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  1. #6963
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    1. Prescriptive v descriptive. You must use words according to definitions v you are free to use words how you see fit.

    2. Lazy. Too lazy to say your from the USA or your a USAn. It would be simpler and more for all if you simply said your Floridan, or conetticutian or whatever, instead of saying your from a continent.

    I never hear europeans say theyre from europe or africans say theyre from africa.

    3. Not relevant.
    1. You are free to use words as you see fit, however, if you use words in a different way than the people you interact with, there may be some communication difficulties.

    2. "instead of saying your from a continent".

    Are you saying that when someone says he is an American, he is saying that he is from the continent of America? In the seven-continent model that is used in English-speaking countries, there is no continent named America. There is a continent named America in the six-continent combined-America model that is mainly used in Romance language countries. Also, you should have written "you're" instead of "your. ".

    "I never hear europeans say theyre from europe or africans say theyre from africa. ".

    When someone from the United States of America says he is from America he is referring to the United States of America, not the continent of America in the six-continent combined-America. English-speaking countries use a different continent model.

    As for saying "I'm a USAn" instead of "I'm an American," well, that is a word you made up. I wouldn't expect other people to use it. It doesn't have anything to do with laziness.

    3. It is relevant. People who grew up in countries that use the seven-continent model generally use the word America to refer to the United States of America. People who grew up in countries that use the six-continent combined-America model tend to use the word America to refer to a continent instead and sometimes criticize the usage of the word America to refer to the United States of America. However, after I explain that that there is no continent named America in the seven-continent model, they usually have a better understanding of why the word has a different meaning for people from a different part of the world.

    I think it is unlikely that you grew up in country where English is the primary language.

  2. #6962
    Quote Originally Posted by Trim1  [View Original Post]
    What do you mean by "that language was prescriptive"? And what exactly are you referring to with "And very lazy"?

    Also, where did you grow up?
    1. Prescriptive v descriptive. You must use words according to definitions v you are free to use words how you see fit.

    2. Lazy. Too lazy to say your from the USA or your a USAn. It would be simpler and more for all if you simply said your Floridan, or conetticutian or whatever, instead of saying your from a continent.

    I never hear europeans say theyre from europe or africans say theyre from africa.

    3. Not relevant.

  3. #6961
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    You're being argumentative over semantics.

    If you tell anyone in Colombia "soy americano", or "soy de america", 100% of them will infer that means the united states.
    1. No, not at all. Poster said Petro's policies are anti-American. I said no, he is clearly cultivating better relationships w most American countries. Hence he is pro-American.

    2. No doubt they would think your from USA bcos they would deduce from what you said that you can't speak Spanish.

  4. #6960
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    I had no idea that language was prescriptive. You should write a book about it. Yes. And very lazy. I prefer if you use made up words like USAn.
    What do you mean by "that language was prescriptive"? And what exactly are you referring to with "And very lazy"?

    Also, where did you grow up?

  5. #6959
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    One question though. Are you talking about the United States of America or LOS Estados Unidos Mexicanos?
    Theoretically, "Estados Unidos" could refer to either the United States of America or Estados Unidos Mexicanos, but I'm sure you know just as well as I do that the generally accepted meaning of Estados Unidos is the former rather than the latter. So far, I have not met anyone who thinks that "Estados Unidos" (without "Mexicanos" following the two words) refers to Mexico or that an estadounidense is a person from Mexico.

    I wrote Estados Unidos Mexicanos without "LOS" preceding the three words to follow the language of this article: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9xico.

    For example, "Desde su conformacion como Estado federal, el nombre oficial del pais es Estados Unidos Mexicanos, aunque la Constitucion de 1824 usaba indistintamente las expresiones Nacion Mexicana why Estados Unidos Mexicanos. ".

    I'm sure you also know that the generally accepted meaning of "America" in English-speaking countries is "the United States of America. " You've spent a lot of time in Latin America, so you probably already knew that "America" is the name of a continent for Latin Americans. Some people struggle with the idea that the word "America" can have different meanings in different parts of the world.

  6. #6958

    So true!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    You're being argumentative over semantics. Because you're bored maybe? You have some misplaced nationalist pride?

    If you tell anyone in Colombia "soy americano", or "soy de america", 100% of them will infer that means the united states.

    Nobody in south or central america refers to themselves as americano or "de america" besides the over-educated dweebs at univ. Of sao paolo that are also overly semantic. Because they have some gripe against the united states-centric global culture that everyone is subjected to, whether you like it or not. Get a grip, amigo.
    This is spot on true, not only within the Americas, but pretty much anywhere else in the world as well where "America" and being "American" is associated first and foremost with the United States. Not saying it's right, wrong, or indifferent. It just is (shrugs).

  7. #6957
    Quote Originally Posted by Trim1  [View Original Post]
    A clearer way to express what you wanted to say...

    I use the seven-continent model in English...

    With "A Venezuelan is as American as a USAn," you are making up a word and writing something that would not sound natural to most native English speakers...

    For me, "America" refers to the United States of America in English...

    Would you say that I am egoistic in English but not in Spanish?
    I had no idea that language was prescriptive. You should write a book about it. Yes. And very lazy. I prefer if you use made up words like USAn.

  8. #6956

    Hilarious

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Nope, not for me. USA is part of the Americas and is just as American, but no more so, than any other country in the Americas (North and South American). I. e. A Venezuelan is as American as a USAn. I find it very egoistic of some USAns to think of themselves as THE Amercians. Bit like some of the English that tihnk Britian is England.
    You're being argumentative over semantics. Because you're bored maybe? You have some misplaced nationalist pride?

    If you tell anyone in Colombia "soy americano", or "soy de america", 100% of them will infer that means the united states.

    Nobody in south or central america refers to themselves as americano or "de america" besides the over-educated dweebs at univ. Of sao paolo that are also overly semantic. Because they have some gripe against the united states-centric global culture that everyone is subjected to, whether you like it or not. Get a grip, amigo.

  9. #6955
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Just for shits and giggles I looked a few things up.

    Exchange rate for USD to Euro is about the same as it was late 2020. Same when compared to the GBP. There have been ups and downs, but the current rate is the same under Biden as under Trump.

    However, when looking at COP, it was around 3950 late 2020 and is 4296 today. You're still better off at this point than you were 3 years ago, when it comes to spending money in Colombia.

    Airline ticket prices spike every summer. The trick is to either travel off-season, or start shopping tickets 3 months in advance.
    If only he loved facts as much as he loves latinas.

  10. #6954
    Quote Originally Posted by Trim1  [View Original Post]
    In Spanish, I conform with the convention of using the six-continent combined-America model and would write "Venezuela es tan americana como Estados Unidos. " However, I use the seven-continent model in English. To express the same idea in natural-sounding English, I would write "Venezuela is as much a part of the Americas as the United States is a part of the Americas. ".
    One question though. Are you talking about the United States of America or LOS Estados Unidos Mexicanos?

  11. #6953
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    I answered your Q w the first word I wrote. Nope. My mother tongue is English, although if you ever heard my mother, you might wonder.
    OK, that wasn't clear to me because of the "not for me" that you wrote afterwards in the same sentence. It seemed to me that you were writing "Nope, not for me" in response to "For us, 'America' refers to the United States of America" and were ignoring my question about whether you grew up in Latin America. Your other sentences seemed to support that interpretation.

    A clearer way to express what you wanted to say in English would have been to write, "nope, I didn't grow up in Latin America, but 'America' doesn't mean the United States of America for me. ".

    In Spanish, I conform with the convention of using the six-continent combined-America model and would write "Venezuela es tan americana como Estados Unidos. " However, I use the seven-continent model in English. To express the same idea in natural-sounding English, I would write "Venezuela is as much a part of the Americas as the United States is a part of the Americas. ".

    With "A Venezuelan is as American as a USAn," you are making up a word and writing something that would not sound natural to most native English speakers.

    For me, "America" refers to the United States of America in English and "America" (with an accent over the e) refers to a continent in Spanish. If someone refers to an "American" in English, I would think that he is talking about someone from the United States. If someone refers to an "americano" in Spanish, I would consider the possibility that he is talking about someone from the continent of America, but I would also consider the possibility that he is talking about someone from the United States of America since I have sometimes seen the term used that way in Spanish despite the different continent model.

    Would you say that I am egoistic in English but not in Spanish?

  12. #6952
    Quote Originally Posted by Trim1  [View Original Post]
    You didn't answer my question. Did you grow up in Latin America? Am I correct in thinking that English is not your native language?
    I answered your Q w the first word I wrote. Nope. My mother tongue is English, although if you ever heard my mother, you might wonder.

  13. #6951
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Nope, not for me. USA is part of the Americas and is just as American, but no more so, than any other country in the Americas (North and South American). I. e. A Venezuelan is as American as a USAn. I find it very egoistic of some USAns to think of themselves as THE Amercians. Bit like some of the English that tihnk Britian is England.
    You didn't answer my question. Did you grow up in Latin America? Let me add another question: Am I correct in thinking that English is not your native language?

  14. #6950
    Quote Originally Posted by Trim1  [View Original Post]
    Did you grow up in Latin America? English-speakers refer to the "Americas" when we want to group North America and South America together. For us, "America" refers to the United States of America.
    Nope, not for me. USA is part of the Americas and is just as American, but no more so, than any other country in the Americas (North and South American). I. e. A Venezuelan is as American as a USAn. I find it very egoistic of some USAns to think of themselves as THE Amercians. Bit like some of the English that tihnk Britian is England.

  15. #6949
    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    From a high of 5000 towards the end of Trumps presidency, we are now at 42 and change, with the continuing direction down. The monetary policy by the Obiden administration will have us all rethinking our travel plans. Playing in our favorite Colombian paradise is now about 20% higher than it was 2 years ago. Couple that with the highest Flight prices in recent memory and our hobby has become prohibitively more expensive. Let's hope the trend reverses soon. But I wouldn't bet on it!
    Just for shits and giggles I looked a few things up.

    Exchange rate for USD to Euro is about the same as it was late 2020. Same when compared to the GBP. There have been ups and downs, but the current rate is the same under Biden as under Trump.

    However, when looking at COP, it was around 3950 late 2020 and is 4296 today. You're still better off at this point than you were 3 years ago, when it comes to spending money in Colombia.

    Airline ticket prices spike every summer. The trick is to either travel off-season, or start shopping tickets 3 months in advance.

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