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[Hoof Hunter]

This is Colombia.

Remember that sex strike in Pereira by the women??? Didn't last long, huh.

The dudes who would be charged with enforcing this law would be...(guess).... Colombian men.

You really think they're going rat each other out??? Get real. For the price of a beer or a shot of whiskey, heads are turned now against worst things.

This law proposal will get nowhere. Why? Colombian men will have a talk with this idiot senator trying to score points.

Even if it were to get somewhere, Colombian women are VERY forgiving of their men. They turn their heads and play ignorant to this sort of stuff. Why? Short supply of decent dudes, hence why so many Colombianas dominate the internet sites. To lose a good Colombian dude, is to choose to possibly be lonely for a while. Both parties know their respective positions in the relationship. Men KNOW they can get away with cheating, so long as they are discreet about it. Women may even cheat back, but won't leave the dude.

It'll be business as usual in the casas and the strip joints, and prices will remain the same, if not higher, no thanks to the foreigner influx.

Gents,

This story interested me because I'm sure many of the Colombian gentlemen visiting casas (MP's) and strip joints are married. Could such a law cause a drop in attendance by these fellows? Could it cause a deflation of customers to the point where casas and the like will have to drop their prices to attract the lessening number of customers? Mmmmm....
(Reuters)

[Superboy1]

Gents,

This story interested me because I'm sure many of the Colombian gentlemen visiting casas (MP's) and strip joints are married. Could such a law cause a drop in attendance by these fellows? Could it cause a deflation of customers to the point where casas and the like will have to drop their prices to attract the lessening number of customers? Mmmmm....


Wed Sep 5, 9:15 AM ET

BOGOTA (Reuters) - Married Colombians engaged in passionate extra-curricular activities may soon have to think twice about their philandering ways if a senator's proposed legislation punishing adultery gets the green light.

Sen. Edgar Espindola said he has proposed a law that would impose fines and enforced community service as punishment for adulterers in an effort to protect family values and shield children from broken homes.

"I believe a lot of my companions are going to support this initiative," Espindola said on Tuesday. "This project should motivate Colombians to reflect on the importance of the marriage, the home and the importance of family."

He said aggrieved parties could take complaints and evidence such as photographs to local family judges, who would decide to impose fines of up to 20 minimum monthly salaries -- around $4,000 -- and obligatory welfare service.

Spouses forgiven by partners would escape punishment.

Some local radio commentators joked the proposal would get short shrift in Colombia's Congress because lawmakers were likely to want to hide their own indiscretions in the mostly Roman Catholic country.

(Reuters)

mmmm would be nice if they drop the prices, but remember its Colombia, who is going to enforce this law?

Superboy

[madrugada]

madrugada, that post actually inspires me.

Sounds like you werent too worried about safety concerns either, since you never mentioned it.

I prefer youth hostels, too. Dirt cheap, although it might be near impossible to get the privacy needed to sleep with a girl. I assume your make out sessions were in hotels or at the respective woman's residence?

I also like travelling with one single "backpack" instead of a suitcase and a bag.

Downside is US Customs will peg you as a poor nobody and be more likely to target you once you get back.

Actually, I was a bit concerned about safety when I was planning my trip and reading through the stuff in the internet travel forums. A lot of old horror stories can be found there, most of them dating back many years. Others stated "Colombia is 100% safe", so it was difficult to get a clear picture.

After having been there, I´d say the situation in the big cities is not worse than in other large SA cities, such as Lima or Quito. If you use common sense and exercise the same amount of caution you would use in other places in SA, you should be fine. The FARC seems to be still strong, but only in remote provinces where a tourist probably never want to go. And the times when whole cities were run by druglords such as Pablo Escobar are long gone by.

Regarding taxis, many forums and guidebooks advise to use only pre-booked taxis, by calling a central reservation line. I did not try that out - the locals said that normal taxis should be fine and for the radio taxis you need to wait 15-20 minutes. I used at least 2 or 3 taxis per day and never had a problem or felt unsafe. Just make sure you flag down a passing cab instead of taking one that is parked, and do what the locals do: "mira la cara", that means look at the face of the driver, if he looks somehow weird or dangerous, just take another cab.

And yes, hostels can be fun but are not exactly a good place to sleep with a girl, very little privacy. It´s better to go to a hotel. 30-40 USD should get you a simple but decent and clean double room (except in Bogota, which is more expensive). If you don´t know where to go, ask the chica...she always knows a place ;-)

[Monger#77]

Gents,

This story interested me because I'm sure many of the Colombian gentlemen visiting casas (MP's) and strip joints are married. Could such a law cause a drop in attendance by these fellows? Could it cause a deflation of customers to the point where casas and the like will have to drop their prices to attract the lessening number of customers? Mmmmm....


Wed Sep 5, 9:15 AM ET

BOGOTA (Reuters) - Married Colombians engaged in passionate extra-curricular activities may soon have to think twice about their philandering ways if a senator's proposed legislation punishing adultery gets the green light.

Sen. Edgar Espindola said he has proposed a law that would impose fines and enforced community service as punishment for adulterers in an effort to protect family values and shield children from broken homes.

"I believe a lot of my companions are going to support this initiative," Espindola said on Tuesday. "This project should motivate Colombians to reflect on the importance of the marriage, the home and the importance of family."

He said aggrieved parties could take complaints and evidence such as photographs to local family judges, who would decide to impose fines of up to 20 minimum monthly salaries -- around $4,000 -- and obligatory welfare service.

Spouses forgiven by partners would escape punishment.

Some local radio commentators joked the proposal would get short shrift in Colombia's Congress because lawmakers were likely to want to hide their own indiscretions in the mostly Roman Catholic country.

(Reuters)

I'd bet most of the men who monger wouldnt be able to pay this. Is his plan to throw all those men in jail for non-payment, like they do here in the US? Or is he only going to target rich men?

Colombia must be in need of an increased revenue stream.

Too bad this mangina wants to sell other men down the river to enforce his rules.

Or... Don't get married. Simply co-habitate.

[Cubanut]

Gents,

This story interested me because I'm sure many of the Colombian gentlemen visiting casas (MP's) and strip joints are married. Could such a law cause a drop in attendance by these fellows? Could it cause a deflation of customers to the point where casas and the like will have to drop their prices to attract the lessening number of customers? Mmmmm....


Wed Sep 5, 9:15 AM ET

BOGOTA (Reuters) - Married Colombians engaged in passionate extra-curricular activities may soon have to think twice about their philandering ways if a senator's proposed legislation punishing adultery gets the green light.

Sen. Edgar Espindola said he has proposed a law that would impose fines and enforced community service as punishment for adulterers in an effort to protect family values and shield children from broken homes.

"I believe a lot of my companions are going to support this initiative," Espindola said on Tuesday. "This project should motivate Colombians to reflect on the importance of the marriage, the home and the importance of family."

He said aggrieved parties could take complaints and evidence such as photographs to local family judges, who would decide to impose fines of up to 20 minimum monthly salaries -- around $4,000 -- and obligatory welfare service.

Spouses forgiven by partners would escape punishment.

Some local radio commentators joked the proposal would get short shrift in Colombia's Congress because lawmakers were likely to want to hide their own indiscretions in the mostly Roman Catholic country.

(Reuters)

[Mr Enternational]

Does anyone know if a a Verizon cell phone will roam there and be able to make and receive calls. It is CDMA

For doing your homework I will require you to pay my next year's subscription to ISG.
Colombia is not on the list of countries in which a Verizon subscriber can roam.

http://mobileoptions.vzw.com/interna...es/Mexico.html

[Monger#77]

madrugada, that post actually inspires me.

Sounds like you werent too worried about safety concerns either, since you never mentioned it.

I prefer youth hostels, too. Dirt cheap, although it might be near impossible to get the privacy needed to sleep with a girl. I assume your make out sessions were in hotels or at the respective woman's residence?

I also like travelling with one single "backpack" instead of a suitcase and a bag.

Downside is US Customs will peg you as a poor nobody and be more likely to target you once you get back.

[MJG Dogs]

I agree with Ricker, one of the best reports that I have seen. Well thought out and a very quick study of de colombianas.... Well done.....

[Ricker]

I still owe you a report from my trip to Colombia earlier this year. Had always been too busy to write it down, finally I found the time!

It was my first trip to Colombia, but not first time to South America. I had read a lot about this notorious country and was curious to see it. Like many other guys, my idea was to combine backpacker-style travel and sightseeing with meeting some nice chicas in the cities I was planning to visit, so when I came there, I would have a guide/girlfriend. Regarding accommodation, I stayed in backpacker hostels when I was on my own and switched to hotels when the situation required it.

Before I start: I am in my late thirties, average looking, fluent in Spanish, been a couple times to South America before. I was interested in meeting normal girls. My report does not focus on certain cities, I am just summarizing my experiences. If I find the time, I might add some city-specific stuff later.

1) The myth about Colombian girls

After reading through a few forums it sounded like this: all Colombian girls are of amazing beauty, but very poor, and badly treated by the local men, so they are desparate to leave their country. All foreign men, no matter how ugly they are, turn immediately into some sort of Brad Pitt when hitting Colombian ground and are permanently approached by those desparate and beautiful Colombian chicas. Sounds good, doesn´t it?

2) Meeting Colombianas over the internet

I had already signed up to Cybercupido some time ago, and to prepare for my trip, I reworked and updated my profile. I know some Latinas living in my hometown and had them review the profile to make sure it was ok. They also gave me some useful advice.

I was looking for girls in the 25-30 age range, and although there are thousands of colombianas profiles on this site, I found that when looking for a specific city, it quickly comes down to a few pages, especially when narrowing the search to profiles of slim and attractive girls with photos and that have shown some recent activity on the site. However, there were still enough girls to write to!

About one third to half of the girls I wrote to responded - actually I had expected a bit more enthusiasm from their side, see point 1) (the myth) – but it was still enough, I think I could not have handled much more (after all, you gotta write to all these girls at least couple of times). Some girls also sent me initial messages, interestingly many of them were from Barranquilla, this city doesn´t seem to get much attention. In the end I had collected some phone numbers for each of the cities I was planning to visit. I was ready to go!

3) Calling the girls (theory)

After setting foot on Colombian ground, I first had to learn some basics about the Colombian phone system. It seems that from a public payphone, you cannot call cellphones (and it took me almost a day to figure that out, darn!) So one of the first things on the to-do list was to visit a phone store and get a prepaid SIM card. There are two big operators, Comcel and Telefonica. The first chica I met advised me to get a Comcel card so I went to a Comcel store, the staff was friendly and helpful and after half an hour of filling out endless forms, I was set up with a Colombian mobile phone number. A big advantage, being able to make and receive calls without any hassle – well, almost!

4) Calling the girls (reality)

Well, shortly after meeting the second chica I was already doubting if this local SIM card thing had been a good idea. The problem was: when these chicas get your number, they will actually CALL you, whenever they feel like doing so. And: when they call you, they won´t say their names, you´ll only get a “hola lindo, como estas?” What´s the problem, you may think, I just program in their name and number! The problem is: mostly they will not call you from their cellphone, they will call from a “public” cellphone that is provided by ambulantes in the streets – they are carrying signs like “300 por minuto al celular” and will rent our their cellphone to anybody, this is how they make their living. Everybody uses these ambulantes because their rates are usually cheaper than the tariff that goes with your own phone. That means, there is no way of identifying a chica by her phone number, so you better make sure you recognize her voice otherwise it can get embarrassing! And, by the way, switching off your phone doesn´t solve the problem – these girls are jealous and will always ask you later “why was your phone switched off? I was trying to reach you !” If the phone is switched off most of the time, they get very suspicious!

So, to sum it up, a local SIM card can be useful, but if you are dating more than just one girl, think carefully about who you give the number to, and try to establish a communication routine where you rather call her (although this will not help much, if she feels like calling you she will do).

5) Meeting chicas in the streets and in bars

So, what about the beautiful and desparate colombianitas, where were they? I must say that during the three weeks I was there, I did not meet many local girls except the internet girls. For one part, the internet girls kept me busy for a good part of my time…..apart from that I am not the type of guy who just walks up to girls and start chatting with them….and finally, most of the chicas in bars and clubs seemed to be there with their local boyfriends or in mixed groups of guys and girls, where you could not tell exactly if it was novios or just amigos. And mostly, they seemed to be happy and having fun with their local guys and not desparate at all! Sure, there were always occasional groups of single women and it would probably be possible to meet someone. I´d say it mostly depends on how much game you have and how outgoing you are, actually it´s not much different than in your home country. I met lots of other backpackers during my trip (mostly male, not surprisingly) and their mileage varied a lot….I witnessed a guy coming into town, hitting a club and getting laid the first night, and on the other side I talked to guys traveling the country for five weeks and not getting laid at all, as they told me.

6) Meeting the internet girls

So, how did it finally work out with the girls I met over the internet? Well, not too bad. In total, I met four girls during my trip. With the first girl, a pretty student girl in her mid-20´s, I hit it off immediately. We connected well, the action started on the first evening we met and this continued to be our favourite activity for more than one week. She was slim, had a pretty face and a real hardbody, and she was very uncomplicated and open to anything. What more could I desire! When we did not shag, we did sightseeing together and she introduced me to some of her friends. Because we had such a good time, I arranged to see her again at the end of my trip.
Moving on to another city, I met a girl that was also very sweet and pretty but also more serious. I did not score with her because she was one of those conservative girls who don´t drop their panties quickly (yes these exist in Colombia too), but we went out together for about a week and spent the evenings with lots of kissing and touching, and it was very enjoyable.

Each of these two girls was a 7-8 in looks, and was great company to be with. However, none of them would actually consider leaving their country for going with some gringo to a land far far away. They could not imagine to live without their family and friends, and although they were not rich, they had jobs that were kind of ok and they were not desperate to leave their country. One of these girls even told me she had previously been with a Colombian guy and had left him when he wanted to move to the U.S., something she was not interested in at all.

The other two girls I met only once or twice for some sightseeing - they were nice, but not nearly as attractive as the two above mentioned girls, and I guess I was already spoiled ;-)

The rest of the girls I did not meet because either it did not work out - they were out of town when I called them – or I did not call them because I was at this time already dating the other girls.

7) So, how was it?

All in all, I had a very good time in Colombia - out of the three weeks I had more than one week of great sex, another week of nice GFE-style dating, each with a very pretty girl, so I had no reason to complain. And I am still in contact with both girls.
But as far as the myths about Colombianas go, I would say that a lot of this stuff is wrong. Neither are they all desparate to leave their country, nor does the pure fact that you are a foreigner guarantee you to get laid. Maybe it´s a bit easier than at home and you might be able to get better-looking girls, but you still need to do your homework, date them and win them over. And despite all that can be read in the forums, typical Latinas are actually quite conservative when it comes to sex, especially the “good” girls, and jumping into the bed with an unknown foreigner on the first night is, as far as I know, rather the exception than the rule. I guess I had been quite lucky with my student girl, but it would be unrealistic to expect that it is like this with every girl.

I would advise anyone thinking about going to Colombia not go for the girls only – this country is beautiful and has a lot to offer: ancient culture, colonial cities, bustling nightlife, mountains, beaches, rainforests, great food and music, friendly locals – yes the chicas are the icing on the cake, but try to sample some of the other stuff as well.

Have fun!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

Great report senor Madrugada (great name too),

Great observations of las Colombianas. For me personally, if a Colombiana DOES want to leave her country, red flags come up and I run.

Take care amigo :)

[Winner71]

Great overall report. I'm thrilled that you too admire all that there is in Colombia.

I still owe you a report from my trip to Colombia earlier this year. Had always been too busy to write it down, finally I found the time!

It was my first trip to Colombia, but not first time to South America. I had read a lot about this notorious country and was curious to see it. Like many other guys, my idea was to combine backpacker-style travel and sightseeing with meeting some nice chicas in the cities I was planning to visit, so when I came there, I would have a guide/girlfriend. Regarding accommodation, I stayed in backpacker hostels when I was on my own and switched to hotels when the situation required it.

Before I start: I am in my late thirties, average looking, fluent in Spanish, been a couple times to South America before. I was interested in meeting normal girls. My report does not focus on certain cities, I am just summarizing my experiences. If I find the time, I might add some city-specific stuff later.

1) The myth about Colombian girls

After reading through a few forums it sounded like this: all Colombian girls are of amazing beauty, but very poor, and badly treated by the local men, so they are desparate to leave their country. All foreign men, no matter how ugly they are, turn immediately into some sort of Brad Pitt when hitting Colombian ground and are permanently approached by those desparate and beautiful Colombian chicas. Sounds good, doesn´t it?

2) Meeting Colombianas over the internet

I had already signed up to Cybercupido some time ago, and to prepare for my trip, I reworked and updated my profile. I know some Latinas living in my hometown and had them review the profile to make sure it was ok. They also gave me some useful advice.

I was looking for girls in the 25-30 age range, and although there are thousands of colombianas profiles on this site, I found that when looking for a specific city, it quickly comes down to a few pages, especially when narrowing the search to profiles of slim and attractive girls with photos and that have shown some recent activity on the site. However, there were still enough girls to write to!

About one third to half of the girls I wrote to responded - actually I had expected a bit more enthusiasm from their side, see point 1) (the myth) – but it was still enough, I think I could not have handled much more (after all, you gotta write to all these girls at least couple of times). Some girls also sent me initial messages, interestingly many of them were from Barranquilla, this city doesn´t seem to get much attention. In the end I had collected some phone numbers for each of the cities I was planning to visit. I was ready to go!

3) Calling the girls (theory)

After setting foot on Colombian ground, I first had to learn some basics about the Colombian phone system. It seems that from a public payphone, you cannot call cellphones (and it took me almost a day to figure that out, darn!) So one of the first things on the to-do list was to visit a phone store and get a prepaid SIM card. There are two big operators, Comcel and Telefonica. The first chica I met advised me to get a Comcel card so I went to a Comcel store, the staff was friendly and helpful and after half an hour of filling out endless forms, I was set up with a Colombian mobile phone number. A big advantage, being able to make and receive calls without any hassle – well, almost!

4) Calling the girls (reality)

Well, shortly after meeting the second chica I was already doubting if this local SIM card thing had been a good idea. The problem was: when these chicas get your number, they will actually CALL you, whenever they feel like doing so. And: when they call you, they won´t say their names, you´ll only get a “hola lindo, como estas?” What´s the problem, you may think, I just program in their name and number! The problem is: mostly they will not call you from their cellphone, they will call from a “public” cellphone that is provided by ambulantes in the streets – they are carrying signs like “300 por minuto al celular” and will rent our their cellphone to anybody, this is how they make their living. Everybody uses these ambulantes because their rates are usually cheaper than the tariff that goes with your own phone. That means, there is no way of identifying a chica by her phone number, so you better make sure you recognize her voice otherwise it can get embarrassing! And, by the way, switching off your phone doesn´t solve the problem – these girls are jealous and will always ask you later “why was your phone switched off? I was trying to reach you !” If the phone is switched off most of the time, they get very suspicious!

So, to sum it up, a local SIM card can be useful, but if you are dating more than just one girl, think carefully about who you give the number to, and try to establish a communication routine where you rather call her (although this will not help much, if she feels like calling you she will do).

5) Meeting chicas in the streets and in bars

So, what about the beautiful and desparate colombianitas, where were they? I must say that during the three weeks I was there, I did not meet many local girls except the internet girls. For one part, the internet girls kept me busy for a good part of my time…..apart from that I am not the type of guy who just walks up to girls and start chatting with them….and finally, most of the chicas in bars and clubs seemed to be there with their local boyfriends or in mixed groups of guys and girls, where you could not tell exactly if it was novios or just amigos. And mostly, they seemed to be happy and having fun with their local guys and not desparate at all! Sure, there were always occasional groups of single women and it would probably be possible to meet someone. I´d say it mostly depends on how much game you have and how outgoing you are, actually it´s not much different than in your home country. I met lots of other backpackers during my trip (mostly male, not surprisingly) and their mileage varied a lot….I witnessed a guy coming into town, hitting a club and getting laid the first night, and on the other side I talked to guys traveling the country for five weeks and not getting laid at all, as they told me.

6) Meeting the internet girls

So, how did it finally work out with the girls I met over the internet? Well, not too bad. In total, I met four girls during my trip. With the first girl, a pretty student girl in her mid-20´s, I hit it off immediately. We connected well, the action started on the first evening we met and this continued to be our favourite activity for more than one week. She was slim, had a pretty face and a real hardbody, and she was very uncomplicated and open to anything. What more could I desire! When we did not shag, we did sightseeing together and she introduced me to some of her friends. Because we had such a good time, I arranged to see her again at the end of my trip.
Moving on to another city, I met a girl that was also very sweet and pretty but also more serious. I did not score with her because she was one of those conservative girls who don´t drop their panties quickly (yes these exist in Colombia too), but we went out together for about a week and spent the evenings with lots of kissing and touching, and it was very enjoyable.

Each of these two girls was a 7-8 in looks, and was great company to be with. However, none of them would actually consider leaving their country for going with some gringo to a land far far away. They could not imagine to live without their family and friends, and although they were not rich, they had jobs that were kind of ok and they were not desperate to leave their country. One of these girls even told me she had previously been with a Colombian guy and had left him when he wanted to move to the U.S., something she was not interested in at all.

The other two girls I met only once or twice for some sightseeing - they were nice, but not nearly as attractive as the two above mentioned girls, and I guess I was already spoiled ;-)

The rest of the girls I did not meet because either it did not work out - they were out of town when I called them – or I did not call them because I was at this time already dating the other girls.

7) So, how was it?

All in all, I had a very good time in Colombia - out of the three weeks I had more than one week of great sex, another week of nice GFE-style dating, each with a very pretty girl, so I had no reason to complain. And I am still in contact with both girls.
But as far as the myths about Colombianas go, I would say that a lot of this stuff is wrong. Neither are they all desparate to leave their country, nor does the pure fact that you are a foreigner guarantee you to get laid. Maybe it´s a bit easier than at home and you might be able to get better-looking girls, but you still need to do your homework, date them and win them over. And despite all that can be read in the forums, typical Latinas are actually quite conservative when it comes to sex, especially the “good” girls, and jumping into the bed with an unknown foreigner on the first night is, as far as I know, rather the exception than the rule. I guess I had been quite lucky with my student girl, but it would be unrealistic to expect that it is like this with every girl.

I would advise anyone thinking about going to Colombia not go for the girls only – this country is beautiful and has a lot to offer: ancient culture, colonial cities, bustling nightlife, mountains, beaches, rainforests, great food and music, friendly locals – yes the chicas are the icing on the cake, but try to sample some of the other stuff as well.

Have fun!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[Wbpt12]

Does anyone know if a a Verizon cell phone will roam there and be able to make and receive calls. It is CDMA

[madrugada]

I still owe you a report from my trip to Colombia earlier this year. Had always been too busy to write it down, finally I found the time!

It was my first trip to Colombia, but not first time to South America. I had read a lot about this notorious country and was curious to see it. Like many other guys, my idea was to combine backpacker-style travel and sightseeing with meeting some nice chicas in the cities I was planning to visit, so when I came there, I would have a guide/girlfriend. Regarding accommodation, I stayed in backpacker hostels when I was on my own and switched to hotels when the situation required it.

Before I start: I am in my late thirties, average looking, fluent in Spanish, been a couple times to South America before. I was interested in meeting normal girls. My report does not focus on certain cities, I am just summarizing my experiences. If I find the time, I might add some city-specific stuff later.

1) The myth about Colombian girls

After reading through a few forums it sounded like this: all Colombian girls are of amazing beauty, but very poor, and badly treated by the local men, so they are desparate to leave their country. All foreign men, no matter how ugly they are, turn immediately into some sort of Brad Pitt when hitting Colombian ground and are permanently approached by those desparate and beautiful Colombian chicas. Sounds good, doesn´t it?

2) Meeting Colombianas over the internet

I had already signed up to Cybercupido some time ago, and to prepare for my trip, I reworked and updated my profile. I know some Latinas living in my hometown and had them review the profile to make sure it was ok. They also gave me some useful advice.

I was looking for girls in the 25-30 age range, and although there are thousands of colombianas profiles on this site, I found that when looking for a specific city, it quickly comes down to a few pages, especially when narrowing the search to profiles of slim and attractive girls with photos and that have shown some recent activity on the site. However, there were still enough girls to write to!

About one third to half of the girls I wrote to responded - actually I had expected a bit more enthusiasm from their side, see point 1) (the myth) – but it was still enough, I think I could not have handled much more (after all, you gotta write to all these girls at least couple of times). Some girls also sent me initial messages, interestingly many of them were from Barranquilla, this city doesn´t seem to get much attention. In the end I had collected some phone numbers for each of the cities I was planning to visit. I was ready to go!

3) Calling the girls (theory)

After setting foot on Colombian ground, I first had to learn some basics about the Colombian phone system. It seems that from a public payphone, you cannot call cellphones (and it took me almost a day to figure that out, darn!) So one of the first things on the to-do list was to visit a phone store and get a prepaid SIM card. There are two big operators, Comcel and Telefonica. The first chica I met advised me to get a Comcel card so I went to a Comcel store, the staff was friendly and helpful and after half an hour of filling out endless forms, I was set up with a Colombian mobile phone number. A big advantage, being able to make and receive calls without any hassle – well, almost!

4) Calling the girls (reality)

Well, shortly after meeting the second chica I was already doubting if this local SIM card thing had been a good idea. The problem was: when these chicas get your number, they will actually CALL you, whenever they feel like doing so. And: when they call you, they won´t say their names, you´ll only get a “hola lindo, como estas?” What´s the problem, you may think, I just program in their name and number! The problem is: mostly they will not call you from their cellphone, they will call from a “public” cellphone that is provided by ambulantes in the streets – they are carrying signs like “300 por minuto al celular” and will rent our their cellphone to anybody, this is how they make their living. Everybody uses these ambulantes because their rates are usually cheaper than the tariff that goes with your own phone. That means, there is no way of identifying a chica by her phone number, so you better make sure you recognize her voice otherwise it can get embarrassing! And, by the way, switching off your phone doesn´t solve the problem – these girls are jealous and will always ask you later “why was your phone switched off? I was trying to reach you !” If the phone is switched off most of the time, they get very suspicious!

So, to sum it up, a local SIM card can be useful, but if you are dating more than just one girl, think carefully about who you give the number to, and try to establish a communication routine where you rather call her (although this will not help much, if she feels like calling you she will do).

5) Meeting chicas in the streets and in bars

So, what about the beautiful and desparate colombianitas, where were they? I must say that during the three weeks I was there, I did not meet many local girls except the internet girls. For one part, the internet girls kept me busy for a good part of my time…..apart from that I am not the type of guy who just walks up to girls and start chatting with them….and finally, most of the chicas in bars and clubs seemed to be there with their local boyfriends or in mixed groups of guys and girls, where you could not tell exactly if it was novios or just amigos. And mostly, they seemed to be happy and having fun with their local guys and not desparate at all! Sure, there were always occasional groups of single women and it would probably be possible to meet someone. I´d say it mostly depends on how much game you have and how outgoing you are, actually it´s not much different than in your home country. I met lots of other backpackers during my trip (mostly male, not surprisingly) and their mileage varied a lot….I witnessed a guy coming into town, hitting a club and getting laid the first night, and on the other side I talked to guys traveling the country for five weeks and not getting laid at all, as they told me.

6) Meeting the internet girls

So, how did it finally work out with the girls I met over the internet? Well, not too bad. In total, I met four girls during my trip. With the first girl, a pretty student girl in her mid-20´s, I hit it off immediately. We connected well, the action started on the first evening we met and this continued to be our favourite activity for more than one week. She was slim, had a pretty face and a real hardbody, and she was very uncomplicated and open to anything. What more could I desire! When we did not shag, we did sightseeing together and she introduced me to some of her friends. Because we had such a good time, I arranged to see her again at the end of my trip.
Moving on to another city, I met a girl that was also very sweet and pretty but also more serious. I did not score with her because she was one of those conservative girls who don´t drop their panties quickly (yes these exist in Colombia too), but we went out together for about a week and spent the evenings with lots of kissing and touching, and it was very enjoyable.

Each of these two girls was a 7-8 in looks, and was great company to be with. However, none of them would actually consider leaving their country for going with some gringo to a land far far away. They could not imagine to live without their family and friends, and although they were not rich, they had jobs that were kind of ok and they were not desperate to leave their country. One of these girls even told me she had previously been with a Colombian guy and had left him when he wanted to move to the U.S., something she was not interested in at all.

The other two girls I met only once or twice for some sightseeing - they were nice, but not nearly as attractive as the two above mentioned girls, and I guess I was already spoiled ;-)

The rest of the girls I did not meet because either it did not work out - they were out of town when I called them – or I did not call them because I was at this time already dating the other girls.

7) So, how was it?

All in all, I had a very good time in Colombia - out of the three weeks I had more than one week of great sex, another week of nice GFE-style dating, each with a very pretty girl, so I had no reason to complain. And I am still in contact with both girls.
But as far as the myths about Colombianas go, I would say that a lot of this stuff is wrong. Neither are they all desparate to leave their country, nor does the pure fact that you are a foreigner guarantee you to get laid. Maybe it´s a bit easier than at home and you might be able to get better-looking girls, but you still need to do your homework, date them and win them over. And despite all that can be read in the forums, typical Latinas are actually quite conservative when it comes to sex, especially the “good” girls, and jumping into the bed with an unknown foreigner on the first night is, as far as I know, rather the exception than the rule. I guess I had been quite lucky with my student girl, but it would be unrealistic to expect that it is like this with every girl.

I would advise anyone thinking about going to Colombia not go for the girls only – this country is beautiful and has a lot to offer: ancient culture, colonial cities, bustling nightlife, mountains, beaches, rainforests, great food and music, friendly locals – yes the chicas are the icing on the cake, but try to sample some of the other stuff as well.

Have fun!

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here for more information.

[Jon32]

It is not good. There are 3.3 million people in the metro area between 2 mountain ranges. The air tends to be trapped in the valley. There are good anti-pollution laws. However, those laws are not enforced.

You will have problems in Medellin.

Cartagena has a constant breeze off the Caribbean. The air there is good and the allergens are very low.

Wow thanks you guys made a hard decision pretty easy. This board is so much more then mongering...

[Scooby1]

How to swear, insult, cuss and curse in Colombian Spanish!
Colombian Spanish Language Swearing & English Translation.

Colombian Spanish-------------------English Translation

Tu puta madre me la chupa----------Your ***** mother sucks my prick
Tetra Hijueputa----------------------Huge son-of-a-*****
Hijueputa ---------------------------Son-of-a-*****
Pichar------------------------------To fuck
Tirar--------------------------------To fuck
Cacorro-----------------------------Faggot
Grilla--------------------------------***** (lit. female cricket)
Zunga------------------------------*****
Fufa / fufurufa----------------------*****
Comerse a ___----------------------To be fucked by ___
Hijuepuerca-------------------------Son of a *****
Hijuemadre-------------------------Son of a ***** (tamer version of Hijueputa)
¡Su mamá!------------------------- Your mother! (when replying to an insult)
¡La suya! ---------------------------Yours! (when replying to the above)
Cuca-------------------------------****
Chocha-----------------------------****
Chimbo-----------------------------Prick (lit. coarse, crude)
Chimba-----------------------------**** (lit. female "chimbo")
Chito-------------------------------Prick (lit. the name of a snack)
Pipí---------------------------------Prick
Mondá------------------------------Prick
Jalarse la tripa----------------------To wank
Dar por el culo----------------------Give on the ass
Triplejueputa------------------------Triple son of a *****
Venirse-----------------------------To cum
Remalparido/a-----------------------Big bastard (very strong)
So-hijueputa------------------------Big son of a *****
Güeva------------------------------Testicle, ball
Güevón-----------------------------Idiot (lit. big testicle)
Se le moja la canoa----------------- Faggot (lit. his rowboat gets wet)
Arepera-----------------------------Lesbian
Chúpeme la mondá ------------------Suck my dick
Chúpeme la verga--------------------Suck my dick
Chúpeme la picha--------------------Suck my dick
Echemos un polvo--------------------Let's fuck
Comer------------------------------To have sex (lit. to eat)
Mongólico/a-------------------------Retarded (lit. Mongoloid) (it comes in male and female variant)
Mal Parido---------------------------Born bad (Strong insult)
Marica-------------------------------Fag
No Joda-----------------------------Get lost!
Métase el dedo por el culo------------Stick your finger up your ass
Pajearse-----------------------------To wank
Culear-------------------------------To fuck on the ass
Pichar-------------------------------To fuck
Jalarse la pita------------------------To wank (lit. to pull the string)
Apuñalar al mico---------------------To wank (lit. to stab the monkey)
Echarse dedo------------------------To finger
Arrecho-----------------------------Turned on (masc.)
Arrecha-----------------------------Turned on (fem.)
Verga-------------------------------Dick
Tetas-------------------------------Tits
Puta--------------------------------*****
Calambre llanero---------------------Have an erection (cramps from the plains)
Izando bandera----------------------Have an erection (raise the flag)
Hacerse la paja----------------------To masturbate (to make straw)
Puneta------------------------------Jerk-off
Chochal-----------------------------*****house
Gonorrea----------------------------Gonorrhea
Jopo--------------------------------Ass
Pinga-------------------------------Dick
Puteadero--------------------------*****house
Se le moja la canoa-----------------Faggot (lit. his canoe makes water)
Teta-------------------------------Tit
Hijo de puta------------------------Son of a *****
Cual es la chimbada pues?-----------What's your problem?
Pirovo------------------------------Dumb
Chnichurria-------------------------Dumb
Gorzovia---------------------------Dumb
Catrechimba------------------------Pussy
Despegala pues!--------------------Fuck off!
Colla-------------------------------****, *****
Bollo de mierda---------------------Turd
Cara de verga----------------------Dickface
Churrias----------------------------Diarrhea

[Member #3437]

I would take that piece with an entire shaker of salt. Much of the fundamental information they dictate as fact is embellishment on two short news articles; a Reuters article supposedly published in 2003, and a Wall Street Journal article supposedly published in 1995. If you do a little searching you can find them on other sites, but there isn't any way to know if they are authentic without contacting those claimed publishers. For those of you who have Bogota contacts, it would be interesting to know if the supposed officials and experts they interviewed (the cop, the doctor, etc) are really the people holding those positions.

Personally, I have a bit of a hard time believing that Colombians are going to spill the beans, on camera no less, to a couple of douchey looking, Gap dressing, art school gringo fags about things that could result in serious punishment. The whole thing makes me feel like I'm watching Blair Witch again.

Drugging people into unconsciousness is reality and is nothing new. Turning people into perfectly normal looking and functioning but otherwise zombie-esque creatures is something different all together. There is no sense in not being careful, but without some credible backing, I wouldn't let this ruin my vacation.

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Well, those douchbagging american kids travel all over doing these videos and they are quite good. As a matter of fact, I saw one of them on TV last sunday where they were in the sewer city, in bogota, talking to the 'sewer kids' and interviewing the police captain of Bogota. the video production is really quite good, and the stories they do are compelling. They have done really really good stories. Of particular interest is a story you can find on their home page of Cartageneros fucking donkeys...or perhaps the story they did on Manilla's garbage dump and the 10,000 men,women and children who live in it and survive by collecting items from the garbage trucks that arrive every day. Here is the home page....

http://www.vbs.tv/

search out the vice guide to travel for stories of particular interest to us mongers.


A step further, I have heard these stories for sure from Colombians for years. I told my lady about it (she is native colombian) by saying, " I just watched a video on that drug from colombia you told me about". Her reaction was "Scopoline?" and I said yes, then we watched the movie together. Her accessment of the vid was quite different from yours as she thought it was very good. As for the Colombian schitzo drug dealer, he reminds me of loony acid heads back in the States when I was younger.

No, I have a different reaction to the video than you did. I think it was great production. I do think the problem isn't as widespread as they say, and the carefull monger really just needs to be sure he watches his drink carefully.

In January I did meet an american guy in Peru that this happened to. He is on an extended travel and had been in Peru for about a year. He took a bus from Northern Peru to Lima and was talking to a nice looking woman in the early 30s on the bus and they hit it off (I know, too old for me also). Anyway, they stopped over at a hotel in a town, got a hotel and he went to take a shower, and the next thing he knew he was waking up in the bed and all his money and expensive camera's were missing and he couldn't remember anything after he went to take the shower. This is a well known story around the Lima mongers because he stayed in Lima for quite a long time and told the story.

So, I don't think, like you said, that anyone should be overly concerned about this..just cautious like we are about all the circumstances that can get you caught up in shit while you are traveling.