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[Admin]

Greetings everyone,

In recognition of his many great contributions to the Forum, I have given Npaul1 his own thread titled "Npaul1 in Colombia".

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ead.php?t=2673

Those of you who wish to join him in the discussions in his new thread are welcome to do so.

I also cleaned up this thread by deleting several reports that were generally argumentative in nature. This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Andy575]

Everyone traveling to Colombia should be aware of the dangers of Scopolamine / Burundanga.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine
The below video offers several first hand accounts of people who have been drugged, who do the drugging, etc.

http://www.vbs.tv/player.php?bctid=1...YwNF9fTkVXUw==

I would take that piece with an entire shaker of salt. Much of the fundamental information they dictate as fact is embellishment on two short news articles; a Reuters article supposedly published in 2003, and a Wall Street Journal article supposedly published in 1995. If you do a little searching you can find them on other sites, but there isn't any way to know if they are authentic without contacting those claimed publishers. For those of you who have Bogota contacts, it would be interesting to know if the supposed officials and experts they interviewed (the cop, the doctor, etc) are really the people holding those positions.

Personally, I have a bit of a hard time believing that Colombians are going to spill the beans, on camera no less, to a couple of douchey looking, Gap dressing, art school gringo fags about things that could result in serious punishment. The whole thing makes me feel like I'm watching Blair Witch again.

Drugging people into unconsciousness is reality and is nothing new. Turning people into perfectly normal looking and functioning but otherwise zombie-esque creatures is something different all together. There is no sense in not being careful, but without some credible backing, I wouldn't let this ruin my vacation.

Most importantly, however, does anyone recognize and have contact information for the girl in their second segment in the restaurant who talks about her uncle dying? She is gorgeous. I must purchase her for an extended engagement.

She will be mine. Oh yes, she will be mine.

[Mr Enternational]

There was a part in the video where it said some people wake up in the bathtub with an organ missing with a note on top of them saying they have 5 hours to get to a hospital or to get to a hospital as they will die in 5 hours. Holy shit, could you imagine waking up in a bathtub all cut up missing a kidney with a note there on top of you saying get your ass to the hospital and having no clue what happened.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/robbery/kidney.asp

[Monger#77]

If I ever go anywhere that I must order a drink in order to stay, I guess I simply will order but not drink it. And the old rule not to walk away from your drink is key here, cause thats the main way the black hooker said she drugs people.

Then there is the mysterious "swipe" she uses to drug people. I guess I will just watch out for African prostitutas.

[Ricker]

Everyone traveling to Colombia should be aware of the dangers of Scopolamine / Burundanga.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine
The below video offers several first hand accounts of people who have been drugged, who do the drugging, etc.

http://www.vbs.tv/player.php?bctid=1...YwNF9fTkVXUw==

I have a buddy who was drugged several years ago.
In Bogota.

Kept him drugged for several days to drain his atm account until some sort of credit card security kicked in to suspend his account.

He woke up he said, in a raunchy room of some sort, in the middle of nowhere. A couple days later.

He won't return to Colombia.

Be careful.

[Kukulkan]

Can any body give me some information about Isla Palma, near Rosario Island and Cartagena, Please.

Thank's Guy's

Kukulkan

[Sailor2006]

Ok , can anybody give me and phone number and address of a good Colombian lawyer, possible with good english skills?

Thank you

[Oliver 0205]

You watched the video, right? There was a part in the video where it said some people wake up in the bathtub with an organ missing with a note on top of them saying they have 5 hours to get to a hospital or to get to a hospital as they will die in 5 hours. Holy shit, could you imagine waking up in a bathtub all cut up missing a kidney with a note there on top of you saying get your ass to the hospital and having no clue what happened.

It might be that maybe once something like this happened, but I wouldnt overestimate these "Infos". We had the same in Europe in the late 70's in the Netherlands. There have been also news about tourists visiting one of the famous coffee shops and after that waking up on a small street with a kidney missing. These stories are part of the urban legends can be found in the Internet like the Bonsai kitten.

Why should people do this in Colombia? Don't they have a much more easy and well organized way in making money by trading cocaine or this Scopolamine / Burundanga itself? Even if there are things like this going on, why should they do it with foreigners or tourists? Wouldn't it be easier to kidnap local people from the poor areas? It happens often enough that the just disappear because they just leave their families or are going to the big cities to make money.

With foreigners they take the risk that they are there with friends or family. That the things happened become public worldwide and that again gives a bad touch to Colombia.

[Winner71]

you watched the video, right? there was a part in the video where it said some people wake up in the bathtub with an organ missing with a note on top of them saying they have 5 hours to get to a hospital or to get to a hospital as they will die in 5 hours. holy shit, could you imagine waking up in a bathtub all cut up missing a kidney with a note there on top of you saying get your ass to the hospital and having no clue what happened.

the sad part is, this is the scary part of colombia. this drug does exist and it's not like it's uncommon. i read, here i think, that one can compare the chances of getting drugged about as great as one getting sequestered (kidnapped). i think that is false. your chances of getting drugged are much greater than your chances of getting kidnapped.

there are many reasons why this is true... and i would say that regarding the folks on this board... it is especially much more likely to get drugged than to get kidnapped... actually they could both happen at the same time, probably just drugged though.

holy shit. my girl has been telling me the stories..but they are interlaced with bullcrap like the missing organs so i kind of dismissed them. many countries have girls that use date [CodeWord123] drugs, but this scopolamine is seriously bad stuff.

thanks. everyone should take the time to watch that excellent video. it is an eye opener..especially the part where the putana talks about all the people she has drugged with it, and of course the guy who retaliated and killed the prostitutes who drugged him and killed his friend.

thanks for the vid link.

[Oliver 0205]

I am in the same situation as you. I met my girlfriend last year and she just proposed to me last month during the Flower Festival in Medellin. What are the required documents for a civil marriage between a foreigner and a Colombian national? I guess a birth certificate is one document, but what are the others.

Hi,

To marry her in Colombia I need to bring a certificate from Germany which is called "Ehefähigkeitszeugnis" This confirms that I am old enough, that I am currently Single and these things. The problem is, for this certificate I need to show here in Germany first a birth certificate, a registration card and a declaration from her that she is currently not married. The birth certificate needs to be with an Apostille and the declaration she has to made at a notary. The Apostille you only can get at the Ministry of foreign Affairs in Bogota. Of course it has to be translated then in to german. For my visit there from Saturday on we will try to get all these things. I take them back with me to Germany, will arrange my documents and then again to Colombia to marry her. Then she has to go with the certificate of marriage (also translated to german) to the german embassy to get a Visa. You see, all very easy.

Oliver

[Member #3437]

holy shit. my girl has been telling me the stories..but they are interlaced with bullcrap like the missing organs so i kind of dismissed them. many countries have girls that use date [CodeWord123] drugs, but this scopolamine is seriously bad stuff.

thanks. everyone should take the time to watch that excellent video. it is an eye opener..especially the part where the putana talks about all the people she has drugged with it, and of course the guy who retaliated and killed the prostitutes who drugged him and killed his friend.

thanks for the vid link.

everyone traveling to colombia should be aware of the dangers of scopolamine / burundanga.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/scopolamine
the below video offers several first hand accounts of people who have been drugged, who do the drugging, etc.

http://www.vbs.tv/player.php?bctid=1...ywnf9ftkvxuw==

[AddictedToWomen]

I am in the same situation as you. I met my girlfriend last year and she just proposed to me last month during the Flower Festival in Medellin. What are the required documents for a civil marriage between a foreigner and a Colombian national? I guess a birth certificate is one document, but what are the others.

What's your visa for Colombia? You can't get married on a tourist visa, you need a special one. There used to be some rule about minimum in-country time too, but that seems to be widely ignored.

[Sun Devil]

I have to arrange with my colombian girlfriend a lot of documents for our marriage.

This is how it can go: Met her first time nearly 1 year ago and now we speak about to marry.

I am in the same situation as you. I met my girlfriend last year and she just proposed to me last month during the Flower Festival in Medellin. What are the required documents for a civil marriage between a foreigner and a Colombian national? I guess a birth certificate is one document, but what are the others.

[Jon32]

La Zona Modelos is out of Cali, Colombia.

So they get girls from all over south america?

[Wanderer1000]

Bonhead,

Thanks for the documentary link. I've heard about this stuff many times, as I'm sure others have. This is scary stuff. I don't know how you'd really guard yourself from this type of attack if somebody really wants to target you - maybe make sure you go out with several friends when you hit a club? But when you're on your own -- I feel more vulnerable now.

The upside is, I haven't met or read about anybody being victimized by this stuff. Maybe it's like kidnappings and other crimes - if you take reasonable precautions, you most likely will never be a victim of this drug.