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  1. #10232
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesLover  [View Original Post]
    Friends, first of all, thank you for your help.

    I must say that Colombia is disappointing me a lot. I am used to Africa where the girls are just plain gorgeous. I am talking about their character because the black of their skin can like it or it cannot like it.

    They are kind, sweet and helpful and affectionate. They do everything without asking for anything in return, even if they expect help, but without asking. Then you are the one who gives something to these poor girls.
    I don't know how to explain this to you. People, who perform a service as a means of supporting their family, expect to be paid. If I call a plumber they are going to tell me what the minimum service charge will be. They don't just show up and hope, after doing the work, I will pay them something.

    Why would you expect women who sell sex to be different? If they just hope the guys will decide to give them a fair amount of money for their service there would be a lot of starving hookers. If it bothers you that prostitutes expect to be paid, you really need to reconsider your choice to seek out prostitutes.

    You tell me there are only prostitutes in Santa Fe? I would say not only in Santa Fe but in every corner of Colombia. You can't talk to a girl without her asking for money.

    I talked to about 200 girls on social networks and they all wanted money. A lot of money. As soon as they ask for money, I cut off the communication. Now I don't talk to anyone anymore. I run the risk of being left alone in Colombia.
    Again, I'm not sure how to explain this. The girls in Santa Fe, who stand around, scantily dressed and smile at the men passing by, are prostitutes. That is what Zeos was talking about. It shouldn't be confusing. Is it common where you're from for women to stand around on the street, wearing only lingerie, and try to get guys to come fuck them for free? If so, can you tell us where that is?

    Of course the girls who you are talking to on social media are asking you for money. Why not? If 50 guys contact them on social media, 49 of the guys will never even come to Colombia and at least 25 guys are trying to get them to send free photos and videos. So why not ask? You're probably someone who is just wasting their time. That's not a judgement on you, it's just the reality that most guys are just wasting the girls time.

    It is horrible, really horrible. Thinking if a girl touches her tits she wants money, and if you touch her pussy she wants more money.
    I don't know what Colombia you're talking about. I've never encountered this. I pay the women I see between 150-250 k, they usually stay for well over an hour, often for several hours, and there's no mention of money, once the price has been agreed upon. On rare occasions they won't be interested in much kissing. On rare occasions they will grab the condom before giving a blowjob. However, most of the time it's cuddling, touching, kissing, oral, any position and lots of affection.

    Maybe it will be that I'm old and I can't stand these things anymore.

    Who is the semi-pro? Quickly said: a girl who is doing university and sometimes to pay for her studies or to have fun, has to sell her body. I met students of Medecina and Economics. Smart and affectionate girls. When you are with these girls you love them. I like to fall in love. They are sweet and loving. Nothing to do with the pros who only do that job, they treat you badly and where inside their pussy there is maybe shit.
    There's not a single girl in university, anywhere in the world, who needs to sell pussy to complete strangers in order to have fun. Whether or not they need to sell pussy to support their studies is debatable. The key word is "need. " I think In many cases, selling pussy gets them more money for less effort. Why work 30 hours a week when you can make more fucking for 3 hours?

    Why does that only apply to university students? Many of the women I've been with in Colombia work some other job, often 2 or 3 jobs. When the opportunity to earn more in an hour than they earn working 4 days, they take it.

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    I don't know what women in Colombia you're talking about treating you badly. Most of the girls I've been with have treated me very well. That includes the ones who are complete pros.

    Whether they are pros and semi-pros, if they are treating you badly it probably has something to do with you. And the only reason they are being sweet and loving it's because they are doing what is necessary to get paid. Women who fuck strangers for money don't tend to fall in love with every customer. Customers who fall in love with every hooker probably should find a new hobby.

    Two guys also asked me for money on Badoo, when I asked for information about a city. Only a very nice girl refused to meet me and she wanted to be my friend but she didn't ask me for money.

    Is Colombia this? It is truly ugly in relationships between people, it is beautiful only in places.

    By now I have bought a ticket for Colombia but I am already sorry because I do not know where to go.
    It's amazing how you can be an expert on the people of Colombia, without first meeting the people of Colombia. Colombians are some of the friendliest people in the world. The girls in Colombia are sweet and affectionate. However, since you've already decided what everyone is like, it's unlikely you'll discover that.

  2. #10231
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Fucking around with Master Monger yesterday...
    Care to name the place and address? Are the extras per chica or pay once and good for all?

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterMonger  [View Original Post]
    Don't overpay.

    Most will quote 30,000 to 40,000 for a half hour...
    Excellent post. Do you pay before or after (and mention this during negotiation)? They seem to have all the leverage and don't give a shit if you pay before.

    Anyone think there are better street pickings currently than Bogota in Medellin or other, smaller cities like Ibague, Manizales, Cucuta, Barranquilla, etc.?

  3. #10230
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2288  [View Original Post]
    Flight: We left Houston an hour and 20 minutes late. We landed around 10:40 pm. Getting through customs and getting bags was a, landed at 10:40 and in the cab with Pesos (exchange in the airport waiting for bags) by 11:15, but the drive up to Chapinero to drop off bags killed most chances of a fun evening. Got it cause it's a guest friendly AirBnB and nobody watches you come or go.

    When I got back just before 1:00, police had roads blocked off and they were clearing the streets. I grabbed a skinny 20 or so year old Venezuelan girl and followed her to her location. Walked in, paid the fee, then it was all upsell and talk about her daughter and needing money yada yada. It was a bit of a buzz kill but it got the job done. Barely. After all the upsell, damage was $250 mil. A little high but the BBBJ & BBFS was a treat. Because I couldn't get into a club and there weren't many girls left in Santa Fe, the taxi driver recommended a place up north. Guessing he gets kickbacks for dropping gringos off. Had a beer, bought the lady a drink. Then I asked how it worked. House fee of 250 mil, 1 hour with the girl at that place - $750 mil. Sooo, around $250 USA Dollars. That surprised me, so I decided to call it a night. I was already exhausted and felt this place was overpriced or I was getting taken advantage of. Asked for the bill for the 2 drinks - 130 mil. What?! LOL. I left and went to the room.

    Day 2: Didn't sleep great. Way too much traffic noise and the room was cold. Messaged a handful of girls on mileroticos. Mia from Girls 24/7 responded and headed over. Ma 311xxxx549. She was a nice girl. A little more tattoos than I prefer, but she was my only option.
    There are 2 Covid test sites at the airport in Bogota. Site number 1 is the building across the street from the terminal. That's the busy site with the long line. Site number 2 is in the white tents as you're driving towards the terminal. You can schedule your appointment online. I think I got out of there about 10 minutes after my appointment time. There was a long line waiting for site 1 when I got there and no line for site 2.

    https://www.synlab.com/lab/aeropuerto-el-dorado

  4. #10229
    Quote Originally Posted by NRandom940  [View Original Post]
    Is Fiebre Night Club in the tolerance zone?
    Yes. It is in Santa Fe right next to the other fuck clubs: Troya, Paisa, Atunes, Atonis.

  5. #10228
    Fucking around with Master Monger yesterday and he took me to a spot where you pay 50K to enter and you get to fuck 4 chicks. The chicks come into the room 1 at a time for 20 minute intervals and you have up to 2 hours to get your 50K worth. We got there at 6:40 yesterday and they close at 8, so the guy only charged me 40K. I immediately grabbed a chick and went into a room. She explained to me how it worked. Kissing mouth, tits, pussy 30K extra. Oral without condom 20K extra. Anal 40K extra. Two girls at one time 50K extra. I went bare bones and did not pay extra for anything.

    The first girl (Venezuelan) came in CBJ, Fuck. I told her to send the second girl. I was lazy so only got a back and dick massage from her. I told her to send in the third girl. CBJ, Fuck. She sent in the fourth girl and I just got a handjob from her. Good Times. Happy Days.
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  6. #10227
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2288  [View Original Post]
    the taxi driver recommended a place up north. Guessing he gets kickbacks for dropping gringos off. Had a beer, bought the lady a drink. Then I asked how it worked. House fee of 250 mil, 1 hour with the girl at that place - $750 mil. Sooo, around $250 USA Dollars. That surprised me, so I decided to call it a night. I was already exhausted and felt this place was overpriced or I was getting taken advantage of. Asked for the bill for the 2 drinks - 130 mil. What?!
    A few tips. 1. Stay away from the North.

    2. Always ask for a menu or how much something costs before you go willy nilly ordering things. Me and some friends walked into a cabaret in Nice, France. They immediately ordered drinks while I asked for a menu. The cheapest thing in the menu was water at 35 euro. Their drinks were 40 euro each.

    3. If you are going to take advice from a taxi driver then make sure you specify what you are looking for. In 3rd world places, because we are foreigners then they assume we want to go somewhere to spend big money. I make sure to tell taxi drivers to take me to a place they would normally go, not some expensive ripoff bullshit.

  7. #10226
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesLover  [View Original Post]
    But I disagree with you. I have never visited a country in the world like Colombia, where people are nice, but not prostitutes or who wants to have sex with you.

    I have been to the Philippines and a girl had lost her mind over me talking to her only online. She was getting depressed day by day since I told her I didn't want to meet her. I didn't like that girl because she was too short. She made me promise to only meet me for 10 minutes in a park because she was madly in love with me. I met her and we talked for 30 minutes in the park and saw her very happy and excited.

    I have had various stories like this around the world. I don't think these stories can be repeated in Colombia.
    Maybe they can't be repeated for you, but I have had stories like this in Colombia for the last 16 years. I do not know what Colombia you have been to or are thinking about going to. You make it seem like people are all cold and stone-faced.

    I remember the first time I was on the phone with an ex-girlfriend in Cali. I told her that I was coming to see her. When we said bye she mistakenly did not hang up her phone. I heard her literally screaming with joy. We are still friends and I bring it up to her sometimes. You still have not been clear on what you are looking for. Do you want a hooker to show you love, or look for romance with a normal woman? My lawyer chick in Colombia seemed to be pretty happy after sleeping by my side the other night.

    On the hooker side of the game, I wrote a report in the Medellin thread about a hooker that came to see me yesterday morning in Bogota. "All I know is that she came over this morning for a couple of hours for 150,000. She walked through the door, dropped to her knees, and started sucking my dick. Then she asked me if I wanted a massage. Then after the massage she fucked the brakes off of me and went to get a hot washcloth when we finished. Then she came and cuddled up next to me. " I don't know what to tell you man; our experiences of Colombia are night and day.
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  8. #10225

    Santa Fe prices

    Don't overpay.

    Most will quote 30,000 to 40,000 for a half hour and DFK is usually free if you ask in advance if not I would move on. BBBJ+BBFS should be around a 30,000 upgrade but you need to tell them you won't come inside. I just realized these girls are not worried about STi's only getting pregnant which makes sense as STI's are more of nuisance than a deterrent from not using a crappy feeling condom. If STI's were dangerous me and about 50 mongers I know personally would be dead after 1000's of girls.

    Anyway, I get them to come back to my place on Calle 40 for 1 hour BBBJ and BBFS for 100,000 which is actually a bit expensive considering the average pay of the under educated in Bogota is less than 2,000,000 a month. In essence a streetwalker could make 20 times that amount at that price. All night is harder to negotiate if it is your first time with the girl, you shouldn't even bother but if you like her get her number and offer her 150,000 - 200,000 for all night starting at about midnight. I cherry pick the youngest and best looking girls so don't think that matters! Also, right now I am about 270 lbs so don't think your appearance matters that much as long as your are "very clean" and smell good.

    Don't Screw up the market, offer the prices I said and then walk away the next time you see them they will accept.

    Happy mongering.

    MM.

  9. #10224

    Airbnb

    Would you mind sharing the Airbnb you stayed at?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2288  [View Original Post]
    Flight: We left Houston an hour and 20 minutes late. We landed around 10:40 pm. Getting through customs and getting bags was a, landed at 10:40 and in the cab with Pesos (exchange in the airport waiting for bags) by 11:15, but the drive up to Chapinero to drop off bags killed most chances of a fun evening. Got it cause it's a guest friendly AirBnB and nobody watches you come or go.

    When I got back just before 1:00, police had roads blocked off and they were clearing the streets. I grabbed a skinny 20 or so year old Venezuelan girl and followed her to her location. Walked in, paid the fee, then it was all upsell and talk about her daughter and needing money yada yada. It was a bit of a buzz kill but it got the job done. Barely. After all the upsell, damage was $250 mil. A little high but the BBBJ & BBFS was a treat. Because I couldn't get into a club and there weren't many girls left in Santa Fe, the taxi driver recommended a place up north. Guessing he gets kickbacks for dropping gringos off. Had a beer, bought the lady a drink. Then I asked how it worked. House fee of 250 mil, 1 hour with the girl at that place - $750 mil. Sooo, around $250 USA Dollars. That surprised me, so I decided to call it a night. I was already exhausted and felt this place was overpriced or I was getting taken advantage of. Asked for the bill for the 2 drinks - 130 mil. What?! LOL. I left and went to the room.

  10. #10223
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2288  [View Original Post]
    Flight: We left Houston an hour and 20 minutes late. We landed around 10:40 pm. Getting through customs and getting bags was a, landed at 10:40 and in the cab with Pesos (exchange in the airport waiting for bags) by 11:15, but the drive up to Chapinero to drop off bags killed most chances of a fun evening. Got it cause it's a guest friendly AirBnB and nobody watches you come or go.

    When I got back just before 1:00, police had roads blocked off and they were clearing the streets. I grabbed a skinny 20 or so year old Venezuelan girl and followed her to her location. Walked in, paid the fee, then it was all upsell and talk about her daughter and needing money yada yada. It was a bit of a buzz kill but it got the job done. Barely. After all the upsell, damage was $250 mil. A little high but the BBBJ & BBFS was a treat. Because I couldn't get into a club and there weren't many girls left in Santa Fe, the taxi driver recommended a place up north. Guessing he gets kickbacks for dropping gringos off. Had a beer, bought the lady a drink. Then I asked how it worked. House fee of 250 mil, 1 hour with the girl at that place - $750 mil. Sooo, around $250 USA Dollars. That surprised me, so I decided to call it a night. I was already exhausted and felt this place was overpriced or I was getting taken advantage of. Asked for the bill for the 2 drinks - 130 mil. What?! LOL. I left and went to the room.

    Day 2: Didn't sleep great. Way too much traffic noise and the room was cold. Messaged a handful of girls on mileroticos. Mia from Girls 24/7 responded and headed over. Ma 311xxxx549. She was a nice girl. A little more tattoos than I prefer, but she was my only option.].
    Covid test at Idime in Chapinero.

    50 k for antigen. Got my results in less than 5 hours.

  11. #10222
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    There is also a zona de tolerencia in Chapinero. Again, not every woman in these places are hookers as you would have people believe. You even see people (men, women, people with their kids, etc) walking through the tolerance zone in Santa Fe in the morning and evening going back and forth between home and work.
    Is Fiebre Night Club in the tolerance zone?

  12. #10221

    Day 1 - Flight Delayed

    Flight: We left Houston an hour and 20 minutes late. We landed around 10:40 pm. Getting through customs and getting bags was a, landed at 10:40 and in the cab with Pesos (exchange in the airport waiting for bags) by 11:15, but the drive up to Chapinero to drop off bags killed most chances of a fun evening. Got it cause it's a guest friendly AirBnB and nobody watches you come or go.

    When I got back just before 1:00, police had roads blocked off and they were clearing the streets. I grabbed a skinny 20 or so year old Venezuelan girl and followed her to her location. Walked in, paid the fee, then it was all upsell and talk about her daughter and needing money yada yada. It was a bit of a buzz kill but it got the job done. Barely. After all the upsell, damage was $250 mil. A little high but the BBBJ & BBFS was a treat. Because I couldn't get into a club and there weren't many girls left in Santa Fe, the taxi driver recommended a place up north. Guessing he gets kickbacks for dropping gringos off. Had a beer, bought the lady a drink. Then I asked how it worked. House fee of 250 mil, 1 hour with the girl at that place - $750 mil. Sooo, around $250 USA Dollars. That surprised me, so I decided to call it a night. I was already exhausted and felt this place was overpriced or I was getting taken advantage of. Asked for the bill for the 2 drinks - 130 mil. What?! LOL. I left and went to the room.

    Day 2: Didn't sleep great. Way too much traffic noise and the room was cold. Messaged a handful of girls on mileroticos. Mia from Girls 24/7 responded and headed over. Mía 311xxxx549. She was a nice girl. A little more tattoos than I prefer, but she was my only option.

    Showered and caught a cab back to the airport to do the COVID test. Got to the airport at 10:45. Long line and standing outside. And that's where I'm at now. Hour and 20 minutes later and haven't made it through the door. A hotel test would've been nice, but again, at an AirBnB.

  13. #10220

    Santa Fe

    I had a good experience in Santa Fe last night. After taking a stroll through the area, I found two attractive girls stand-in next to each other on the east side of Carrera 16 between Calle 23 and Calle 24. One quoted me 50 K pesos. I said, "gracias," and requested a price from the other one. She told me 40 K pesos for 15 minutes. I asked whether I should expect the knock at 15 minutes. She said we had to exit the room within 15 minutes. I decided to give her a shot. I asked her if I could ruby baby oil on her body. She said no. I asked why. She said she was afraid there might be something harmful in my baby oil. I said (in Spanish), "that's fine, we can do it without the baby oil. " I confirmed that I could still rub her body without the baby oil. I noted the time and used the clock app on my phone. I was able to come in about 9-10 minutes with her energetic covered blow job. The knock came at about the 11 minute mark.

    I would say this was a good experience because the girl was attractive, she made a good effort, I was able to come, and I didn't get into any arguments with her, but the experience was kind of rushed and impersonal. Considering that it was only 40 K pesos, I shouldn't complain, but I feel like this is not exactly what I'm looking for. Maybe I should try longer sessions with the best performers I've identified so far or maybe I should take another shot at the casas in Chapinero. I could also look for girls on various apps.

    Has anyone tried paying for the room directly and making a separate payment to the girl instead of letting the girl pay for the room? I'm thinking that interacting with the motel staff directly would help to clarify when the knock is supposed to come. I think if I pay for a longer session, I should insist on doing it that way.

  14. #10219
    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    I must disagree with most of what you said. In fact, I think it insulted an entire country. Best you change destinations.
    But I disagree with you. I have never visited a country in the world like Colombia, where people are nice, but not prostitutes or who wants to have sex with you.

    I have been to the Philippines and a girl had lost her mind over me talking to her only online. She was getting depressed day by day since I told her I didn't want to meet her. I didn't like that girl because she was too short. She made me promise to only meet me for 10 minutes in a park because she was madly in love with me. I met her and we talked for 30 minutes in the park and saw her very happy and excited.

    I have had various stories like this around the world.

    I don't think these stories can be repeated in Colombia.

    If you just like to fuck, stay in Colombia. But since I'm not only interested in fucking but looking for a romance with the girl, I'll get away as soon as possible from Colombia.

    Have a good day.

  15. #10218
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    I have to ask are you white? Colombia has way more tourists and business travelers than almost any country in Africa. I too Love and got spoiled by Africa. But the reason why Africa is so great is because the economies are worse and they get way less tourists. African women are motivated to get you to "love" them because It's quite possible that you're the only monger you'll meet in a while. If you check my DR posts from a year ago you'll see I had the same complaints. I will say I never had a desire to visit any Latin American country personally I literally knew and dated Colombian and Dominican women in the states, I still remember this skinny Dominicana Mariah Carey look a like with a face full of pimples that had the biggest crush on me. So to me a African American girl from the southern states were exotic to me in my heavily immigrant neighborhood in New York. The Only reason I'm here is because I had to go to the states and COVID.
    Yes, I am a white European. I am perfectly aware of the behavior of African girls towards white men, because I have been there many times in Africa and I would go there for life! I am only going to Colombia because there is not a single African state open for covid-19.

    Until a few years ago I did not like Africa and Africans because I have always preferred white women. But since I've been to Africa for the first time, things have turned upside down. I miss that sweetness and availability of black women.

    Brazil is a good country for long-term experiences but. Girls are not so sweet like african girls. Ahahahahaah.

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