Bogota Reports

[Ho Lover1]

. It would just have been a wasted day since there's no ATMs open at night time as far as I'm aware (I do keep a couple 50 K notes in a secret underwear pocket, but that's not for mongering, it's for taxi fare in case I get robbed). I far larger danger would have been if I accidentally hurt her after she got violent with me. Not much chance of that as I have pretty good control. But still I don't want to deal with this type of issue again. Never had an issue with theft or anything else inside the clubs..

Where can you buy this underwear with the secret pocket?

[Blade2000]

I want to try these two places and I hear they are pretty expensive. How much do they charge for a 1 hour session exactly? And also, is it true that to make a reservation at Flirt I need to prepay some money?

I don't know about Loutron, but I've been to Flirt hotel before. You don't need to prepay anything at reservation time, but you do need to make a reservation. But if you do go, prepare to pull. It's not like a casa where if you don't see anything you like, you can just leave. You could leave, but it would be awkward. They line up about 10 girls for you and they introduce themselves casa style and you pick. When I went, the girls were in the 8-9 hotness range. Similar to Lidos.

The girls cost 600 K COP for half hour or 800 K COP for one hour. You will also be expected to buy her a drink a chat a while before the session. Drinks are generally expensive, but there are some cheap ones like a vodka mixer. So you are basically paying US prices but with a much hotter girl than you could get in the US. I went with the 30 minute session and the sex was great.

You could get with 10 girls in Santa Fe for the price of one at Flirt, but your pretty much guaranteed a model looking girl at Flirt.

They take both cash or credit card, but charge a 10% fee on the credit card. I would carry both just in case. You pay afterwards.

When I called to make a reservation. I read a message in Spanish that I got from google translate. The guy could tell I didn't know Spanish, so hadn't me over to a guy who did. Not sure the English speaker will be available when you call.

[Gropai]

I want to try these two places and I hear they are pretty expensive. How much do they charge for a 1 hour session exactly? And also, is it true that to make a reservation at Flirt I need to prepay some money?

[Gropai]

Three of us went to Venezuela. Our cards got used a lot. Mine came to US $5000. I used mine at 4-5 star hotels and two gift shops. They used mine at casinos, bars, car parts, grocery stores and Hamburger places.

Always use cash if you can.

And how did you end up spending so much? Did somebody clone your card and spend that much money?

[Bango Cheito]

Uber is just another option beside the yellow cabs. Pro for Uber is that you can pay with Credit card through the app. Another pro for Uber is when you need to go in the suburb of Bogota like Chia for example. Regular cab is not allowed and has to make a paperwork before leaving Bogota while Uber is free. Another pro for Uber is that if you lost something durying the ride, you can contact again the driver through the app. If you arrive at airport, Uber is not a good idea as it's hard for him to meet you discretely as taxis who have waited for hours might beat him up. Unlike what most say on the board, Uber is NOT cheaper than taxi, it even becomes much more expensive durying peak hours. It's just that Uber cannot scam on pricing like taxis sometimes do with tourists. The later will not be possible anymore very soon as they are implementing new taxi meters where users agree on price before starting the ride.

I find Uber is usually a better option, but it depends.

There is also the Tappsi app for ordering a yellow cab through the app, which allows you to recover lost items and pay by card under some circumstances.

[Bango Cheito]

Most of my most successful non-pros came from online dating sites like latinamericancupid, tinder and Badoo. I would say the most successful out of those has been latinamericancupid. I try to establish a relationship before I even get there so they are comfortable with the idea of me and it helps me set expectations. If you are going to do on the ground work, I would say malls and shopping centers for day time and bars and night clubs for the night time. In night clubs, people tend to cohabitate in their own like cliques though. There is herely alot of activity or movement of women in those places, I would say it gives you a higher chance at success. Speaking Spanish will be crucial though. In my experience Latin women are stimulated thorough their ears. They love to converse. If you can do that in Spanish, you will have a higher chance of success. Colombians are generally kind people and the women are approachable. Even if they are not interested, they are usually kind and respectful to let you know they are not interested. Just keep trying and see what happens.

This is Gringo Tuesdays. It's apparently very easy to get laid at these places.

[MjTravelLove]

Language lessons always go wrong. For example: Trying to find my room is different from trying to search my room. In either case, asking mom is not going to help. However, mom was truly an expert at scouring.

You're probably better off just dropping it, since your original post said you scoured this forum. That excludes other search engines and the deep (or DEEP) web. If the information you are looking for is easily located on this forum, which it is, you didn't search or scour, although you may have asked your mom.

My "backhanded tone" (another mistake as it was flippant) included all the information you need to search (or scour) this forum for the knowledge you seek. Once again:

Look in the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread. Find the link for Routard's magnum opus on Bogota. You won't have to search or scour, as it's the second post you'll find. Then go to the "Bogota Lists" thread. You will need to search there, or get mom to do it. You won't need to search far. On page 2 World Travel 69 offers a fellow scourer a hint on where to find links to his maps. There are 3 maps, so you're looking for 3 links. I'll even make it easier. Search that thread for "Kansas".

Routard and Woodman09 are 2 of the best sources of information on Bogota. My contributions are few there. I can't give you better recommendations than those two. However, once you find the Bogota maps here's some general information that may help.

Choose your place to stay with a few things in mind. Traffic in Bogota is bad. I choose places convenient to the Transmilenio to avoid traffic and minimize taxi use. I also choose a place within walking distance of my areas of interest. For me, that's between 1 and 2 miles (I walked 25 miles in Bogota one day). My areas of interest usually involve food, so I've always chosen north hotels on quiet streets.

Here's my generic advice. Figure out what you're looking for, streetwalkers, massage parlors, casas or clubs. Figure out your budget. If you don't mind spending $100 or more for each session, hit the north clubs. If you would rather spend a lot less, hit the Santa Fe clubs or streetwalkers. If your budget is somewhere in between, choose Chapinero.

Now go forth and scour!

Dear Professor,

It's true, you were not backhanded. You are just extremely arrogant. It gets more to your core than being flippant toward a single word that had no impact on your life.

The info I am looking for is not easily located on this forum. Your directions are not really helpful, just general and obvious.

There ratio of messages about non SF locations: SF locations is extremely imbalanced, at best. Maybe that has to do with price. Fine. But it's a fact.

Are there comments about other places? Yes. Are they very helpful, like the detailed SF reports of late? No.

And if you search too far back in the forum, the info is dated. Assuming your expertise is not limited to linguistics, this should be readily apparent to you.

You're right on one note: Woodman and Routard are cordial and extremely helpful. And the SF reports are excellent. Apart from that, I see one or two recent reports on the rest of the city, and some much older ones that may or may not be relevant.

[Blade2000]

Hey was this shy librarian girl you described named Naomi? Did she have a white girl or euro girl type of face?

I fucked her twice on my last trip about 6 months ago. The first time was great. The second was a complete waste of time. I paid 60 k each time at Antony's bar where she was working (near Fiebre).

Yes I think it was. She looks white and stands out from all the girls at Atones. She is really the only hot one in there, very small tits. Sex wasn't that great so I didn't repeat. But now I'm thinking I should have done another session with her in doggy while having her talking dirty in English.

Also wan't mention a bad experience I had on my last day. Pulled a street girl hanging out near one of the hotels across from La Piscina. She was small and cute from far away, but when I got closer, she was wearing some very ragged, worn out clothes. She quoted 30 K COP, but it turns out that was just for her and I needed an extra 20 K for the room. Ok no problem. In the room she told me to go wash up, but I was peaking my head out the door every couple seconds. I could see she was close to where my pants were and going for my wallet.

On the bed, she started a BBBJ, but I could see that with her free hand she was reaching to where my pants were. I made the suggestion that I wanted to get a condom from my pants as an excuse to get them away from her, which I did. I was of course totally limp through the BBBJ, since I knew she was trying to rob me. About 10 minutes into it she yells "policizia, polizia! I knew this was BS as she was trying to get me to panic and take my eyes of my wallet for a few seconds. At that point I start putting my pants on and she now says the police are gone and I can get naked and lie down again. I say no thanks and keep putting my clothes one.

At that point she slaps me in the face as hard as her 80 pound body could. Didn't bother me and I kept putting my clothes on. Then she realized the games over so starts reaching into my pockets to grab my wallet or phone but fails. At that point I grab her by the arm and throw her out the door. I start saying "robaro, robaro" and made a bit of a scene on the street. I was still barefoot and shirtless. At this point the girl ran away and several girls and the mamasan that sold the room came to ask what was wrong.

Nothing ending up being stolen and no real harm was done. But I think I'm done with street girls. Last year I was also robbed by a street girl where she asked me to put my clothes on hooks next to the door. I'm pretty sure during the session, someone grabbed my wallet and took maybe seven 50 K COP notes, since there was only one left in my wallet after the session. Not 100% sure I was robbed, but I think so.

I was a bit angry after the recent incident, but after I reflect back, the girl is probably desperate for money as is almost everyone else in the area. Getting my wallet stolen wouldn't have been a huge deal for me as there's only cash there, no credit cards or anything else. It would just have been a wasted day since there's no ATMs open at night time as far as I'm aware (I do keep a couple 50 K notes in a secret underwear pocket, but that's not for mongering, it's for taxi fare in case I get robbed). I far larger danger would have been if I accidentally hurt her after she got violent with me. Not much chance of that as I have pretty good control. But still I don't want to deal with this type of issue again. Never had an issue with theft or anything else inside the clubs.

That single bad incident aside, I love COLOMBIA and can't wait to go back again.

[JjBee62]

"Scour" and "search" are two different things. When you "search" you just look for something and you don't bother with other methods. When you "scour" -when it's the internet, you find out that there are other explorers and other search engines and go even in the DEEP WEB.

When you are trying to find or "search: your room, you just look around then ask mom, but when your "scour" you will turn your room upside down and look in the other rooms as well.

Language lessons always go wrong. For example: Trying to find my room is different from trying to search my room. In either case, asking mom is not going to help. However, mom was truly an expert at scouring.

You're probably better off just dropping it, since your original post said you scoured this forum. That excludes other search engines and the deep (or DEEP) web. If the information you are looking for is easily located on this forum, which it is, you didn't search or scour, although you may have asked your mom.

My "backhanded tone" (another mistake as it was flippant) included all the information you need to search (or scour) this forum for the knowledge you seek. Once again:

Look in the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread. Find the link for Routard's magnum opus on Bogota. You won't have to search or scour, as it's the second post you'll find. Then go to the "Bogota Lists" thread. You will need to search there, or get mom to do it. You won't need to search far. On page 2 World Travel 69 offers a fellow scourer a hint on where to find links to his maps. There are 3 maps, so you're looking for 3 links. I'll even make it easier. Search that thread for "Kansas".

Routard and Woodman09 are 2 of the best sources of information on Bogota. My contributions are few there. I can't give you better recommendations than those two. However, once you find the Bogota maps here's some general information that may help.

Choose your place to stay with a few things in mind. Traffic in Bogota is bad. I choose places convenient to the Transmilenio to avoid traffic and minimize taxi use. I also choose a place within walking distance of my areas of interest. For me, that's between 1 and 2 miles (I walked 25 miles in Bogota one day). My areas of interest usually involve food, so I've always chosen north hotels on quiet streets.

Here's my generic advice. Figure out what you're looking for, streetwalkers, massage parlors, casas or clubs. Figure out your budget. If you don't mind spending $100 or more for each session, hit the north clubs. If you would rather spend a lot less, hit the Santa Fe clubs or streetwalkers. If your budget is somewhere in between, choose Chapinero.

Now go forth and scour!

[MjTravelLove]

"Scour" and "search" are two different things. When you "search" you just look for something and you don't bother with other methods. When you "scour" -when it's the internet, you find out that there are other explorers and other search engines and go even in the DEEP WEB.

When you are trying to find or "search: your room, you just look around then ask mom, but when your "scour" you will turn your room upside down and look in the other rooms as well.

[MjTravelLove]

I'm also doing a bit of research in preparation for a trip to Bogota, and I swear there has been mention of at least two different neighborhoods outside of Santa Fe on the last several pages. I read a post by Routard where he discussed in great detail, a fourth red light district, as well. Others have been chiming in on where they like to go. Why aren't you getting that? Are you reading a different ISG than I am getting?

Indeed you must have been "scouring" the forum instead of reading it. Mongering is just like everything else in life in one universal aspect: the more you put into it, the more you get out of it.

For the wonderful contribution.

[MjTravelLove]

Most of my most successful non-pros came from online dating sites like latinamericancupid, tinder and Badoo. I would say the most successful out of those has been latinamericancupid. I try to establish a relationship before I even get there so they are comfortable with the idea of me and it helps me set expectations. If you are going to do on the ground work, I would say malls and shopping centers for day time and bars and night clubs for the night time. In night clubs, people tend to cohabitate in their own like cliques though. There is herely alot of activity or movement of women in those places, I would say it gives you a higher chance at success. Speaking Spanish will be crucial though. In my experience Latin women are stimulated thorough their ears. They love to converse. If you can do that in Spanish, you will have a higher chance of success. Colombians are generally kind people and the women are approachable. Even if they are not interested, they are usually kind and respectful to let you know they are not interested. Just keep trying and see what happens.

Sounds great, thanks as always! I'll report back during and or after my time in the city. I have used Cupid Colombia and met some ladies on there -- some P2 P and others seemingly non-pros. Some look very sexy, but I hope the pictures are the real deal. All of them were willing to share multiple, extra pics via whatsapp, so I have some faith they are honest (as where I do not with the escort sites).

I speak spanish very well, so no worries there.

[Global00]

Most of my most successful non-pros came from online dating sites like latinamericancupid, tinder and Badoo. I would say the most successful out of those has been latinamericancupid. I try to establish a relationship before I even get there so they are comfortable with the idea of me and it helps me set expectations. If you are going to do on the ground work, I would say malls and shopping centers for day time and bars and night clubs for the night time. In night clubs, people tend to cohabitate in their own like cliques though. There is herely alot of activity or movement of women in those places, I would say it gives you a higher chance at success. Speaking Spanish will be crucial though. In my experience Latin women are stimulated thorough their ears. They love to converse. If you can do that in Spanish, you will have a higher chance of success. Colombians are generally kind people and the women are approachable. Even if they are not interested, they are usually kind and respectful to let you know they are not interested. Just keep trying and see what happens.

Sounds like a great time!

Speaking of non-pros, what would you say are the best places to pick up non-pros? Somebody mentioned a gringo night at one bar. Any thoughts on that or anything else?

Thanks!

MjT.

[Eszpresszo]

Fair enough, apart from the backhanded tone. I ahve seen the map many times. I see hundreds of establishments, obviously. But people only report on Santa Fe. Some say it's because it is the best option, not just the cheapest.

Might I ask what your suggestions are in terms of places to visit?

MjT.

I'm also doing a bit of research in preparation for a trip to Bogota, and I swear there has been mention of at least two different neighborhoods outside of Santa Fe on the last several pages. I read a post by Routard where he discussed in great detail, a fourth red light district, as well. Others have been chiming in on where they like to go. Why aren't you getting that? Are you reading a different ISG than I am getting?

Indeed you must have been "scouring" the forum instead of reading it. Mongering is just like everything else in life in one universal aspect: the more you put into it, the more you get out of it.

[MjTravelLove]

After going to a few places Punting George mentioned on the Bogota FAQ board, my lady friend and I went on a coffee tasting tour. We ended up at Amo Perfecto, Azahar and Cafe Cultor. I'm not a coffee snob but wanted to get a feel for the coffee in Colombia. I was actually able to enjoy it with milk, cream or sugar. After our mini tour, I told her we would meet for dinner because I had some business I had to finish. I just wanted to go dip into some other pussy because I knew she would be with me for the remainder of the day and night if I didn't give myself a break. I want back to the apartment and relaxed a little and then walked down to Sante Fe. Typical Friday night. Busy as hell. Especially Troya. You couldn't move in there. So many dudes to girls I walked through and didn't opt to stay. I went to atunes, paisa, Venus and Fiebre. Each has their own vibe. Atunes had more girls than guys but nothing I liked. Venus was also extremely busy but the girls look so young. Maybe it is very young looking crowd in there. I also went into the new club Eiffel. There was three girls and one guy. And the club lion around the corner is never packed even though it has my favorite layout of all the clubs. I decided on Fiebre and wasted no more time because of my dinner date. I settled on girl I seen dancing yesterday and has a nice shaped ass. She seems disinterested being there yesterday and it as the same today. I found her sitting on the stage texting no paying attention to anyone. I went up to her and she lit up like no one talks to her or something. 24 year old from Maracaibo Venezuela. I have to get out there. We settled on 60 k for 30 minutes. Like I said before I never really ask for BBBJ but she sucked me off anyway. I let her do it for a little and then I put her in quatro and pounded away. Very wet with natural moans which I thoroughly enjoyed. Put me in a good mood and it seem to put her in one two because she couldn't stop smiling and I didn't see her smile once yesterday. Walk back to the apartment, showered and got ready for the dinner date. It's much better to listen to a female when you have an unload dick LOL. So, the dinner went well. Came back to the apartment. Smashed my 20 year old student with enormous breast and very good pussy. I always try to get some non pro pussy on my travels because I usually find the sex to be much better. But she stayed the night and I just woke up and have to get ready for my flight to Medellin. Thanks for always being great Bogota.

Sounds like a great time!

Speaking of non-pros, what would you say are the best places to pick up non-pros? Somebody mentioned a gringo night at one bar. Any thoughts on that or anything else?

Thanks!

MjT.