Bogota Reports

[Diviant]

I think they saw the rich foreigner coming. Next time you should try to negotiate. In 15 years I have never even been told an initial price that high in Sante Fe for 1 hour. (Don't think I even paid that much in La Piscina.) You can get overnight for that. For 1 hour you should be paying no more than 8..

Already have unlocked phone at home. It came in right before I left, but I didn't want to try and mess with it yet. All my info is on my current phone.

I'm open to any suggestions. I'll try to negotiate more but in truth I'd rather pay more for GFE.

Oh I did try one of those that was from an earlier post. The first of the two twitter agencies. It replied they only went to homes. I could have probably used the airbnb, but I was comfortable in the hotel.

[KangarooTed]

Hey guys,

Can anyone point me to an airbnb building that won't give me shit? I usually stay at Energy in Medellin.

Yes I can.

99% of Airbnb's will not give you shit. The only ones to avoid are ones where the owner notes how helpful they are as they are in the unit next door or live in the same building. Or where it specifically states no guests in the Airbnb info on that apartment, which is very very few.

[TimeKeeper281]

Hey guys,

I am a Medellin vet. I want to do a little Bogota high rolling on the North Side. Can anyone point me to an airbnb building that won't give me shit? I usually stay at Energy in Medellin.

[Mr Enternational]

I spent the first half of the day at the Sunday Market then hit up Sante Fe I followed instructions from here https://girlsheavens.com/strip-clubs-in-bogota/ and went up 24 and turned on 15. I circled a few times and found a pretty Venezuelan. I over did and asked for an hour. (I just don't want to be rushed) she was very good. Covered and in territory that I wasn't completely comfortable in. (My guess is that's a good thing, keep wits about) Anyway, I paid 150 for an hour.

I think they saw the rich foreigner coming. Next time you should try to negotiate. In 15 years I have never even been told an initial price that high in Sante Fe for 1 hour. (Don't think I even paid that much in La Piscina.) You can get overnight for that. For 1 hour you should be paying no more than 80.

Tip-- either bring an unlocked phone or try to unlock it before you come. I have Tmobile and although I think well of them in general, I had hell trying to get my phone to work. I used a internet only sim yesterday and then today it locked and wouldn't connect. Had to spend hours trying to figure it out this morning.

I have T-mobile as well. If you bought the phone from them, there should be an unlock app on it where you can unlock it yourself 6 times for 30 days each time until you pay the phone off. There is no need to buy phones from carriers anymore. You come out better buying one from the manufacturer that is already unlocked.

[Xpartan]

I think I'll try a preppago next. Although, even though I've read it somewhere before, I'm not sure exactly how you pre-pay an independent from say that prepago photo site. I just like it because you can search for exactly what you want.

LOL, it's just a word. You pay, not PRE-pay. Actually, do NOT prepay before getting serviced or you're almost guaranteed a lousy fuck.

Also, don't want to burst your bubble, but you shouldn't trust what you see or read on Photoprepago. Try to find girls with reviews.

[Diviant]

I spent the first half of the day at the Sunday Market then hit up Sante Fe I followed instructions from here https://girlsheavens.com/strip-clubs-in-bogota/ and went up 24 and turned on 15. I circled a few times and found a pretty Venezuelan. I over did and asked for an hour. (I just don't want to be rushed) she was very good. Covered and in territory that I wasn't completely comfortable in. (My guess is that's a good thing, keep wits about) Anyway, I paid 150 for an hour. She was going to let me go twice but I can't turn over that quickly. Prob at least 15 - 30 before I could try again. Anyway it went well but felt a rushed and again it took some effort on my part. Nothing against her, she was great.

I think I'll try a preppago next. Although, even though I've read it somewhere before, I'm not sure exactly how you pre-pay an independent from say that prepago photo site. I just like it because you can search for exactly what you want.

Tip-- either bring an unlocked phone or try to unlock it before you come. I have Tmobile and although I think well of them in general, I had hell trying to get my phone to work. I used a internet only sim yesterday and then today it locked and wouldn't connect. Had to spend hours trying to figure it out this morning.

First day SA was great. Second Santa Fe girl. Tomorrow, I'll try the prep.

Anyway, I'll take any advice.

Oh picked up antibiotics and plan-be. If nothing else cheap to take home but maybe I can give one away tomorrow.

They didn't have diazapam and clonazepam they had, but wanted prescription.

[Balboa]

My view is different. If I like someone enough to fly her in, I'm committed. I'm asking if she's ever flown before. I'm walking her through the process. I'm making sure she is going to be on the plane. For the period we've agreed on, I've adopted her. She's my responsibility. I'll also impress upon her that she has responsibilities, mainly to be on the plane. If we're not both committed, I'm wasting money.

If the plane has a problem and diverts to Bucaramanga, I do what needs to be done to get her either to me, or back home. If I'm not willing to see the whole thing through until she's back home safe, there's no way I'm springing for a plane ticket. If she's worth the expense, she's worth enough to see it through.

The same holds true for a girl who catches a taxi to my apartment. Either I'm cancelling before she gets in the taxi, or I'm paying the taxi to take her home if I turn her away.

Right on JjB!

You can order someone an UBER, Taxi, etc from a continent away if needed.

To each their own, but I agree with you completely here.

[Lew Ashby]

So far one of my all time best worldwide: https://twitter.com/encuentrosandre?lang=en been using for years and rarely disappointed. Between 70-100 $ per hour, outcall only. Specializes in students and only does 1 call per day per girl, so no tired pros there. They vet the girls, only cute GND types, GFE style.

Other agency I tried lately is https://mobile.twitter.com/schoolmodelscol

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Funky, thanks for sharing those! I'm not a twitter guy so would have never come across them otherwise. I've added both of them to my whatsapp and will have to set up some dates in between the the MPs / casas and Santa FE when I go in 3 weeks.

Cheers,

Lew.

[Mr Enternational]

Pay $150 to fly a girl from Barranquilla to Bogota? What are you doing over there? You've already got a girl in Bogota, plus Santa Fe. Besides, Viva flies nonstop for about $50 round trip. Then just leave her stranded at the airport? That's a complete you-turn. Something about her was good enough to invest the equivalent of 10 Santa Fe fucks, to get her to Bogota, where you've already got more pussy than a crazy cat lady convention, but you're not willing to pay another $10 to keep those legs open the next time you're in Barranquilla? Or pay nothing at all and just give her 5 minutes of sympathy. Considering what you had already spent, you just screwed yourself to ruin someone else's day.

I gave the general idea. I did not give all the minute details. I had been talking to this chick online for over a year. I was coming to Colombia and I didn't want to be running all over the country this time. So I was going to get her down to Bogota for a day and a half because I would have other things going on after that. So I needed the times to match up for the flights. Viva does not have as many flights as Avianca.

She had flown before but forgot about the security part. As a matter of fact one of the pictures in her profile was her inside the plane and that is how I initially started talking to her. I asked where she went.

After she told me that she missed the flight I looked online to see if anyone else had a flight leaving out. There was one. I forgot what compnay. But I told her to tell them I could give her my credit card number for the ticket. They said they would have to have the actual card. Must have been about 8:30 or 9 pm. How the hell could I get her some money to the airport in Barranquilla at that time? All options were exhausted on my end.

I didn't just say too bad so sad when she said she missed the flight. I am a foreigner in the country and I am in a city hundreds of miles away. She is in the place she grew up in.

[Elvis 2008]

When someone writes about a woman falling for them, I'm cynical. When she's at the bottom of the economic ladder and you're somewhere between the middle and the top, there's always an ulterior motive. It doesn't matter if she's as pure as Ivory soap. She sees dollar signs. You're spending enough money for her to support her family for 6 to 12 months, for a week's vacation.

Understand, most are good people. They're not trying to scam you. Most honestly believe they love you. You treat them nice, you're sweet, you buy them nice things, but your money is like a Snapchat filter; it turns a John Goodman into a Brad Pitt.

Well, since I started this, I might as well expand on it. The typical short term working girl is going to try to get as many $$$ as she can when she meets you. As long as guys know the game, and they usually do, this is the expected behavior, a short term negotiation.

What I meant by the better ones not asking for money straight up is the second most sought after prize is a visa to America. I had a fiance visa where a girl stupidly broke up with me. I thank my stars on that now as she would have crushed me as I have seen how greedy and stubborn she was. One of the reasons I had such a hard time with this was how irrational she was being, but I am glad that I had the experience because I learned from it.

If the women can come to America and figure out a way to stay, and they have a transferable degree, they can make 10 X more than they can in Colombia, if they are willing to work, which is an issue for so many of them. I know a woman who sadly just got rejected for a visa. She knew everything about salaries in America from her cousins. She would have been an asset here in America. She is a pretty girl, a solid citizen, and a hard worker.

Of course, the big prize in marriage. It is funny that you say that JJBee about not being lower class because the most recent prospect I met is kind of upper class or upper middle class. She is crazy about me (and I her) comes from a well to do family, and it has an entirely different feel. She has offered to pay for my hotel, buy me cologne, hell she has even offered to sign a prenup. I haven't met anyone like her.

People may say because her family is wealthy she is not greedy, but she is in the sense that she can make out so well money wise from me even if it is not from me directly. Free room, free board, a portion of my pension if I were to die, a home if I die, a huge increase in her income, and the knowledge I have with investing and in my profession. She is so much smarter than anyone else I have met because she really sees the big money in the long term when so few do. That is why she was insulted when I even offered to give her a gift after sex. Every night I call her, and every night we have phone sex. She insists on it. I agree with what ME has said about wanting an asset versus a liability; it is just so hard to find one who gets that, and this one is unique in that she gets being an asset.

I have always thought there is huge money to be made in South America if you could find people to trust. Well, her family has done it, and she already has ideas about how we could earn money in the USA and retire to Colombia. Her family has run successful businesses there and know what it takes and how it can be done.

She even knows it. She told me that she had seven guys who currently want to go out with her, and she has had five boyfriends even though she is in her mid 20's. It is not like she is drop dead gorgeous but more like cute and just very bubbly. She told me the reason so many guys want to date her is, "I am pretty and fun but I also work hard. Most pretty girls do not work that hard here. " I could say that is much the same in the sex prison. Given that she has already made me a fantastic meal and gave me a killer massage and fucked the shit out of me, I believe her. I just have to make sure that she is not crazy.

Even if they are not interested in getting a visa, just getting to know the businessman traveling into their country may yield results. My ex spoke English, was so hot that when she dressed up every guy in the room who wasn't gay was drooling over her, and she had a charisma about her. So she could have made contacts. I told her that every American businessman is looking for a local they can trust, can translate honestly for them, and are looking to increase their sales. You just show them you want to be an asset and prove you are, and they will throw money at you. Sucking out money for the short term is what they always see especially with beautiful women and third world countries. The difference between Saudi Arabia and Venezuela is Venezuela did all it could to fuck over American and other foreign oil companies whereas the Saudis, as messed up as they are, worked with the oil companies for their mutual benefit.

Still, I have told the women that I have been serious with about the pitfalls of my engagement. I am only going to pay at most what a boyfriend pays and that is when we are together, and I am not going to be monogamous unless I directly say so. Of all the things that I am upset about with my ex was that I was in the land of cheap pussy, I was paying her an allowance because I thought she was going to be my wife, and she was refusing me sex. I am now painfully clear on this subject even with the women I am serious with. I am not giving away my monogamy for nothing. Spare me the shit about how faithful you are. I was engaged and there was a whole portion of my ex's life she hid from me. They are all like, "I am not like your ex", but there is no way for me to know otherwise.

[Diviant]

Well had a good first day or very good. I didn't get to the hotel till about 2 am then got up about 5:30. The SA girl I was tweaked had gotten a bit cold and business like on whatsapp. I agreed to 350 but I wanted much of her time. I meet the SA girl and we walked she spoke English fairly well and I enjoyed her company. I'm staying at the a hotel but I had gotten an airbnb. We went to the airbnb and it was a bit weird. We had to get buzzed in and she had to explain to the doorman. I didn't have my luggage (at the hotel) and of course I had the young girl with me. The desk guy called the owner and the SA girl spoke to her. Anyway, I'm hoping to keep both, but stay in the hotel. We'll see, as it's got to be obvious, I just want to use the airbnb as a fuck pad.

Anyway, that's what we did. She was so tight. It was covered, and, mostly, I can't even get off like that, but I did (eventually); not the same level, but still really enjoyed it. I know it's more many of you guys would pay but I really enjoyed the time I spent with her. I may try just a local guide site tomorrow. I can do sex separately, if I want it, but I enjoyed her as a translator as well (even if not cheap). I do hope to see here again. I was so enthralled I spent a lot of time on her. She said she enjoyed it 'too much'. Course that didn't really translate for me.

I sent woodman a email but, honestly, I may be asleep by the time he responds. Been a good day, but a long one.

Maybe I can catch up with him later.

[JjBee62]

And you know what my problem with those women is? Well I should say those women's problem with me. And I tell them this. I am looking for an asset, not a liability. In other words, I am not looking to take on the responsibility of paying someone else's bills. These women are looking for a bank, not a boyfriend. Big difference.

My girlfriend is a school lunch lady in a country town in Brazil. She has to ride the bus all night in order to get to the closest city with an airport. That is how country where she lives is. The other day we were supposed to meet in a certain city to start a trip. She missed her flight the first day (did not check in online like I told her to do) so she would not arrive until evening the next day. I don't know if she had to pay to change the ticket or whatever. She never brought that up to me. What I do know is that because we would have to stay an extra night in the hotel because of her late arrival, she called the hotel and made a bank transfer to pay for the extra night before she even got there. That is the type of woman I look for..

Sometimes, when I'm following right along with you, you make a hard left turn and lose me completely.

Looking for an asset? Check.

Expect accountability? Check.

Be a boyfriend not a bank? Check.

Pay $150 to fly a girl from Barranquilla to Bogota? What are you doing over there? You've already got a girl in Bogota, plus Santa Fe. Besides, Viva flies nonstop for about $50 round trip. Then just leave her stranded at the airport? That's a complete you-turn. Something about her was good enough to invest the equivalent of 10 Santa Fe fucks, to get her to Bogota, where you've already got more pussy than a crazy cat lady convention, but you're not willing to pay another $10 to keep those legs open the next time you're in Barranquilla? Or pay nothing at all and just give her 5 minutes of sympathy. Considering what you had already spent, you just screwed yourself to ruin someone else's day.

I'm not sure I'd call what you do a relationship. "I'll be in town for 3 days. We can fuck Tuesday at 10 am and Thursday at 3 pm. Don't be late and don't wear any make-up. Maybe I'll take you out for a drink Thursday night. " There's no reason to throw money at that, especially considering how many of those relationships you have going on around the world. Worst case, there's always plenty of hookers until you find another "girlfriend."

My view is different. If I like someone enough to fly her in, I'm committed. I'm asking if she's ever flown before. I'm walking her through the process. I'm making sure she is going to be on the plane. For the period we've agreed on, I've adopted her. She's my responsibility. I'll also impress upon her that she has responsibilities, mainly to be on the plane. If we're not both committed, I'm wasting money.

If the plane has a problem and diverts to Bucaramanga, I do what needs to be done to get her either to me, or back home. If I'm not willing to see the whole thing through until she's back home safe, there's no way I'm springing for a plane ticket. If she's worth the expense, she's worth enough to see it through.

The same holds true for a girl who catches a taxi to my apartment. Either I'm cancelling before she gets in the taxi, or I'm paying the taxi to take her home if I turn her away.

[Balboa]

On the flip side, I had bought a ticket for a chick in Barranquilla to meet me in Bogota. I paid like $150 round trip. She had to borrow money from her mother to get to the airport. She got there in time but did not know she was supposed to go through security, so she end up missing the flight. That was the last flight of the day. She did not have money to get back home. No idea how she ended up getting back. I have not talked to her since that day and I was pizzed to waste $150 like that. That is not the kind of lady that I look for..

I think sometimes you make this stuff up, LOL.

Can someone really be this cold?

Some little country bumpkin from Barranquilla gets stuck cause she's naive to traveling and you just leave her cold.

I know you'll have some good line about, ain't your fault, not your problem, etc, etc.

Guess you skipped the empathy line, on creation.

However, once again, to each their own.

Obviously you can live with yourself treating girls like that.

You'll have a good rationalization of why, you write well actually, and that's great for you.

I’m not a fool, I don’t throw money around like a bobo, I don’t let women take advantage of me, however, I do know that things happen, and I’d never leave someone stranded unless they did something with bad intentions.

[Mr Enternational]

The subject is the women who have mastered the art of convincing men they aren't paying for sex. Woman who make you think you're investing in a relationship.

And you know what my problem with those women is? Well I should say those women's problem with me. And I tell them this. I am looking for an asset, not a liability. In other words, I am not looking to take on the responsibility of paying someone else's bills. These women are looking for a bank, not a boyfriend. Big difference.

My girlfriend is a school lunch lady in a country town in Brazil. She has to ride the bus all night in order to get to the closest city with an airport. That is how country where she lives is. The other day we were supposed to meet in a certain city to start a trip. She missed her flight the first day (did not check in online like I told her to do) so she would not arrive until evening the next day. I don't know if she had to pay to change the ticket or whatever. She never brought that up to me. What I do know is that because we would have to stay an extra night in the hotel because of her late arrival, she called the hotel and made a bank transfer to pay for the extra night before she even got there. That is the type of woman I look for.

On the flip side, I had bought a ticket for a chick in Barranquilla to meet me in Bogota. I paid like $150 round trip. She had to borrow money from her mother to get to the airport. She got there in time but did not know she was supposed to go through security, so she end up missing the flight. That was the last flight of the day. She did not have money to get back home. No idea how she ended up getting back. I have not talked to her since that day and I was pizzed to waste $150 like that. That is not the kind of lady that I look for.

I can not fathom giving a chick that is supposed to be my girlfriend money here and money there. I throw money at hookers for the variety. I know that I can not buy love. So what advantage does it give me to throw money at some chick I am supposed to be in a relationship with? None as far as I can see.

I am of the IronQuinn school. I have money because I only give it to chicks that can tell me how much it is going to cost me and how long she is staying. I know a chick is not with me for money because I do not give them any. Late rent, empty pantries, and school clothes or books for kids ain't none of my fucking business. And when a chick does ask, without warning that is the end of us seeing each other.

[IronQuinn]

The guy who followed me wasn't so lucky. He ended up buying her an Audi.

Jesus, I can't even imagine that. Money to blow is a foreign concept to me. I've had a lot of girlfriends over the years, and none of them were with me for the money. It's easy for me to tell, because I don't have any money. I travel when I can because it's what I like to do, maybe a trip once a year, two smaller ones if I'm lucky. The rest of the time I'm working odd jobs to pay the bills. I'm sure compared to most guys on this forum my bank account looks like a steaming pile of dog shit, but the up side is when a girl gets with me, I know it's real. First dates usually consist of a fast food joint, and if she can get over the fact that I drive a rusted out shit box, I know I've got her. They might get with me for physical reasons, but I'm okay with that. In this respect, I consider myself very lucky that I've never been taken for a ride.