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[Menteng]

You will get mixed reviews with this one. People here always state how the non pro girls are eager to go bareback but on the contrary ALMOST ALL of my non-pros INSIST on condoms. These are educated University girls for the most part and a Manacurist who I met in the mall who I banged after our 3rd date. With my novia, never a condom obviously but she gets a monthly protection shot.

Funny enough I have experiences similar to Mr.Enternational's. The non-pro's I fuck, from antropologist to waitress, never insist on the use of a condom. While most of the WG's do (so I don't fuck them).

[Tjmee]

Out of all the cities in Colombia, which one has the most hottest girls/local/club scene?

[Menteng]

Even my 18yo gf who has very traditional/strict parents. I am the second guy that she has ever been with and the first time that we were together we went a little while without protection. Was she not afraid of getting pregnant? Then there is a chick in Barranquilla who I used to fool around with. She had a boyfriend and still. The list goes on. And I'm not talking about dumb ass or ghetto chicks. I'm talking about educated, well off ones. What is the deal with this?

Well maybe they just want to get pregnant and knowing that you are a nice and responsible man, they'll secure a one-way ticket to your country.

[Ricker]

Reminds me of a chick who I had been talking to online for about two years.

cartagena : me traes algo de alla…productos de victoria secrete…y colonias…y cremas
cartagena : y jeugos de video juegos para mi hijo bueno con su consola de jeugos

Yep amigo, typical shark that I AVOID like the plague.

[Tom 33]

Reminds me of a chick who I had been talking to online for about two years. She worked at a kiosk at the mall making like 40000 pesos/day or less.

Working there she would have been lucky to make 15K per day. More likely she made 10.

[Rock Harders]

Mongers, Mr. Enternational, etal,

Barebacking non-pros is pretty much the standard everywhere I have been in South America. More often than not, the chicas will mention something about a condom, and I will just carry on as if she never said anything, and 99. 9% of the time the chicas don't really care and crave the bareback sex about as much as I do. If the chica is a little worried about it, I just say I get blood tests every month, I am circumcised (which I explain lessens the chance of me contracting anything), and that I will absolutely not cum inside her which means she will not get pregnant. With non-pros, that little pep talk is almost never necessary. Almost all the Colombia non-pros I have been with (maybe 10) have never even thought about using a condom.

With pros, I also rarely use condoms, and I do usually need to give that little pep talk to "talk them out of" insisting on the condom. Sometimes a combination of offering more money combined with the pep talk will do the trick. Naturally, there are always some pros that will absoutely not fuck me bareback the first time we hook up. When I choose a pro, I usually evaluate what are the chances she will do me bareback when making my decision. The criteria usually consists of an in-depth interview that concentrates on finding out if she has kids and/or a serious boyfriend. If she has kids and a husband or serious boyfriend, the chances she will do me bareback are almost zero. As such, as a rule, I almost never fuck pros that have kids and husbands/serious boyfriends.

This has been my experience in Colombia, Brasil, Paraguay, Bolivia and Argentina (where I live), although in Argentina pros with kids will generally still do me bareback. Although alot of people talk about condoms, the fact of the matter is that there are alot more mongers doing pros and non pros bareback than most people think. I personally know alot of big-time Buenos Aires-based mongers who are almost exclusively bareback mongers.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

[MiamiHeatLuver]

I need some of the Colombia experts to chime in on this one. I've been there plenty of times, but I am not as well versed in the culture as some of the other guys on the board, so I'd like to know other peoples' take.

I just got back from Colombia today. While I was on the plane I thought about something. (About to contradict myself with this next statement I don't make it a habit of barebacking, but I have never been with a Colombian non-pro who has asked me to use a condom. Most women around the world insist on protection, but the Colombianas that I know don't even bat an eyelash when my bare meat goes towards them.

Even my 18yo gf who has very traditional/strict parents. I am the second guy that she has ever been with and the first time that we were together we went a little while without protection. Was she not afraid of getting pregnant? Then there is a chick in Barranquilla who I used to fool around with. She had a boyfriend and still. The list goes on. And I'm not talking about dumb ass or ghetto chicks. I'm talking about educated, well off ones. What is the deal with this?

You will get mixed reviews with this one. People here always state how the non pro girls are eager to go bareback but on the contrary ALMOST ALL of my non-pros INSIST on condoms. These are educated University girls for the most part and a Manacurist who I met in the mall who I banged after our 3rd date. With my novia, never a condom obviously but she gets a monthly protection shot.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Reminds me of a chick who I had been talking to online for about two years. She worked at a kiosk at the mall making like 40000 pesos/day or less. I go to Colombia all of the time but I have never been to Cartagena to see her. A couple of months ago I mentioned to her that I would be going to Colombia in a couple of days. Out of nowhere she gives me a list of things to bring. Even if I was fool enough to buy all of this stuff where the f did she think I was going to put it?

cartagena : me traes algo de alla…productos de victoria secrete…y colonias…y cremas
cartagena : y jeugos de video juegos para mi hijo bueno con su consola de jeugos
mrenternational: que consola?
cartagena : bueno me traes otra cosa…ropa interior…y demas cosas…accesorios para mi cuerpo y cabello
mrenternational : no me gusta una mujer con ropa interior!
cartagena : amor consola de juegos…bueno no me des ropa interior entonces otra cosa no se un anillo lindo
mrenternational : jaja. play station cuesta 1000000 pesos
cartagena : bueno entonces video juegos de play 2
cartagena : por ejemplo fifa 2008 no me traigas el play solo traeme los jeugos de play 2 para mi hijo losqeu quieras
cartagena : futboll, power ranger, carros, peleas esos juegos le gustan a los niños son para play 2
cartagena : hola amor dime como me enterare de tu llegada…sabes mi hijo me dijo unos juegos que le gustan asi tu sabras cual comprar mas sin embargo te escribo los nombres
cartagena : PRO EVOLUTION 2008 NARUTO 3 GRAND THEFT AUTO THE TRILOGY PRINCE OF PERSIA THE TWO THONES
cartagena : siempre llegas mañana
mrenternational : a bogota si
cartagena : si, bueno me imagino que a cartagena el fin de semana
mrenternational : no me voy a cartagena. solo bogota
cartagena : BUENO ENTONCES NO VENGAS CIAO YA ME IMAGINO QUE TE VERAS CON TU NOVIA BOGOTANA

LOL, thats just precious save this one! ha ha ha Shes a real pro, do you see how detailed she gets about what products she wants right down to the exact labels and even 2008 PS2 games? Shes not happy with any old game she want the fifa 2008... Ask her how she knows about Victorias Secret Products when it doesnt exist in Colombia. Ask what other gringo brought her VS products and see how she answers that one.. lol

[John Gault]

I need some of the Colombia experts to chime in on this one. I've been there plenty of times, but I am not as well versed in the culture as some of the other guys on the board, so I'd like to know other peoples' take.

I just got back from Colombia today. While I was on the plane I thought about something. (About to contradict myself with this next statement I don't make it a habit of barebacking, but I have never been with a Colombian non-pro who has asked me to use a condom. Most women around the world insist on protection, but the Colombianas that I know don't even bat an eyelash when my bare meat goes towards them.

Even my 18yo gf who has very traditional/strict parents. I am the second guy that she has ever been with and the first time that we were together we went a little while without protection. Was she not afraid of getting pregnant? Then there is a chick in Barranquilla who I used to fool around with. She had a boyfriend and still. The list goes on. And I'm not talking about dumb ass or ghetto chicks. I'm talking about educated, well off ones. What is the deal with this?

They don't like rubbers either so they have their own protection. Either pills or a needle once a month. Or worst case they want you to knock them up and hope to hook you.

[Mr Enternational]

I need some of the Colombia experts to chime in on this one. I've been there plenty of times, but I am not as well versed in the culture as some of the other guys on the board, so I'd like to know other peoples' take.

I just got back from Colombia today. While I was on the plane I thought about something. (About to contradict myself with this next statement I don't make it a habit of barebacking, but I have never been with a Colombian non-pro who has asked me to use a condom. Most women around the world insist on protection, but the Colombianas that I know don't even bat an eyelash when my bare meat goes towards them.

Even my 18yo gf who has very traditional/strict parents. I am the second guy that she has ever been with and the first time that we were together we went a little while without protection. Was she not afraid of getting pregnant? Then there is a chick in Barranquilla who I used to fool around with. She had a boyfriend and still. The list goes on. And I'm not talking about dumb ass or ghetto chicks. I'm talking about educated, well off ones. What is the deal with this?

[Mr Enternational]

I remember when I was new to the Colombia scene. Met this chica on Cupidos, beautiful, from Barranquilla.

Me and the sexy Costena were walking together, hand in hand, I was happy. Her mother had a shopping cart, she was looking an stuff and filling up the cart. She had radios, a microwave oven, clothing, food, all kinds of stuff. I thought nothing of it. Like a trip to Walmart on payday.

Yes, they are sharks in Colombia. Beware.

Reminds me of a chick who I had been talking to online for about two years. She worked at a kiosk at the mall making like 40000 pesos/day or less. I go to Colombia all of the time but I have never been to Cartagena to see her. A couple of months ago I mentioned to her that I would be going to Colombia in a couple of days. Out of nowhere she gives me a list of things to bring. Even if I was fool enough to buy all of this stuff where the f did she think I was going to put it?

cartagena : me traes algo de alla…productos de victoria secrete…y colonias…y cremas
cartagena : y jeugos de video juegos para mi hijo bueno con su consola de jeugos
mrenternational: que consola?
cartagena : bueno me traes otra cosa…ropa interior…y demas cosas…accesorios para mi cuerpo y cabello
mrenternational : no me gusta una mujer con ropa interior!
cartagena : amor consola de juegos…bueno no me des ropa interior entonces otra cosa no se un anillo lindo
mrenternational : jaja. play station cuesta 1000000 pesos
cartagena : bueno entonces video juegos de play 2
cartagena : por ejemplo fifa 2008 no me traigas el play solo traeme los jeugos de play 2 para mi hijo losqeu quieras
cartagena : futboll, power ranger, carros, peleas esos juegos le gustan a los niños son para play 2
cartagena : hola amor dime como me enterare de tu llegada…sabes mi hijo me dijo unos juegos que le gustan asi tu sabras cual comprar mas sin embargo te escribo los nombres
cartagena : PRO EVOLUTION 2008 NARUTO 3 GRAND THEFT AUTO THE TRILOGY PRINCE OF PERSIA THE TWO THONES
cartagena : siempre llegas mañana
mrenternational : a bogota si
cartagena : si, bueno me imagino que a cartagena el fin de semana
mrenternational : no me voy a cartagena. solo bogota
cartagena : BUENO ENTONCES NO VENGAS CIAO YA ME IMAGINO QUE TE VERAS CON TU NOVIA BOGOTANA

[Member #3435]

I recently returned from two weeks in Colombia and want to pass on this info since I think most travelers don't know about it. If you fly Avianca to Colombia, they offer a Colombia Air Pass for domestic flights that is not available for purchase inside Colombia. There are a few "catches" but if you want to fly around inside the country and plan well it is a very good deal and will save a boat load of money.

Here's how it works: They sell the pass as 3, 4, or 5 flight packages. They call the individual legs or flights cupons. Three cupons will cost US$220 + $16 tax. If you fly to anywhere on the Caribbean coast those cupons cost an additional $60. I flew from Bogota to Pereira, bused it to Armenia, then flew from Armenia to Barranquilla and lastly Barranquilla to Bogota. My air pass cost US$260 + $16 tax.

Here's the catches:

1) I flew to Bogota from Ft Lauderdale. For some reason they couldn't sell me the pass at the ticket counter in FLL airport. I had to go to a hole in the wall strip mall mini-office of Avianca in Plantation to buy it. Fortunately, I knew this ahead of time and arrived in time (before they closed at 12:30pm on Saturday) to buy it. I don't know if the ticket counter in Miami can sell it but I would call to verify for your local. Don't assume it's available without checking. Also, even the Avianca agents I talked to on the phone didn't know a lot about it. It may take 2 or 3 calls to get good info.

2) You must reserve the flights at the time of purchase. You cannot carry the pass to Colombia and decide when and where to fly later. You can change your itinerary but there is a $30 charge.

3) For me this was a biggie. I travel heavy. I take the kitchen sink plus extra plumbing, just in case. There is a 20 kilo total baggage limit for any flight purchased with the air pass. Any amount over 20 kgs gets charged at a prorated rate. I carried approximately 50 kgs in two bags. My memory is a little foggy here but first flight I paid COP70, 000, 2nd flight COP 120, 000, third flight COP60, 000 for extra baggage.

Yeah that part sucked but I had such a great time and saw and did so much that I really didn't care. It was still a bargain.

Schwmm

[Shamester]

Anyone have a suggestion for a reasonably priced English speaking Bogota city tour operator? Please provide web site information.

Thank you.

[Menteng]

After reading the contributions by others in this thread and in the new thread: Tips for dating Colombianas, I must conclude that in those cases, you can replace the words "Colombian" and "chica" by "Indonesian" and "cewek". How striking!

I do not insist though, that girls/women in both countries are all like that. However, I think that if you meet one through dating sites/internet or P4P activities, chances are that they will be.

In my opinion, the best way to start a relationship is to just let it happen. It will not be easy, because being a foreigner (gringo/bulai) means:money, and the first ones that will be attracted, will be the gold-diggers.

So, brother RR, I really can not give THE answer. I have been married to an Indonesian woman and that lasted 6 months. The separation however had nothing to do with either of the quoted situations, but jealousy. The culture difference might have been too big. Now, after more than twenty years, I'm still married to a Colombian woman. Maybe I met the wrong Indonesian one and met the right Colombian one.

[Sailor2006]

Ricker good story, and something we all need to beaware of!!! i was trying to be funny to get my point across, hopefully nobody took me for real, and thought i was trying to insult the guy.

another thought sometimes, these gals are often pushed into stupid plays, by family IE " the mommy" if she thinks she can get away with having the wallet pay then "do it". I bet the chica would have rather gone out dancing with you and drank a bottle on the local scene then drag you to exito for family shopping.

Bottom line if you feel your being taken advantage of, run away!!!!