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[Gagoo]

Thanks for the info although seems pretty pointless to take one to Aruba, Bonaire, mexico, Guatemala, panama. Why not Europe, or some place where you can't find someone (cheap and easy) to have sex with you? BTW, Colombianas can get into Peru easy enough. Its so different for Brasiliera passport holders who get into some places (and with longer stay times) than US citizens.

I think it depends on what you want. The girl I brought with me to Aruba, I gave her $30 for a taxi in Panama, and 100,000 Colombian pesos so she will get home OK in Colombia. That was for 5 full days. It a good thing she doesn't eat much because it is expensive to eat in Aruba. I drove all around Aruba, which isn't a good idea in the little car I rented, but I didn't have to do it by myself. In Mexico, yeah, lots of ladies, even in Cancun there is a place I like. But me and her went to 4 or 5 of the Mayan ruin places, and a few cities. But, yeah, there are working women all of Mexico, but I don't like the Mexico City scene. Also, yep, no reason to bring a girl to Panama, but in Panama the price keeps going up. I am going to take a non-working lady to Europe in a few days. Panama City to Barcelona was the cheapest way I could find to Europe round-trip. A good flight that won't have to do the US layover is only $547. I know some Dominican Republic girls that went to Barcelona, but I will probably only be able to say Hi to them. I never had sex with the girl I am taking, and I happened to see her and her mom today. Her mom approves of me. I think the lady I am bringing knows sex shall be incurred during our travels in Europe. I tried to get with her before but she had a boyfriend and her older sister that I was fucking said stay away from me. Now, older sister wants younger sister to dump her boyfriend that lives in Miami, and she knows (or thinks) I am a good guy. The mom (thinks) I am a good guy also. I just don't know how to let the younger sister not get heart broken or something when we return because I'm not going to hang around Panama when we get back.

[Bango Cheito]

It's also almost impossible to know these things. Costs of living in Colombia vary insanely depending on which city, neighborhood, estrato and household spending habits. And even the bus fares can double or triple depending on where you're going and when.

That looks like a list that a gringo who supports a chica want to know the answers to so that he knows how much she needs to send monthly. LOL.

[Rodeo9112]

I thought I heard that Avianca doesn't charge for catching earlier standby flights if empty seats are available. Anyone able to verify this or clarify their policy?

Thanks!

[Sky Jump]

Any red meat eaters in town. I was recommend this Brazilian Steak house and wondered if anyone has been there or would like to join me for lunch tomorrow and go over some mongering tails. Amarelo Rodizio is the name of the place. It is in Poblado you can google it.

Cheers

[Rodeo9112]

That looks like a list that a gringo who supports a chica want to know the answers to so that he knows how much she needs to send monthly. LOL.

Nah, not the kid! It could help to make her think you might though!

[Golfinho]

I've brought my own Colombian sex source with meLater last year I was already in Guatemala. I don't know why I paid for her to come see me in Guatemala for there were already many girls there.This month, I took the same girl, almost 20 now, to Aruba, then we will go to Panama. Since December of 2015 Colombians will no longer need to apply for a visa to Aruba, and that goes for h.

Thanks for the info although seems pretty pointless to take one to Aruba, Bonaire, mexico, Guatemala, panama. Why not Europe, or some place where you can't find someone (cheap and easy) to have sex with you? BTW, Colombianas can get into Peru easy enough. Its so different for Brasiliera passport holders who get into some places (and with longer stay times) than US citizens.

[Gagoo]

I've brought my own Colombian sex source with me a few times in the last couple years. Here are some results.

On my first try I was already in Cancun Mexico, early last year and I read that Colombians do not need a visa to go to Mexico. So bought this hot college girl from Medellin a round trip ticket. She made it to Cancun, but they refused here and a couple other Colombian girls entry, and they were sent back to Colombia. I have seen this myself a few times. It was last month I took a flight from Mexico City to Bogota and I happen to sit near two Colombian ladies. I asked how long were they in Mexico. They said they got to Mexico today. But. They were flying back to Bogota. They got denied entry.

OK, second try. In the middle of last year I brought a nice and young 19 year old from Santa Marta with me. She normally works in Cartagena. She is only 19 and I keep telling her she will be more sexy when she is about 22 - 25 years old, but she is already sexy. She doesn't believe my story though. OK, so I planned for us to go to Panama a couple days and then Cancun. Again. Since I was with her and we said we are boyfriend and girlfriend if needed, we made it in to Panama and then Mexico. But we got searched in Cancun. I know that damn red light, green light isn't random. We each got red lights, two in a row. But we made it.

Later last year I was already in Guatemala. I don't know why I paid for her to come see me in Guatemala for there were already many girls there. But, I wanted to drive around to several places over a week. So I brought her with me. Guatemala also says no visa needed for Colombians. But they were going to send this short 19 year old Colombian girl back. I already told her to tell immigration that I am in Guatemala and will take care of her. She was lucky because the immigration guys were nice enough to let her connect her phone to WiFi. She started chatting with me on Whatsapp, and said they won't let her enter the country. I told her to tell them I am at the airport, ask them to talk to me. Well. Surprisingly a man comes walking to me and asks me if I'm "my name" and I said yes, then he asks to see my passport. Then he looks at it and says OK. So, she he goes back and lets my lady friend through.

This month, I took the same girl, almost 20 now, to Aruba, then we will go to Panama. Since December of 2015 Colombians will no longer need to apply for a visa to Aruba, and that goes for Curacao and Bonaire and I think St Maarten. We left from Cartagena and they searched us for drugs, and made us sign a consent to an X-Ray. I was afraid they weren't going to let her leave Colombia for whatever dumb reason. Immigration was asking her all kinds of questions with a mean look on his face. But he let me out easy. Anyways, we had a layover in Panama with no issues, then we land in Aruba and the Dutch people and locals go to the right. Colombians along with "others" go in the middle. A lady asked to see passports and sent most people to the middle. There were quite a few Colombian couples. Well, I had an American Passport, and she gave me the VIP treatment and said I can go to the left. I said I was with the Colombian lady, then the immigration lady said she has to go to in the middle, so you can go with her. So, it it Dutch and locals to the right, most people in the middle and Americans can go to the left. I imagine other Western countries can go to the left also.

Anyways, the Aruban customs lady did not ask one damn question to my Colombian girl, then stamped her passport and and greeted her in Spanish. Well, the immigration officer didn't ask me any question either. I was thinking, wow that as easy. We got our luggage, and had my customs form ready. Well customs kept waving everyone through and didn't even ask to see our form. So, Aruba was extremely easy, almost too easy. But I'm sure bags have lots of extra screening after you drop off your suitcase and before you get your suitcase back.

Something might have changed. Last year these two women didn't have any cellphone service in other countries. This time the girl I am with has her phone working in different countries.

Others: I have personally seen women turned away from Panama. But as we know, lots of them make it. Also my lady friend has been to Peru a couple times and she said it was very easy for her. So you can bring your lady friend there.

Upcoming: I am very close to agreeing to taking a non-working girl hot enough to be a supermodel with me to Europe. I use to fuck her sister who used to work in LE Palace in Panama. I wanted to have sex with the younger sister but the younger sister doesn't do such things. The Older sister got married last year, and the younger sister finally says she will go somewhere with me. She is not a working lady, otherwise I'd show some pictures of her. Colombians are supposed to be able to go to most European countries (Schengen) now with no Visa. When I was in Medellin last week I sent messages to a Energy girl (Medellin), and she said she was in Paris. I know of some girls from the Dominican Republic, one of them was the most famous on a forum, it had over 100 pages about her, name Hennessy. Her and her sister went to Spain about 6 weeks ago and they are still there working in Barcelona. I imagine they choose Spain because those girls can't speak any other language. When I was in Medellin there was a magazine called Don Juan. On the cover the story was about a rush of Colombian prostitutes going to Spain.

[Rodeo9112]

Wonder if the chicas know the monthly pension of a generic 20-year gringo grunt -- as in insight into their negotiating.

Hahaha! Good point. So what is the best job to say you have?

[Queens35]

Just wondering if anyone with insight knows what a working girl's true needs are. Specifically, can we get costs on the following bills from the barrios (in Colombian Pesos)?

-Electricity.
-Water.
-Gas.
-Groceries (family of 5).
-Childcare.
-Milk (baby formula).
-Bus ticket (say, Round trip Medellin-Bogota).
-Clinic checkup (OBGYN).
-Low cost hotel for visiting working girls.
-Hair salon appointment.

I just figured being armed with these figures will give a good insight on factors in negotiating. Any thoughts?

Please feel free to add anything I missed!

Rodeo.

That looks like a list that a gringo who supports a chica want to know the answers to so that he knows how much she needs to send monthly. LOL.

[Golfinho]

I just figured being armed with these figures will give a good insight on factors in negotiating. Any thoughts?
Please feel free to add anything I missed!.

Wonder if the chicas know the monthly pension of a generic 20-year gringo grunt -- as in insight into their negotiating.

[Rodeo9112]

Just wondering if anyone with insight knows what a working girl's true needs are. Specifically, can we get costs on the following bills from the barrios (in Colombian Pesos)?

-Electricity.

-Water.

-Gas.

-Groceries (family of 5).

-Childcare.

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-Milk (baby formula).

-Bus ticket (say, Round trip Medellin-Bogota).

-Clinic checkup (OBGYN).

-Low cost hotel for visiting working girls.

-Hair salon appointment.

I just figured being armed with these figures will give a good insight on factors in negotiating. Any thoughts?

Please feel free to add anything I missed!

Rodeo.

[Golfinho]

Depends greatly on what part of the country. the Western and Southern parts of the country are probably not so advisable. Still a fair amount of Guerrilla and Para-military activity.

Driving around the deep south with a friend -- a biologist with the Univ. At Pasto -- she said that after a private school bus was stopped and everyone robbed, that afterwards for their annual excursion to the coast at Tumaco, they always rented the oldest, most beat up bus they could find and were invariably left alone. No one advised to go along the southern areas in vicinity Pacific Coast. Wonder what its like though -- would encourage someone to go for it. Arriving by air into Pasto, it's spectacular, even better than Bucamaranga.

[Rodeo9112]

Depends greatly on what part of the country. I've done the bus that goes through the Zona Cafetera (Armenia, Manizales, Pereira) from Medellin to Cali. It's reasonably safe and it's a lovely trip. Stunning landscape.

OTOH as Golfinho pointed out the Western and Southern parts of the country are probably not so advisable. Still a fair amount of Guerrilla and Para-military activity.

Yeah, that's sorta the area I was thinking of. Also looking at Bogota to Medellin or Medellin to Cartagena or Bogota to Cali.

Thanks for the insight!

[Combo]

Wondering if buses still get intercepted, inspected, robbed enroute by bad actors? Obviously, many locals take buses from city / town to town, but how safe is it for a gringo? I thought it would be a nice way to see the countryside. Any info would be appreciated.

Depends greatly on what part of the country. I've done the bus that goes through the Zona Cafetera (Armenia, Manizales, Pereira) from Medellin to Cali. It's reasonably safe and it's a lovely trip. Stunning landscape.

OTOH as Golfinho pointed out the Western and Southern parts of the country are probably not so advisable. Still a fair amount of Guerrilla and Para-military activity.

[Golfinho]

Pasto, drove around and south to near border Ecuador. Very nice countryside, truth fishing. t.

The fishing was for truta. The 'preview report' displayed truta, yet post appeared as 'truth'. Why does this have to happen? Anyway, with car you can get to some great places, micro-climate zones, plus offer rides to girls everywhere.