison, but the way , the amount of sperms in a Sexprison-guy, has fallen with 59.2% since 1973, while South America and Africa and Asia where unaffected.

Girls from internet pages can take time of and you can make a deal with her. Many of the cheap casa girls and high end girls time is slow, most days maybe 1-2 clients or zero, and they stay at the place 8-14 hours or even live there.

What is SA?

Good information, thanks.

SA is seeking arrangements. A site for Sugar Babies / Sugar Daddies.
A site for Ho's that don't think there Ho's

[C Jack Sparrow]

I will add my experience with SA. I've had great success in getting what I feel is a value out of arrangements in the US. So on my last trip in July of this year I thought I would try it out in Medellin. I started talking to the girls about a month before hand trying to build up a connection, made small talk, flirted got their whatsapp. In the US I think I've had success because I try to make the girls feel like they are not a p4 p girl, however with the Medellin girls I think I should of talked price earlier. I waited until I got to medellin to talk prices and I thought they were all high. I had talked to 9's and 10's and also 7's and 8's too just because I thought I might get a better price and better sex out of the 7's and 8's but even they were asking for 300 mil for a couple hours. So from SA I had girls ask for $200 US for 2 hours, a few ask for 350 k-400 k for couple hours, many were at 300 k to come over. I guess I was just spoiled because just a few years ago I was getting tnl for 250 k. I return in a month and have been making lots of fb contacts, I haven't talked price with them yet but I'm hoping for better deals than SA.

They demand a 3 time gigher price than a paisa client paYS, OR MORE. But use the internet sites, like paisasdivinas, masajiastaspaisas, etc; from 120 mil, from sometimes top notch girls. Emily and Maria both had 120 mil +40 for BBBJ. With e current exchange rate that is 40-53 us dollars. For sometimes divines girls if you are into boobs and ass and often already the girl have done something with her face; lips, nose. Just make them more pornografic.

If you speak Spanish, talk, hook up with girls at the daytime, "daytime fishing" and go out and have fun a when she have time, since they often are occupied with work and studies, duties and babies 24/7. You pay for for everything, but the sex itself should not be more than 300 mil for TLN, if you have given her a an event and romantic dinner afterwards.

Yes, their time horizon is now + 1 day max, but they are jerk of material, so stalling them, just make her think you talk bullshit to get pics and movies send - until you cum...and hang up on her. The girls from the internet pages, or from CC / Latineuro, are doing it just to pay the bills, so if you are staying a longer period, make a deal with some of them, or a few.

If you invite young barrio girls they are often high, since they are nervous, and they steal and quarrel. Not fun to have to argue price and get them out; it's not a crime but people will talk. And font pay for txi. They always trick you . Saying they live far away and to charge you 25-40 mil. She will have to take the Cable Metro + uber/taxi, only when close,for the last 10 mil. They can say "I come", but bring a friend, and then you should show the door directly, just pay for their travel expenses and a little show up tip, and then say goodbye, since the risk for theft, drugging you is very high. You can also ask her to take a photo of her cedula and send it via celular or email. The supply of girls on any range of the scale are 10 times higher than the supply.

Colombians are open for sex with friends, collegue, after the disco- in a totally different way that Western people do. And they just do it for fun, no money involved. Getting payed or suggesting can be highly offensive, even is she is poor and only have like 3000 pesos in her pocket. Thats the passion in Colombia and Brazil, /when you can go there in the future Venezuela/ and Dominican Republic. Jamaica is said to be a haven for just quick sex. Western Europe and North America, Japan are Sexprisons! In fact researchers says its both genes and culture. In Sexprison, but the way , the amount of sperms in a Sexprison-guy, has fallen with 59.2% since 1973, while South America and Africa and Asia where unaffected.

Girls from internet pages can take time of and you can make a deal with her. Many of the cheap casa girls and high end girls time is slow, most days maybe 1-2 clients or zero, and they stay at the place 8-14 hours or even live there.

What is SA?

[Intransit]

Women fleeing poverty get the right to work as prostitutes.

https://www.economist.com/news/ameri...ombiatosurvive

ON Saturday night in Parque Poblado in Medellíand, young people gather to drink, smoke and chat. Barbara and her cousin Sophia have more serious business: they hope to make enough money from selling sex to live decently after fleeing Venezuela, where survival is a struggle.

Barbara, who is 27, prefers her former occupation as the owner of a nail and hair business in Caracas, Venezuela's capital. But polish and shampoo are as hard to find as food and medicine, and so she has come to Medellíand. In an hour a sex worker can make the equivalent of a month's minimum wage in Venezuela. Colombian pesos "are worth something", unlike Venezuela's debauched currency, the bolívar, Barbara says. "At least here one can eat breakfast and lunch. ".

Some 4,500 Venezuelan prostitutes are thought to be working in Colombia; the trade is legal in both countries. But until recently they were often rounded up by police and deported back to Venezuela by the busload. That changed in April, when Colombia's constitutional court ruled that Venezuelan sex workers are entitled to work visas. Mass deportations violate international human-rights law, it said. "One should weigh up the reasons they decided to come to Colombia. And the specific situation they would face in Venezuela were they to be returned," said the ruling.

The case has its origins in Chinácota, a tiny town an hour's drive from the border city of seeúcuta. Last year the town's mayor closed down the Taberna Barlovento, a bar that also serves as a brothel, saying it violated zoning rules. Along with beverages, the bar offers four bedrooms just big enough to fit a mattress or two. Founded in 1935, the bar is a Chinácota institution, says Nelcy Esperanza Delgado, its owner.

When the mayor shut Ms Delgado down, she fought back in court. She and the prostitutes who worked there, including four Venezuelans, had no other income, she said. Closing Taberna Barlovento violated their right to work. The court agreed, and the bar reopened.

The ruling is likely to encourage Venezuelans who ply other trades. Daniel Pagés of the Association of Venezuelans in Colombia estimates that 1. 5 m of his countrymen are in Colombia, about 40% of them without proper papers. The sex workers are joined by electricians, mechanics, empanada vendors—all of whom are seeking a way to cope with their country's shortages and queues, and an inflation rate expected to exceed 700% this year. Many of them commute daily from Venezuela. They could use the court's ruling on sex workers to argue that they, too, are entitled to work visas, says Andrés Delgado Gil, the lawyer who argued Ms Delgado's case.

Colombians along the border are accustomed to Venezuelans streaming across, but the area's sex workers do not relish the competition. Venezuelans charge the equivalent of $10-13 for a 20-minute session; the Colombian rate is around $13-17. Colombians complain that they are being forced to cut their prices. While Colombia is El Dorado compared with Venezuela, economic growth is slow and the unemployment rate is 9. 4%. Colombians haven't forgotten that in 2015 Venezuela's president, Nicolás Maduro, blamed them for the shortages and deported 1,100. Many forded rivers on their way back to Colombia.

While the law is becoming more welcoming to desperate Venezuelans, Colombians are growing increasingly nervous about the influx. Barbara thinks other countries offer bigger opportunities. She is planning to move on to Ecuador, where customers pay in American dollars.

This article appeared in the The Americas section of the print edition under the headline "From cutting hair to turning tricks. ".

[Andalus Expat]

I will add my experience with SA. I've had great success in getting what I feel is a value out of arrangements in the US. So on my last trip in July of this year I thought I would try it out in Medellin. I started talking to the girls about a month before hand trying to build up a connection, made small talk, flirted got their whatsapp. In the US I think I've had success because I try to make the girls feel like they are not a p4 p girl, however with the Medellin girls I think I should of talked price earlier. I waited until I got to medellin to talk prices and I thought they were all high. I had talked to 9's and 10's and also 7's and 8's too just because I thought I might get a better price and better sex out of the 7's and 8's but even they were asking for 300 mil for a couple hours. So from SA I had girls ask for $200 US for 2 hours, a few ask for 350 k-400 k for couple hours, many were at 300 k to come over. I guess I was just spoiled because just a few years ago I was getting tnl for 250 k. I return in a month and have been making lots of fb contacts, I haven't talked price with them yet but I'm hoping for better deals than SA.

I'm not sure if long distance canvassing xicas on whatsap is a winning strategy. I've sat with girls here in Spain (Colombianas amongst them) when they've been dealing with incoming whatsaps. Working xiicas have very short mental time horizons. Business does that to them. Any whatsap not leading to an immediate booking tends to be regarded as a waste of time. You have to see it from there side. They get stacks of whatsaps that trail on endlessly. Maybe one in four leads to a client. A lot of them are just guys using them as jerking off material. So your whatsaps are already tagged as WoT. Now you show up in-country for a live booking. They change the tag to "foreigner -more money than sense. " And you get high quotes. You want a girl. Hit her hard & fast. Service / price / where. Don't give her time to think. Odds on, she'll come back with her normal rate. Slow night you may do better.

[BoredInIN]

I will add my experience with SA. I've had great success in getting what I feel is a value out of arrangements in the US. So on my last trip in July of this year I thought I would try it out in Medellin. I started talking to the girls about a month before hand trying to build up a connection, made small talk, flirted got their whatsapp. In the US I think I've had success because I try to make the girls feel like they are not a p4 p girl, however with the Medellin girls I think I should of talked price earlier. I waited until I got to medellin to talk prices and I thought they were all high. I had talked to 9's and 10's and also 7's and 8's too just because I thought I might get a better price and better sex out of the 7's and 8's but even they were asking for 300 mil for a couple hours. So from SA I had girls ask for $200 US for 2 hours, a few ask for 350 k-400 k for couple hours, many were at 300 k to come over. I guess I was just spoiled because just a few years ago I was getting tnl for 250 k. I return in a month and have been making lots of fb contacts, I haven't talked price with them yet but I'm hoping for better deals than SA.