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[Johny 99]

Though the spanish dialects are very different from Argentina to Medellin, Colombia, the basic Spanish phrases are pretty much the same.

For as good as you're going to get in spanish in 2 weeks, those phrases in The BA thread will be fine.

In Argentina, the use of 'Vos sos' (you are) is used primarily, in Colombia most often used is 'tu eres' (you are).

Though they each understand the other.

The rest is just fine :)

Have fun!

Thanks for the response! I have this silly image of my self flashing different index cards with pre filled out phrases in spanish on one side, and english on the other, at the girls to communicate.

[AddictedToWomen]

Colombian women are incapable of logic...

I think that the word "Colombian" is a tautology.

[Ricker]

False.

There are more than 20 million women in Colombia, and most of them are not prepagos or some other form of prostitute.

Matter of fact, plenty of chicas (normal) may take offense to just handing them money when they're leaving ... insinuating.

Of course the pros/semi pros will take as much as you're willing to give.

[Ricker]

You need to be careful about using the phrase "amistad" with Colombian women. "Amistad" is often interpreted as meaning you are looking for sex only. You need to say you are looking for a "relacion seria" or they will jump to all sorts of conclusions. Colombian women are incapable of logic and jump to impulsive conclusions all the time.

I have been to four other countries in Latin America, and "amistad" is interpreted normally in all of them. Only in Colombia does an innocent word like "amistad" result in sinister interpretations from the women. And I think it reveals something about Colombian culture.

After reading this, expect various Colombia apologists to deny this. They are wrong. Most of them don't actually speak Spanish. Most of them don't actually travel to Colombia to meet women, they just talk about it on the internet with other men.

It is very easy to meet, date and have sex with Colombian women that are not prostitutes. However, you have to push certain buttons. Always say you want a "relacion seria" even if it seems absurdly early to make such a comment.

Obviously, none of this matters in the case of prepagos and other types of Colombian prostitutes.

As the Client here says, if you're trying to schmooze a normal Colombiana, use the 'relacion seria' wording, especially when you're first talking to her.

If you say that you're just looking for 'amistades', it could very easily be understood as looking for lovers.

As you get to know someone better, and gain her confidence a bit, you can more easily say you're looking for an 'amistad' with her and you'll be OK.

You do have to be careful though if you don't want her to get the wrong idea.

PS. Though I don't really know what a 'Colombia apologist' is, I sure hope I'm not one of them. hahaha :)

[Ricker]

I'm going to Medellin next month for the first time and I don't speak spanish. I downloaded one of those "Learn Spanish in two weeks" types of audio series. I am obviously not going to master the language in such a short time, but I figure it can only help with basic communication.

Obviously, the series will not help with many of the types of phrases one will need when dealing with the girls. I found a thread on Argentina Private which focuses on such phrases. (Here: http://www.argentinaprivate.com/foru...ead.php?t=1809 )

It is my understanding, that different spanish speaking countries can have different dialects to one degree or another. My basic question is: Are the spanish phrases from Argentina listed in the link above applicable to Columbia?

Though the spanish dialects are very different from Argentina to Medellin, Colombia, the basic Spanish phrases are pretty much the same.

For as good as you're going to get in spanish in 2 weeks, those phrases in The BA thread will be fine.

In Argentina, the use of 'Vos sos' (you are) is used primarily, in Colombia most often used is 'tu eres' (you are).

Though they each understand the other.

The rest is just fine :)

Have fun!

[Client 9]

They all want a little something in their purse or pocket as they leave.

False.

There are more than 20 million women in Colombia, and most of them are not prepagos or some other form of prostitute.

[Jesi James]

Opinions, not to be mistaken as gospel. Some truth, some experience, but please don't paint the whole house the same color. Most this and most that? Vague generalizations expected to be treated as fact. I disagree.

Oh, I speak Spanish, have traveled to Colombia, probably 20 times and do not just talk about it on the internet.

They all want a little something in their purse or pocket as the leave. Help me with the movie. We have already determined your business. We are now negotiating your price. I love Colombia. Simple and direct. Bid and offer. Colombian women are not gringas, well most outside of Medellin.

Having fun in Cali. The opinions expressed here are mine.

JES

You need to be careful about using the phrase "amistad" with Colombian women. "Amistad" is often interpreted as meaning you are looking for sex only. You need to say you are looking for a "relacion seria" or they will jump to all sorts of conclusions. Colombian women are incapable of logic and jump to impulsive conclusions all the time.

I have been to four other countries in Latin America, and "amistad" is interpreted normally in all of them. Only in Colombia does an innocent word like "amistad" result in sinister interpretations from the women. And I think it reveals something about Colombian culture.

After reading this, expect various Colombia apologists to deny this. They are wrong. Most of them don't actually speak Spanish. Most of them don't actually travel to Colombia to meet women, they just talk about it on the internet with other men.

It is very easy to meet, date and have sex with Colombian women that are not prostitutes. However, you have to push certain buttons. Always say you want a "relacion seria" even if it seems absurdly early to make such a comment.

Obviously, none of this matters in the case of prepagos and other types of Colombian prostitutes.

[Johny 99]

I'm going to Medellin next month for the first time and I don't speak spanish. I downloaded one of those "Learn Spanish in two weeks" types of audio series. I am obviously not going to master the language in such a short time, but I figure it can only help with basic communication.

Obviously, the series will not help with many of the types of phrases one will need when dealing with the girls. I found a thread on Argentina Private which focuses on such phrases. (Here: http://www.argentinaprivate.com/foru...ead.php?t=1809 )

It is my understanding, that different spanish speaking countries can have different dialects to one degree or another. My basic question is: Are the spanish phrases from Argentina listed in the link above applicable to Columbia?

[Client 9]

It seems to them, when I start talking about friendship, they think I'm not serious about a relationship. However, I need female friends as sources of valuable info. In Argentina and Perú this was as important for the success of my travels as ULTRA was for The Allies.

You need to be careful about using the phrase "amistad" with Colombian women. "Amistad" is often interpreted as meaning you are looking for sex only. You need to say you are looking for a "relacion seria" or they will jump to all sorts of conclusions. Colombian women are incapable of logic and jump to impulsive conclusions all the time.

I have been to four other countries in Latin America, and "amistad" is interpreted normally in all of them. Only in Colombia does an innocent word like "amistad" result in sinister interpretations from the women. And I think it reveals something about Colombian culture.

After reading this, expect various Colombia apologists to deny this. They are wrong. Most of them don't actually speak Spanish. Most of them don't actually travel to Colombia to meet women, they just talk about it on the internet with other men.

It is very easy to meet, date and have sex with Colombian women that are not prostitutes. However, you have to push certain buttons. Always say you want a "relacion seria" even if it seems absurdly early to make such a comment.

Obviously, none of this matters in the case of prepagos and other types of Colombian prostitutes.

[Mer07]

I'm preparing to stay in Colombia 5 months starting this fall and I will visit the country every year for approx. 3-7 months every year. That is the plan.

I have experienced females from Argentina and Perú essentially, but I have also encountered females from Brazil and Colombia.

The difference between porteñas, girls from Buenos Aires, and girls from Bogotá is striking. The colombian females are a little bit prettier, but much more open, as well are their sisters from Brazil. In the interior of Argentina the females are open as well, but the environment is boring. Peruvian girls and their sisters from Colombia are not always serious of course. Porteñas doesn't fell any need to look for a gringo for marriage. Buenos Aires is the capital of Latin America and equals NY/Paris/London. I'm a european farmer in their eyes!

Before getting to a country it is of great value to get to know some interesting girls.

Colombianas are so hot. It seems to them, when I start talking about friendship, they think I'm not serious about a relationship. However, I need female friends as sources of valueable info. In Argentina and Perú this was as important for the success of my travels as ULTRA was for The Allies.

To be cont.

[Daves Pison]

Police in Medellin are nice to gringos! Yes they're. But if they catched you with drugs is a different story my friend. This is true as it is. I don't want to give a bad advises but if you are in Medellin don't get in this predicament.

Enjoy paisas all the way.

Tom,

Please stop providing accurate info.

Your realism upsets the Colombia apologists.

[Client 9]

Jajajajaja! A country with a dysfunctional legal system cannot take anything very seriously. Very few Colombians have any respect for any law. Why do you suppose that is?

Were your attackers taken care of by the law or by vigilantes? A country of vigilantism has no claim to any moral high ground.

So far in Colombia, I have discovered that I have the right to be fucked in the ass by several major corporations including Bancolombia, Coomeva, and Avianca without recourse. Where is this constitution?

Tom,

Please stop providing accurate info.

Your realism upsets the Colombia apologists.

[Relapse1952]

Has anyone heard of a case by the name of Noche New York anywhere in Colombia.

Thanks,

Relapse

[Bango Cheito]

Tom, I think you've got your forums mixed up a little, neh? :P

Anyways, your experiences here in Colombia are valid, but so are mine. And I'm having the time of my life here, haven't been fucked in the ass once (although it has been proposed on a couple occasions). I also learned from problems people like you and others have had and REFUSE to get a Colombian bank account, this much is true.

But the fact is I have had many negative experiences in the US and Canada, mostly with banks, tax authorities and immigration. I immigrated legally to the US as I did here and ALWAYS pay and file my taxes and still had loads of problems. I guess maybe the US is a lot easier on people who are not immigrants perhaps.

But as far as civil liberties, that does not include the right to not be fucked in the ass. That's a whole separate issue. Colombia is a lot more dangerous and it's a lot easier to lose money here in many ways, but it's also a lot easier to not wind up in jail here. Just compare the incarceration rates of the two countries.

And the bottom line, la dosis personal is legal, remains legal. Smoking in public is not a good idea for many reasons, but that's also a separate issue.

[Rock Harders]

Mongers,

I have found the Colombian police in Medellin to be very respectful towards me, and foreigners in general, much more so than police in other Latin American countries I have visited. This past Sunday, en route to Santa Fe de Antioquia, but still on the autopista in the city of Medellin, I was pulled over in my taxi by two police officers on a motorcycle. The had their guns drawn before they got off their motorcycles and pointed them at us and patted us down, and then, realizing we were gringos, asked if we were Colombians, realized they had the wrong people, got on their motorcycles and drove away just as fast as they pulled us over. My buddy in the back seat, a Colombia first-timer with no Spanish ability, almost crapped his pants.

Suerte,

Rock Harders