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[Cachorro]

R,

Thanks for your take.

Pelo is pubic hair. So you might try cabello when complimenting her hair.

I always understood vello to be pubic hair.

I think pelo can be interchangeable, though I'm not certain.

There are numerous spelling and grammatical errors in the written Spanish. When I find some time, I'll scan through the guide and PM some corrections which could be edited into the report. Unless someone beats me to it.

But let's applaud, this guide of Routard's is great! 5 stars for completeness.

It's a master class for any newbies.

[Madd Love]

I was thinking of heading to colombia and never been there. But wanted a little info. What are the prices for the girls? ex all night? 1 hour etc? and also what would be a better place to go? Bogata Medellin? or somwhere else?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks fellas

[Fantasy]

Routard,

All kidding aside, Your Chica Management report is very well written, and i enjoyed it. I remember, as well, those afternoons in 1994-95 at the Seamans Club, getting to know Colombianas.

[Nortelx]

Not quite, Tom.

"pelo púbico" is pubic hair.

In Latin American slang "el vello publico" can also be used to refer to pubic hair. "pelo" is just hair.

[Tom 33]

R,

Thanks for your take.

Pelo is pubic hair. So you might try cabello when complimenting her hair.

[Ricker]

Wow! What a guide you wrote there amigo!

I just skimmed through it all, but it seems very good. I will print it out and read it on a long flight to South America. Matter of fact, I fly to Brazil on Wed. , I'll read it all then on the flight.

I started my mongering in Centro America and still remember about 10 years ago when I finally visited for the first time Colombia and fell in love with the country, the culture and the chicas.

When reading through your guide, it's easy to see that you are an individual with the skills, the empathy and the heart to see the beauty of the Colombiana, apart from her physical beauty.

Guys should read and learn from your guide. However, one thing I have learned in my travels; not every guy wants to or is able to get into the hearts of these Colombianitas like you seem to have done.

It's cool that you wrote this guide. I don't have the writing skills or patience to write like you.

Bien hecho amigo!

[Routard]

I did my first mongering steps with the Colombianas in the Saint Maarten brothels. Mongering became a real passion, I tried the to discover as much brothels throughout the world as I could. I have had great adventures everywhere, I tried the major sex destinations such as Dominican Republic or Thailand, I visited world’s best brothels such as the German FKK and the Brazilian Termas, but I never felt as much at home as with my Colombianitas in the Caribbean brothels. I became a real Colombiana addicted and did my pilgrimage in each of these islands where these Colombianas go, not only Saint Maarten but also Curacao, Aruba, or Trinidad. I went through all different steps with them, learning how to get GFE, discovering I could get and give real emotions. The first time I discovered I could give an orgasm to a hooker was with a Colombiana. I have developed true friendship with several of them, keeping in touch trough Internet over the years. And of course I felt in love. Each monger will have to face it at least once in his career, I had this experience with a Colombiana. This experience brings all kind of questions as dating a hooker is a serious issue. I ended my pilgrimage in Colombia and felt in love of…a country. Once in Colombia, everything turned out real different. I wasn’t a monger anymore, I dated regular girls. I hadn’t dated girls for 20 years, I was glad that I did this experience again with Colombianas. It made me raise a lot of questions such as why paying if you can get much better for free? Am I still a monger? Colombia had a major impact in my life, it changed a lot of things in my personal and professional life. But sharing daily life with a Latina was the ultimate step that remained. It’s a strange experience. After having hunted throughout the world, the object of my research is now waiting for me each evening in my own home.

ISG has been as diary book for me. I could find back all the different steps of my learning curb with Latinas. Sharing experience is what it’s about on ISG. It helped me a lot and I hope I have helped others too. I had written a couple of years ago a Latina Rookie guide. I believed it could be useful to others to write everything I would have liked to know when I discovered Latinas myself. Since then, I have learned much more that could also be useful to others. Thanks to ISG I could find back each different level I went through during all theses years and have divided my guide in five chapters, each representing a different level in the learning phase of Chica management.

Don’t take my academical style too serious. I don’t pretend to be an expert in this field, I simply try to help others with what I have learned myself during all those years. I’m looking forward your reactions.

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[Routard]

Latinas are sexy, sensual, passionate and sensitive. That's why the experience you will get with a chica depends largely of the chemistry you will be able to build up with her. The purpose of this lesson is how to get GFE in a short session with a chica. The level is beginner’s level, no previous experience required, no language skill required. Sorry for the more experienced among you, but hey, we have all started as newbies.

First step, very important before heading to a club is body hygiene: take a shower, shave yourself, cut your nails, don’t drink alcohol or eat garlic. Dress clean and casual depending the class of club but don’t dress like a typical tourist: no shorts, no colourful shirt, no banana belt, no baseball cap....For your safety don’t bring any valuable except cash money. Don’t act as a gringo, come with local money, not US dollar and don’t speak any English. If it’s the only language you speak…well then keep your lips tight.

You enter the club, and usually the less beautiful girls will come approach before you got the time to look around with a clear "Fucky fucky". Even if she is an ugly barrakuda, never be rude with a girl offering you actually sex! Decline politely but firmly: "No, gracias". She will usually insist, so answer you want to rest before: "Qiero descansarme". She will insist asking why: "Porque?". Answer because you are tired "Porque estoy cansado". Most difficult is usually not to find a girl but to get rid of the girls you don’t want. If she insists by you don't want girls? "No quires Chicas?" answer this time you want a girl, but a girl in particular: "Quiero una chica, pero une chica en particular". This is usually very effective. There is a sort of chica rule to respect the customer of another chica, they fear catfight. She hen might try to help you find her and ask for her name. Just give any name and if she replies that there is not a girl with such a name : « No hay Carolina (or whatever) aqui », then just answer that’ it’s her real name: « Es tu verdadero nombre ». Chicas usually know only the artist names of their competitors.

It might sound a lot of effort simply to get rid of a chica, but it’s important. Never go with the first you can find, take your time to chose the right one. It’s also important to stay cool with each girl, you are building up a reputation for the evening in this club. Never avoid her look or turn your head, simply smile each time. Have a small talk even with girls that don’t fancy you. Act as if you are a regular, don’t look around as if it’s your first time. Don’t hesitate also to discuss with other customers. You will not only act as a regular, they might be of great help to get useful info. Other Westerners are usually glad to meet fellow travellers and locals are usually honoured to discuss with foreigners. Don’t forget also the staff, they won’t forget you at your next visit, especially if you tip them.

Take a beer or better a Coke at the bar by asking: "Quiro una cerbeza" or "Quiero una Coca Cola". Ask the price "Cuanto es?". Please at least try to learn from a phrasebook to count till 100. You will need this each time. At worst you might do hand signs, acting as if the music is too loud.

Once drinking at the bar, you have plenty of time to have a look around. The success depends mostly on the choice of the girl, so take your time. Check the physical appearance, imagine the body. Take care, they have learnt to hide their imperfections behind clothing and make-up, you have to be careful especially with the typical nightclub lighting. Apart from physical appearance, you can learn a lot about her personality trough her attitude towards other chicas and guests. « La cara es el espejo del alma », the face is the mirror of the soul. Don’t look only for beauty, the physical appearance express usually a good part of her attitude. Try to find the one that seems to match most with yourself, imagine for example yourself both together looking in a mirror. You can learn also a lot by the way she looks at you. Your judgment will become better and better with time and experience.

Usually the most beautiful girls will not approach you, you will have to make the first move. It might sound intimidating, especially if you don’t speak Spanish. But you are the one who has to keep control over the process. There is a magical opening sentence: "Hola chica!". If you recognize her from the last time, you can even add you are happy to see her again: "Me alegro de verte".

If it is the first time start the usual introducting questions. What's you're name: "Como te llamas?" My name is..."Me llamo...", How old are you "Cuanto anos tienes?" I'm ... "Tengo..anos" Again you need to count till 100 (well I hope to less). Where do you come from :" De Donde eres?" She will usually reply she is from Colombia "Soy de Colombia" and you will answer "Soy de ...". If she asks anything you can return the question: « Y tu ? ».

You can always check if she speaks other languages but don’t count too much on it: Hablas, Inglès ? ». If she asks for your Spanish level answer: « Poco ».

She might soon get the wrong impression you understand everything. Jus tell her « No entiendo » or ask to speak slower « Despacio por favor ». If you can’t find a word point it out and say « Como se dise… ».

You can communicate easily by using only words and verbs, the way you say it might be enough to replace a full sentence. For example: « Bailar ? » to invite her for a dance. There are some useful electronic translators, sometimes even software you can download on your mobile phone, chicas love these electronic stuff, especially mobile phones. It allows also to share pics and learn a lot from each other without speaking. Other nice sharing is music you can listen together on a mpeg reader. I have a PDAphone with GPS with all those stuff inside, but also electronic maps to show where I live and ask her to point out where she comes from.

Invite her for a drink, it makes her understand she can stay with you. In some clubs she will receive a tip for making a customer drink, at least she will not feel as if she is loosing of her precious time. Do you want to drink anything? « Quieres beber algo ? » Please « Por favor ».

Try to compliment her. I know, it sounds bullshit to you, but believe me any woman in world, even SW love to hear compliments. If it looks difficult to you, just imagine that everytime you give a compliment, her pussy is getting wet. Do it before, during and even after sex, unless you are just looking for quick sex. I'm presuming here that you are looking for GFE sex.

Your eyes turn me crazy "Tus oyos me vuelven loco"
You are the most beautiful girl here "Eres la chica mas guapa de aqui" At least I hope this is true, if you find another girl more beautiful, then go to see her.
I like your smile "Me gusta tu sonrisa"
I like your perfume "Me gusta tu perfume"
You have a wonderful body "Tienes un cuerpo bonito"
What a nice hair "Que pelo!"

Even if you have eyes only for her ass, don’t tell it to her, it’s too early for that. It’s a hooker, but it’s not only a hooker. Go slowly, when you will touch her for the first time on a non sexual related part of her body, tell her how sweet is her skin: « Tienes un piel muy suave ».

Try to become more personal, asking if her parents are in Colombia "Tus padres viven en Columbia", do you have children "Tienes hijos", do you have brother and sisters "tienes hermanos y hermanas?" are you married "Eres Casada?" She or you willl answer you have one boy and one girl "Tengo un hijo y un hija", you are married "estoy casado"

Don't make it look like a police investigation at that point you need to be sensitive and show compassion. Say that it is not easy working here and having her children there "No es facil trabajar aqui y tus hijos en Colombia". Believe me, she will appreciate it. Being far from her family and children is much harder than her job herself. It might be even the trigger for her to become more personal as you seem to understand her, at least what matters most for her. She might start to speak freely about herself. Your job is to listen. No matter if you don't understand everything, just look interested to what she is telling you and look her straight in her eyes, while you touch her very lightly any part of her body but a sexual zone.

If she feels you are not understanding anything, just apologize saying you were watching how beautiful she is « Lo siento, estoy mirandote, eres tan bonita ! ». Most important is to keep eye contact, don’t watch around for the other chicas! Touch her slightly avoiding any sexual related part of her body. It’s the NLP method, maximize your effect on her by using simultaneously oral, visual and contact communication. Don’t forget, it’s more important to listen to her than to speak. You might need from time to time to tell anything, try to learn in Spanish a funny story about yourself, it helps to fill the blanks.

After a while, she will bring you back to business and ask you to go to the room. Let her make that move, she will need to make it as she can’t discuss all night long. It’s not always useful to negotiate price, rememember, you are supposed to be a regular and know the price list. If there is any doubt, ask "Cuanto es?". Once again, you need to be able to count in Spanish. And here my best advice: never discuss the price she will give, discuss instead ask for the best service.

DFK ? « Beso con lengua ? »
BBBJ ? »Chupar sin condom ? »
Anal « Por el culo » ?

I never ask specifically for anything special. It’s hard for her to promise anything before she knows you, it will be much more easy to get it on a natural way without asking for it. I just make her understand that I’m looking for GFE« Cuidado, soy muy carinoso » . If she uses any word like "fucky...fucky", just correct her and reply you want GFE:"No quiero fucky fucky, quiero hacer el amor". Even if she looks surprised, or finds it funny, she will consider it on another way. You made it clear you didn't come only for a quick fuck like the usual customers, you want more. It’s good also to check she will take her time. Again, I ask it on a natural way, I’m not negotiating for an exact time. « No tenemos prisa, por favor despacio conmigo ».

Once in the room pay the asked price (once again, I hoped you have learned to count Spanish in order to avoid any problem at that point) and undress. At that point, if you expect GFE, I hope you took care to take a shower and have good breath. Else, you might ask her before if you can ask her bathroom (it is not standard, but they never refused it to me). "Puedo tomar una ducha?" and add that it will be nicer for her "Es mas agradable para ti tambien". You make it clear once again that you are trying to make her having a good time also.

When she is undressed, you defenitly have to give again a compliment."Que maravillosa!" as it is the most intimate moment, « Caliente ! » ou « Que guapa ! ».

Start smooth preliminaries, make a difference with the other customers by being very tender. Treat her like a princess. These first moments are very important for the rest of the session. Keep eye contact, never force anything. Kissing is not standard, but if you do it right you will rarely have any refusal. Get sometimes closer to her mouth, and as soon as you feel she will allow it, start to kiss. If you feel she is reluctant, don’t force it and try it later, don’t let her bring to the point that she needs to warn she doesn’t kiss. She needs to feel comfortable first, notice your oral hygiene. Look at her and touch her as if she is very precious.

Never enter your finger in her pussy before you are sure it is wet. It might hurt her, a pussy is very sensitive. Again don’t bring her to the point that she needs to tell you fingering is not standard. No need to go deep, clitoris is in the outer part of the pussy, on the top between the outer and the inner lips. check your biological school lessons again. Be careful, the clitoris is even more sensitive than the rest of the pussy. Let her guide you, each girl reacts on a different way. Don’t insist if she is doesn’t like it, you will ruin the rest of your session if you hurt her.

Performing DATY is rarely refused. If she refuses, there might be a good reason for it so don’t insist! Check carefully for hygiene before diving deeply in the plate. I’m not a huge fan of DATY, some girls don’t like to kiss after. On the other hand, DATY can be for other girls the only way of getting an orgasm, as fingers have bones and nails and penis don’t allow direct skin contact due to condom. The good thing about DATY is that is allows to lubricate the pussy, so she won’t need to put any lub. I hate when a girl comes with her lub tube. Performing DATY requires experience. You might find out for example that it’s more effective to stimulate a pussy using your lips than your tongue. But again, each girl is different.

Try to avoid her to start directly with a BJ, as she might try to go direct for intercourse as soon as she notices an erection. What I always refuse is let her put a condom. If she doesn’t want to do BBBJ, I have to respect this, of course, but then I rather prefer not to have a BJ. No way I will allow a condom during preliminaries. I know some of you need a BJ to get an erection. Just ask « puedes chuparme ».

As a reminder, as soon as the condom is on, intercourse will follow soon and as a matter of fact also the end of the session. To delay it when she tries to put the condom, just say : « Tenemos tiempo ».

Once you're ready for intercourse, let her put you the condom. Again don't let her put any lub. If she is worried about it, lick her pussy or spit on your finger and gently make her pussy wet.

If she still tries to put the lub, just tell her:: « No necessitas, seré muy suave ». Yu can’t blame her for being cautious, some guys act as if they are porn stars. If you feel she is comfortable enough, you can start intercourse on the missionary position. This will allow you to control the most sensitive part, the beginning. start very smoothly, as she needs to get wet by herself. Cowgirl might be also a good start as it allows to control herself the start. Once you feel she is wet enough, you can try all your favorite positions. The doggy style is "Perrito", if you want her to come on you ask "Puedes venir arriba". Take care all the time that she is also comfortable and that she also enjoys it. Try to check her reactions and adapt your position, rhythm or amplitude to it. Be sensitive and ask her also : "Te gusta?". If you did anything wrong, that made have hurt her or feel uncomfortable, « Lo siento ». Don't forget to compliment her sometimes, even small words like "Rica!" or "Me gusta mucho". Other useful words are slower « mas suave », or faster « mas duro ».

With all these efforts, you have probably reached your goal and you are having GFE. The rest is up to you. Just a few useful words for the end:

Orgasming « Terminar »
Tip « propina »
Good by « Adios »
Tahnk you « Merci Beaucoup »
Take care « Cuidate »

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[Routard]

her is the second lesson of chica management. in this intermediate level, the purpose is not to get gfe, but to get real emotions from a chica. there is a huge difference between these two. gfe is a service offered “as if” she is your “girl friend”. here, we are speaking about real emotions. to make it more easy, we assume that this time we are not in a short session mode but in a todo la noche. when you spend a complete night with a chica, gfe is almost guaranteed. the chica just wants it to go right when she has to spend a complete night with someone, she will deliver quality service. but here we want to go to the next level. compared to a short session with a customer before and after you, a lot of things can happen in one night between two human beings alone. there might even be real feelings and even without real feelings, the girl might let herself go, enjoy for real and have even an orgasm. very exciting all this, as long as you are ready to make some efforts.

indeed, this second lesson requires a few previous skills. did you really believe you could get the intermediate level simply by reading this lesson? first of all speaking spanish is mandatory. staying like 12 hours with someone without being able to communicate is nerve breaking. yes, i know, there is body language, but sad to say females are more sensitive to oral communication. don’t fool yourself, get back to learn! believe me, learning spanish is about the most rewarding effort you might do in your life. it happens to be also the second most important language in the world with plenty of opportunities to practise it. start with a classical pimsleur language method, listen to it in your car instead of losing time in traffic. try to get to a level enough to start to follow spanish tv channels. once you have reached this level, tings go much faster without any effort, as you just need to watch tv or listen to the radio.

for the intermediate lesson, the goal is to try to understand a chica. it’s not only a matter of language, but also of cultural gap. depending your own background, this gap might be important or not. get back to work again, document yourself about latin america, his history, geography, sociology, economy and politic. believe me, you will learn a lot about this huge and diverse continent, from the top of the ice cold andes to the sand of the marvellous tropical caribbean beaches, through the amazonian jungle, from the ancient pre-columbian civilisation to the modern skyscrapers of the modern cities. it’s also an incredible diversity of cultures and people, a mix of native indians, european conquistadors and african slaves. colombia is at the cross section between central and south america, with a atlantic and pacific coast, it has a bit of everything you can find in latin america. what is true for colombianas is basically true for other latinas. only brazil is a country on it’s own, this huge country has a specific culture and language and is very different of the rest of latin america.

trying to understand the colombianas. this is dangerous stuff of course, trying to describe what is a colombiana or a latina. each person is a an individual and generalisation is always a mistake. let’s say i simply try to give a few general facts.

african origins are mainly among those living along the atlantic coast. for colombia, this means cities like carthagena and baranquilla. chicas from african origin are fun and laidback. they will easily enjoy sex but are less sensitive regarding feelings, will be more materialistic and less asking for commitment.

native indians are everywhere in latin america, except in countries where they have been exterminated such as argentina, uruguay or salvador. in colombia, they can be found everywhere but mainly in more rural areas such as cali. native indians have had trouble adapting themselves to the modern world. they are usually less educated and poorer. a chica from native indian origin will have a tradition view of marriage. she will be devoted to her man. in bed it might be surprising, but the y tend to try to please and forget about their own pleasure.

european descents are mainly in the bigger cities, in colombia mainly bogota and medellin. they are usually educated and close to the better social classes, which doesn’t mean she can’t be poor herself. they tend to put high value in self development and feelings. they might be cooler at starting but their passion has no limits.

in fact, most colombianas are a mix of these three origins, their attitude and character are also in the middle somewhere of this. a good advice, watch a few telenovelas if you want to understand a latina. try also to learn more about latin culture, especially music. merengue and bachata, both from dominican republic are easy to learn within an hour, any chica will help you to the basic steps. most teenagers however in latin america will listen to reggaeton, also from santo domingo. it’s a very natural dance, especially for mongers, but it’s not for the shy or the weak of heart. basically, it’s simulates sexual intercourse, so depending your background you may feel comfortable with it or not.

on the other hand, salsa needs at least a good year of practice before you might consider inviting a chica on the dance-floor. you can take salsa dancing lessons everywhere in the world, it’s a very popular couple dance. believe me, it’s worth the efforts, even the lessons are fun as the girls/boy ratio are in your favour, you will experience how it feels to be an endangered specie. also, not only chicas, but women love to be guided by an experienced dancer. dancing is a vertical expression of a horizontal desire. as a matter of fact, if you master latin dancing, there is really no need anymore to pay for meeting girls in latin america. but i’m already jumping to the next steps…

one more thing, you will need before starting the intermediate lesson: check your beginner lesson, over and over. mastering an art goes through experience, try as much different chicas as possible in short time sessions. from your experience, you will learn to improve your approach, your conversation, your attitude, as long as you are open to feedback and adapt yourself each time.

most important of all is that it will help you select a chica. i have developed a so called gps (girlfriendly pussy sensor), it allows me to detect the chica that fits with me, not only the chica i like, but the kind of chica that likes me also, in order to build mutual chemistry. my theory is that in an given club with 50 girls, there might be only 2 or 3 chica i would manage to give real emotions, no matter the strategies, the techniques or the efforts i would make to get it. the movie “hitch”, where will smith is a dating expert, gets to exactly the same conclusion : there is no such thing as a winning strategy. it’s because it’s her and it’s him. in real life, trouble is that you might bump into such girl, but she will never comes to you. in a brothel it’s the opposite issue, all girls will come to you, and its up to you to detect the right one. here is where mongering experience will help you. only mongering can allow you to meet so many girls and detect a pattern. through regular dating, you would never have come to the requested sample quantity for such analyse and stats. it’s not as scientific as it sounds of course, but with the experience you will learn to detect the type of girl that goes best with your own personality. the rest is just a matter of mutual respect and understanding, nothing more. don’t forget, the key to success is learning to detect the right girl.

yes, it will take years, but i’m simply helping to learn faster. if you can’t wait for that, let’s assume you have already started some spanish lessons, that you are open to latin culture and you have already some short sessions experience. this lesson will help to increase chances of real emotions during todo la noche.

first issue to face is again selection. during short session, it’s not a big deal. you did the wrong choice, never mind, fuck yourself out of the room even if you need to simulate orgasm, return to the bar and get the next one. for an all nighter, things are not that easy, you just have one choice. i can’t help you much in this as mutual chemistry is a personal matter. if you have not developed yet your own gfe sensor, one strategy is making a first selection through short session. it doesn’t work always, some promising girls during short sessions won’t necessary be much better during todo la noche.

some rely on time, come and visit the girls on a regular basis, develop some kind of friendship if not confidence with a girl before inviting her for a tln. it’s a good strategy for selection, but its not because she knows you for some time that you will be guaranteed for mutual chemistry. i guess you know plenty of women around you, you see on a daily basis, but you can’t even imagine having sex with. keep focused, on her attitude when she sees you again, on the way she watches at you when you are together.

but if you start to feel something special with a girl during previous short sessions, a good strategy is to date her for another day. it helps her to mentally prepare herself for a todo la noche. she will dress herself in a more convenient way and wait for you that evening, it makes a lot of difference than going for a todo la noche with a girl after she has already processed a couple of other customers before. it requires time however as you need several days to build up such strategy with a girl.

i usually don’t have that time in the same place and need to rely to my gfe sensor. i watch all girls in the club, their attitude and behaviour towards other girls and customers. i am not looking for the most beautiful, i simply try to find the one that will suit me most. don’t take me wrong, i am not saying that great looking girls are bad performers! just take care that you seam to match together. for example try to imagine yourself walking with her in the street, or look at a mirror if you are with her. it usually is obvious.

girls you notice first with silicon tits, sexy outfit, flashy make-up, confident if not aggressive approach are more likely to be since longer time in the business. they might be great performers, but they have learned over the years not to fall for emotions with customers.

i tend to watch for the wall flowers, the discrete girls who don’t speak a word of english, waiting to be approached. some have just started in this business, are homesick and lonely if abroad and far from family and deeply in need of emotional support. you can find some real gems among these girls.

one word about plastic surgery. it’s widely used in latin america as beauty is highly valued in these countries. however it remains a dream for most as they can’t afford it. hookers will even consider it as an investment and it’s the first expense they will make as soon as they have the money. natural tits are the most reliable clue to check if a latina is new in the business. funny is also to notice all those girls with braces in the brothels. it gives them a teenage look, but it’s simply that they just got the money to pay for orthodontic healthcare. a great smile and sexy tits, these are the main symbols of beauty for latinas. my opinion is that they don’t need plastic surgery, they should instead keep their money and make greater effort to try to loose weight. if the average latina had less fat, i guess i simply would become crazy for the overflow of choice. but each his own of course.

back to selection. let’s say you did the right choice. you have the right key, but you must now open the box with it. if you meet your soulmate, nothing may happen if you are not in the right environment and on the right moment. i usually tend to minimize the time in the bar and get her out of her working environment as soon as possible.

let’s get back to business first. the most important rule is that you must never ever pay the girl before. the only thing you cant’ avoid is the bar fine if there is one. i don’t like to negotiate pricing with a girl, but when there is no fixed pricing, the girl will not go for the night before a clear agreement. i usually don’t try to negotiate her pricing, for the fixed amount i try to get as much service as i can. i’m not the kind of guy making a list of the things i request such as dfk, bbbj, daty etc…it makes no sense anyway, i have nearly always managed to get what i want during the sessions from girls that had warned previously they don’t do this and that. it’s a matter of feeling, don’t talk about it, make her feel comfortable and get smoothly to it as you would do it with a regular girl. on the other hand, i negotiate usually the time we will stay together. i had been ripped off with my first tln in santo domingo, girls promising tln and leaving in the early morning after only a couple of hours together.

however i bring the subject in a very natural way. i ask her about what she likes to do and offer her to go for it and spend the night together. if she explains me that she would love to spend the night with me and have fun, but that she is here for earning money, i offer her to pay for compensation of the time she can’t work in the club. believe me, even hookers appreciate to be respected and seduced. latinas are proud. same for time negotiation. basically, she asks for let’s say 200$, i say ok, but we take breakfast together. she asks for 300$, i say ok, but it’s your day off, take your swimsuit, we spend all the day together and i bring you back the next evening before the clubs opens again.

let’s say you agreed to exit the club or for a meeting the next evening. next is to find what to do. the purpose of spending a whole night with a girl is not to bang her for 12 hours in a raw.
the purpose of tln is to enjoy company, go out in a natural environment and have fun together. one of the greatest thing is to enjoy the frustrated looks of other men who watch at your sexy latina and just don’t understand what such great girl is doing with the stupid asshole you are. yeah! you have always watched with envy the other women walking around, this time you are the one who fucks that sexy girl! it’s ok to have some primate instinct and be proud of your female trophy. but another very important thing is that it gives you the time to develop a special relationship with the girl before intercourse. keep focused on the goal, you try to get real emotions from the girl, so treat her as if she is a girlfriend.

where could you go? don’t make the mistake to bring her to an expensive restaurant. she won’t enjoy sitting without moving for hours in an unusual environment, dealing with unknown codes, eating strange food in company of a scary pervert trying to break silence with conversation of subjects she has no opinion about. believe me, she will probably appreciate much more a regular kentucky friend chicken or pizza hut.

another mistake to avoid is to walk around during daytime in the shopping area. what these girls love most is shopping. yes, it will make her happy, but it will make you poor too!

what these girls usually love are the glamorous places where everybody loves to watch and be watched such as nightclubs, casinos, bars at night , beaches and swimming pools of the main hotels on daytime. but best is simply to ask, some are fed up of the high level of music from her working environment and prefer a more quiet and relaxed place. just do in the same way as you would do with a girlfriend. you have to give her back her dignity for one night, making her forget her hooker status. it’s very important to be well dressed. a simple tshirt, cheap jean and sport shoes to try to look young is insulting for her. she wants to be proud to walk around with you. remember that dressing code and social status is highly valued in latin america.

here one of the most efficient strategy i have found although it is not always easy to implement. i have managed on several occasions to invite an escort (it’s the best definition) to join a group of friends or business relations for the evening and simply. what matters is that no one knows she is a hooker and that there are among them enough spanish speaking people to allow her to fully interact within the group. it’s amazing how these girls can easily play the role as long as you have explained her before how to act. in fact, she will play the character in such a way that she will simply forget she is a hooker, and that is exactly what you are looking for. the result is spectacular, and i mean even when you end up alone at the end of the evening. the “pretty woman” myth is very lively among latinas.

what do we talk about during the evening? the nice thing with a hooker is that these are maybe the only women you can be really yourself with and tell everything. it’s very comfortable of course, but i still don’t forget to focus on the goal and keep treating her as a usual girlfriend if you want her to be like that also later in bed.

i have usually a very confident attitude with these girls and don’t hide anything about my private life. interference is impossible as i monger only outside my home country. i still have learned not to tell about my marital status. a hooker doesn’t care of course, but hey, we are looking for the woman behind the hooker. it may sound strange, but marriage is sacred in latin america with a strong catholic culture. even hookers have strong catholic faith, just watch around for religious sign within a latin american brothel. prostitution on the other hand is considered less immoral than infidelity in marriage. prostitution is not a vicious attitude, it’s simply considered as a way to survive, nearly a sacrifice in the biblical sense to support family suffering from misery.

on the other hand, love for children is highly valued, it’s a good thing to talk about your children. if you act as a divorced man suffering from the distance with your children, you will touch her right in her heart. most of these girls are single mothers. usually, their children are raised my their parents for her to work abroad or in the city. she will have a lot to share about living far from children.

what you should know is that the classical prostitution scheme in latin america is very different from the western prostitution controlled by mafia, pimps and other human traffickers. most latina hookers have no men in their life and are emotionally vulnerable. they live for their family and kids. you should show yourself with great sense of responsibility towards your own kids, in contrast with the assholes that have left them alone raising and supporting their kids. additionally it may be of valuable help later to explain why you can’t commit yourself more with her if you feel you are loosing control of your relationship with her. but more about it in the next lesson.

other important thing with latinas, they are proud of their culture and country, especially when abroad. it’s insulting for her if you are not even able to point out on a map the country she comes from. i am passionate of latin america, and they love to feel that and share about it as they are homesick when abroad. it’s even stronger among colombianas as they have to face abroad the usual reputation about their country: violence, guerrilla and narco traffic. when they meet a foreigner who has fallen in love of their country, they feel as a patriotic duty to be grateful about it and do anything to please.

what does a latina look for with a man? it’s not difficult to find the answer, you just need to go to any meeting site such as www.cybercupido.com and read their profiles. all latinas look for a sincere man, faithful, respectful and who will take care of her. they have all been through the classical disillusions of machos disappearing after having left her with the responsibility of raising alone a kid. the telenovelas are also a great source of understanding what the latinas dream of. the “principe azul”is usually a socially successful mature man that will take care of her. of course, we are not here for marital commitment. just remember that age is not an issue if not valued. don’t flash your money and try to impress her with that, you have to act as a successful responsible man who respect and take care of women. westerners have good reputation in the eyes of the latinas, europeans even better. but don’t believe they are looking for a visa to leave their country as in other third world countries. latinas love too much their family and country to leave.

enough theory, just relax, be yourself, have a good time with her and forget she is a hooker. i usually avoid physical contact during the evening till we are in the intimacy of a room. no need to grab her tits and ass in public, simply some natural physical contacts such as opening a door, helping her to stand up, protecting her while crossing the street. remember, there is only one exception when physical contact in public is highly valued, it’s dancing. with dancing skills you will score high in her books. a latina loves to dance and be leaded by a man as if she is a princess. she will also appreciate the efforts you have made to learn latin dancing, best proof of your passion for latin culture. it also allows her to feel comfortable with your physical contact in a very natural way. if men knew all this, they would make more efforts to try to learn dancing.

enough learned about each other, time for action now. back in your room, you have to make her feel comfortable, as you are now in your territory. latinas are usually well educated, they will not act as if they are at home unless you gave her that permission. explain if she can use the mini fridge, how tv works, where she can leave her clothes, where are the towels to take a shower and so on. i usually start to take a shower and she usually follows. i come back in the room with a towel around my waist, an eye blink to the german fkk.

a few things about safety. if you have paid a bar fine, there is usually no problem, she would be in deep trouble with the club owner if she fucked anything up. most hotels in latin america ask for id when you bring back a female visitor, there is sometimes even an additional charge. it’s again for your own safety. but if you have picked up a pro in a nightclub, don’t bring her in an anonymous love motel, nothing will guarantee your safety. there are a lot of stories of drugged tourists robbed during their sleep. take care especially if you are not used to travel in latin america. keep your valuables in your safe, lock your stuff in your luggage, don’t leave your glass unattended. i know some guys leaving the door key locked up in the safety box to avoid the girl from escaping during the night, but i would not be that paranoiac. rely simply on your instinct.

here we are now in bed. will you be able to get real emotions out of her? don’t put too much pressure on yourself, it will not depend very much of your performance in bed. i remember a movie, a little boy asks to a hooker if there is a spot you can make a girl turn crazy by touching it. the hooker replies that he shouldn’t dream too much about it. but at the end of the movie, she indicates him that spot: it’s her heart. yeah, that’s the trouble with women, even more with latinas, to get an orgasm, emotional stimulation is more important than physical stimulation. however here a few useful things you need to know about female orgasm, nothing specific to latinas even if most of what i have learned was through my experience with colombianas.

for years i believed that a hooker just couldn’t get an orgasm. of course, i was so convinced about it that i didn’t do anything to give it, there was no reason it would happen. i then learned that my personal attitude had a strong influence on the girl’s performance, so i started to take into consideration her comfort and pleasure. i still believed that it was impossible for a woman with a dozen sessions a day to enjoy sex and have an orgasm. i simply made the mistake to believe that female orgasm was similar to male orgasm. what you should know is that an orgasm is an issue for a hooker, as it prevents her from continuing working. a hooker learns to control her body and have sex without feeling anything. the less experienced hookers tend to give therefore mechanical service. the better providers have learned to hide they don’t feel anything and can act as if they are enjoying sex. however, when hookers take off their protection, they can again have an orgasm, no matter how many times she had sex before.

why do girls have an orgasm with only some customers and why can we give orgasms only to some girls ? it’s simply a matter of mutual chemistry between two persons. women need more feelings than men to enjoy sex. but those who learn to know better their body (hookers are in this category of girls of course)learn also to enjoy sex without feelings. still, even men just enjoy more sex with feelings. feelings are a major factor of success. mutual chemistry can be only physical, but is usually emotional and physical for females.

is there a way to get easier mutual chemistry through attitude? what matters most is to be sincere, respect and have empathy for your partner. there is a theory that we tend to love those who love us. girls are more open if you are open yourself. pnl theory is very interesting, communication specialists know what i mean. women are more sensitive to oral communication, which is usually not male’s best skill. but other senses can be important too, body smell, kiss taste, look in the eyes, skin feeling…optimise different senses stimulation, sex is not only about physical rubbing of both genitals. keep eye contact, talk to her in a calm slow voice, kiss her, manage to get her smell your skin, caress her tenderly….

are sexual skills important for giving an orgasm? yes, but it’s just one factor among others. for example a lot of girls seem to react very positively with daty. there are a few biological reasons for that. tongue and lips are soft organs compared to a boned finger or a penis wrapped in a condom. daty allows also better stimulation of the clitoris than with normal intercourse. there are probably also a few emotional reasons, with daty a man is in a position of submission, acting to give and not take pleasure. however, daty requires some experience to be effective. apart from intercourse, another stimulation is fingering or anal, but few girls respond positively, if not an extra charge.

i have learned to improve daty, but it has never mean my favorite option. when there is real chemistry, i’m too busy to kiss. my opinion is that female desire comes with kissing. females usually feel that kissing is more intimate than intercourse, some hookers even refuse to kiss, leaving it only for their private life.

intercourse skills can be widely improved trough experience: positions, time extension and orgasm control, adapting rhythm and intensity to the partners reactions…of course a premature ejaculator or someone suffering from erectile dysfunction will have trouble giving an orgasm, but no need to be a porn actor. watch out about what is shown in porn movies. it has no other goal than visually stimulating men, don’t take it as an example to try to give orgasm. porn shows you basically everything you shouldn’t do to please a woman. i have been intimate once with a porn actress. when i watched later one of her movies i realized how different she acted when making love and when fucking for a porn movie.

can’t get out of this orgasm faq without answering the usual male question about how important the penis size is to give an orgasm. surprise! it is important. but not the bigger the better. in fact it simply must fit the partner’s body. again, mutual chemistry.

how do we know if the woman has an orgasm? there is a natural suspicion towards hookers that they simulate orgasms. but most hookers won’t try to simulate orgasm unless you ask so. here a few personal stats. during my 200 first sessions, i had not given any orgasm and may be just 10 of them faked an orgasm, which proves that hookers do not usually simulate. after the first orgasm i managed to give, my stats became to improve. two years ago i managed to give orgasm to 1 hooker out of 10 or 20, now i believe i am close to 1 out of 5. there might be a few simulations but most of the time there are clues enough to prove it can’t be simulated. still, it’s not easy to detect a real female orgasm. each woman reacts different some have discrete orgasm, without any sound or sign while others have biological signs impossible to simulate. i remember that girl with her bright eyes full of energy when we made love and who had her eyelids falling right after her orgasm, that other girl with her skin becoming red, that other one the orgasm had trigged a sudden nipple erection and a chicken skin reflex. there is no greater pleasure than giving pleasure to a woman.

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Next lesson, we are reaching the danger zone: how to manage a relationship with a Latina. This time, it’s not a goal to reach, but an issue to manage. If you reach this level, I simply hope you have had enough experience with the previous levels, else you are in deep trouble. Anyway, sooner or later, you will have to face it in your mongering career, we have all been there.

First, a few recommendations that will help you not to avoid but to delay the moment you will have to face this issue:

- Never hunt in your home country
- Change each time your hunting destination
- In each hunting destination, change each time your clubs
- In each club change each time of girls

If you start to see on a regular basis a girl from level 2, you are in the danger zone and will soon lose control over the situation. It usually starts with an Email exchange to keep in touch. Giving your phone number is the first wrong step you will make. A brothels is a secured and discrete environment who allows to keep a clear separation between fantasy and reality, between our monger life and real life. As a monger, we decide when it’s time to go for hunting, enter our monger character and head to the brothels. But now, we start to undergo the events. We receive heart breaking Emails, an overflow of SMS and phonecalls at any given time. It’s easy to forget a girl with time and distance, much more difficult when daily contacts remind you the intimate and passionate moments spend together. It’s simply impossible to continue living your comfortable normal life while a girl is struggling with an unfair life and you are her only light in the dark. You will soon make the next steps: meeting her outside the brothel, having sex without paying and here you are dating a hooker.

The latest communications techniques. It’s amazing how Latinas are comfortable with these techniques: Emails, SMS, MSN, Skype, videoconference, meeting sites…But their interests in high tech are just focused on one simple goal: keeping in touch with their beloved, family, friends, novios…When you are with a Latina, she will never leave her most precious tool, her phonecell. It rings all day long. When you are far from her and have the novio status, you will receive several SMS or Emails a day.

A few things about Latinas to understand better what has happened. Unlike Africa or Asia, there are few cultural differences between the Western World and Latin America. Even Western Europe with a strong Mediterranean influence is much closer to the Latin American culture than to the Slavic Eastern European culture. This explains why a relationship with a Latina can me so strong as long as there is no linguistic barrier.

Unlike other third world countries, people in Latin America are too happy to live in their country and need too much to stay close to their family to dream about immigration. A Westerner is not just a visa opportunity for a Latina. Most Latinas are single mothers who have learned to live without a man. Hookers have a tough job, but they are financially independent. Unlike hookers in Western countries, they are not victims of human traffic. I have even been impressed when I discovered the apartment in Bogotá of one of them I know for years now. Latina hookers are brave, but they are deeply in need of love. They are sincerely able to forget about your monger status and their hooker status and love passionately. They don’t need financial support anymore, they just need love, a man who loves and respect her, who can listen to her and share her good and bad moments of life.

The money issue. As long as you continue paying for the time spend together, everything is fine, you are still on the previous level. You pay for time and sex, feelings and emotions are free for both. There is no commitment on both side, we can’t speak of a real relationship.

Some do the opposite, they start to pay more than what is requested. Never forget, you can pay for sex, not for love. Paying more will not trigger any kind of love, it might even trigger lack of respect from her side. She might simply transform this relation into a good way to make money. In fact, you should never go halfway. If you start to spend a lot of money with a girl, you can only do this for one reason: to get her out of the business, take care of her and live with her.

Here is the key rule: a girl make a living through prostitution, ask money to a man and ask him to love her. She has to chose two out of these three. If a hooker asks money, he’s a customer, if she doesn’t ask for money it’s a lover. If she receives money from her lover that takes care of her, then she can’t prostitute herself with other men. Don’t fool yourself believing in any romance if you still continue paying a hooker. Social difference between you and her has nothing to do with it. Remember, a hooker who loves actually GIVES money, it’s what is usually called a pimp.

Once you start not to pay anymore for sex and time, you are getting into a true relationship which involves mutual commitment. You have reached the novio status. It might sound strange, but it actually involves fidelity from your side, even and especially with pros. Watch out, prostitution is a small world, she will easily know if you don’t respect your loyalty. Worse, most chica’s will soon know about it and will never agree to go with a collegue’s novio. The fact that she goes with other men is not to put into consideration in her eyes. For her it’s simply her job, for you it’s having fun. Believe me, there is a clear difference for her when she has sex with he novio or with her customers.

The difference is made trough feelings and emotions, but also in a more practical way without money exchange and…without condom. A condom is related to her job, it’s a symbolical protection to make a distance with customers. Don’t take me wrong, I am not pretending here that a hooker doing bareback is a proof of love, some do it simply out of stupidity. I am saying that a serious hooker in love who usually doesn’t do bareback during her job needs to make a difference between her customers and her novio. It’s a serious issue of course, but again not the one you have in mind. It’s way more easy to make a girl pregnant than to catch a STD. You heart me. Latinas have a strong female instinct of procreation. When she falls in love, she feels the need to be fertilized and have a baby with him. Remember, a Latina is full of love, maternal love allows her eternal love and keep something from that man that will escape her once again. Don’t believe she will do it to try to get child support from you. Latinas are formatted to take care alone of their child. Still, you will have to live with your conscience, having a child raised by a hooker and struggling with an unfair life in a third world country.

Before you get to this point, your conscience will have to face other issues. Believe me, it’s simply inhuman going on with your life when you know that the girl you love is fucked each night by a dozen strangers in a dirty brothel. These girls have to face problems you can’t even imagine from your comfortable background. You will have to face them also when you share her daily joys and sorrows. She just needs someone to listen, but it will be impossible to you not to react. You can’t let her in a physical danger when she has to face a specific threat, you can’t leave her ill without help, you can’t leave her facing a sudden major financial problem. You will soon realize that you can’t continue living on like this. You will try to push her back, but it will trigger even more feelings. When blowing hot and cold, you will drive a Latina crazy, she will feel as if she is in a Telenovela. Your relation will get stronger and stronger, with mutual passion you just can’t imagine. This experience will help you to learn a lot, not about Latinas but about yourself. That’s why I can’t help you more with this.

Depending of your own family life or of the love for her, you will have to decide about this relationship. You can either stop it or either continue, helping her to get out of the business and taking care of her. Stopping such relationship is very difficult, needs determination and frankness, be able to face tears and cries. Your best partners are geographical distance and sense of responsibility for your own family as long as you had followed the safety rules previously given. The second option will be developed in the last lesson, how to live with a Latina. But before, there is a much different one, maybe even the real answer to everything.

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What’s the next level, living and marrying a Latina? No, before reaching this level, there is a much more important one to consider. If you are looking for your soulmate, why the hell are you going with hookers? Do you really think that brothels are the best places to find a women to live with? You believe in destiny and that the hooker you met is unique? It seems to me that you haven’t learned the previous lessons. Passion between a man and a woman is wonderful, that’s why I live for. Love is so strong that you get the illusion of a unique and eternal feeling. I am so addicted to those wonderful moments when a man meets a woman that I have put all my efforts to get that feeling again. I have learned that it can be repeated over and over.

For a long time I used hookers for my passion addiction. It’s however much more difficult de trigger emotions and passion with hookers than with regular girls whose job is to simulate emotions and who are fed up of meeting so many men. If I managed to be so successful, it’s simply because mongering allows to make a quantity of experience simply impossible to get in normal life. I love Zing’s theory comparing hookers to simulators for learning about women. Pilots learn safely in simulators to face extreme experience impossible to get during normal flights. Hookers allow experimenting with women.

I have met hundred’s of Colombianas throughout all the Caribbean brothels, I have developed not only feelings, but also true friendship with lot’s of them and keep in touch for years now, growing with them. They have learned a lot with me about men and customers and I have learned a lot with them about hookers and women. Some even offered to work for me if I could help them to go to work in Europe. I have a good job and don’t need money, but it made me realize how easy it is to get to the other side of the mirror, to the dark side of the force…

I had a strong rule to always keep my adventure in the prostitution world not only to protect my personal and family life, but also because I respect too much women to make them believe I am looking for a relation simply to get sex. But experience showed me that hookers are not simulators, but women that can also be hurt. Hookers don’t deserve to be hurt in the same way. I know I must stop playing with hookers’ feelings.

On the other hand, I wondered if my “simulator” experience could help me in real life. I sometimes turn on my GFE radar in real life, and it starts to blink outside a brothel. Tempting to check if the sensor is as reliable in real life isn’t it? I decided I had to experiment it for real despite the rules I had made for myself, but far from my home country for safety reasons. Guess which country I chose fro my experiment? Colombia!

In fact my GFE radar turned out to be as efficient in real life. There is one difference: in a brothel all girls try to approach you and say yes, while in real world none come to you even those who like you. The GFE radar is the key of success in both worlds.

After having visited 50 countries over the world, I realized that Colombia was the country where I found the most girls that turned me on. For some reason, it seems also that it’s the easiest country where I turn on girls. It’s probably again a matter of chemistry, I guess each has it’s own country that works best for him. I found mine after years of travelling, again a matter of checking as much as possible. There is no other country in the world where so many women smile at me. Some have reported different experiences and claim better success in other countries that didn’t do it for me. Each his own, again the theory of chemistry.

How does it work? The fact is that Colombianas simply never refuse an invitation for a drink. I saw even a cute girl with a T-shirt “Offer this girl a drink” written in English! Things can’t be clearer. Why, simply because she is always ready to check the available options. I got this explanation from a Colombiana. When I explained that Western countries girls could be offended if invited for a drink, she simply couldn’t understand it. I had also trouble explaining what was sexual harassment, an unknown meaning in Colombia. Don’t be shy offering a drink to any girl you meet even in the street, I have never been refused. But watch out, if it is natural to offer a drink to a girl or even a meal, this does not commit her in anyway, and she is still not in your bed, unlike Western countries. The second step is the ritual exchange of phone numbers. That’s why it’s important having a local cell phone. If you have her phone, you are on the right path. If you call back and she accepts a second invitation, then it’s rock and roll.

One thing about cell phone. A Latina usually never gives her name when she calls you back. You are supposed to recognize her from her voice as you are not supposed having met other girls of course. Watch out for this, memorise her name in your phone cell and be prepared to it, else you will mix things up. Watch out also to put your phonecell on silent mode when with a Latina. Not answering an entering phone call is highly suspicious for her.

Where do you meet the girls? Anywhere I would say. What is important is speaking all day long to any girl you meet, even those who don’t turn you on. It must be a way of living. Any Colombiana will reply to a smile or to an “Hola!”. Ask any stupid question or say anything stupid about the weather or whatsoever, it doesn’t matter that much. Just one sentence is enough, she usually will continue conversation. After a few sentence, there is nothing wrong to invite her for a drink. I have heard several theories, one is that there are 7 girls for one guy in Bogotá. I don’t really believe in these stats. Another one is that if nearly all Colombianas are very good looking, the males are much less attractive. This is not my theory, I don’t feel qualified to judge males, I got this theory from several Colombianas. My experience is that Colombianas are simply passionate, full of love, eager to please a man and can’t live without loving someone. Colombianas from my experience seem also to love what is probably exotic for them, tall and blond, but I can’t say for sure if it’s only the girls I meet or a general opinion. For sure I love Colombianas and they seem to love me as much as I do.

Is this only possible in Colombia? I guess not, I simply was in my comfort zone with Colombianas. I was once with a friend I used to monger with. He relies on me to find the best mongering places, but one time I was in a destination without brothels. I went with him to a regular nightclub, be he simply assumed it was a brothel as he was used to it when he was with me. I saw him approaching two girls and within minutes he brought them to our table for sharing a drink. I had to warn him he wasn’t dealing with hookers, but he had approached them with such self confidence that it simply worked. You get the idea, just try it yourself.

So, what’s the reason for continuing paying when you get much better for free ? When in Latin America, I tend not to go anymore to brothels but to go instead to regular nightclubs. It’s very easy to meet regular girls, especially if you have some Latin dancing skills. It becomes also more difficult for me to spend so much money in an FKK party while I could get for the same amount a flight to Bogotá and meet my girlfriends.

Except the approach, I didn’t feel much difference between my “simulator “ experience and the real experience. Real Colombianas have unshaved pussy, turn the light down and don’t enter naked in bed, and of course I don’t wonder anymore if I am still supposed to pay or not, but that’s about it. It made me realize how sincere the hookers had been and that there emotions where not simulated.

A few words about dating sites. I have started to visit meeting sites such as www.amigos.com, www.latinamericacupid.com, and my favorite one www.cybercupido.com the later is completely free. It seemed to me too virtual at first, but I was amazed about the success rate, how easy it was to meet dozens of sexy girls. In fact, what happens in these sites is exactly what happens in the real world. I guess it’s still difficult to meet someone in the Western World with it, but it’s a great tool to meet Latinas. I checked the stats in www.cybercupido.com and guess what? Colombia is the only country in the world where the female members outnumber the male members. Colombianas are the most important group on this site, confirming what I had felt when in Colombia. In fact, once in Colombia you don’t really need a meeting site but it makes simply the first move through Internet easier than in the street. Don’t expect any answers however without picture, it is seen as suspicious. But once you put a picture, expect to receive daily messages. However, the Latinas on these sites have no cyber fantasies, they want to meet for real. If you are not supposed to come soon to visit their country, they will not insist. Needless to say, most Latinas on these sites are looking for a real relation, no simple adventure.

When reaching this level, I would say that it’s easier to date real girls than going into dangerous relationships with hookers. A Colombiana is a wonderful lover, beautiful and sexy, passionate and loving, devoted and faithful, happy and easy going. There si nothing greater than being loved by a Colombiana.

Will I stop mongering? In fact I know that in both options I can get passion but I can also hurt. The expert level is that, getting the emotions and feeling of a woman from a hooker but also approaching a woman as easily as a hooker. Getting from a hooker what you get from a woman and getting from a woman what you get from a hooker. I have reached this expert level only with Colombianas. When you have learned to fly, you walk forever looking the sky. My sky is Colombia.

Colombia, el riesgo es que te quieras quedar...

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[Routard]

I was reluctant at first adding this last level. I have trouble promoting marriage, building up a family and making children. I know, it’s the keystone of our society, essential for survival of human race. But eternal love has been designed in a time when life expectancy didn’t exceed 35. Here are a few bad reasons for marrying a woman:

- She has a hot as. Sure, but will she still have the same ass with 20 more years.

- She loves sex. Sure, any woman at the beginning of a relation loves sex and will do it three times a day…any women after 10 years of marriage ends up doing it once or twice a month.

- She is the mother of my kid. Sure, it doesn’t mean you that she is the woman of our life.

- She is the only one that wants to marry me. Hey, back to the first lessons!

I would prefer to talk only about simply living together. But it will be hard to keep it only to that with a Latina. There are a couple of reasons for it. One is the visa issue you will have to face when living with a Latina. For administrative reasons, you will most likely end up in a marriage, else it will become impossible to travel with her to your own country. Another one is the cultural aspect, remember a Latina is catholic, living with a man means marriage. And last one, more serious, a Latina will sooner or later come with the issue of having a baby with you.

Hey, if you have reached this level, did you do all the previous steps before or did you jump a couple of ones, especially level 4? There was a reason to put this level 4, if you have jumped it, it’s a key issue and you know it. Do you really want a former hooker to be the woman of your life and the possible mother of your children? Of course I assume you took her out of business, else you are still on level 3.

We all understand, it could happen to any of us. After all, who am I to give any judgmental opinion. We meet so many great girls that we can easily meet the one we simply can’t leave in her shit. I love those girls, and I hope that each of them will find a great man that will take care of them. They simply deserve it. I’m sure they can be great spouses and great mothers.

Trouble is that she is not only a former hooker, but you are also a former monger. She can easily forget her past, a woman who starts a life with a man simply erases all others from her memory, unlike men. But what about you? Will you always accept her past? I believe a former hooker can only be happy with a man that has no clue about her past. Another issue is that unlike her, you will always be a monger. Mongering is not an issue as long as your wife doesn’t know about it. Trouble is that a former hooker will detect much easier when you start to go again with other hookers. You get me, trouble is not her past, it’s yours and the fact that you will not be able to deal with her past.

I won’t be able to prevent you from trying if you are in this level, I can simply give one recommendation: NEVER EVER blame her for her past, no matter what happens. You have simply to forget about it and act as if she has never had that past.

So let’s assume that you did correctly all the steps and ended up living with a regular Latina. Are things easier? Not really, you just have one issue less. The main issue is still there, a male and female trying to live together in harmony. She is Latina, from a different cultural background. It sure is one more issue, but believe me, it’s way nothing compared to the male/female issue. You could easily misinterpreted misunderstandings, blame it to the cultural difference, but 99% is due to the difference between males and females. Anyone trying to live in couple should read “Man are from Mars, Women from Venus” the bestseller from John Gray. I won’t add too much about it if not about what makes it specific living with a Latina. Again I would give the same rule: NEVER EVER blame her for being a Latina.

There are a couple of issues to face, one of them being the location. Are you going to live in your country or her country? If she is already an immigrant in your country when you had met her or if you are an expat in her country, there is no issue, but if you live each in your own country, one of the two has to chose for exile. Most probably, she will have to come to your country. It’s a serious issue, don’t believe you did her a favour, rescuing her from a shithole and bringing her to paradise. On the contrary, it’s a major sacrifice, she will have to face a cultural gap, discrimination, exile, living far from her beloved family and country.

Even if you are both ready to adapt yourself to each other cultural differences, are your both families also ready for this? Remember, when you marry a Latina, you marry her family. Never try to break her connection with her family. You have to accept this, but if you know how to adapt yourself to other cultures, it’s a great feeling being member of a Latino family. Be prepared to visit on a regular basis her home country. The latest should not be real issue, but if you have different religions, you have to accept that your kids will be raised according to her Catholic faith.

Another issue is the rest of the environment, people can be cruel, especially if the ethnical, social, age and beauty difference is too obvious. There will always be that suspicion for others, she married you because of citizenship and money, you married her because you took advantage of it to get her beauty and youth. You probably don’t care what other may think, but she certainly will. Remember, Latinas are proud. Be always on her side.

However, despite those issues, I am convinced that a Latina is simply the best choice as a spouse and as a mother, she has so much love to give. We tend to have a very rational way of thinking, a Latina puts emotions and feelings first, that’ all you need to know to understand her. I have watched older couples in Colombia, and Colombianas seem to keep always the same attitude towards the men they love unlike what happens in the Western world. It is simply great to be loved by a Latina. And as last, the key rule: make her happy.

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[Lwomack58]

I have placed this under travel plans, but I see more response on this thread.

I am looking for some advice on a couple of cities to visit. First of all I fly out of Medellin on the 26th of Feb. So naturally I will be staying there for a few days. I am looking at either an apartment or the manison/VIP, which is best. My spanish is at the beginners level, meaning very, very basic.

Now the question are:

1. I am coming from Quito, so I can fly pretty much to any of the cities for about the same price. So what would be better, spend a few days in Bogota or Cartagena, or another city? Again my spanish skills are basic.

I have found some fairly cheap places to stay in either city. Just wonder which is best for someone new to Colombia? Plus which has the better women as far as price and best experience level.

I am not new to South America as I have spent 2 1/2 months between Lima and Buenos Airies. Also as far as beach scene, that is not important as I am spending 5 days in N.Peru beaches.

Any help and advice would be wonderful as I have been looking forward to seeing Colombia this whole trip. I also have a friend who lives in MANIZALES if he home, but again don't know the area.

Thanks in a advance.

[Trendy Andy]

Thanks for your comments, gent´s!

I have not intended a discussion older guys vs. younger guys. I ment rather the "distance problem" than the age.

Nevertheless I have enjoined your reports.

[Wisslis]

Hi all,

i just returned from a trip to Buceramanga.

Here is my newest work.

I only post maps and can not give any informations about Clubs or prices.
Mayby one of my friends that I traveled with can post some information about the clubs.

If you are at El Castiilo or the Mansion just ask for me (Don Pedrino) if you would like a bigger 1.5 MB map.