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  1. #7047
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?

    I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.

    That's why I went to Tantra Spa last week, in Bogota near 72nd st. They have new terms of engagement. The madame declined my request for half an hour session, insisted on one hour for 100 k with massage and the usual. I accepted the terms and was satisfied with the outcome. Of the line up offered, only two chicas I found particularly attractive (presented about 8 chicas). I would go again, still a good deal for me. Some guys will walk out when not finding something of their liking, and that's their right to so do. But i'm not too picky--even if there's only one chick, I'll go with that one chick and make it work, hehe. Seems the 100 k per hour starting point is a new development, as another other poster reported the same thing recently at this spot.
    Why bother with mongering? I can think of a few reasons.

    1. Especially as you get older, the free options tend to go downhill, or require too much time and effort. Although, in countries like Colombia, the options for free tend to be better and easier.

    2. Minimal expectations from pros. They expect to be paid, that's about it. Free options often expect something more than just sex.

    3. Less games and drama. At least usually.

  2. #7046
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?

    I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.
    Why does there have to be an either or? Today I am on my motorbike. Does that mean I should not want to ride my bicycle later or drive my car tomorrow?

    I went to a party last night where there was advertised FREE FOOD! Should I had been skeptical that someone was just trying to lure me in to get something from me? Does that mean I should not want to pay for food today? I should just around for the rest of my life looking for places that I can get free food?

    Hell, after the party with FREE food I was offered to go to a concert for FREE. Had I not gone with those chicks then it would have been $15. Then to add insult to injury the chicks wanted to ply me with FREE drinks! The nerve of them. I kept trying to leave to go pick up another chick but they kept filling my glass with Jack Daniels and ice. What do I owe them if this is quid pro quo? From now on should I go around only looking for free concerts and free drinks instead of paying for them since it was all free last night?

    You do what you want when you want. There does not have to be an "if you do it this way then you should never want to do it that way".
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  3. #7045

    Tantra

    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?

    I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.

    That's why I went to Tantra Spa last week, the one near 72nd st. They have new terms of engagement. The madame declined my request for half an hour session, insisted on one hour for 100 k with massage and the usual. I accepted the terms and was satisfied with the outcome. Of the line up offered, only two chicas I found particularly attractive (there were about 8 or so). I would go again, still good deal for me. Seems the 100 k per hour starting point is a new development, as one other poster reported the same thing recently at this spot.
    I've been multiple times in the last few weeks. And last year & early this year. I went today / Thursday to Spa and it was the same 50 k for 30 minutes as always. As of last week bar was 60 k for 30 minutes.

    For an hour 100 k makes sense. But there's certainly no requirement for that. The jeffe at bar hassled me about not doing an hour one time, but the girl didn't care.

  4. #7044

    Why Bother With Mongering?

    If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?

    I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.

    That's why I went to Tantra Spa last week, in Bogota near 72nd st. They have new terms of engagement. The madame declined my request for half an hour session, insisted on one hour for 100 k with massage and the usual. I accepted the terms and was satisfied with the outcome. Of the line up offered, only two chicas I found particularly attractive (presented about 8 chicas). I would go again, still a good deal for me. Some guys will walk out when not finding something of their liking, and that's their right to so do. But i'm not too picky--even if there's only one chick, I'll go with that one chick and make it work, hehe. Seems the 100 k per hour starting point is a new development, as another other poster reported the same thing recently at this spot.

  5. #7043
    Navigating a woman's head games, and her desire to separate me from my money is not worth the chase like it used to be. After 64 years of life, 50 countries and about a 700 body count I don't lead with money, I end with it by putting as little as I can in her greedy hand as she heads out the door. If it was good I will call her again. I then proceed happily to a drink, a pizza, my movie, my life.

  6. #7042
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    It is my personal opinion that some individuals on this forum use confusing terminology. There are lots of ways to get sex from a girl. Money is simply one of them. There is nothing wrong with dating. But it takes time, energy (and in my opinion) money. Some would have us believe that they simply walk up to a girl and present themselves and panties drop. Nah, brother it does not happen that way. You have to develop your personality, that ability to talk to girls, your persona style, and the more money you have the easier it gets. You do not have to lead with money. The the signals that you have it, like jewelry, nice cell phone, nice digs where you stay all signal to the natural instinct of girls to get with you.

    I've also been married two a girl to made more money than I have. And if anyone try to tell you that their wife paid for EVERYTHING that is well (in my opinion) in accurate. Image going up to you wife and asking her for 100 USD so you can buy her and anniversary present. LOL!

    Personality plays into all human interactions. Especially with girls. Not all prostitutes will take your money. And all prostitutes are fucking someone who is not paying them. Furthermore, all quote un quote normal girls will fuck for money when they need to. The long running discussion in the threads of may countries is what is the definition of a prostitute. Some think is a bright line definition. I happen to believe that it is not. Because any real man who is not deluding himself knows that he does not know what his girlfriend of wife is doing when she is outside of his eye sight. Believe you me, I have fucked enough girlfriends and wives on the down low to tell you that is absolute fact.

    And the only time I have ever been burned in the fuck game is when I had girlfriends I was raw dogging. Never with a prostitute and I have gone head in naked on plenty of them and flooded the zone. Prostitutes are easy. Everyone knows where the hos are at. Normal girls take work. No man should base his total sex life on one or the other. They both serve their purposes. The purpose of the forum is to share information on how to have sex with girls. I have many girls that I have sex with all over the world. Some of which I call my girlfriend. One of which lives in Medellin, Colombia. Ask me if I give her money for expenses. My answer is yes. Am I going to let someone define her as my prostitute? Nah, never happen.

    Cheep charles of the world will never live like me and my brother who travel the world and fuck girls where ever we are at. If what you read does not pass the smell test. Don't pay any attention about it and do what works best for you. Do not be a repeat offender of Man Law 101: No man is going to tell another man how to spend his hard earn money or who to fuck.
    Don't believe anything on the internet. There is a guy on you tube, John Anthony Lifestyle, that claims to have slept with 1700 women, but like Mr E, always claims he doesn't pay for any of them. They aren't prostitutes he says. All regular girls. He sells courses to simps on how to talk to girls. LOL. Anyone that's been with regular girls, knows how much work you need to put in, as a non celebrity, to sleep with that many girls. Impossible. Coincidentally, all his videos are of him hooking up with girls from mongering countries. Why is it that all of these studs that sleep with all these regular girls are always in countries that are known for sex tourism and they don't speak English, and the guys don't speak Spanish. Why aren't these Romeos that can talk any girls pants off doing it in LA or Miami. Paying for sex is so much easier, which is why we all do it.

  7. #7041

    It is a not a bright line definition as some would have us believe.

    It is my personal opinion that some individuals on this forum use confusing terminology. There are lots of ways to get sex from a girl. Money is simply one of them. There is nothing wrong with dating. But it takes time, energy (and in my opinion) money. Some would have us believe that they simply walk up to a girl and present themselves and panties drop. Nah, brother it does not happen that way. You have to develop your personality, that ability to talk to girls, your persona style, and the more money you have the easier it gets. You do not have to lead with money. The the signals that you have it, like jewelry, nice cell phone, nice digs where you stay all signal to the natural instinct of girls to get with you.

    I've also been married two a girl to made more money than I have. And if anyone try to tell you that their wife paid for EVERYTHING that is well (in my opinion) in accurate. Image going up to you wife and asking her for 100 USD so you can buy her and anniversary present. LOL!

    Personality plays into all human interactions. Especially with girls. Not all prostitutes will take your money. And all prostitutes are fucking someone who is not paying them. Furthermore, all quote un quote normal girls will fuck for money when they need to. The long running discussion in the threads of may countries is what is the definition of a prostitute. Some think is a bright line definition. I happen to believe that it is not. Because any real man who is not deluding himself knows that he does not know what his girlfriend of wife is doing when she is outside of his eye sight. Believe you me, I have fucked enough girlfriends and wives on the down low to tell you that is absolute fact.

    And the only time I have ever been burned in the fuck game is when I had girlfriends I was raw dogging. Never with a prostitute and I have gone head in naked on plenty of them and flooded the zone. Prostitutes are easy. Everyone knows where the hos are at. Normal girls take work. No man should base his total sex life on one or the other. They both serve their purposes. The purpose of the forum is to share information on how to have sex with girls. I have many girls that I have sex with all over the world. Some of which I call my girlfriend. One of which lives in Medellin, Colombia. Ask me if I give her money for expenses. My answer is yes. Am I going to let someone define her as my prostitute? Nah, never happen.

    Cheep charles of the world will never live like me and my brother who travel the world and fuck girls where ever we are at. If what you read does not pass the smell test. Don't pay any attention about it and do what works best for you. Do not be a repeat offender of Man Law 101: No man is going to tell another man how to spend his hard earn money or who to fuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    Why do these women take you up as a boyfriend when you claim to not give them anything in return but your mere presence? What do they value in you just being yourself? Who pays for dinner and outings? Probably we are not all as charismatic as you or good looking. Some guys need to pay cold hard cash and speak intelligibly.

  8. #7040
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    Why do these women take you up as a boyfriend when you claim to not give them anything in return but your mere presence? What do they value in you just being yourself? Who pays for dinner and outings? Probably we are not all as charismatic as you or good looking. Some guys need to pay cold hard cash and speak intelligibly.
    Why do you assume there has to be a quid pro quo? A lot of guys on this site act like they have never had a girlfriend that they did not have to buy. If that is the case then it is indeed a sad case. A person does not have to do anything special to have a normal girlfriend (from my lifelong experience anyway.) Hell, even when I was married my wife made more money than me and already had the house that we lived in. Sorry I just do not see it as anything special to get chicks. Elementary, high school, university, military. In none of my stages of life has women been a problem. The same goes for all my friends and associates. How is this some mystery or out of reach task for you guys?

    If you think getting a girlfriend is something then I could really tell you some stories about just hooking up with random strangers. Like the time me and my boy were in New Orleans and some chicks were getting in their car on Bourbon Street and we got in their back seat saying we are going too. That turned out to be a wild night. Or my first time in Los Angeles many moons ago when me and my shipmate met some chicks outside of Del Amo mall and we went out with them that night and ended up staying at their apartment in Watts.


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  9. #7039

    What's in it for them?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I beg to differ. Even when I did not speak Spanish, all I ever did was be myself. I have never offered any normal chick anything besides knowing me. If you are looking for a girlfriend that is a hooker then of course you would need to offer them things like money. But if you stop hanging around hookers then you would not think like a trick. Believing you have to have something to offer is trick thinking.
    Why do these women take you up as a boyfriend when you claim to not give them anything in return but your mere presence? What do they value in you just being yourself? Who pays for dinner and outings? Probably we are not all as charismatic as you or good looking. Some guys need to pay cold hard cash and speak intelligibly.

  10. #7038
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    The key to getting a girlfriend in Colombia is having something to offer long term that she will go gaga over, that and speak Spanish.
    I beg to differ. Even when I did not speak Spanish, all I ever did was be myself. I have never offered any normal chick anything besides knowing me. If you are looking for a girlfriend that is a hooker then of course you would need to offer them things like money. But if you stop hanging around hookers then you would not think like a trick. Believing you have to have something to offer is trick thinking.

  11. #7037
    Quote Originally Posted by PigSavinBoy  [View Original Post]
    No cultural differences in picking up Latinas vs western women? My Spanish isn't there yet anyway but wondering.
    People are people and are more the same than different. Culture has nothing to do with talking to people. You have to start with the Spanish you have and learn it one word at a time the same as you did English. My first time in Colombia I could only say hola. But time and practice works wonders. Most of my practice came and still comes from meeting chicks online and writing with them for the last 18 years.

  12. #7036

    Girlfriends

    Quote Originally Posted by PigSavinBoy  [View Original Post]
    No cultural differences in picking up Latinas vs western women? My Spanish isn't there yet anyway but wondering.
    The key to getting a girlfriend in Colombia is having something to offer long term that she will go gaga over, that and speak Spanish. It's not Saudi Arabia, so cultural difference can be smoothed over.

  13. #7035

    Thats about right

    Quote Originally Posted by Nypher  [View Original Post]
    Went to exchange yesterday, no cabrios in Cartegena wanted to budge over 3700.
    The Cambios will never give you the real exchange rate, they will always carve out 3 or 4 points depending on the cambio. Some ATM's will get you a better rate but add in the fees, anyway you look at it you always get dinged.

  14. #7034
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Talk with them the same you would any other woman on the planet. A grown man needs tips on how to get a girlfriend? Two people meet, they talk, they like each other.
    No cultural differences in picking up Latinas vs western women? My Spanish isn't there yet anyway but wondering.

  15. #7033
    Quote Originally Posted by PigSavinBoy  [View Original Post]
    General tips on getting Colombian GFs? Except being Tall hah.
    Talk with them the same you would any other woman on the planet. A grown man needs tips on how to get a girlfriend? Two people meet, they talk, they like each other.

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