Bogota Reports

[AddictedToWomen]

I received a tweet from Viviana....

I went there one Tuesday last month, must admit I was a bit disappointed. The decor is rather dated and not in best condition and my twin Colombian beête noires -- plastic furniture and concrete -- is all over the place. My masajista wasn't comfortable with public fucking, think it might have been her first time working there. Every time I went to fuck a bunch of guys would appear from nowhere and be quite in our faces even though she wasn't responding to them. Only one couple, rather on plus size, and very few girls. Bit of a damp squib of an evening I'd have to say. I'd try it again, I guess, just in case I hit a poor night, but it's nothing like the warm vibe you get at swinger clubs in the US.

[JjBee62]

It is a recipe for disaster, I have thought it through and it is going to suck, my girlfriend is not ugly by any means, but she is not as hot or has the body type like many Colombians. Just thinking my girlfriend is a skinny ass barely no tits or ass girl and I can already see the future of her being so insecure and jealous when she will see all the chicas over there with nice silicon asses and tits, women with great proportionate body, which yeah she probably will love in a sexual sense but not when they become all friendly and feminine and flirtatious to me because that is how the culture is there, l see that is going to be a cultural shock to her that she may not be too fond of, especially since she will have the language barrier and thus the chicas over there will probably only be communicating with me, thus more reason my girl might feel more like shit. Goddammit should have thought of all these scenarios before I opened my fucking mouth.

You can't unsay what's been said. Currently, the only thing in your favor is the 2 girls aren't friendly.

You can break up with her and postpone the trip, until she's completely out of your life. Or at least far enough out that she won't know about it. She still could say something, but now it's coming from a jealous ex, "crazy ***** will say anything. ".

You can change your rules. Your current rules, she gets no other dick, you and her only get other pussy together and she controls how much you get, aren't really fair to anyone. Go in the direction of full swinging.

Swinging is too broad of a term. There are a lot of variations. From mild to wild, here they are:

Girls play. Just like it sounds the girls make out, and go as far together as they want, the guys watch and participate only with their own girl.

Same room sex. Which is the next step. You end up with 2 or more couples, all having sex in the same room, often on the same bed.

Soft swap. Guys and girls play together, both guys play with both girls, but only penetration with your own girl.

Same room swap. After all the other stuff, penetration with other girls is allowed, but only together, only in the same room. This is also called Full swap.

Separate room swap. This can range from just switching girls and going to separate bedrooms, to switching girls and going on separate vacations.

Most swingers work up to full swap and stay there.

If your girl is more hetero, then she wants other dick, just like you want other pussy. She probably won't tell you she wants other dick, but unless you're the world's greatest lover, she would like some variety.

Swingers, as a group, tend to be less judgemental. It's more about the sex than having the perfect body. You'll find your own comfort zone, but you're unlikely to find people who will try to make either of you feel inferior. There are all types. I've seen a couple in their 70's fucking at the bar in a swingers club, I've seen couples that looked like Sumo wrestlers. I've seen couples in their 20's swapping with a couple in their late 50's.

Jealousy becomes less of an issue, because you're both getting more and better sex.

Of course, swinging requires more maturity and a strong commitment. It can cause breakups. On the plus side, if there is a breakup, all the swinging is never mentioned again.

If you take that route, you'll just have to figure out whether to split time swinging and being with your friend, or to bring him to a swingers club on a night when single guys are allowed. It will eliminate any worries about her blabbing to anyone.

Or, you can take her along and realize that you're not going to get everything you want. Your Spanish skills will help. You can explain clearly what you expect and that satisfying your girl is first priority. You don't get unlimited fucking with hot chicks, but you do get something out of it, and you'll probably spend less money.

You can go as planned without her. There's no way that ends well. You just have to ride it out and probably replace all the things she breaks or rips up.

Or you can cancel the trip. Which doesn't resolve anything. She can still say something.

You're right. You shouldn't have said anything, other than telling her you had committed to the trip before you met her. I still say the best bet, under the current rules, is take her, and do your best to keep her face buried in Colombian pussy. A few photos for future leverage might also help.

[CPlusPlus]

It is a recipe for disaster, I have thought it through and it is going to suck, my girlfriend is not ugly by any means, but she is not as hot or has the body type like many Colombians. Just thinking my girlfriend is a skinny ass barely no tits or ass girl and I can already see the future of her being so insecure and jealous when she will see all the chicas over there with nice silicon asses and tits, women with great proportionate body, which yeah she probably will love in a sexual sense but not when they become all friendly and feminine and flirtatious to me because that is how the culture is there, l see that is going to be a cultural shock to her that she may not be too fond of, especially since she will have the language barrier and thus the chicas over there will probably only be communicating with me, thus more reason my girl might feel more like shit. Goddammit should have thought of all these scenarios before I opened my fucking mouth.

[CPlusPlus]

It has been already 5 days since I spilled the beans about the situation, and it seems that is not resolving, basically like Shadow said, my friend is very paranoid and does not trust my girl, and as a matter of fact I am second guessing and thinking it through if I actually made the right decision with telling her the whole story, but I felt like I had to because she told me she had desires of traveling there anyways even before mentioning the perverted intentions of the trip (his GF on the other hand is not too interested and has a lot more to do here, her career school etc etc) And I was thinking too maybe its not going to end well, first off yes I have had a couple of threesomes with my partner here, and honestly they have not been the best threesomes I have had, even tho in my first post I sounded like it was the greatest thing ever, I remember the 1st one was with a lesbian friend she had, she actually was in love with my GF, but my GF did not reciprocate the feelings and she would join us and actually deal with me just to be with her, very super mechanical sex with that lesbian girl and she honestly hates and envies the living hell out of me, so those occasions were super awkward and uncomfortable (my GF was tired of how jealous and possessive she was trying to be so she told her to get the hell out of our lives LOL) then it happen again with another friend of her's, she was bisexual, but her lesbianism was stronger than her heteronism, unlike my GF who is more hetero than lesbian but still has a lesbian desire, with her it was a thing where my GF made the rules, I could only act according the way my GF wanted, if she did not feel comfortable or if she felt her friend was being to flirtatious with me she would stop it or make it mechanical, my GF is selfish now that I think about it and honestly I can see her get mad the moment a Working girl over there might focus more attention to me than her, and unfortunately with the rules me and her set up for the relationship I don't have much to say (rules are my my girlfriend cannot have sex with another man at all, she agreed then Rule 2# is that I obviously cannot be with another girl by myself, nor without her knowledge. I can only fuck another girl in the condition that we can share it and it has to be of her choosing and she decides and controls how the sexual situation goes).

Like I reiterated, I see a problem as to where this will go, she knows no Spanish for shit, so she cannot communicate with the chicas thus will not be able to control the sexual situation to her liking, and with that said there are more chances the chicas will focus more on me than the non Spanish speaking gringa and it will cause my GF to be super jealous and go crazy, especially since my GF likes to smoke weed and drink and obviously she will smoke a shit load while over there since its cheap so I am afraid she might act psycho in a situation gone bad, at the end of the day she might sexually liberal but she still a woman and they are unfortunately complicate creatures, even with this honest and cutthroat relationship me and her have, then of course it goes the situation where I can't be for sure she would not tell my friend GF about the situation, which again I regret telling my GF because now I am not sure what the future holds, maybe one day my GF and my friend fight and my GF acts like a * and retaliates by snitching, BTW my GF and his GF have no sort of communication nor are they close friends, they know each other but honestly my friend GR is not to fond of my GF and they don't talk at all, two totally different women, my friends girl is a very brazen, independent self righteous bitchy woman, but very clever and ingenious, the kind of woman you would want as a daughter minus the part that she is with a lying cheating boyfriend, my girlfriend is more of a one day at a time girlfriend, a lot more calm and mellow and liberal, smokes pot and drinks often and is not as formal / mature nor as clever or independent than my friend GF.

Let see how this plays out, I believe now with close analyzation I probably fucked up by being honest, even tho my relationship with her is all based on honesty but I did not meant to jeopardize my friends relationship nor have him be collateral damage, I think there could be a chance that there will be no Colombia trip and kind of let it go, or we could go because I honestly do desire other women even with the rules and stipulations my GF puts but again now the concern goes with how safe is my friend secret with my GF. I want to believe she won't say shit but like you all said when it comes to women you can never know. Again it helps that they have no sort of friendship nor relationship so my GF has no pity nor empathy to their situation, she knows she don't like her nor me so I think low key my GF is gloating and happy at the fact that she knows she is being cheated on. Again I just hope in some future if me and her don't work out she will not use the trip to blackmail my friend.

[JjBee62]

I see your points, and I agree it's somewhat of a selfish move on the friends part.

I don't agree that the stigma / shame of her going into a strip club with her boyfriend would keep a girl like her quiet.

Girl A: "Your boyfriend fucked a bunch of girls when he was with us in Colombia. ".

Girl be: "OMG! Wait. How the hell would you know that?"

Girl A: "I went with them when they went to the strip clubs. He left us at the table and went into a private room with a prostitute and that's what they do there."

Where that falls apart is she will be participating. Her reputation also takes a hit. Most girls have no problem with a bi friend, but they get a little weird when they find out the bi friend is hiring prostitutes. There's a stigma.

Plus she would be going as an accomplice, which torpedoes any friendship she has with buddy's GF. Now that she knows about the trip, the safest thing is to bring her along and keep her satisfied.

[TheShadow2]

I understand where you're coming from, but the buddy isn't reciprocating. If see++ goes along, without the GF, he's going to catch hell even if he doesn't touch another girl. Meanwhile buddy gets to have all the fun he wants.

Perhaps he shouldn't have told his GF, except at some point, she would find out. They always do. In my mind, the safest thing to do is take her along.

It's something I learned in the swing clubs, years ago. Someone new to swinging would worry "what if we run into someone we know?" What can they say? "Me and Fred were at a swingers club last week, Fred was balls deep in this hot redhead, while she was munching on my box and her hubby was blowing a load on my tits, when in walks Nancy and John. I was so disgusted!" Nobody is going to say anything, because they have to incriminate themselves.

Same works with taking the GF along to the clubs and casas. She can't talk about it to anyone without explaining what she was doing in a brothel.

I see your points, and I agree it's somewhat of a selfish move on the friends part.

I don't agree that the stigma / shame of her going into a strip club with her boyfriend would keep a girl like her quiet.

Girl A: "Your boyfriend fucked a bunch of girls when he was with us in Colombia. ".

Girl be: "OMG! Wait. How the hell would you know that?"

Girl A: "I went with them when they went to the strip clubs. He left us at the table and went into a private room with a prostitute and that's what they do there."

[JjBee62]

My point was that his friend is now risking losing his current girlfriend if he goes to Colombia and fucks 20 chicas. He knows his "Bro" won't tell on him, but can he 100% trust that the "Ho" won't someday fill her in? I don't personally know any of the people involved so I can't make that judgement, but if I wanted to maintain the current relationship while having some fun on the side, I err on the side of caution.

I understand where you're coming from, but the buddy isn't reciprocating. If see++ goes along, without the GF, he's going to catch hell even if he doesn't touch another girl. Meanwhile buddy gets to have all the fun he wants.

Perhaps he shouldn't have told his GF, except at some point, she would find out. They always do. In my mind, the safest thing to do is take her along.

It's something I learned in the swing clubs, years ago. Someone new to swinging would worry "what if we run into someone we know?" What can they say? "Me and Fred were at a swingers club last week, Fred was balls deep in this hot redhead, while she was munching on my box and her hubby was blowing a load on my tits, when in walks Nancy and John. I was so disgusted!" Nobody is going to say anything, because they have to incriminate themselves.

Same works with taking the GF along to the clubs and casas. She can't talk about it to anyone without explaining what she was doing in a brothel.

[TheShadow2]

Sounds like you have 2 problems.

First problem is, your buddy is acting like a little *****. Bros before hoes doesn't apply. It looks like you're pretty happy with your current situation. He's asking you to throw it away, because he can't bust a nut without you holding his hand.

If you go without her, it's over. It might take a month or two, but she'll walk. Is your buddy going to bring his girl over and blow you while she sits on your face?

If you try to leave your girlfriend in the hotel while you hit the casas with your buddy, you're going to have a highly pissed off girl.

There are compromises, but first your buddy needs to remove his tampon.

You're not going to be fucking 24/7. There's plenty of stuff to do in the daytime where the 3 of you can hang out. You can even hit one of the northern clubs or Pussy House, or La 49 as a group. Having your girl along might give him a better selection of girls. It's something different and women are curious. If he takes one to a room, you're not sitting bored waiting. If he wants to pull one for all night, you're not a 3rd wheel and if your girl can handle Spanish, he's more likely to get a better GFE. It's a competition thing.

It also opens up another opportunity for him. Two guys sitting in a bar isn't going to attract attention from women. One woman won't feel comfortable, she's outnumbered by strangers. Two women won't feel comfortable because it's an obvious hookup. But 2 guys, 1 girl is just social. It's safe. Getting another girl to join is easier, especially if your girl does the asking.

The only downside for him, he doesn't get to be alone with you.

The other problem shouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't take her slumming in Santa Fe, but you shouldn't have issues from Chapinero north. Take her to one of the northern spas and get a couples massage, or get her a 4 hand massage.

Swing clubs should also be no problem. Can't speak for Colombia, but US clubs, the women run the show. If a guy approaches, politely send him away. If a couple approaches, tell them your rules. Just stick with what you're comfortable with.

Good luck.

My point was that his friend is now risking losing his current girlfriend if he goes to Colombia and fucks 20 chicas. He knows his "Bro" won't tell on him, but can he 100% trust that the "Ho" won't someday fill her in? I don't personally know any of the people involved so I can't make that judgement, but if I wanted to maintain the current relationship while having some fun on the side, I err on the side of caution.

[Zippy]

Now with that being said, assuming all goes well, and I take my bisexual girlfriend over there to Bogota, I was thinking are regular civilian women even allow to go to the casas and the strip joints? I mean here in the states women can go to strip clubs and have a drink and get a lap dance, but now that I think about it all the times I have been to Colombia I have never seen actual women customers in the brothels, I assume its probably because of machismo, so like my question for the veterans is can I take my gringa girlfriend to lets say Fiebre atunes casas in el chapinero etc etc LOL? And if yes do you think that there will be respect for her I mean I don't want dudes approaching her asking "cuanto cobra" and what not since she is not a working girl and she is there as my partner, plus how would that work assuming I take her and she picked a girl for me and her to fuck? Is there an upcharge, or most likely we would have to pay for 2 services for per session since is me and her, and would a lot of working girls be open about that LOL? Swing clubs I know we could do ok, even tho we have not done such a thing yet and I don't want to share her I kindly want to do swing club just so she can have another woman and also for the voyeurism, she and I enjoy being watched getting fucked, but again I don't want to share her so I am reluctant with swinger clubs. So yeah that's it basically, also do you all believe my close friend has the right to feel the way he feels? I mean yeah I probably would spend some extra time with her but he should compromise I think idk that's what I feel, but lets see hopefully I can still go next month all good, friend is happy girlfriend is happy and I am happy, and my friends girlfriend all clueless LOL.

CPlus- you will have no problems going with your novia to any strip clubs of salons in Bogota. I live here and my Colombian novia is bisexual and we go a couple times a month with no problems. And you won't even be much of a novelty as I have seen other couple looking for a 3-some as well on occasion. So go have fun!

[Routard]

O I are very open and honest, I am the cutthroat honest motherfucker who says things how it is and tries not to sugarcoat the truth, and actually there is no need to she is very sexually open minded plus she is bisexual, we have already had threesomes here in the states with other women since she also has a sexual need for women but says she could never be romantically or emotionally in love with one LOL its all a sexual thing for her she still trusts me and what not, of course if you all ever been in that situation you all know that when you do a threesome with a significant other you cannot put so much feeling or desire on the third partner as to not hurt her feelings or cause jealousy, so it is definitely a lot different then a threesome you might have with two random hookers or swingers. OK so since me and my girlfriend have this kind of relationship I told her straight up the whole deal and that me and my friend had planned this since before we hooked up, I told her that and everything and as to why my friend is going and that we cannot tell his Girlfriend and bla bla and I knew this was coming but she said she wants to go too! LOL that she loves Latin woman and that she would fucking love to do putitours with me, go to swinger clubs go and travel and meet people and go to a different country etc etc all happy with the idea (BTW she is an American girlfriend, typical blond blue eyes pale gringa LOL but she has an Achilles heel that she loves pussy as much as she loves my dick LOL, works perfect for me) The idea of her going with me actually turns me on, having my cake and eating at the same time, as well as taking someone over there who I care for and would love to spend time with not just in the sexual sense but also in traveling and what not..

I am living her and have the same relationship with my girlfriend. Only difference, with your couple, I'm the gringo type and she is the Latina type, LOL! I confirm, there is no problem to hit the clubs with her, you can see it quiet often here that guys go with her novias in clubs for threesomes. I have been with my novia to different clubs, but also swing clubs. It doesn't mean that others guy will bang your girl friend because it's a swing club, my novia also doesn't fuck with other guys.

I understand that your friend is pissed off. I have been to clubs with my novia and other single buddy. My novia just doesn't care if the other guy goes and fuck hookers. It all depends of attitude of your novia, especially if she knows your buddies' girl friend. I believe you have to clear it out with your girlfriend before and explain it to your buddie that there would be no problem.

Regarding your technical questions, we never met hookers that refuse threesome. Some however would only interract with you, most have no problem with bisexual interraction. Some charge double, some even don't. Once I was even ruled out, both girls had so much fun that they just forgot me, lol! We have never been refused entrance to a club and never had to face disrespectful behavior of other guests. Only once in a swing club a guy was pissed off because I was fucking his wife while he couldn't fuck mine lol! But hey, these as the rules of swing clubs, mutual respect, anything might but nothing should. You should definitvely try a swing club, actually in Bogota it's more about voyeurism, feeling free to fuck your girl friend in a place were other people are fucking also, bisexual interraction between the women while couples are fucking, but very few share their novia with other dudes.

Just let me know when you are here, we could go out all together!

[JjBee62]

OK, so I am in a slight predicament, it is all my fault tho I did set myself up for failure fuck it sucks LOL. OK so first off, me and A close friend of mine we were planning to go to Bogota for a get away right now in February, but both of us have girlfriends here in the US, my relationship with my Girlfriend is totally different than his, he is very cunning / deceiving and what not, his girlfriend does not suspect or is aware of his mongering intentions when he leaves the country, luckily he uses the "visiting family" excuse since he is from Colombia (I am Hispanic too but I am not from Colombia) so he can go and do whatever, well with my current Girlfriend And I are very open and honest, I am the cutthroat honest motherfucker who says things how it is and tries not to sugarcoat the truth, and actually there is no need to she is very sexually open minded plus she is bisexual, we have already had threesomes here in the states with other women since she also has a sexual need for women but says she could never be romantically or emotionally in love with one LOL its all a sexual thing for her she still trusts me and what not, of course if you all ever been in that situation you all know that when you do a threesome with a significant other you cannot put so much feeling or desire on the third partner as to not hurt her feelings or cause jealousy, so it is definitely a lot different then a threesome you might have with two random hookers or swingers. OK so since me and my girlfriend have this kind of relationship I told her straight up the whole deal and that me and my friend had planned this since before we hooked up, I told her that and everything and as to why my friend is going and that we cannot tell his Girlfriend and bla bla and I knew this was coming but she said she wants to go too! LOL that she loves Latin woman and that she would fucking love to do putitours with me, go to swinger clubs go and travel and meet people and go to a different country etc etc all happy with the idea (BTW she is an American girlfriend, typical blond blue eyes pale gringa LOL but she has an Achilles heel that she loves pussy as much as she loves my dick LOL, works perfect for me) The idea of her going with me actually turns me on, having my cake and eating at the same time, as well as taking someone over there who I care for and would love to spend time with not just in the sexual sense but also in traveling and what not. So that worked out well with her, but that does not sit well with my close friend, when I told him about it he got on my fucking case, saying that if I brought my Girlfriend it will ruin the whole fucking trip, that I better not spend more time with her than with him, that this was supposed to be a bro trip, so like he was acting like a jealous girlfriend I actually laughed at the fact that he got that way and he got pissed, so like now there is this resentment going on prior to our trip, I feel like honestly he is jealous at the fact that I can have a girlfriend who is willing to go with me and do shit like that with me and in his situation he has to lie deceive and what not and does not have that for him, so I feel his resentment now, I hope he changes plus honestly I do owe him for a favor in the past, but if worst comes to it and he can't understand I will refund my ticket since I already purchased them and no fucking trip to Bogota, I am not going to put one over the other I don't care if I lose my money I told him I will reimburse his ticket and shit if we cannot work this out.

Now with that being said, assuming all goes well, and I take my bisexual girlfriend over there to Bogota, I was thinking are regular civilian women even allow to go to the casas and the strip joints? I mean here in the states women can go to strip clubs and have a drink and get a lap dance, but now that I think about it all the times I have been to Colombia I have never seen actual women customers in the brothels, I assume its probably because of machismo, so like my question for the veterans is can I take my gringa girlfriend to lets say Fiebre atunes casas in el chapinero etc etc LOL? And if yes do you think that there will be respect for her I mean I don't want dudes approaching her asking "cuanto cobra" and what not since she is not a working girl and she is there as my partner, plus how would that work assuming I take her and she picked a girl for me and her to fuck? Is there an upcharge, or most likely we would have to pay for 2 services for per session since is me and her, and would a lot of working girls be open about that LOL? Swing clubs I know we could do ok, even tho we have not done such a thing yet and I don't want to share her I kindly want to do swing club just so she can have another woman and also for the voyeurism, she and I enjoy being watched getting fucked, but again I don't want to share her so I am reluctant with swinger clubs. So yeah that's it basically, also do you all believe my close friend has the right to feel the way he feels? I mean yeah I probably would spend some extra time with her but he should compromise I think idk that's what I feel, but lets see hopefully I can still go next month all good, friend is happy girlfriend is happy and I am happy, and my friends girlfriend all clueless LOL.

Sounds like you have 2 problems.

First problem is, your buddy is acting like a little *****. Bros before hoes doesn't apply. It looks like you're pretty happy with your current situation. He's asking you to throw it away, because he can't bust a nut without you holding his hand.

If you go without her, it's over. It might take a month or two, but she'll walk. Is your buddy going to bring his girl over and blow you while she sits on your face?

If you try to leave your girlfriend in the hotel while you hit the casas with your buddy, you're going to have a highly pissed off girl.

There are compromises, but first your buddy needs to remove his tampon.

You're not going to be fucking 24/7. There's plenty of stuff to do in the daytime where the 3 of you can hang out. You can even hit one of the northern clubs or Pussy House, or La 49 as a group. Having your girl along might give him a better selection of girls. It's something different and women are curious. If he takes one to a room, you're not sitting bored waiting. If he wants to pull one for all night, you're not a 3rd wheel and if your girl can handle Spanish, he's more likely to get a better GFE. It's a competition thing.

It also opens up another opportunity for him. Two guys sitting in a bar isn't going to attract attention from women. One woman won't feel comfortable, she's outnumbered by strangers. Two women won't feel comfortable because it's an obvious hookup. But 2 guys, 1 girl is just social. It's safe. Getting another girl to join is easier, especially if your girl does the asking.

The only downside for him, he doesn't get to be alone with you.

The other problem shouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't take her slumming in Santa Fe, but you shouldn't have issues from Chapinero north. Take her to one of the northern spas and get a couples massage, or get her a 4 hand massage.

Swing clubs should also be no problem. Can't speak for Colombia, but US clubs, the women run the show. If a guy approaches, politely send him away. If a couple approaches, tell them your rules. Just stick with what you're comfortable with.

Good luck.

[TheShadow2]

OK, so I am in a slight predicament, it is all my fault tho I did set myself up for failure fuck it sucks LOL. OK so first off, me and A close friend of mine we were planning to go to Bogota for a get away right now in February, but both of us have girlfriends here in the US, my relationship with my Girlfriend is totally different than his, he is very cunning / deceiving and what not, his girlfriend does not suspect or is aware of his mongering intentions when he leaves the country, luckily he uses the "visiting family" excuse since he is from Colombia (I am Hispanic too but I am not from Colombia) so he can go and do whatever, well with my current Girlfriend And I are very open and honest, I am the cutthroat honest motherfucker who says things how it is and tries not to sugarcoat the truth, and actually there is no need to she is very sexually open minded plus she is bisexual, we have already had threesomes here in the states with other women since she also has a sexual need for women but says she could never be romantically or emotionally in love with one LOL its all a sexual thing for her she still trusts me and what not, of course if you all ever been in that situation you all know that when you do a threesome with a significant other you cannot put so much feeling or desire on the third partner as to not hurt her feelings or cause jealousy, so it is definitely a lot different then a threesome you might have with two random hookers or swingers. OK so since me and my girlfriend have this kind of relationship I told her straight up the whole deal and that me and my friend had planned this since before we hooked up, I told her that and everything and as to why my friend is going and that we cannot tell his Girlfriend and bla bla and I knew this was coming but she said she wants to go too! LOL that she loves Latin woman and that she would fucking love to do putitours with me, go to swinger clubs go and travel and meet people and go to a different country etc etc all happy with the idea (BTW she is an American girlfriend, typical blond blue eyes pale gringa LOL but she has an Achilles heel that she loves pussy as much as she loves my dick LOL, works perfect for me) The idea of her going with me actually turns me on, having my cake and eating at the same time, as well as taking someone over there who I care for and would love to spend time with not just in the sexual sense but also in traveling and what not. So that worked out well with her, but that does not sit well with my close friend, when I told him about it he got on my fucking case, saying that if I brought my Girlfriend it will ruin the whole fucking trip, that I better not spend more time with her than with him, that this was supposed to be a bro trip, so like he was acting like a jealous girlfriend I actually laughed at the fact that he got that way and he got pissed, so like now there is this resentment going on prior to our trip, I feel like honestly he is jealous at the fact that I can have a girlfriend who is willing to go with me and do shit like that with me and in his situation he has to lie deceive and what not and does not have that for him, so I feel his resentment now, I hope he changes plus honestly I do owe him for a favor in the past, but if worst comes to it and he can't understand I will refund my ticket since I already purchased them and no fucking trip to Bogota, I am not going to put one over the other I don't care if I lose my money I told him I will reimburse his ticket and shit if we cannot work this out.

Now with that being said, assuming all goes well, and I take my bisexual girlfriend over there to Bogota, I was thinking are regular civilian women even allow to go to the casas and the strip joints? I mean here in the states women can go to strip clubs and have a drink and get a lap dance, but now that I think about it all the times I have been to Colombia I have never seen actual women customers in the brothels, I assume its probably because of machismo, so like my question for the veterans is can I take my gringa girlfriend to lets say Fiebre atunes casas in el chapinero etc etc LOL? And if yes do you think that there will be respect for her I mean I don't want dudes approaching her asking "cuanto cobra" and what not since she is not a working girl and she is there as my partner, plus how would that work assuming I take her and she picked a girl for me and her to fuck? Is there an upcharge, or most likely we would have to pay for 2 services for per session since is me and her, and would a lot of working girls be open about that LOL? Swing clubs I know we could do ok, even tho we have not done such a thing yet and I don't want to share her I kindly want to do swing club just so she can have another woman and also for the voyeurism, she and I enjoy being watched getting fucked, but again I don't want to share her so I am reluctant with swinger clubs. So yeah that's it basically, also do you all believe my close friend has the right to feel the way he feels? I mean yeah I probably would spend some extra time with her but he should compromise I think idk that's what I feel, but lets see hopefully I can still go next month all good, friend is happy girlfriend is happy and I am happy, and my friends girlfriend all clueless LOL.

Some quick answers:

Your girl will be welcome in the strip clubs, no one will bat an eye. I used to have a bisexual Colombiana girlfriend, we did it all the time. No guys will hassle your girl, obviously she is with you and there's plenty of available chocha in the club. As to the girls participating in a 3-way, I'd say only about 1 in 3 girls will go that way in my experience. The ones that do will usually charge you double since they are doing two people and money is why they are there. (Double still might be really cheap though.) Casas or swingers clubs we never tried so I can't speak to that.

As to your friend, in a way he's got a reason to be pissed, because you changed the whole idea of the trip 360 degrees when you decided to bring your girl. Yes, a part of him is probably jealous, but still it's a whole different idea than what he signed up for. For one thing he might not feel too comfortable mongering or whatever else in front of your girlfriend, especially when he's cheating on his girl at the same time. Honestly I wouldn't be able to trust her 100% if it was me. As we say "Bros before Ho's", and for all we know women feel the same way about it. (Maybe they say "Chicks before Dicks" LOL)

[Woodman09]

I don't think you would have any problems in the strip clubs- You would be a novelty though.

OK, so I am in a slight predicament, it is all my fault tho I did set myself up for failure fuck it sucks LOL. OK so first off, me and A close friend of mine we were planning to go to Bogota for a get away right now in February, but both of us have girlfriends here in the US, my relationship with my Girlfriend is totally different than his, he is very cunning / deceiving and what not, his girlfriend does not suspect or is aware of his mongering intentions when he leaves the country, luckily he uses the "visiting family" excuse since he is from Colombia (I am Hispanic too but I am not from Colombia) so he can go and do whatever, well with my current Girlfriend And I are very open and honest, I am the cutthroat honest motherfucker who says things how it is and tries not to sugarcoat the truth, and actually there is no need to she is very sexually open minded plus she is bisexual, we have already had threesomes here in the states with other women since she also has a sexual need for women but says she could never be romantically or emotionally in love with one LOL its all a sexual thing for her she still trusts me and what not, of course if you all ever been in that situation you all know that when you do a threesome with a significant other....

[CPlusPlus]

OK, so I am in a slight predicament, it is all my fault tho I did set myself up for failure fuck it sucks LOL. OK so first off, me and A close friend of mine we were planning to go to Bogota for a get away right now in February, but both of us have girlfriends here in the US, my relationship with my Girlfriend is totally different than his, he is very cunning / deceiving and what not, his girlfriend does not suspect or is aware of his mongering intentions when he leaves the country, luckily he uses the "visiting family" excuse since he is from Colombia (I am Hispanic too but I am not from Colombia) so he can go and do whatever, well with my current Girlfriend And I are very open and honest, I am the cutthroat honest motherfucker who says things how it is and tries not to sugarcoat the truth, and actually there is no need to she is very sexually open minded plus she is bisexual, we have already had threesomes here in the states with other women since she also has a sexual need for women but says she could never be romantically or emotionally in love with one LOL its all a sexual thing for her she still trusts me and what not, of course if you all ever been in that situation you all know that when you do a threesome with a significant other you cannot put so much feeling or desire on the third partner as to not hurt her feelings or cause jealousy, so it is definitely a lot different then a threesome you might have with two random hookers or swingers. OK so since me and my girlfriend have this kind of relationship I told her straight up the whole deal and that me and my friend had planned this since before we hooked up, I told her that and everything and as to why my friend is going and that we cannot tell his Girlfriend and bla bla and I knew this was coming but she said she wants to go too! LOL that she loves Latin woman and that she would fucking love to do putitours with me, go to swinger clubs go and travel and meet people and go to a different country etc etc all happy with the idea (BTW she is an American girlfriend, typical blond blue eyes pale gringa LOL but she has an Achilles heel that she loves pussy as much as she loves my dick LOL, works perfect for me) The idea of her going with me actually turns me on, having my cake and eating at the same time, as well as taking someone over there who I care for and would love to spend time with not just in the sexual sense but also in traveling and what not. So that worked out well with her, but that does not sit well with my close friend, when I told him about it he got on my fucking case, saying that if I brought my Girlfriend it will ruin the whole fucking trip, that I better not spend more time with her than with him, that this was supposed to be a bro trip, so like he was acting like a jealous girlfriend I actually laughed at the fact that he got that way and he got pissed, so like now there is this resentment going on prior to our trip, I feel like honestly he is jealous at the fact that I can have a girlfriend who is willing to go with me and do shit like that with me and in his situation he has to lie deceive and what not and does not have that for him, so I feel his resentment now, I hope he changes plus honestly I do owe him for a favor in the past, but if worst comes to it and he can't understand I will refund my ticket since I already purchased them and no fucking trip to Bogota, I am not going to put one over the other I don't care if I lose my money I told him I will reimburse his ticket and shit if we cannot work this out.

Now with that being said, assuming all goes well, and I take my bisexual girlfriend over there to Bogota, I was thinking are regular civilian women even allow to go to the casas and the strip joints? I mean here in the states women can go to strip clubs and have a drink and get a lap dance, but now that I think about it all the times I have been to Colombia I have never seen actual women customers in the brothels, I assume its probably because of machismo, so like my question for the veterans is can I take my gringa girlfriend to lets say Fiebre atunes casas in el chapinero etc etc LOL? And if yes do you think that there will be respect for her I mean I don't want dudes approaching her asking "cuanto cobra" and what not since she is not a working girl and she is there as my partner, plus how would that work assuming I take her and she picked a girl for me and her to fuck? Is there an upcharge, or most likely we would have to pay for 2 services for per session since is me and her, and would a lot of working girls be open about that LOL? Swing clubs I know we could do ok, even tho we have not done such a thing yet and I don't want to share her I kindly want to do swing club just so she can have another woman and also for the voyeurism, she and I enjoy being watched getting fucked, but again I don't want to share her so I am reluctant with swinger clubs. So yeah that's it basically, also do you all believe my close friend has the right to feel the way he feels? I mean yeah I probably would spend some extra time with her but he should compromise I think idk that's what I feel, but lets see hopefully I can still go next month all good, friend is happy girlfriend is happy and I am happy, and my friends girlfriend all clueless LOL.

[Viajando Musico]

Routard, thanks for another great informative report on interesting option less reported or discussed. Combining your previous reports with World Traveloer's map is the best BOG guide one can have.

I received a tweet from Viviana:'first reverse gang bang: you against 10 girls, sexual marathon'. It's at Piscina Normandia Carrera 75 # 54-36 http://www.parejasw.com/. It's a regular swimming pool on week-end but a swinger club from Monday till Friday, from 3 pm till 10 pm. Not sure the mothers would let their children play the water if they knew what is happening here during the week! Normal price is 60 000 for couples and 90 000 for single men on Mondays and Tuesdays.

I arrive at opening at 3 pm, the bar and reception is at the second floor. I kiss Viviana, she explains me the concept, receives the 99 000 and gives me the key my locker, sandals and a towel. I bump into a guy I met before in Europeo, it's his first time also in Normandia. We visit the venue together. A large swimming pool under a transparent roof, a Jacuzzi, hammam, sauna, massage room and disco area on the main floor. Bar, locker room and public room on the second floor. It's not the perfect clean German FKK facilities, but it comes close.

The welcoming team is waiting for us: 7 girls in bikini ready to give a 14 hands massage! All guests start with this soap massage. I lay down on the massage table and the 14 giggling girls start to rub my back. Amazing experience, 14 hands that touch my everywhere while I grab the assess and tits that are close. When I turn myself on my back, I discover 7 smiling faces watching at me. They are curious of my origin, but I don't even need to answer as one of the girls knows me from the swinger world and reveals my nationality. A few start to joke that they have never done that nationality and that they really loved to. I feel hands touching my dick, but have no idea from which of the faces they belong to. One girl start to give me a blowjob, another one starts to kiss me, a third one is rubbing my chest, two other my legs. I have one hand in a pussy that is getting wet while another hand is caressing a tit. 'Que dura la vida! I'm struggling not to come as I want to keep it for the rest of the event. They have fun seeing me struggling, go on with their torture and finally release me.

They start with another guy; I come to rest and can watch better the scene as when I was in the middle of the action. Girls are the typical next door girls, at least if you live in Colombia, between 20 and 30 years old. They don't look like regular prostitutes, no high heels but sandals, no make up or fake boobs, but natural bodies, wet hair from the swimming pool. I recognize a couple of them from the swing world. All seem to enjoy it as it is a unique event. For sure, it's not the seedy partytreff atmosphere with exploited Romanians. More girls arrive later, there are roughly some 10 single guys and even e few swing couple, an excellent ratio.

When all guests received their massage, all girls end up in the swimming pool. Most guys stay outside of the pool, we are only 2 guys to entertain 10 crazy girls. It's the typical ' Narco' atmosphere, party in a swimming pool with beautiful Colombianas in bikini. I have one girl in my arms, while kissing another. My hands can grasp as much pussies, tits and asses as I want. Soon everybody is naked in the swimming pool. It's paradise!

I notice a pretty petite Colombiana, I end up alone with her in my arms. I'm in her back, caressing her small frim boobs and her tight pussy. She dives under waterand starts to give me a submarine blowjob. When she is without air, she surfaces again to kiss me. My dick is hard and gets between her legs. I invite her to go out of the pool and lay more comfortable on one of the beach matrass. Normandia is one of the few swing clubs in Colombia that have free condom dispensers everywhere.

Trouble is, as soon as I believed to be alone with her, Viviana starts the next event of the evening, the famous inverse gang bang. She sends all the other girls to join us. Hey! I didn't expect that! As a sudden I have 5 girls surrounding me. They take control of the situation and order me to lay down. They are then taking turn to give me a blow job while I am caressing the closest pussies. Then the first one puts me a condom and takes me on cowboy. The others get crazy, claiming their turn. The second girl changes the condom and starts to fuck me. Amazing! It's the very first time I hear about that, being gang banged by half a dozen girls! Even in my craziest dreams it didn't happen! It's not a trio, it's a sexto! Making love with five girls at a time, that's simply unique!

When all 5 girls got their turn, they free me and I'm suddenly alone with a hard dick! I check around for a pussy to fuck and here is my luck. Another girl just arrived in the club and entered in the swimming pool. She is amazing, the most beautiful by far. She has a very white skin and a perfect body, probably very young to be so firm. I enter the pool; start to talk to her while caressing her under water. I'm way too horny to wait longer. I offer her to go out of the water. I sit on the edge of the pool, she stays in the water and starts to give me a blow job. My friend from the swing club joins us and starts to take her from behind while she gives me the blowjob. Behind my back, the next inverse gang bang is going on, I start to finger a pussy that got too close of me. I won't hold it much longer. I put a condom, enter in the water and start to take the girl from behind while my friend takes my place to get a blow job. I feel great in her pussy, and fuck her hard while bouncing on her voluptuous ass and grabbing with both hands her firm tits. In front of me I have a great view of the other girls that are banging a guy. I can' stand it longer anymore and explode my orgasm in her pussy.

I go to rest upstairs having a drink at the bar, and then enter the Jacuzzi. Soon my friend enter in Jacuzzi too as well as one of the girls we know both from the swing world. We chat about our previous experiences in swing club and how great the inverse gang bang event is. Viviana joins also and we congratulate her for the idea and the success. She promises to do it again at least every 3 months and will inform us through tweeter. Viviana is a legend in the Bogota's swing world, amazing the network of contact she has and the ability to find 10 single girls for such an event.

I comment to Viviana that this event is most probably unique in the world. The closest would be German Partytreff, but in German Partytreff girls are exploited Romanian prostitutes, while here the girls are genuine swing girls that do it because they want to, not because they need to. Also, in German Partry treff you can fuck as much as you want with as many girls you want, but you will never have them all together at the same time.

While discussing, other girls join us in the Jacuzzi. If above water it seems an informal conversation, under water is madness. I'm fingering one pussy left, another pussy right and have no clue who is giving me a hand job. I guess it's the girl in front of me as she smiles at me. I change position and come and sit next her. We start to kiss while we touch each other sexes. We decide to isolate us on one of the beds upstairs. We lay down, arm in arm, our legs twisted together and start to kiss passionately. After amazing multiple PSE sex, this time great intimate GFE. I feel how wet she is, I could slip into as my dick is stipulating her clitoris. I beg for a condom, she puts it imperceptibly while performing a blow job. I take her on missionary on a very slow rhythm while kissing her and maximizing contact between both bodies.

As I had already my orgasm, I can hold this rhythm enough till she gets her orgasm first. I then explode with my own orgasm. A guy approaches us, and starts to caress her. It doesn't care that much anymore as I have finished. I'm not sure however that she will agrees also, but soon I realize that both already know each other. We have conversation all three together, while I suddenly realize they are a couple. We chat a while, and after some time I decide to say good bye and leave the venue with my mind full of unforgettable memories.

I know most punters are reluctant to the swinger world. But it's not about bringing your wife so that other dudes can fuck them. Also, sex is guaranteed for single men. Of course it's not for the shy. You need to have no problem with staying naked and sharing space with other naked people, no problem with public sex, no problem with group sex and no problem having conversation with a guy while fucking his wife! But for me it's the greatest place of Bogota, if not in the world. I just cannot imagine another place where 7 girls would gang me for just 30 $! Remember also that the girls fuck because they want to, not because they need to, don't treat them as if they are hookers. The report is from the first reverse gang bang Viviana organized more than a year ago. She does it on a regualr basis every 3 months, starts to advertise 2 weeks in advance on twitter or on her internet site. Most of the time it's in Normandia, but once she did it also in Monasterio. If you can't plan your trip to Bogota for that event, anyway there are still every Tuesday the regular event in Normandia. Not a reverse gang bang, but just a few single girls available for the single men and some couples.