Bogota Reports

[ArmnHammer69]

Had an awesome night even though it was still Monday and slower. I had 2 different two hour sessions with 2 of my favorite fiebre girls to help them get a little more cash before Christmas. One of the girls I'm crushing hard on trying to convince her to come to Cancun with me for Christmas. I've been all over Colombia but this girl fiebre is the perfect combination of sexy and cute after all my trips to Colombia and worldwide 70 countries and counting. Ibis is definitely my favorite hotel spot only brought one girl back just asked for cedula of course. 11,000 pesos Uber to andino. Home burgers right across the street best burgers in Colombia. Oxxo two minute walk and bank machine s galore. Cheap and reliable laundry place just up the hill from ibis by the gold museum just follow the white wall up the hill 10-20 k a bag.

[Kazeu]

This is what happened to me recently! I'm glad those F* got caught!

https://www.eltiempo.com/justicia/de...hombres-556368

[Kazeu]

I've asked this question in various forms. But I think I'll try again before I go back to an AirBnB. I like clean, comfortable 3* and up hotels with fluffy towels and clean sheets. I also like bringing chicas in without a hassle.

I saw a report that sounded like the Marriott didn't bother you. Is that true? Are there any other nice hotels that tolerate female guests? Or at least don't have a ridiculous chica fee?

The Hyatt Place in las corferias is brand new and girl friendly. I wrote to them before I arrived and they specifically told me that they would never charge extra for visitors. Its really a more business oriented hotel, so its not fancy but practical. I get the feeling they are used to random people coming in as they hold conferences / meetings here. You can get a suite if you want more space. The breakfast is decent and there is a bar in the lobby if you want to use it. Again not fancy, utiliitarian. The lobby is also on the 2nd floor, not the first. You can enter with your chica and after the guard takes your temperature, you go straight to the elevator and have the option of either stopping in the lobby on the 2nd floor to register your guest or going straight to your room.

Its a 5 minute cab ride to santa fe without traffic. A 7 minute cab ride to chapinero without traffic. Theres a mini exito a block away. The minuses: it can sometimes be difficult to get a cab / uber after 11 pm or so. There isn't much to do in the area unless you're going to some convention nearby. You're going to be taking a taxi or a bus anywhere you want to go. But I spend a lot of time in my hotel room, so that doesn't really bother me.

[Kazeu]

As a tourist your legal ID is your passport. That's the one you should be using. However, if you also have the passport card, you could probably use that as well.

Thats technically probably true. But practically speaking, most people don't care. I used an expired drivers license to enter a mall on Monday.

[Woodman09]

As a tourist your legal ID is your passport. That's the one you should be using. However, if you also have the passport card, you could probably use that as well.

In Most cases a copy of passport is fine or a drivers license-- Also it is very easy to doctor a scan of passport to change number to odd or even and then print out a b+W copy.

[GringoItaliano]

Here are the photos from my December 2020 trip.

[GringoItaliano]

I went to Bogota for my third trip to that city a few weeks after my trip to Medellin in November. I wanted to take further advantage of the pre-Christmas rush and squeeze in another trip while Colombia was still suspending the PCR test requirement and before Biden imprisons us in the Matrix. My interest in Bogota – specifically, the Santa Fe red light district – stemmed from what I saw of the renaissance of the Centro street scene in Medellin, which was richer than usual due to post-lockdown circumstances. I hoped that this would be an opportune time to take advantage of such circumstances in Santa Fe.

The Centro street scene in Medellin had evidently taken off due to slow business or closures at the usual indoor venues, health concerns about those indoor venues that were open, and general post-lockdown economic hardship. I had thought, as I planned my Medellin trip, that Internet pipelining would be the most fruitful form of mongering during a pandemic that had pushed so many other forms of labor and leisure into virtual settings. It did not occur to me until I saw the rebirth of the Centro street scene in Medellin that "outdoor mongering" would be another lifeline for this business, in much the same way that "outdoor dining" has been a lifeline for many struggling restaurants. Colombia's other main "outdoor mongering" venues are Bogota's Santa Fe district (in part) and Cartagena's Clock Tower. Cartagena is not my cup of tea, so Santa Fe was the obvious choice for my next trip.

I flew from Miami on a reasonably priced American Airlines ticket that I bought only two days in advance, just in case the Colombian government reinstated the PCR test requirement. I stayed again at Hotel Ibis Bogota Museo, which is cheap, convenient to Santa Fe, and participates in Accor's loyalty program. According to English-language paperwork that I signed upon check-in (which I did not see on previous trips), the hotel is still chica-friendly, but only allows one chica at a time. I had read that some hotels had changed their chica-friendly policies due to the pandemic, but this one evidently has not.

The general contours of Santa Fe's landscape remained much the same as before, except for the disappointing closure of Atunes during my visit. That daytime / happy hour club was one of my preferred spots in Santa Fe and yielded many of my best sessions during my previous two trips. Paisas also closed for a few nights earlier in the week, possibly due to low volume. It was noticeably slower than I remembered from previous trips, even when it was open later in the week. Paisas appears to have lost some of its market share to the more consistently busy Fiebre and Troya, or to the street scene. As before, I found that the quality of the nighttime talent and service was best at Fiebre.

The biggest and most significant shift seems to have been in both the numbers and the quality of the girls working the street, relative to the clubs. There has always been significant overlap between the street girls and the club girls, in contrast to the sharper distinctions between street girls and club girls in Tijuana. As they always have, many Santa Fe girls go back and forth between the street and the clubs as they see fit. It seemed to me that post-lockdown circumstances have shifted some of the talent pool, including some of the hotter girls and the better performers, away from the clubs and toward the street. I asked some of the girls about this observation, and some of them said that: a) working the clubs had become less profitable because guys had less money to spend and thus went more frequently for the cheaper option of buying pussy off the street; and b) they and some guys were concerned about the health risks of the clubs' often crowded indoor environments. This shift marked an interesting parallel to Tijuana, where the closure of clubs by the authorities forced many club girls to work the street for a fraction of what they earned at the clubs, as I saw when I went there earlier this year.

Some mongers have suggested that post-lockdown circumstances would create a "buyer's market," believing that economic hardship would flood the market with girls, make them more amenable to lower prices, or motivate them to provide better service. As in Medellin, I found this observation to be true in many cases, but wrong in other cases. Economic desperation is not always a good or reliable motivation to provide quality service. It merely motivates the desperate to obtain money, but not necessarily to give good value in exchange for that money. In an environment like Santa Fe, where payment up front is the norm and repeat business is less of a factor than it is in the Facebook scene of Medellin, I found that the benefits of this hardship factor were weaker than they were in Medellin.

Accordingly, this trip definitely had more extreme highs and lows. Santa Fe has always been a hit-or-miss, "diamonds in the rough" type of market, but this variability was even more pronounced on this trip. The solid performers really knocked it out of the park in a way that I had not experienced since my first trip, and perhaps even more so. Curiously, many of the solid performers were costenas from places like Santa Marta or Baranquilla. The solid performances from costenas were so consistent that it could not have been a fluke; I am convinced that there must be some cultural, physical, or other reason for it. This part of Colombia has little reputation for mongering outside Cartagena, where most of the girls come from Medellin, other parts of the country, or Venezuela. I have wanted to go to Santa Marta for a long time for non-mongering reasons, but now I am curious what the local women are like, and if my experiences with costenas on this trip give me any reasonable idea of what to expect there.

By the same token, many performances were poor and half-assed, such that I might have protested if the sums of money involved had not been so small. The recurring theme with poor performers was that many of them were Venezuelans, which illustrates my point that desperation is not a reliable source of good service. I have long suspected that the Venezuelan impact on the pussy market in Colombia has been overrated, and now I am convinced. I do not doubt that cheap competition from Venezuelans helps to keep Colombians in check, but I do not see any other qualitative advantage that the Venezuelans offer, beyond increasing numbers and lowering prices. My Spanish has improved to the point that I can now recognize the Venezuelan accent, and to be honest I often find it irritating and hard to understand.

There did appear to be some truth to the notion that girls would be more willing to provide services that they would not have provided under normal circumstances. Santa Fe is a predominantly CBJ scene, but there are enough girls willing to do BBBJ (for a surcharge, of course) that one can still do well if CBJ is a showstopper, as it is for me. At first my success in negotiating BBBJ was higher than it had been in the past, but that improvement deteriorated over the course of my week-long trip. One possible explanation for this deterioration, according to one girl, was that the girls saw me there so often that they viewed me as too high of a risk for BBBJ because "I get around" (cue the 2 PAC song).

I have now spent enough time in Santa Fe to see patterns in the geographic distribution of the street girls and figure out what works best for me. I have usually gotten my best results with girls on the side of the street across from the rear entrance of La Piscina, which I have come to call "Silicone Alley. " The girls here are often more stacked, thicker, taller, and somewhat older, with stronger erotic skills and a better sense of customer service. To the south there is a higher concentration of young skinny girls whose cedulas you should check before you partake, as well as some black girls from Cali. The skinny young girls are generally not my cup of tea, and to the extent that I did sample this segment of the talent pool, I was often disappointed. Black girls from Cali rarely disappoint, however. To the west, along the street with the rear entrances to Troya and Paisas, the talent and the service is mixed.

I have included some photos of girls that I took. As in the past, the vast majority of Santa Fe girls are not photo-friendly. Not only do they typically refuse requests for photos, they will often become hostile or ask for more money in return. I consider myself lucky to have gotten this many, as few as they are.

[YyzTravel]

OK guys, been home for a few days after a 7 days trip. Here is a full trip report for everyone. The flight to Bogota was a breeze, I was able to snag Delta1 seating for sub $500 so it was a no-brainer and an easy flight. Customs was a breeze, just have your check-mig filled out and I was through customs and the luggage pick up spot in under 10 minutes. There are many ATMs in the luggage pick up area, choose which one works for you, and get some cash there if needed. Uber is not allowed at the airport to pick up directly, if you want to use them you have to walk offsite which I highly do not recommend. It was 35 mil for me to take a black car to my hotel in ZonaT. Before a lot of you haters get started on "YYZ overpays for shit". I frankly don't care so save it. The hotel was nice, got a suite there and paid sub-$100 a night which included a full breakfast daily with English-speaking employees. The hotel was guest friendly, but I just made sure not to bring back girls who were clearly prepagos. Anyone I was with I would ask them to dress like a lady and I had zero problems.

I did a mix of clubs, Bumble (which is great for non-pros if you are least semi-attractive), and visited Santa Fe once. I did the Woodman tour and would highly recommend it. Santa Fe is a spot I would never go to down by myself, and it's not that I was afraid there, it's just dirty and disgusting. I did get a nice BBBJ from a young street girl there, but it was so bad I stopped partway through and just left to continue the tour. Woodman knew the area, showed me all the clubs, and helped get snacks, etc. Some guys are saying that "why do you need to pay Woodman?" - It's because it's his job. And he was worth every penny of the cost. He showed me the clubs, helped me negotiate show costs, and made sure the meseros didn't rip me off for a first-time visitor there. In short, we spend about 4 hours together and it was really nice to see, but outside of just partying a bit that was all for the night. Woodman is cool as hell, and just chilling with the guy was fun in itself. Thank you, Woodman!

I visited numerous casas, massage parlors and, 3 main clubs up near ZonaT. Olympia, CasaNova, and Lido. Some nights were amazing with 40+ girl lineups, other nights when some board members came it was not so great, and apologies guys but it really was better the nights before. Hung out with MSanchez a few times, and that guy is cool as hell. When you enter the club all the girls line up and stand there until you pick one. I'm picky, and even if I know who I want I will make them wait. Both nights I ended up with girls who I ended up bringing back to my hotel, and then am still talking to even as of this morning on Whats App. Be warned, each time you order a drink you should pay in advance. Both of my girls confirmed that the meseros will intentionally take the menu and then try to rip you off for the check. Keep the menu, and each time you order a drink or bottle you pay upfront in cash. Otherwise, at the end they want to tack some crazy "service" fee on there. Unfortunately, both Msanchez and I got ripped off at Casanova for probably 100 Mil each, but my second girl actually ended up so upset about this she gave it back to me out of her pocket when I told her. (I didn't take it, but she just didn't like me getting mistreated). That's the same night she told me "leche en todo papicito", which for my fairly decent Spanish means "cum inside me daddy". Almost blew a hole in that girls back I came so hard with the grinding thing she did.

I'm not sure what most of you guys want, but for me, it's not always about fucking, but it's the thrill of the hunt. Columbian girls are passionate if you find the right ones, and I will be damned if not one but both of the girls I was talking to on the second night ended up turning down money from me one of them going to BBFS and her telling me she developed feelings for me. My goal for these trips is to enjoy my time, spend 50% of the time with just quick girls in casas or parlors, and the other 50% my aim is to vet and find a few long term girls to visit in the future, or even import to me on trips. I like dating and girlfriends. Cost-wise, the average massage parlor was 150-200 k for an hour, and most club girls wanted 300 k-500 k for TLN. I spent about 800 - 1.2 M daily between high-end food, dating, shopping, and sex sometimes 3-4 times daily. Again, for those you who say "you overpaid". I don't care. I'm not rich , but I don't do 2-3 month trips like you guys, so my time there is more valuable than getting the best deal every possible time. Also, ProTip here: Lecethin. This stuff really increases cum volume. Grab a bottle on Amazon and bring it with you. I took about 8-12 a day (they are giant pills) - but really do increase the volume which makes having sex 3-4 daily for a week possible and far more enjoyable. Also, don't go with that off-market Viagra or Cialis. GoodRX you can get 30 100 MG Viagra a month for about $24 USD. I break them in 1/2 and can literally fuck, cum, and fuck again while staying hard with those things. I don't need them, I just want them so I can turn a session into a solid 30+ min of intercourse with these.

Leaving Bogota was easy. Called an Uber and was there in about 30 minutes around 7:00 am. The airport was fast customs wise, just the check-mig form again, the usual customs declarations when checking my bag and then to the gate. I got there too early, so I suggest 2 hours before a flight, not 3. Not a lot is open there early, so did a ton of just sitting at the gate before boarding the plane. I was back asleep before we even took off and just woke up for the meal service and then back to bed after a super long night the night before. I'm heading back to MDE in January for 15 days, and sure enough one of the Bogota girls I'm now going to bring with me as a wing-woman. Will buy her ticket and food, but otherwise not paying her otherwise. Before the player haters come out and tell me I'm bringing sand to the beach, she knows the drill and is going to help me crush a lot of pussy with hopefully some really passionate threesomes as she is into girls too and really wants me as her Papi Chulo which I would be totally fine with. If anyone is in MDE from 1/19 - 1/30 let me know. Let's get out and first bottle in the club is on me.

[YyzTravel]

I've asked this question in various forms. But I think I'll try again before I go back to an AirBnB. I like clean, comfortable 3* and up hotels with fluffy towels and clean sheets. I also like bringing chicas in without a hassle.

I saw a report that sounded like the Marriott didn't bother you. Is that true? Are there any other nice hotels that tolerate female guests? Or at least don't have a ridiculous chica fee?

I stayed at the AC Hotel Zona T just last week and I brought nearly 7 or 8 different girls up with me. The key is they just couldn't be dressed like a prostitute, and we just had to walk in as we belonged. No issues there. It's in a much higher class area than other spots of Bogota, so it's family oriented. Don't give them cause to stop you, and they won't.

[TiaVoyage25]

I've asked this question in various forms. But I think I'll try again before I go back to an AirBnB. I like clean, comfortable 3* and up hotels with fluffy towels and clean sheets. I also like bringing chicas in without a hassle.

I saw a report that sounded like the Marriott didn't bother you. Is that true? Are there any other nice hotels that tolerate female guests? Or at least don't have a ridiculous chica fee?

Ibis near SF and B3 in Zona Rosa were guest friendly on my trip pre-COVID. In advance of my trip next week I emailed to see if they had any policy changes but am still waiting. Both hotels are quite nice with good Wi-Fi and a restaurant / bar in the lobby.

[LatinaLover#1]

When P & P was announced they said only one person in a restaurant. Now yesterday they reversed course.

"Cada medida sanitaria que hemos tomado en Bogotá busca un equilibrio entre el cuidado de la salud why de la economía.

Escuchando a pequeños empresarios why tras un acuerdo con ellos en control de aforos why horarios, hemos levantado medida de #PicoYCedula para restaurantes why hoteles. ".

Lot's of resistance from the banking and business community in Bogota to any more shutdowns or quarantine. However, with ICU's filling up I don't trust Lopez for a minute from going rouge and flipping Bogota upside down again. My usual MO is to go to Bogota every 6 weeks or so or my novia to come to the states so I was scheduled to go back to Bogota January 14th but we decided better she comes here. Too much aggravation dealing with P&P one day this, next day that. While I don't see the PCR ever returning again I do see a full lock down in Bogota and possible Airport shutdown. I'm not down for weeks on end being stuck in a Bogota hotel, especially the way the administration is constantly moving the goal post.

[TiaVoyage25]

Gentlemen,

After a year and a half, I will be returning to Colombia next Tuesday for at least 3 weeks, but up to 6 weeks. Small chance I change my flight to visit Brazil on the front end in order to avoid their new PCR test requirement that takes effect on the 30th, but that would only delay the trip by about 10 days. This trip, I plan to visit all Bogota has to offer since I have so much time. SF, northern clubs, MPs, and casas. In previous trips I spent most of my time in SF out of convenience.

Bottom line. I know that I have not contributed much to the forum to deserve the collected wisdom of its members. I'm hoping that my few trip reports from last year are enough to garner some favor in answering a few questions, so that I may have a good time and give back to the forum in the form of detailed reports during the visit. And if that isn't enough, I am happy to share a funny story of an unforgettable experience when I was staying at the famous White House in Medellin. The hook, line, and sinker: I was awoken in the middle of the night to the sound of police raiding the place.

To avoid redundancy and looking like a fool, I have done significant RTFF prior to forming the questions below:

1.) My plan is to stay at Ibis (near SF) and B3 (Zona Rosa). Both of those places were guest friendly during my last visit pre-COVID, but am unsure if the policy remains so? I have done my due diligence but have not yet heard back from the hotel staff. If this has changed, or anyone has any better guest-friendly recommendations (to include AirBnBs), please reach out.

2.) As previously stated, I will be going through the full gamut of all Bogota has to offer, but for the days I'm feeling lazy and don't want to leave the hotel, does anyone have any recommended agencies? La Celestina was pretty good for me in the past but don't know how covid has impacted their operations. I will use photoprepagos and mileroticos as I have also done in the past, but am looking for the "easy button" on the days I just need to take a knee and drink water.

3.) Will I need to show a return trip ticket when I go through customs / immigrations upon arrival? Research tells me that this is sometimes the case, but looking to get the latest from recent travelers. I haven't had to show a return trip before but you never know with the current COVID situation.

4.) Pico why Cedula. I've read the news articles and have the dual ID info from previous posts, but is there anything else I should be aware of before arriving from guys on the ground? Any anticipated shutdowns of specific businesses or travel?

Thanks in advance for any information, and as previously stated, any assistance will help me write better trip reports in the coming weeks! I recently purchased a membership so am open to messages that are better suited for PMs as well.

Oh and Woodman, I'll be reaching out soon to arrange a tour!

Happy Holidays,

TIA.

[JjBee62]

OK guys, I know I am going to get hammered for this but I have RTFF and I think I know what this is all about but would like some feedback from those in the know or Boots on the Ground. I just got an email from the embassy in Bogot saying that the pico why Cedula will go back into effect through Christmas and into the new year. My questions are how does this affect tourists? How will this affect me if I want to take a taxi to an MP or a hotel or whatever? Will it affect walking around in Santa Fe, etc. Etc. Any help will be appreciated. Feel free to dog cuss me about RTFF if you must, but I just got the email yesterday. And just like the Covid restrictions they seem to change on a daily basis.

El Mechanico.

As a tourist your legal ID is your passport. That's the one you should be using. However, if you also have the passport card, you could probably use that as well.

[ShadowJ]

I've asked this question in various forms. But I think I'll try again before I go back to an AirBnB. I like clean, comfortable 3* and up hotels with fluffy towels and clean sheets. I also like bringing chicas in without a hassle.

I saw a report that sounded like the Marriott didn't bother you. Is that true? Are there any other nice hotels that tolerate female guests? Or at least don't have a ridiculous chica fee?

[El Mechanico]

From what I've read, it doesn't affect movement around the city. You may be asked for you ID when you enter more proper establishments. I doubt you'll be asked for a massage parlor, but in anycase, just bring two ID's one ending in an odd number and one ending in an even number.

https://www.eltiempo.com/bogota/vuelve-el-pico-y-cedula-a-bogota-tras-incremento-de-casos-de-covid-556041

That's what I was thinking. My DL ends in an odd number & passport ends in an even number. I have contacted several prepagos and the answer seems to be the same. Unless I am going to a supermarket, bank, mall. Department store, etc, I won't be stopped or interrogated. Thanks for your response.

El Mechanico.