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[Bango Cheito]

U do make a good point about golddiggers though.

The little gang of chicas I know could all be golddiggers and looking for a way up in life. But they are horrible golddiggers because not one of them has a wealthy or extravagant boyfriend. Especially my girlfriend she found in me one of the cheaper bastards around.

From what I've seen, Colombians are just more tolerant of age differences, PERIOD. It could also be a 20 year old dude going out with a 40 year old cuchibarbie. People just don't get hung up about that shit here.

[El Rey De Pollo]

Dude, I changed my name from Traveling Gring to El Rey de Pollo. This has/had nothing to do with the situation. Or at least shouldn't have. One can get tired of is name and change it. But what I ended up with was a posting history with the combined posts of three names: Traveling Gring, El Rey de Pollo and Mesocorny.

Busted? I don't know. Sure looks like it. All I can say is I am not this guy. I have asked Jackson to check out how it happened. If he comes back and says there is no error, and I must be Mesocorny and posting under several names, well, then there really isn't anything I can say. Then I won't stick around trying to defend my case. That would be a waste of time.

But I hope Jackson can clear things up. If there are two things in this world I have never wanted to be it is a scizofrenic. and a Swede.

Dude. You've been busted. Just give up. It's not that you posted under a different name. You CHANGED names.

I guess you didn't read the FAQ:

Changes in your User Name will be reflected in all your past reports. In other words, all your existing reports and your future reports will display your new User Name.

[Ziggy00]

I was only active on the Cuba forum and that forum got infested with lies.

May I ask you what do you mean by that? I'm interested cause I'm planning visiting Cuba for the firs time.

Regards,

[Ricker]

Where do you guys get this Colombianas like older men from? I am 29 speak spanish fluetly and have done 11 trips in less than 2 years visiting Cartagena, Cali, Medellin, and Bogota and since I have been going to Colombia in the citys I have been to I have observed (I am not talking about Gringos) the average Colombiana is not dating an older Colombiano in public. Lets speak about Parque Lleras for example in Medellin do you see the average young (18-25) Colombiana with an older(40+) Colombiano in public? I don't think this is really common in Colombia culture from what I have observed unless she is a golddigger/pre-pagado/puta. Now if you told me this happens in the DR I will co-sign with you because I have seen it there.

Parque Lleras is for the rich and famous amigo.

It sure doesn't represent the majority in Colombia, not by a long shot.

My observations on this subject below:

Take care

I have to say guys that I've been hanging out in Brazil quite a bit the past few years, mostly Sao Paulo, and I see the same exact deal there, the younger girls preferring to be with an older guy, especially if the guy has a young attitude about him.

I don't really notice a difference really between Colombia and Brazil in that respect.

Just like in Colombia, as you see in areas like Parque Lleras, where the more affluent hang out, the girls will generally be with guys their own age.

I've observed the same in Brazil.

At the social-economic levels where the younger native guys tend to be more jerk-offs, the girls tend to appreciate the older guy. In both Colombia and Brazil as well as countries in between ...



... Good luck amigos.

[Hioctane]

Okay, got to apologize then. Not for posting under different names, because believe it or not, I am not. But for coming at you. Checked my history and you are right. I've got that guys posts in my posting history as posted under the name I just changed to (simply because gringo makes everyone think I am American.)

Dude. You've been busted. Just give up. It's not that you posted under a different name. You CHANGED names.

I guess you didn't read the FAQ:

Changes in your User Name will be reflected in all your past reports. In other words, all your existing reports and your future reports will display your new User Name.

[Soldierb11]

Where do you guys get this Colombianas like older men from? I am 29 speak spanish fluetly and have done 11 trips in less than 2 years visiting Cartagena, Cali, Medellin, and Bogota and since I have been going to Colombia in the citys I have been to I have observed (I am not talking about Gringos) the average Colombiana is not dating an older Colombiano in public. Lets speak about Parque Lleras for example in Medellin do you see the average young (18-25) Colombiana with an older(40+) Colombiano in public? I don't think this is really common in Colombia culture from what I have observed unless she is a golddigger/pre-pagado/puta. Now if you told me this happens in the DR I will co-sign with you because I have seen it there.

U do make a good point about golddiggers though.

The little gang of chicas I know could all be golddiggers and looking for a way up in life. But they are horrible golddiggers because not one of them has a wealthy or extravagant boyfriend. Especially my girlfriend she found in me one of the cheaper bastards around.

[Soldierb11]

Where do you guys get this Colombianas like older men from? I am 29 speak spanish fluetly and have done 11 trips in less than 2 years visiting Cartagena, Cali, Medellin, and Bogota and since I have been going to Colombia in the citys I have been to I have observed (I am not talking about Gringos) the average Colombiana is not dating an older Colombiano in public. Lets speak about Parque Lleras for example in Medellin do you see the average young (18-25) Colombiana with an older(40+) Colombiano in public? I don't think this is really common in Colombia culture from what I have observed unless she is a golddigger/pre-pagado/puta. Now if you told me this happens in the DR I will co-sign with you because I have seen it there.

I get this from what I have seen and been told. I met a girl last year at LDV, was a great GFE, so I went back and had another great week of GFE with her, now she is more a girlfriend than a GFE and I have been back 3 more times and stay with her at her apartment away from bocagrande and laguito. I have met about 8-10 of her girlfriends and EVERY ONE has a story about their first boyfriend who was much older than they are. Most of the girls started dating colombianos when they were 15-16 years and their b/FS were on average 35 years. Fast forward to now and those girls are 25years and again EVERY ONE of them has a b/f at least 10 years older.

Sure there are always exceptions to every rule and there are certaintly going to be some colombianas that prefer men there own age but I just haven't seen it

[El Rey De Pollo]

Okay, got to apologize then. Not for posting under different names, because believe it or not, I am not. But for coming at you. Checked my history and you are right. I've got that guys posts in my posting history as posted under the name I just changed to (simply because gringo makes everyone think I am American...)

Guess this is to no avail. Other than to ask Jackson what's up. You have now presented documentation and it sure looks like documentation. But if you've done your research down through the years I've been on, you'll see that (apart from being antagonistic as you seem to think I am) I've been around the Cuba forum helping out loads of guys. Why the f*** would I suddenly be posting under another name of some 20 year old guy in the Colombia forum wanting help? Wouldn't my chances of getting help be better if I was myself? Someone with a history of helping others and more posts to my name?

mesocorny: Could you post something? Would love to see if a new post from you goes into my history as well. Tried a PM, but can't write you.

Okay, that's cool. I haven't posted anything here for a long time because I was only active on the Cuba forum and that forum got infested with lies. Like the Colombia forum. Guess I shouldn't have returned. Whatever. Cheers and good luck in Colombia. Wish I was there.

[Pana Nyc]

Where do you guys get this Colombianas like older men from? I am 29 speak spanish fluetly and have done 11 trips in less than 2 years visiting Cartagena, Cali, Medellin, and Bogota and since I have been going to Colombia in the citys I have been to I have observed (I am not talking about Gringos) the average Colombiana is not dating an older Colombiano in public. Lets speak about Parque Lleras for example in Medellin do you see the average young (18-25) Colombiana with an older(40+) Colombiano in public? I don't think this is really common in Colombia culture from what I have observed unless she is a golddigger/pre-pagado/puta. Now if you told me this happens in the DR I will co-sign with you because I have seen it there.

4. Age differences- it is very common for colomebianas to date men 15 years or more older than they are. A good percentage of them actually prefer an older man. Age does not matter to them very much its your attitude. So if you are 55 and act young and energetic you will have much better luck than a 45 year old thats acts old and worn out. If you are 25, do not act like a frat boy on spring break in Cancun. Latinas prefer a little maturity in their men, in fact if I was 25 years old and in Colombia I would lie and say I was 32 years or something.

Anyways that my 2 pesos, doesn't matter what you do as long as you are enjoying yourself.

[Hilltopper]

Dude, click on your own reporting history and you will see that the reports from Travelling Gring, Mesocorny and El Rey De Pollo are all from the same poster-you. That's what Cubanut called you out on when you replied to Mesocorny's post as El Rey De Pollo. You were commenting on your own report, but presenting it to us here that you were a different poster than Mesocorny.

Mesocorny showed up on the Colombia forum back in March as a 24 year-old Swede wondering about the legality of bangin' a 17-year old Colombiana (see below), before he and his 22-year old buddy made a return trip to Cartagena.

When you changed your name to El Rey De Pollo, your posts as Mesocorny merged to your new name, along with all your prior posts as Travelling Gring in the Cuba forum.

You were exposed by Cubanut and any person can read back through your prior posts to see that you've presented differning facts as to things like your age, how many times you've been to Cuba, etc.

I orginally responded to you in good faith as Mesocorny to provide you with my experience in dealing with non-pro Colombianas. At the time, I thought you were legit and tried to share helpful information with you, but it was all a hoax on your part. Now, you have zero credibility as far as I'm concerned.

You probably know the old saying-fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. I'll leave it at being fooled once by Mesocorny and regard anything you now post as El Rey De Pollo as a fairytale.

Top of the day to you.

Originally Posted by Mesocorny

Hi Guys,

Me and my buddy were down in Cartagena last week. I'm 24, he's 22. We met two super hot girls at a club, 17 year old both of them. No talk of money or anything like that. They were clearly to be had, but I chickened out because I just don't know the law on age. Been to Cuba a couple of times and there it's like the crime of the century to be with a girl under 18.

So I read the age of consent is 14 in Colombia, but does that go for foreigners as well?

We are heading down again in a few weeks, so basically would just like to know if we can hang out (and more) with these two girls without breaking any laws.

What I (think I) understand is that 18 is minimum age for prostitution, but keep in mind we are not looking for this.

[Rainman3]

I will be coming up to Bogota this weekend for a few days. Is there a Bogota 101 FAQ anywhere? I'm used to places like Bangkok where newbs can get around the scene very easily. I don't speak any Spanish. What's my play? Searched the net. Found lots of minute details. But little general info on how newbs should proceed.

Bro,

With no Spanish skills you will definitley need a guide in Bogota.

Things would have been much easier for you if you would have booked Medellin and stayed at one of the Monger Motels and barring that Cartagena would have been easier.

Be careful, be safe Y Buena Suerte!

Rainman3

[El Rey De Pollo]

I must lack something in the brain-department, but don't understand nada of what you're saying. Please hook up with Jackson for an IP check or explain to me in simple words what combination you are talking about. Going through your own posting history you seem to have severe problems expressing yourself, even though I take it English is your primary language. So I take you calling me antagonistic and full of shit with a grain of salt. Allow me to call you a sorry sucker trying to suck up to veteran posters at every chance presented. I can't really call you full of shit, as you seem to have no opinions of your own, but your tongue must have a constant taste of shit from all the asslicking you're doing.

In any case, please explain to a full-of-shit retard like myself what the fuck you are talking about, and how many names you think I am posting under and how you would prefer to document that.

I'm sure it must be a software glitch that has caused the poster Mesco's posts to be combined with your Travelling Gring posts and now El Rey De Pollo posts. I'm convinced it has to be a glitch because after reading back through the history of your trip reports it's obvious to see that there are many inconsistancies in factual information reported by the 3 different (yet combined) poster names on various forums here, i.e., your age, expierences, etc. The only common traits the three posters appear to have is that they are antagonistic toward other posters, and as an astute poster so eloquently opined below---full of shit.

Has to be a software glitch....right?

[Dcpublius]

I will be coming up to Bogota this weekend for a few days. Is there a Bogota 101 FAQ anywhere? I'm used to places like Bangkok where newbs can get around the scene very easily. I don't speak any Spanish. What's my play? Searched the net. Found lots of minute details. But little general info on how newbs should proceed.

[Hilltopper]

not sure i said cuba was easy for doing non-pros the first night. i think i said i have seen a shitload of disappointed mongers scraping themselves around the streets finding nothing. the good girls there are generally speaking scared to shit to just talk to a foreigner because that can get them in a world of shit with the authorities, their neighbors. or both.

in fact, i find cuba more and more uncharmiong and uninteresting in that aspect. 15 years ago it was amazing. not you have a a population thats frightened to talk with foreigners. and the putas, people say havana is full of hookers, but if you spend months there and hit the 5-7 big clubs on a regular basis, you will soon realize it's the same 100 hookers touring the clubs.

i don't mind silicone above so much. below i find it stupid. but that's because i never got into that fat-latin-booty thing. but i see there are loads of websites only with big-ass latinas, so it must be popular.

actually, my personal opinion is that south america as a whole has just about been ruined. i first started traveling there 15 years ago and it was great. too many of us gringos have been around and fucked too many girls. that is what has created this obsession down there of being/not being a hooker. which makes many girls stay away from a foreigner. this is just how i am seeing it. i could be wrong and just have lost my overview. and memories from back then may have been painted.

cubanut? what the heck are you talking about? i know you from before. i changed my name from traveling gring to this name a few days ago. because the first was always a typo. i think we've talked on the cuba forum in the past?

in any case, don't know the guy. and sure ain't the guy. ask jackson to check my ip. whatever.

i'm sure it must be a software glitch that has caused the poster mesco's posts to be combined with your travelling gring posts and now el rey de pollo posts. i'm convinced it has to be a glitch because after reading back through the history of your trip reports it's obvious to see that there are many inconsistancies in factual information reported by the 3 different (yet combined) poster names on various forums here, i.e., your age, expierences, etc. the only common traits the three posters appear to have is that they are antagonistic toward other posters, and as an astute poster so eloquently opined below---full of shit.

has to be a software glitch....right?

[Soldierb11]

Imo all pussy is P4P in one way or the other. There are 3 different, basic approaches and all acceptable and just a matter of personal preference.

#1- go to a casa like Atenea in MDE and pay about 30kCOP for an half hour. Or have Tony hook you up on the beach in CTG for a short time girl

#2- go to a place like LDV in CTG, find a pro there and pay about 200COP for TLN and then if you have a good connection extend it into a GFE and spend a few more days with her

#3- pickup some non-pro in a club, shopping mall, beach, etc.

Date 1- maybe just a coffee somewhere (25k)

Date 2-Take her to a nice dinner in Plaza San Pedro (100k or more depending on drink choices) then maybe dancing(another 50k for entrance and drinks)

Date 3- another dinner perhaps in Argentinean steak house(at least 100k) then more dancing and hopefully then she will go home with you and give up the pussy.

Hopefully she gives it up and you don't have to go on dates 4-5 to get what you want

Doesn't matter which strategy we use, we still always P4P(even back home) Each of us prefers different approaches and to each their own.

Right now I usually prefer #2, that doesn't make it the best way, its just the way I prefer at this time

Since there has been a lot of talk recently about #3, how to get that non-pro. I have just a few suggestions

1. LEARN SOME SPANISH, to score with a non-pro it is essential. Now you do not have to be fluent just a good background and then work on your spanish down in Colombia with a lovely "long haired dictionary"

2. Clothes- Colombia is NOT Pattaya. Do not go out at night in cargo shorts, a Singha beer tank top and sandals. Try long pants, button up shirt and nice shoes and your odds will go up significantly compared to the guy next to you in his "Thailand mongering uniform"

3. Dancing- the better dancer you are the easier it will be to pickup a non-pro. But do not be discouraged if you can't dance just try try try. Latinas love to dance(obviously) and enjoy teaching you how.

4. Age differences- it is very common for colombianas to date men 15 years or more older than they are. A good percentage of them actually prefer an older man. Age does not matter to them very much its your attitude. So if you are 55 and act young and energetic you will have much better luck than a 45 year old thats acts old and worn out. If you are 25, do not act like a frat boy on spring break in Cancun. Latinas prefer a little maturity in their men, in fact if I was 25 years old and in Colombia I would lie and say I was 32 years or something.

Anyways that my 2 pesos, doesn't matter what you do as long as you are enjoying yourself.