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[Nypher]

I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.

I have a little over 10 years on you and been doing this traveling thing for over 10 years and I'm certain there are members on this forum that have 10,20 maybe even 30 years more than me and still going strong in the travelling game. Listen to them and take it all in to see where things are going before you get to that point.

As at LatinaLover said, the most important thing is that you must speak the same language. The chica will want to take you home and show you off to her family as you are the big catch to make her life easier. If you cannot communicate with her mom, aunts or grandmother it will be difficult as those are the ones you will have to impress and Latin culture is all about family, we are talking multiple generations under 1 roof.

You will have to move to her country, do not bring them to yours because once they realize you aren't anything special and there are better options for them because they outclass all other women around them with their natural beauty, or getting lots of attention from other men they will leave you. If you don't move there you run the risk of just being the gringo boyfriend who only sees her a few times a year and she will get lonely when all her friends are out with their boyfriends posting instagram pictures, etc causing her to get a local boyfriend. Remember in her country she's a dime a dozen, in your country she's in high demand. If you have a remote job that you can do overseas for months at a time, this may work.

Get away from paid services and talk to local girls who have normal jobs. They might still do sex work on the side once in a while when they need the new iPhone with 3 cameras, or need a new fridge, or washing machine, or big hospital bill for mom, but they do not depend on it to survive (don't ask them, and you may have to overlook it if you encounter it). If they ask you for money on the first date you know where its going.

You can fall into that small percentage that it will work but I do not know anyone personally that has made this work. The most I've seen it last was about 3 years but the back and forth travelling became too much time consuming as the years went on and either she found someone closer willing to live there or he found someone local to him.

Either way you are still very young so good luck with whatever choice you make.

[Nypher]

What's a blackpiller and redpiller?

Blue Pill = They still believe the fairytale they were told growing up and happily ever after is real. Think of the gringo who believes he has a Colombian girlfriend who stopped being a working girl to be his girlfriend as long as the gringo sends her support money every month and when he visits the 2 weeks every few months they will be together as a couple.

Red Pill = Free thinking and able to see that most of what they were told was a lie. Think of the gringo who comes to Colombia and knows the girl he's fucking has a gringo boyfriend from America, Europe, and England all sending her support money every month while she still have a local Colombian boyfriend living with her off of the gringos money and she still continues to be a working girl. I know many like this in CTG, and DR. The chicas are even so bold to have the boyfriend drop them off at your place and pick them up after you finish. So that taxi driver where she was sitting in the front seat? Think twice about it and accept the truth.

Purple Pill = When the blue pill believes in the fairytale but starts to see the truth of the wife just want to use him as a retirement plan so he rides the border accepting the truth and the lies depending on the day.

Black Pill = Nothing in life matters and there is nothing you can do to change it. Things will always be this way and there is no changing them. Think of the phrase "you can't turn a hoe into a house wife". "They will only see you as a walking ATM." "If you can't get this type of girl where your from what makes you think she cares because your a foreigner."

Red Pill Rage = My favourite! When the blue pill realizes they been living a lie and it all comes crashing down to where they are forced to accept the truth they go into deep rage of everything is a lie. Think of paternity fraud where a wife gets pregnant outside the marriage and the husband raises the child as his own not knowing it's not his. Then one day something is wrong with the child and it has a genetic disorder but it doesn't run in the husbands family or the wives family so a DNA test is done and he finds out he's been raising that child for 18 years and it's not his. Very high percentage of men out there raising kids that aren't theirs.

[Mtndew704]

I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.

What's a blackpiller and redpiller?

[Mr Enternational]

I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.

It is simple. If you.

Meet a hooker then it is P4P. If you meet a normal chick then you can have a normal relationship. How could you not want to be a walking ATM if you would not mind a seeking type arrangement? You understand the premise is the same give money-get pussy relationship as any other P4P? Show up to a seeking type relationship without money and see what you get.

[JjBee62]

I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.

How successful are you at finding STR in the US? If you aren't finding it easy at home, it will be extremely difficult in Colombia.

You'll have more difficulty regardless. Unless you put yourself in the middle of a middle class or better neighborhood and go native, most of the girls you meet will be from low income families. The good news is that those are the ones most likely to be interested in a STR with a gringo. The bad news is they expect payment.

The middle and upper class girls won't expect payment, but they are less likely to go for a 1 night stand, or a short affair.

[LatinaLover#1]

I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.

Having been to most Countries in South and Central American countries for more years than I care to remember, it's very possible to be in a regular relationship BUT the odds are not in your favor. I had 2 serious relationships in Brazil out of maybe 100 different women I have met. An 8 year relationship with a Tica, again out of many many women. 2 very serious ones in Colombia. Currently engaged to a STEM major in the Nat'l University who has never been prepago, in fact I'm not sure she even knows what that is. Jaja. The other is now a Chef in Paris.

2 absolutes are required.

You both need to speak the same language fluently, either both speak English or Spanish, better Espanole so you can interact with her family, a very important part of a serious deal.

The other is you both need to live in the same country, or at the very least she needs a 10 year visa so you can alternate visiting each other every month or so. I don't recomend trying this with a prepago, there are some successful relationships like this but very, very few. Too many built in problems with that deal. If you really want to try this, don't go to SF, or escort web sites, instead, live in Colombia, go to a language school and meet some normal women, join a gym, etc. If you fall in love with a working girl you will be falling in love by yourself. Good luck.

[DigLicker]

I am a 23 year old from the states. I have heard mixed accounts from people with regards to dating colombianas. Is it strictly P4P or is there a chance for having a str with a colombian? I wouldn't mind a seeking type arrangement but I also don't want to be a walking ATM at the same time. Very different accounts from the blackpillers and the redpillers. I also am learning spanish.

[Zeos1]

VERY Important. If you plan to return to Colombia ensure that your phone is registered. You may receive some texts on this a week or so after you start using in Colombia To do this you need a Colombian Cedula (or someone elses) as a passport won't work. I bought a cheap unblocked Samsung S9 in the states, used it in Colombia for 2 weeks and it was blocked while I was back in the states as I was unable to register it. When I returned to Colombia took me a day and a lot of time to get the issue resolved, including going the man Claro store to have my device unblocked and then to a computer store to have my phone hacked and bands opened up again. I do not recommend so make sure it's registered!

If you get your SIM at a full service Claro store they will properly register it, etc. As he said, you need your passport. But if you were to buy a SIM on the street if it functions that means it is already registered to someone else, or will need to be registered in the next couple of weeks. Perhaps with that scenario the website will not accept a passport ID, I don't know. But yes, be sure it is registered. It is the PHONE that needs to be registered with a valid Colombian number, or the next time you come you won't be able to use that phone for anything, with any company or any number.

[Chicago85]

From the US prospective.

1) Get Google Fi.

2) If you have T-Moble plan such as Magenta, you get internet services in many countries including Colombia. Problem is that it is limited and it's 3 G.

3) Pay high fees and pay for roaming from Verizon and other providers.

4) Get local SIM when you exit the international baggage area in Bogota airport. It is the first store you see. But the price is very expensive. You know the price is expensive because it is priced in US dollars. Lowest level was about US $20 for a few gigs; price was about double for about a quarter of what you can get with Claro.

5) Best option (for value): get pre-paid plan with Claro (or with other providers). Problem is that it's somewhat inconvenient since you can't get it at the airport.

This is what I always do. I go to the Andino Mall (or go to any OFFICIAL Claro store). They have a big, official Claro store on the second level. They have great customer service that will help you. I get the pre-paid package of 40 mil. You get 12 gigs and unlimited phone and text for 30 days. They have other packages which are cheaper. SIM is 3 mil. You need a passport. A copy of my passport has always been accepted.

VERY Important. If you plan to return to Colombia ensure that your phone is registered. You may receive some texts on this a week or so after you start using in Colombia To do this you need a Colombian Cedula (or someone elses) as a passport won't work. I bought a cheap unblocked Samsung S9 in the states, used it in Colombia for 2 weeks and it was blocked while I was back in the states as I was unable to register it. When I returned to Colombia took me a day and a lot of time to get the issue resolved, including going the man Claro store to have my device unblocked and then to a computer store to have my phone hacked and bands opened up again. I do not recommend so make sure it's registered!

[Chicago85]

Tourists can only stay in Colombia for 6 months total in any calendar year (Jan 1 to Dec 31). If I land September 1, 2022 and stay 3 months I will get an online extension to cover the December 1 to December 31 time frame. Now in 2023, I get another 3 months with 3 month extension.

But do I have to leave the country too since the new calendar year started my new 6 months stay?

If "yes", do I have to leave Colombia at the end of 2022 or leave and come back quickly the first few days or weeks in January 2023?

Does the Colombian government allow me to leave and return in the same day (same day visa run)?

Check out the Gringo Paisa Medellin Facebook Group and do a search in the upper right side of the page. There are quite a few threads on this same scenario.

[GringoTigre]

From the US prospective.
This is what I always do. I go to the Andino Mall (or go to any OFFICIAL Claro store). They have a big, official Claro store on the second level. They have great customer service that will help you. I get the pre-paid package of 40 mil. You get 12 gigs and unlimited phone and text for 30 days. They have other packages which are cheaper. SIM is 3 mil. You need a passport. A copy of my passport has always been accepted.

Overall, this is an outstanding post. A few tweaks.

Go to a company store: This is true for all carriers. And in all countries, not just Colombia. However, in Colombia you need only visit the company store to get your sim and pay your first month as prepago. If you run out of data or more than 30 days, then you can get a refill in many many tiendas. Rates are the same, just pay the cash and wait in the store about a minute to get the text confirmation that the payment went thru. This is a pro-tip for anyone spending time outside of major cities where there are no company stores!

The Andino store is good, but it isn't a full customer service store it's Claro Tech. There to sell equipment and do basic stuff. If you have something more complicated, you need to be at a full Claro store like the one on 15th near parque 93.

Depending on how much time you spend in locumbia, you may want to choose between the prepago and postpago. Novia tells me I can only do prepago with claro, but she is just trying to be humorous. Postpago got more complicated late last year.

In terms of Claro, Movistar, and everyone else. Claro has the best coverage by far throughout the country and in the cities.

"Everyone else" can be a little cheaper but you can hit issues with coverage and not being able to easily refill.

If you leave and come back to Colombia frequently and have a need to keep the same number for whatever reason (incl Whatsapp), then you may get your number released if you are out of country too long. Claro couldn't explain to me. Maybe someone here knows for sure?

[GringoTigre]

Tourists can only stay in Colombia for 6 months total in any calendar year (Jan 1 to Dec 31). If I land September 1, 2022 and stay 3 months I will get an online extension to cover the December 1 to December 31 time frame. Now in 2023, I get another 3 months with 3 month extension.

But do I have to leave the country too since the new calendar year started my new 6 months stay?

If "yes", do I have to leave Colombia at the end of 2022 or leave and come back quickly the first few days or weeks in January 2023?

Does the Colombian government allow me to leave and return in the same day (same day visa run)?

Read this:

https://expatgroup.co/english/expats...tourist-stamp/

And also read the long details at migracion Colombia website.

[LoveItHere69]

Tourists can only stay in Colombia for 6 months total in any calendar year (Jan 1 to Dec 31). If I land September 1, 2022 and stay 3 months I will get an online extension to cover the December 1 to December 31 time frame. Now in 2023, I get another 3 months with 3 month extension.

But do I have to leave the country too since the new calendar year started my new 6 months stay?

If "yes", do I have to leave Colombia at the end of 2022 or leave and come back quickly the first few days or weeks in January 2023?

Does the Colombian government allow me to leave and return in the same day (same day visa run)?

[JjBee62]

Just a reminder, Sunday is an election day. All alcohol sales are prohibited between 4 pm Saturday and noon on Monday. Plan accordingly.

Also, the Metro and Transmilenio in Bogota, are free all day Sunday. There will be a lot more passengers than a normal Sunday.

[GreenBud]

From the US prospective.

1) Get Google Fi.

2) If you have T-Moble plan such as Magenta, you get internet services in many countries including Colombia. Problem is that it is limited and it's 3 G.

3) Pay high fees and pay for roaming from Verizon and other providers.

4) Get local SIM when you exit the international baggage area in Bogota airport. It is the first store you see. But the price is very expensive. You know the price is expensive because it is priced in US dollars. Lowest level was about US $20 for a few gigs; price was about double for about a quarter of what you can get with Claro.

5) Best option (for value): get pre-paid plan with Claro (or with other providers). Problem is that it's somewhat inconvenient since you can't get it at the airport.

Warning: You can get ripped off. I got scammed. I should have known.

I did something new. I went to a store west of Santa Fe. It was on the second level with a Claro sign. I thought it was an official Claro store, but it was just a Claro payment center. Inside, a few people pretend to be to Claro employees. They have Claro shirts. Those MFers! I attempted to get Claro service. But they said that foreign phones are not allowed to get Claro service. That is a fuckin LIE. They want to sell you their phones. They even took my passport and pretended to check their computers. They have an act. That place scam foreigners.

Not sure why I did this, but I paid for a SIM card from them. Got charged 10 mil. Another scam. Price is 3 mil at the Claro store. Then I loaded the 40 mil package. It didn't work. Only got the unlimited social apps enabled. Internet, text, and phone did not work. Later I was told it was because the SIM card was "not unauthorized".

Here are the facts. SIM cards you get from the street has to be registered with a local ID. It can work IF the seller adds an authorized ID. But be careful if you use this option. I remember a poster saying his credits got erased, probably after the seller reported it lost.

This is what I always do. I go to the Andino Mall (or go to any OFFICIAL Claro store). They have a big, official Claro store on the second level. They have great customer service that will help you. I get the pre-paid package of 40 mil. You get 12 gigs and unlimited phone and text for 30 days. They have other packages which are cheaper. SIM is 3 mil. You need a passport. A copy of my passport has always been accepted.