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[TjBrazil]

Brazil or Thailand?

This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.

Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?

We all know the world has undergone radical changes since the advent of the internet and covid as has the world of paid (there is no unpaid) pussy undergone radical changes in the same period.

Twenty years ago when I first landed in Colombia it was a no brainer to move here in retirement.

Spacious Penthouse apartment in Provenza for usd 20 thousand. Clean air, clean water, clean young and abundant chicas everywhere on the street, little traffic etc.

Back then there were more chicas per square meter per second than you or anyone could have ever imagined.

It makes today's Colombia look like a wasteland.

Things change. That's just how it is.

Those days are just a legend now. You guys coming to Colombia today are just chasing a legend.

Today if coming for the first time I would decide not to live here (I have lived here for the last twenty years.).

Yeah it has been a good ride but it is over and time to move on.

People aren't afraid to come to Colombia anymore. That's why it was so great 20 years ago. My first time in Medellin was great. Second time was okay and third time, two years ago, sucked. If Colombians are allowed to come to America without major issues, then it's definitely over. These girls will see their worth after one day walking around Vegas Miami or LOS Angeles.

Brazil will always be a top destination. You can always count on their government being incompetent and screwing up everything. Copa will always be full of energy in the daytime, nice waves to boogie board or surf, cheap fruit drinks. Medellin is so boring in comparison. I will probably start going out there one month at a time in late 2024.

[Mr Enternational]

It's amazing how some Westerners will go to developing countries, try to mooch off the locals, getting free rides and stuff, and brag about it as if some great accomplishment. Parasitism comes in many forms.

It is really sad for someone to go around in life not being able to experience genuine generosity, kindness, and affection from others. The world is not all about money and not everyone needs or wants your money.

Time for more bragging. When I was in Egypt during Ramadan at the time to break fast random people invited me and my friends inside of their homes to eat with them. We do not speak Arabic and they did not speak English. We were just walking down a random street and a bell started ringing around 6 pm and people came out dragging us inside. The other day I took my pants for a minor repair here in Thailand and the lady said it would be FREE!

Yes I have been talking about random acts of kindness that people have done for me. I have never felt a need to talk about random acts of kindness that I do for other people. So maybe that is seen as mooching. Nevermind the border patrol agents I saw at the McDonald's at the Tijuana border. While other mfs are always angry and showing disdain towards them, gentlemen thanks for everything you do. Your food is on me.

Recently saw a guy with a weird haircut in line to pay at a barbecue restaurant. Hey man what branch? Army. Thanks for serving. Your money is no good here. Put his on my card. Seen five young airport workers buying ice cream at the Dairy Queen in the Hat Yai airport 2 days ago. Hey thanks for your hard work. That is on me!

What about the guy in Manila I saw living up against a building. He had carved out a little nook for himself. He had flowers in pots and everything. What caught my attention was that he was sweeping around his place trying to keep it clean. Here dude here is $20 to buy something for yourself. Good goes around. It is not a one-way street. Why do some Westerners feel they need to buy everybody or that life must be quid pro quo? Everybody is not a hooker that you must give money to in exchange for sex and that does not give 2 shits about you other than your money. Get out and live and get to know people and you will soon realize this.

[Frogg]

It's amazing how some Westerners will go to developing countries, try to mooch off the locals, getting free rides and stuff, and brag about it as if some great accomplishment. Parasitism comes in many forms. In contrast, the Venezuelans arrive at host coutries with nothing but clothes on their back, work hard selling empanadas in the street, plus whoring, etc.

I talked to a Venezuelan working gal the other day, she claims she want to go the United States. She has friends who are currently crossing the Darien jungle gap, hoping to make it to Mexico then seek asylum in the US if they can make it to Ciudad Juarez. It seems this is the new trend among Venezuelans, to aim for the big time, the fabled US-of-A. News reports indicate that in the last year there has been a massive surge in Venezuelans (as well as Cubans) entering Mexico (as well as the US to lesser extent). Those who are able get to the US tend to go to Florida. Many Venezuelans not able to stay in the US are are settling in Mexico City. Perhaps we will not have to go all the way to Colombia to romance these Venezuelan cuties, Mexico City is shorter hop from the States.

[JackTaggart]

Are there two Tantra's in medellin? I only know of one on ave 80.

I was responding assuming he was talking about Tantra Spa in Bogota since that is on Calle 72. Tantra bar is right next door to it.

[StudPlayer]

Brazil or Thailand?

This post was not written using AI or any chatbot.

Who here has recent experience with these two countries to make a suggestion as to which is better for long term residency starting in 2023?

We all know the world has undergone radical changes since the advent of the internet and covid as has the world of paid (there is no unpaid) pussy undergone radical changes in the same period.

Twenty years ago when I first landed in Colombia it was a no brainer to move here in retirement.

Spacious Penthouse apartment in Provenza for usd 20 thousand. Clean air, clean water, clean young and abundant chicas everywhere on the street, little traffic etc.

Back then there were more chicas per square meter per second than you or anyone could have ever imagined.

It makes today's Colombia look like a wasteland.

Things change. That's just how it is.

Those days are just a legend now. You guys coming to Colombia today are just chasing a legend.

Today if coming for the first time I would decide not to live here (I have lived here for the last twenty years.).

Yeah it has been a good ride but it is over and time to move on.

Today there are more hombres (that means men for you all here who don't speak Spanish), gringos and locals, per square meter per second than is cool. Totally uncool here now. You walk down the crowded streets here now you are rubbing shoulders with men and only men.

You can do that in the states I hear.

You go out on the streets now in Colombia and you are surrounded by men. Yeah there are some old hag women here and there but you know, maybe you don't know, that's it.

That is not how it used to be. This place is a shadow of what it once was and won't ever be again especially with the new visa rules for Colombianas who can now travel freely to europe and usa and anywhere really. And they are leaving getting out of this third world country moving into harems in the arab world, into the Fkks of Europe, anywhere but Colombia now.

The girls have always wanted out and now they can go and they are going. And they have gone.

For this reason there is high demand and scarce supply of good looking chicas now in Colombia.

And the danger now of scopolamine is omnipresent. Some chica out of my past contacted me out of the blue I had to say no thanks. First she was old and used up and secondly why the F now does she want to come over to my house. No thanks.

For safety reasons, I will only go to casas now. For those of you who don't know, casas are the massage parlors like New Life and all the rest where now you no longer have fresh 18 year olds but only washed older women.

They still fuck but they are not the same as they used to be.

Same thing that happened to Costa Rica happened here starting about 10 or more years ago.

Aussie Greg said it about a decade ago when he wrote something to the effect that Colombia had become just another Costa Rica or to that effect.

So my question to those who might have recent knowledge: which is better taking into consideration distances, fun, governance, danger, freedoms, chicas, infrastructure, visa regulations, local health care, local health insurance, quality of life, etc, which is better for a us citizen, Thailand or Brazil and where specifically in each?

In all these categories above Colombia has gone to hell to the point I would not recommend anyone move here.

I have narrowed down my next move to either Brazil or Thailand and I will be renting an apartment long term where I decide to settle next. Any specific ideas? Place must be fairly new and have hot water, a real nice pool and good modern air conditioning. No third world shit.

Brazil or Thailand? I am leaning towards Brazil.

Which is cooler in temperature, Rio or S. P. ? Or your suggestion?

Tell me, tell us, your experiences.

And to make a positive contribution to this forum for anyone who just has to move to Medellin and buy an apartment my advice is to buy in el centro on the uphill side of Avenida Oriental where there are some nice places or over by Villanueva.

Choose your favorite. It is still better than sex prison.

[TjBrazil]

Why bother with mongering? I can think of a few reasons.

1. Especially as you get older, the free options tend to go downhill, or require too much time and effort. Although, in countries like Colombia, the options for free tend to be better and easier.

2. Minimal expectations from pros. They expect to be paid, that's about it. Free options often expect something more than just sex.

3. Less games and drama. At least usually.

Why did Beiber pay for sex. Why did tiger woods pay for sex. It's just easier even for them.

[LionBacker]

I've been multiple times in the last few weeks. And last year & early this year. I went today / Thursday to Spa and it was the same 50 k for 30 minutes as always. As of last week bar was 60 k for 30 minutes.

For an hour 100 k makes sense. But there's certainly no requirement for that. The jeffe at bar hassled me about not doing an hour one time, but the girl didn't care.

Are there two Tantra's in medellin? I only know of one on ave 80.

[Nounce]

... but like Mr E, always claims he doesn't pay for any of them. ....

There is a Brazilian song called Esperando na janela. To me he is just telling me not to be that man in the song. He never said his successful rate is 100%. Many men will give up after 10 tries and maybe he does not give up so that is another way to look at it. He does p4 p too. Mr E speaks Spanish and Portuguese.

[Mr Enternational]

Don't believe anything on the internet. There is a guy on you tube, John Anthony Lifestyle, that claims to have slept with 1700 women, but like Mr E, always claims he doesn't pay for any of them.

When did I ever claim that? I claim that I do not pay chicks that are not hookers. HOOKERS I PAY! Hard for me to believe on the internet that it seems to be a great feat to sleep with normal women. Should I really believe that to be not true or is that incel shit real afterall? Maybe I am too busy talking to normal chicks and getting to know them instead of watching how other guys are living on youtube.

I do not believe people have been to the moon and it is not because I have not been able to do it myself, the way some of you guys don't believe someone else has done something on the basis that you have not been able to do it. I just left the scuba shop getting some gear repaired. The guy asked if I wanted to try my hand at fixing my BCD. I told him that I know a lot of shit about a lot of things; I know nothing about fixing scuba gear. Or should I have told him I do not believe it is possible to fix scuba gear because I have never done it?

[JjBee62]

If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?

I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.

That's why I went to Tantra Spa last week, in Bogota near 72nd st. They have new terms of engagement. The madame declined my request for half an hour session, insisted on one hour for 100 k with massage and the usual. I accepted the terms and was satisfied with the outcome. Of the line up offered, only two chicas I found particularly attractive (presented about 8 chicas). I would go again, still a good deal for me. Some guys will walk out when not finding something of their liking, and that's their right to so do. But i'm not too picky--even if there's only one chick, I'll go with that one chick and make it work, hehe. Seems the 100 k per hour starting point is a new development, as another other poster reported the same thing recently at this spot.

Why bother with mongering? I can think of a few reasons.

1. Especially as you get older, the free options tend to go downhill, or require too much time and effort. Although, in countries like Colombia, the options for free tend to be better and easier.

2. Minimal expectations from pros. They expect to be paid, that's about it. Free options often expect something more than just sex.

3. Less games and drama. At least usually.

[Mr Enternational]

If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?

I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.

Why does there have to be an either or? Today I am on my motorbike. Does that mean I should not want to ride my bicycle later or drive my car tomorrow?

I went to a party last night where there was advertised FREE FOOD! Should I had been skeptical that someone was just trying to lure me in to get something from me? Does that mean I should not want to pay for food today? I should just around for the rest of my life looking for places that I can get free food?

Hell, after the party with FREE food I was offered to go to a concert for FREE. Had I not gone with those chicks then it would have been $15. Then to add insult to injury the chicks wanted to ply me with FREE drinks! The nerve of them. I kept trying to leave to go pick up another chick but they kept filling my glass with Jack Daniels and ice. What do I owe them if this is quid pro quo? From now on should I go around only looking for free concerts and free drinks instead of paying for them since it was all free last night?

You do what you want when you want. There does not have to be an "if you do it this way then you should never want to do it that way".

[JackTaggart]

If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?

I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.

That's why I went to Tantra Spa last week, the one near 72nd st. They have new terms of engagement. The madame declined my request for half an hour session, insisted on one hour for 100 k with massage and the usual. I accepted the terms and was satisfied with the outcome. Of the line up offered, only two chicas I found particularly attractive (there were about 8 or so). I would go again, still good deal for me. Seems the 100 k per hour starting point is a new development, as one other poster reported the same thing recently at this spot.

I've been multiple times in the last few weeks. And last year & early this year. I went today / Thursday to Spa and it was the same 50 k for 30 minutes as always. As of last week bar was 60 k for 30 minutes.

For an hour 100 k makes sense. But there's certainly no requirement for that. The jeffe at bar hassled me about not doing an hour one time, but the girl didn't care.

[Frogg]

If some of these guys claim to be able to get things for free, then why do they bother with mongering?

I am skeptical when offered free stuff, I believe in quid pro quo, preferrably where payment terms are clearly expressed. It saves time and emotional stress.

That's why I went to Tantra Spa last week, in Bogota near 72nd st. They have new terms of engagement. The madame declined my request for half an hour session, insisted on one hour for 100 k with massage and the usual. I accepted the terms and was satisfied with the outcome. Of the line up offered, only two chicas I found particularly attractive (presented about 8 chicas). I would go again, still a good deal for me. Some guys will walk out when not finding something of their liking, and that's their right to so do. But i'm not too picky--even if there's only one chick, I'll go with that one chick and make it work, hehe. Seems the 100 k per hour starting point is a new development, as another other poster reported the same thing recently at this spot.

[Naked Gunz]

Navigating a woman's head games, and her desire to separate me from my money is not worth the chase like it used to be. After 64 years of life, 50 countries and about a 700 body count I don't lead with money, I end with it by putting as little as I can in her greedy hand as she heads out the door. If it was good I will call her again. I then proceed happily to a drink, a pizza, my movie, my life.

[TjBrazil]

It is my personal opinion that some individuals on this forum use confusing terminology. There are lots of ways to get sex from a girl. Money is simply one of them. There is nothing wrong with dating. But it takes time, energy (and in my opinion) money. Some would have us believe that they simply walk up to a girl and present themselves and panties drop. Nah, brother it does not happen that way. You have to develop your personality, that ability to talk to girls, your persona style, and the more money you have the easier it gets. You do not have to lead with money. The the signals that you have it, like jewelry, nice cell phone, nice digs where you stay all signal to the natural instinct of girls to get with you.

I've also been married two a girl to made more money than I have. And if anyone try to tell you that their wife paid for EVERYTHING that is well (in my opinion) in accurate. Image going up to you wife and asking her for 100 USD so you can buy her and anniversary present. LOL!

Personality plays into all human interactions. Especially with girls. Not all prostitutes will take your money. And all prostitutes are fucking someone who is not paying them. Furthermore, all quote un quote normal girls will fuck for money when they need to. The long running discussion in the threads of may countries is what is the definition of a prostitute. Some think is a bright line definition. I happen to believe that it is not. Because any real man who is not deluding himself knows that he does not know what his girlfriend of wife is doing when she is outside of his eye sight. Believe you me, I have fucked enough girlfriends and wives on the down low to tell you that is absolute fact.

And the only time I have ever been burned in the fuck game is when I had girlfriends I was raw dogging. Never with a prostitute and I have gone head in naked on plenty of them and flooded the zone. Prostitutes are easy. Everyone knows where the hos are at. Normal girls take work. No man should base his total sex life on one or the other. They both serve their purposes. The purpose of the forum is to share information on how to have sex with girls. I have many girls that I have sex with all over the world. Some of which I call my girlfriend. One of which lives in Medellin, Colombia. Ask me if I give her money for expenses. My answer is yes. Am I going to let someone define her as my prostitute? Nah, never happen.

Cheep charles of the world will never live like me and my brother who travel the world and fuck girls where ever we are at. If what you read does not pass the smell test. Don't pay any attention about it and do what works best for you. Do not be a repeat offender of Man Law 101: No man is going to tell another man how to spend his hard earn money or who to fuck.

Don't believe anything on the internet. There is a guy on you tube, John Anthony Lifestyle, that claims to have slept with 1700 women, but like Mr E, always claims he doesn't pay for any of them. They aren't prostitutes he says. All regular girls. He sells courses to simps on how to talk to girls. LOL. Anyone that's been with regular girls, knows how much work you need to put in, as a non celebrity, to sleep with that many girls. Impossible. Coincidentally, all his videos are of him hooking up with girls from mongering countries. Why is it that all of these studs that sleep with all these regular girls are always in countries that are known for sex tourism and they don't speak English, and the guys don't speak Spanish. Why aren't these Romeos that can talk any girls pants off doing it in LA or Miami. Paying for sex is so much easier, which is why we all do it.