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[Ricker]

By the way, the one in Barranquilla who asked me for money the other day is back on the train. All it took for me was to stop answering her calls and texts for a couple of days. She has apologized for asking me for money and says that she really likes me and she misses me and wants to be with me. I'm telling you man, you have to nip that shit in the bud. Don't let it linger. You have to make it so there will be no doubt in their mind that you will not be the one to play those games with them. Remember, there are too many more of them the same place that you got that one from. Be able to discern who wants you from who wants your money.

Hmmmm. A tiger don't change it's stripes amigo.

It's your deal, but I wouldn't trust that chica for un segundo.

Good luck.

[Member #3435]

I write this with a lot of hesitation since the last time I mentioned the overland security issue in some rural parts of Colombia several posters said I was full of it. So, this is not intended to deter travel to Colombia, just to reiterate and put the info out there. Principally for the newbies. That some areas of Colombia IMO, shouldn't be travelled overland. Particulaly in the southwest allthough there are other areas as well.

For about the past five days Caracol TV & the papers have reported almost daily separate FARC ambushes & hot skirmishes between the the FARC & the Army in the departments of Narino, Cauca & El Valle but quite frankly I didn't recognize any of the names of Municipalities mentioned so I wasn't prompted to post about it.

Well today, all over the Colombian news reports is the story of the the large truck that was ambushed by the FARC on the Panamerican Highway between Cali & Papoyan in Cauca. Two dead. Army responded. Lots of bomb material left behind by the FARC was found nearby. This is normally a secure highway travelled daily by the local population and intercity commercial traffic.

Be smart & have fun, Schwmm

[Mr Enternational]

I'm a foreigner, living in Medellin with a Colombian wife on a (second) visa that is valid for two years. That visa is glued on one of the pages in my passport.

My passport expires at the end of this year while my visa will expire a couple of months after that. That means that when I renew my passport, the old one will be destroyed with the visa(s) in it.

One of you recognize this situation and what was the sequel to that?

Me going to the DAS might give an answer, but before going there I'd like to have some knowledge.

They do not destroy the passport. They only cancel/invalidate it and give it back to you. They know that it contains visas that do not run concurrent with the passport expiration. But just to be safe let them know that you have a visa and in it and you must have it back.

[Artisttyp]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational] I had just spent 75, 000 pesos feeding her family and she wanted me to just hand them 100, 000 more pesos. Not the kid. I could see where this was headed so I decided to chalk it up and take the loss. I proceeded to walk the block to my hotel without looking back.

-You seem like a very nice guy. Someone like myself would have never given them a cent more. The fact that U-turned your back on them walking back to your hotel means nothing. They are 100k richer. I wish that's all it took to make $50 in NYC.

I think it is more an issue of home training. Whenever I came to Cali I would stay at my ex-girlfriend's house. She is now 19 years old. I refuse to let them straddle the fence. Either you are GF or you are P4P. Can't be both.

-It's not my business but how old are you? "She is now 19". There is no such thing at true love between an adult man and a 19 yr old. You and her have absolutely NOTHING in common. It's all about money and "what can you do for me"? You can find that in most Medellin casas. Why make it difficult when it doesn't have to be?

You have to make it so there will be no doubt in their mind that you will not be the one to play those games with them. Remember, there are too many more of them the same place that you got that one from. Be able to discern who wants you from who wants your money.

-You seem like a really nice guy with a heart. I'd keep it under a lock and key while mongering.

Of course this is ALL IMHO.

[LocoGringo]

I have a Colombian visa (permanent) and renewed my US passport. They US) sent my old passport back with the Visa intact, no problema. I also found it cheaper to say I am in Colombia as a tourist as long as I am staying less than 30 days.

[Hioctane]

Bro if you want a Gf in Colombia be prepared to deal with her kids expenses and maybe her family's as well. As HighO said, poor girls really need support, if you really love the girl 50k is not a reason to act like a cheap bastard. You wanted to play that game have to deal with it or forget about it, BFs are gone and they are on their own, You may know it, so free sex is out of the menu most of the time in this loving continent. At least this girl ask for her kids, some others ask for plastic surgery and shopping tours to the most expensive malls.

I actually prefer they say that they need it for plastic surgery or shopping. That way I can say no without guilt. I just don't like that they use kids as an excuse. If you don't want the problem.. don't have 3 kids before you turn 18! LOL. I don't like to deny kids, but it makes me mad when they use that excuse and they are probably using that same excuse for every extrano they meet.

[Mr Enternational]

here in bogota, it is not the norm for a boyfriend to help out his girlfriend financially. that's a whole nother level of relationship. generally the mutual financial support doesn't kick in unless the two people in question are cohabitating. you got a real bad egg there.

the people in most latin countries are poor. this is not the united states. the father doesn't normally support their children because they are poor. to a certain extent, us gringos take advantage of this. having a gf in latin society implies that you help them out financially. what you said was cold!

with my experience it is not the norm for a boyfriend in la society to give his girlfriend money (unless by boyfriend you mean gringo boyfriend). if it is, then where is all this money coming from? is it that the men have money but the women don't? if they are too poor to support their kids how are they handing out sums to a girlfriend that we as gringos are sometimes asked for? i have had a lion's share of girlfriends from mexico, central america, south america, and the dr. the average everyday lady will not ask a man for money, and many insist on carrying a fair share of the load (e. g. paying half or sometimes all). this especially holds true when they are the least bit educated.

around october i called myself trying to deal with a woman about 40 years old who had a nice ass apartment in the north of bogota. she did not have a job. i think her ex-husband was still paying for the place. she was just itching to get married again. why? imho because she was a sorry, lazy broad who wanted someone to take care of her. which is probably why her husband left her in the first place. i told her that it makes more sense to meet someone then decide you want to marry that person. not to decide you want to get married and afterwards find a person that is willing to do it with you.

long story short, i took her, her mom, and her son (who is 20 years old in college studying architecture and has a son as well) to eat sunday dinner. when their driver friend was dropping me at my hotel she asked me for money for her son to get some copies he needed for school. i told her i didn't have money for that. she said, "no problem. we will just go to the atm again. " she told her friend, without approval or acknowledgement from me, to stop at the atm that was near my hotel. i got out of the car and asked how much the copies were going to cost. she told me to get 100,000 pesos. i damn near cursed her out. i had just spent 75,000 pesos feeding her family and she wanted me to just hand them 100,000 more pesos. not the kid. i could see where this was headed so i decided to chalk it up and take the loss. i proceeded to walk the block to my hotel without looking back. now if you are going to tell me this type of thing is normal then i have a 1968 black and white floor model tv to sell you.

i think it is more an issue of home training. whenever i came to cali i would stay at my ex-girlfriend's house. she is now 19 years old. her parents do not have money. her dad is a concrete worker and her mom sews at home. they would always insist i stay at their house and not pay for a hotel when i was dating their daughter. her mom always made 3 meals/day and they would never think of accepting money from me. i went by there last night as a matter of fact. they have gotten a new decorative sofa that is smaller than the old casual one was. so i jokingly asked her mom where was i supposed to sleep now.

when i returned from there last night i talked to an old flame who was going to come by so we could go out about 11:30pm. she ended up not being able to make it; i forget the reason she told me. then this morning she called and apologized that she could not make it. she said the real reason was that she didn't have any money in her purse but she thought she would be able to scrape enough up to come see me. she said she was sorry but she was ashamed to tell me she didn't have any money. i told her that i understood but she did not need any money because i would have paid for the taxi. she repeated that she was really ashamed to tell me. then she invited me to come to her house for lunch.

now, i don't mind paying to take people out, buying them unsolicited gifts, paying for buses and taxis and things of that sort. but to give out cash, i'm just not seeing it. if i give them milk money on monday how are they going to get it for the next six days? (hint: from me again!) the most i am accustomed to a non-pro asking for is a souvenir from some place. now if it was someone i was very close to like my ex here in cali; if something happened and she needed money for school then gladly i would see what i could do. but to hand out money because a girl who i am trying to get to know had a kid with a deadbeat dad i will never do. if we are already fucking then i bring up the hooker line. if not, then i just distance myself from them. i refuse to let them straddle the fence. either you are gf or you are p4p. can't be both.

by the way, the one in barranquilla who asked me for money the other day is back on the train. all it took for me was to stop answering her calls and texts for a couple of days. she has apologized for asking me for money and says that she really likes me and she misses me and wants to be with me. i'm telling you man, you have to nip that shit in the bud. don't let it linger. you have to make it so there will be no doubt in their mind that you will not be the one to play those games with them. remember, there are too many more of them the same place that you got that one from. be able to discern who wants you from who wants your money.

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[Menteng]

I'm a foreigner, living in Medellin with a Colombian wife on a (second) visa that is valid for two years. That visa is glued on one of the pages in my passport.

My passport expires at the end of this year while my visa will expire a couple of months after that. That means that when I renew my passport, the old one will be destroyed with the visa(s) in it.

One of you recognize this situation and what was the sequel to that?

Me going to the DAS might give an answer, but before going there I'd like to have some knowledge.

[Zippy42]

Bro if you want a Gf in Colombia be prepared to deal with her kids expenses and maybe her family's as well. As HighO said, poor girls really need support, if you really love the girl 50k is not a reason to act like a cheap bastard. You wanted to play that game have to deal with it or forget about it, BFs are gone and they are on their own, You may know it, so free sex is out of the menu most of the time in this loving continent. At least this girl ask for her kids, some others ask for plastic surgery and shopping tours to the most expensive malls.

I have dated many women from all over Colombia in the past 10 years and to avoid the above, just pass on the barrios chicas and ones with Kids, Contrary to popular belief, you can find hot, professional women in Colombia that will not ask for a dime from you and give great GFE. You just have to do your research. Most guys think with a Dingle only, so a poor barrio chica gets them motoring. We all have been lured in by this and it ends up costing a lot more then just paying by the hour, but you go after a more educated women, she usually does not need your help. Last time I paid for more then food and drink, which I would need anyway, was maybe 5 years ago. I still buy them little gifts, but cell phones, expensive clothes, plastic surgery, give me a break, you are only proliferating the problem.

[Dealdo]

I don’t get this mentality. I am sitting her in Barranquilla. I am going back and forth texting this non-pro who I hit yesterday. She decides to wake up and send me a text asking if I could loan her US$50 because her daughter needs books for school. I told her no. Then she asks me not to put the pictures I took of her on the internet. I’m like why would I do that, they are private. So she says that she is going to leave the house to see if someone can loan her the money. I told her in that case I am going to leave Barranquilla since I won’t be able to see her.

Now this is the part where I always get tripped up. She said that she wants to be my girlfriend but this implies that she has a daughter who I will have to help her with financially. I tell her but your daughter has a father and I also have a daughter whom I have to help. She says she needs a man that will help her and asks if I am going to help her. So I tell her that I want a girlfriend, not a puta.

Bro if you want a Gf in Colombia be prepared to deal with her kids expenses and maybe her family's as well. As HighO said, poor girls really need support, if you really love the girl 50k is not a reason to act like a cheap bastard. You wanted to play that game have to deal with it or forget about it, BFs are gone and they are on their own, You may know it, so free sex is out of the menu most of the time in this loving continent. At least this girl ask for her kids, some others ask for plastic surgery and shopping tours to the most expensive malls.

[Artisttyp]

You have to understand... The people in most latin countries are POOR. This is not the United States. The father doesn't normally support their children because they are POOR. To a certain extent, us gringos take advantage of this. Having a GF in latin society implies that you help them out financially. What you said was COLD! If you don't want the drama, get a puta as you put it.

I agree 100%. Just reading the story made me cringe.

* Everything is surreal. Most GFE's you meet in latin america have kids or need money. A few want to marry a nice guy and have kids but that usually translates into money anyway.

If you aren't willing to "pull caballo" as meatloaf would say then just pay by the hour. If you still want GFE then expect to pay more and budget accordingly.

Once you figure out your budget you will know when the *cut off point is for your date. Enjoy the memories.

I don't mean to sound obnoxious and of course there are exceptions. However if you stick to this philosophy you will enjoy your time in SA alot more.

At some point some of us become "companion mongers"...willing to pay for a girl just to hang around. I get it trust me but it's too depressing.

Have monger friends and just fuck pfp is my advice.

[Hioctane]

I don’t get this mentality. I am sitting her in Barranquilla. I am going back and forth texting this non-pro who I hit yesterday. She decides to wake up and send me a text asking if I could loan her US$50 because her daughter needs books for school. I told her no. Then she asks me not to put the pictures I took of her on the internet. I’m like why would I do that, they are private. So she says that she is going to leave the house to see if someone can loan her the money. I told her in that case I am going to leave Barranquilla since I won’t be able to see her.

Now this is the part where I always get tripped up. She said that she wants to be my girlfriend but this implies that she has a daughter who I will have to help her with financially. I tell her but your daughter has a father and I also have a daughter whom I have to help. She says she needs a man that will help her and asks if I am going to help her. So I tell her that I want a girlfriend, not a puta.

You have to understand... The people in most latin countries are POOR. This is not the United States. The father doesn't normally support their children because they are POOR. To a certain extent, us gringos take advantage of this. Having a GF in latin society implies that you help them out financially. What you said was COLD! If you don't want the drama, get a puta as you put it.

[Lowkey1]

I travel a lot for the purpose of mongering in latin countries but have not been to Columbia. I can not decide which city to go to, I am leaning towards Bogota but am open to suggestions or driving points to push me to another city. ANYHOW. I Stumbled across a site called TLC tours that charges 995 for this 4 day thing that has 300 plus women to meet about 50 guys every 6 months or so in Cali. Money is not that big of an issue here, but My question to you guys is this. P4P is obviously avail, but are decent girls that like or desire to be with gringos around? I do like to P4P but then during the day or night at a bar I would like to think I could go out and meet a decent girl and providing we hit it off I wouldn't be asked for money in order to spend the night with her. This tour claims to be decent girls looking for marriage, and since I am 28 and not bad looking I am considering attempting to start to look and if it happens it does, just not with a hooker. Anyhow. Is this tour BS and are the girls here that are seriously interested in guys from USA hard to find? OR is the use of this tour make life easy for meeting these girls? I went to the Philapeans and you could find both anywhere there. Girls that would accept money for what ever your heart desired down to girls that would love to meet a nice man for marriage. I hold a light to the Philiapeans and tend to think its the only country with both kinds of girls readily avail with no gray area. YOu want a hooker. Go to a strip club or free lancer bar or massage parlor. You want to meet a girl, just go out on the town and they are doing anything just to say Hi to you! Fill me in guys. I'm curions. Sorry for so much details in one post. But I have to know and I need the help!

[Hilltopper]

Would it be better to just giver her 100 mil COP after each time you hit it and keepin' it on that level? So much less complicated than dealin' with a Colombiana novia.

I don’t get this mentality. I am sitting her in Barranquilla. I am going back and forth texting this non-pro who I hit yesterday. She decides to wake up and send me a text asking if I could loan her US$50 because her daughter needs books for school. I told her no. Then she asks me not to put the pictures I took of her on the internet. I’m like why would I do that, they are private. So she says that she is going to leave the house to see if someone can loan her the money. I told her in that case I am going to leave Barranquilla since I won’t be able to see her.

Now this is the part where I always get tripped up. She said that she wants to be my girlfriend but this implies that she has a daughter who I will have to help her with financially. I tell her but your daughter has a father and I also have a daughter whom I have to help. She says she needs a man that will help her and asks if I am going to help her. So I tell her that I want a girlfriend, not a puta.

[Bango Cheito]

Here in Bogota, it is NOT the norm for a boyfriend to help out his girlfriend financially. That's a whole nother level of relationship. Generally the MUTUAL financial support doesn't kick in unless the two people in question are cohabitating. You got a real bad egg there.

I don’t get this mentality. I am sitting her in Barranquilla. I am going back and forth texting this non-pro who I hit yesterday. She decides to wake up and send me a text asking if I could loan her US$50 because her daughter needs books for school. I told her no. Then she asks me not to put the pictures I took of her on the internet. I’m like why would I do that, they are private. So she says that she is going to leave the house to see if someone can loan her the money. I told her in that case I am going to leave Barranquilla since I won’t be able to see her.

Now this is the part where I always get tripped up. She said that she wants to be my girlfriend but this implies that she has a daughter who I will have to help her with financially. I tell her but your daughter has a father and I also have a daughter whom I have to help. She says she needs a man that will help her and asks if I am going to help her. So I tell her that I want a girlfriend, not a puta.