General Info

[BigButtDetecto]

The cheapest way to get to MDE is to fly on vivaaerobus from Tijuana to Cancun and then buy a separate ticket from Cancun to Medellin on Wingo. You can get all the way from Tijuana to Medellin for less than $300 usd one way.

If I remember correctly viva usually has a direct flight that leaves Tijuana around 11 pm and gets you to CUN around 6 am and then the wingo flight leaves CUN around 9 am and you arrive at MDE around 12 noon.

The viva flight from TIJ to CUN should cost about $80-100 usd and the Wingo flight from CUN to MDE is like $150-175 usd. Of course buying your tickets atleast a week in advance and only taking a personal item of 10 kilos or less (a backpack).

Flying from LA or SD would cost significantly more.

Although I live in San Diego and it may be cheaper to fly through Mexico, I prefer to go through another country from sandiego or Lax; I had problems with the Mexican immigration sevices in the past that delayed my international flights.

I like a 2 days sto over in Panama city for instance.

[Gabacho]

I am going to look at airfare again though. I still think the cost and timing of flying to MDE is better from Mexico than San Diego or LA.

The cheapest way to get to MDE is to fly on vivaaerobus from Tijuana to Cancun and then buy a separate ticket from Cancun to Medellin on Wingo. You can get all the way from Tijuana to Medellin for less than $300 usd one way.

If I remember correctly viva usually has a direct flight that leaves Tijuana around 11 pm and gets you to CUN around 6 am and then the wingo flight leaves CUN around 9 am and you arrive at MDE around 12 noon.

The viva flight from TIJ to CUN should cost about $80-100 usd and the Wingo flight from CUN to MDE is like $150-175 usd. Of course buying your tickets atleast a week in advance and only taking a personal item of 10 kilos or less (a backpack).

Flying from LA or SD would cost significantly more.

[Dcrist0527]

Just a heads up for those who go to Mxico: the 180 days is no longer automatic and it's at the discretion of the immigration officer.

It's Mexico. It's always at the officer's discretion. LOL This has been an issue for years now. Mexican immigration officers took advantage of the covid years. During those years, they were able to get away with their scam because technically, tourism was not a legal reason to enter. However, that's no longer the case and if I was traveling into Mexico for a 5-day stay, I'd tell the immigration officer pushing the 180 day fee to go get his supervisor. The laws are no longer on their side to force us to spend the $35.

This was such a hot topic on the Tijuana boards for years. Only once did I buy the 180 day FMM, and that was by choice. I was going there so frequently, it was nice to have the FMM so I could just walk in the Mexican line.

I am going to look at airfare again though. I still think the cost and timing of flying to MDE is better from Mexico than San Diego or LA.

[Dcrist0527]

There's a kiosk inside the Tijuana airport (or atleast there used to be) on the right had side (when you walk in from the street) where you can get the FMM, and yes I believe it costs about $30 or $35 usd for the 180 day one. The 7 day one you get for free at the border will not work for boarding an international flight out of Mexico.

Now if you were just flying domestically within Mexico like Tijuana to CDMX or Tijuana to Cancun, etc. I've never ever been asked for the FMM or even my passport I've been able to fly all over Mexico with just a California ID card. But when you go to board the flight that leaves Mexico and lands in BOG or MDE in my experience they will deny you boarding unless you have a valid FMM. This may have changed though as I know in Cancun they no longer issue them they just write 180 on the stamp in the passport which acts as the FMM but I'm not sure if that's now at every airport or just at cancun.

Also one time I was denied boarding on a wingo flight from cancun to Bogota because my FMM had a car stamp instead of an airplane stamp (means it was issued at a land port of entry not an international airport). The wingo lady told me she couldn't accept it because of the car stamp and that I had to go to the INM office and get another stamp on the back side then she could accept it.

So literally like 20 mins before boarding I had to run through the cancun T2 airport all the way back thru the security checkpoint to the INM office there behind that guacamole restaurant where the bathrooms and ATMs are and they gave me the stamp on the back of the FMM card which is an exit stamp then I had to go back through security and back to the gate and I literally ran there all out of breath but I made it and the lady then accepted my FMM and boarding had already started so I just walked onto the plane at the at point.

I would advise you to pay the $35 and buy the FMM at the Tijuana airport or at the border crossing and hold onto it along with the separate receipt showing you paid for it. And when you get to the final airport where you will be boarding your flight to Colombia go up to the counter where you check your luggage and ask them if you need the exit stamp on the back or not (and go get that if you need it) then proceed through security and to your gate.

And if you didn't need the FMM at all I guess you're out $35 bucks but that's alot better than missing your flight if you did need it.

Actually you know what, now that I think about it, this last time I came through in August of last year, I had a brand new passport as I had just renewed in July and my FMM stamp was in the old passport from the last time I came back and I was just waived into Mexico like how you mentioned. And when I boarded in cancun on a flight to Medellin I was not asked for the FMM and neither did they ask about my Mexico entry stamp which I didn't have in the new passport (it was literally blank) but I did have the old passport with the 2 holes punched in it with a valid FMM stamp from cancun still within the 180 days in case if I needed to show it but they never asked me for it. They just let me board the flight with the blank passport. So you may not need it. I'd still rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it though, so your move.

Again, I appreciate all of the information. I decided to go to Tijuana to make my upcoming trip a 2-city party. I'll plan on getting the FMM in Tijuana. I appreciate you sharing your experience.

[Huacho]

in Cancun they no longer issue them they just write 180 on the stamp in the passport

Just a heads up for those who go to México: the 180 days is no longer automatic and it's at the discretion of the immigration officer.

[Gabacho]

So those sneaky bastards at Davivienda are indeed charging an undisclosed $15 k mil fee but the good news is Schwab told me they can see the fee and it will be refunded like any other fee.

Can withdraw $1 milland vs only about $600 k from Bancolombia. The fee for the latter is a ridiculous $27 mil almost. I don't even understand how Schwab affords to reimburse all the fees but I guess they figure they make more in managing your investments.

What gets me is that they are not disclosing it on the ATM screen and asking us to accept or decline it like every other bank does. Also if you press yes to get a receipt on that printed receipt it shows "commission $0.00" which is an outright lie.

What if they were to decide to just raise the fee to say $50 mil COP out of the blue one day, like how would we even know until after we complete a withdrawal and then look at our accounts to see how much we were charged.

Also the withdrawal limit is $2 Million COP making the 15 mil fee like 0. 75% of the total withdrawal amount which is still the lowest fee of all the banks (except for maybe pinchicha but I don't know where that bank is) in Colombia.

[Gabacho]

Appreciate the info. Long story short, I might not have an FMM. I'll be entering Tijuana as a pedestrian and flying out of TIJ. Half of the time I walk across, they don't issue an FMM and just wave me through. But, I've never flown out of Tijuana before. So I'll just mention that to the migration official and hope it doesn't cost me $35. LOL.

There's a kiosk inside the Tijuana airport (or atleast there used to be) on the right had side (when you walk in from the street) where you can get the FMM, and yes I believe it costs about $30 or $35 usd for the 180 day one. The 7 day one you get for free at the border will not work for boarding an international flight out of Mexico.

Now if you were just flying domestically within Mexico like Tijuana to CDMX or Tijuana to Cancun, etc. I've never ever been asked for the FMM or even my passport I've been able to fly all over Mexico with just a California ID card. But when you go to board the flight that leaves Mexico and lands in BOG or MDE in my experience they will deny you boarding unless you have a valid FMM. This may have changed though as I know in Cancun they no longer issue them they just write 180 on the stamp in the passport which acts as the FMM but I'm not sure if that's now at every airport or just at cancun.

Also one time I was denied boarding on a wingo flight from cancun to Bogota because my FMM had a car stamp instead of an airplane stamp (means it was issued at a land port of entry not an international airport). The wingo lady told me she couldn't accept it because of the car stamp and that I had to go to the INM office and get another stamp on the back side then she could accept it.

So literally like 20 mins before boarding I had to run through the cancun T2 airport all the way back thru the security checkpoint to the INM office there behind that guacamole restaurant where the bathrooms and ATMs are and they gave me the stamp on the back of the FMM card which is an exit stamp then I had to go back through security and back to the gate and I literally ran there all out of breath but I made it and the lady then accepted my FMM and boarding had already started so I just walked onto the plane at the at point.

I would advise you to pay the $35 and buy the FMM at the Tijuana airport or at the border crossing and hold onto it along with the separate receipt showing you paid for it. And when you get to the final airport where you will be boarding your flight to Colombia go up to the counter where you check your luggage and ask them if you need the exit stamp on the back or not (and go get that if you need it) then proceed through security and to your gate.

And if you didn't need the FMM at all I guess you're out $35 bucks but that's alot better than missing your flight if you did need it.

Actually you know what, now that I think about it, this last time I came through in August of last year, I had a brand new passport as I had just renewed in July and my FMM stamp was in the old passport from the last time I came back and I was just waived into Mexico like how you mentioned. And when I boarded in cancun on a flight to Medellin I was not asked for the FMM and neither did they ask about my Mexico entry stamp which I didn't have in the new passport (it was literally blank) but I did have the old passport with the 2 holes punched in it with a valid FMM stamp from cancun still within the 180 days in case if I needed to show it but they never asked me for it. They just let me board the flight with the blank passport. So you may not need it. I'd still rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it though, so your move.

[SlowBlow]

So those sneaky bastards at Davivienda are indeed charging an undisclosed $15 k mil fee but the good news is Schwab told me they can see the fee and it will be refunded like any other fee.

Can withdraw $1 millóand vs only about $600 k from Bancolombia. The fee for the latter is a ridiculous $27 mil almost. I don't even understand how Schwab affords to reimburse all the fees but I guess they figure they make more in managing your investments.

[Dcrist0527]

I always fly in from Mexico as it's way cheaper that way. You just have to have your passport and check mig and give your valid FMM card to the airline people at the gate (you'll get a new one for 180 days for free when you return). I think if you're going through Cancun they don't do the FMM there anymore so you don't even have to worry about it.

Appreciate the info. Long story short, I might not have an FMM. I'll be entering Tijuana as a pedestrian and flying out of TIJ. Half of the time I walk across, they don't issue an FMM and just wave me through. But, I've never flown out of Tijuana before. So I'll just mention that to the migration official and hope it doesn't cost me $35. LOL.

[Gabacho]

Gentlemen, I'm planning on flying into Colombia from Mexico. My passport is from the US. Other than Check Mig, are there any other requirements that we don't need when flying in from the US?

Thanks in advance.

I always fly in from Mexico as it's way cheaper that way. You just have to have your passport and check mig and give your valid FMM card to the airline people at the gate (you'll get a new one for 180 days for free when you return). I think if you're going through Cancun they don't do the FMM there anymore so you don't even have to worry about it.

[Dcrist0527]

Gentlemen, I'm planning on flying into Colombia from Mexico. My passport is from the US. Other than Check Mig, are there any other requirements that we don't need when flying in from the US?

Thanks in advance.

[Bango Cheito]

I remember bsngo cheto mentioned that he uses Servibanca and it also has a 2 million COP withdrawal limit. Not sure what the fee is though.

How long is this problem expected to last?

Fee is 22500.

[MongerHunger]

I think that is the price of so many mongers in Medellin. If a woman is seen with a gringo in Medellin, she looks like a hooker.

Spinner types are tough to find in Cali. If you like black women or women with curves, it is great. I think Bogota is best. Barranquilla would be second for me. If you want to dive deeper, I would look at the cities few go to in the coffee triangle: Armenia, Manizales, and Pereira. My gal just got back from visiting a GF of hers in Pereira, and she had a good time seeing the sites. There was more to do there than I imagined.

For as often as I am in Cartagena, I rarely see women who are head turners. It happens just not like in Medellin. The places where I have seen them is North of Bogota. When I have left Bogota, it was first through Chia and then Zipaquira where the salt castle is. There are lots of tourists there so there might be a stigma to meeting the women there. Ubate is the first town where you feel like you have left Bogota and they have arepas to die for there.

It is the cities further down the road: Susa, Simijaca, Chiquinquira, and Villa De Leyva that I was like holy fuck. The town squares are literally filled with beauty after beauty. Granted, the women often look similar: their skin is naturally tanned like so many Caucasian women strive to be, high cheek bones, thinner posteriors than the Paisas, and trim waists. Outside of a few in Villa De Leyva, you will not see tourists.

When in Barranquilla, I stayed at a hotel and in the lobby saw women glammed up and dressed to the nines meeting their dates for dinner. Maybe it was just dumb luck, I saw at least half a dozen stunners.

In the other cities I mentioned, the women were less sophisticated and more pure. They would be wearing cut off t-shirts showing rock hard abs and tight jeans with that special wiggle. The churches seemed to dominate the social scenes so I would guess volunteering or showing up at their functions, services, and festivals would be the way to meet the ladies there. Hope that helps.

I want to discover the areas north of Bogota. A city called Tunja comes to mind. A lot of indigenous people up there in the mountains with a cooler climate.

[Elvis 2008]

Yet the only girls that I match with on dating sites are working girls and I joined salsa clubs, roller skating clubs and went to language exchanges yet it seems like in Medellin many (not all) local normal non working girls look down on dating foreigner guys, but when I first went to Medellin in 2017, so many local girls wanted to know who I was, where I was coming from and had so many questions about why I am in Colombia.

I think that is the price of so many mongers in Medellin. If a woman is seen with a gringo in Medellin, she looks like a hooker.

Where in Colombia can I go where I can meet a normal girl and have a relationship with her. My friend says Santa Marta or Cali would be where I can get the attention I got in medellin in 2017. What do you guys think?

Spinner types are tough to find in Cali. If you like black women or women with curves, it is great. I think Bogota is best. Barranquilla would be second for me. If you want to dive deeper, I would look at the cities few go to in the coffee triangle: Armenia, Manizales, and Pereira. My gal just got back from visiting a GF of hers in Pereira, and she had a good time seeing the sites. There was more to do there than I imagined.

For as often as I am in Cartagena, I rarely see women who are head turners. It happens just not like in Medellin. The places where I have seen them is North of Bogota. When I have left Bogota, it was first through Chia and then Zipaquira where the salt castle is. There are lots of tourists there so there might be a stigma to meeting the women there. Ubate is the first town where you feel like you have left Bogota and they have arepas to die for there.

It is the cities further down the road: Susa, Simijaca, Chiquinquira, and Villa De Leyva that I was like holy fuck. The town squares are literally filled with beauty after beauty. Granted, the women often look similar: their skin is naturally tanned like so many Caucasian women strive to be, high cheek bones, thinner posteriors than the Paisas, and trim waists. Outside of a few in Villa De Leyva, you will not see tourists.

When in Barranquilla, I stayed at a hotel and in the lobby saw women glammed up and dressed to the nines meeting their dates for dinner. Maybe it was just dumb luck, I saw at least half a dozen stunners.

In the other cities I mentioned, the women were less sophisticated and more pure. They would be wearing cut off t-shirts showing rock hard abs and tight jeans with that special wiggle. The churches seemed to dominate the social scenes so I would guess volunteering or showing up at their functions, services, and festivals would be the way to meet the ladies there. Hope that helps.

[Mr Enternational]

I had an interview with a passport bro about the current batch of guys who are going to Colombia.

https://youtu.be/XKRfTFY39-0?si=zHMKj1cAclEGDuiT

But your last question is kind of misleading for the subject matter. Everyone knows that the people are traveling to fuck with hookers. When someone is traveling to these places having learned the language, not hanging out on "the strip," and looking for a relationship with a person who is not a hooker then is the time to ask about what you can find (eg. Submissiveness and the likes). Until then all that needs to be asked is how much is it going to cost for you to stay this long and do this, that, and the other. I can not believe guys are still fooling themselves into believing hookers are not hookers.

It was the same thing with that old Rio interview that was done years ago. These are hookers that go to the club to find men for money every night. These are not people that have been to school and are working a 9 to 5 job everyday.