Bogota Reports

[JhuaP]

JhuaP - Just clarifying. There is Zona T which is in the north which is where all the night clubs and fancy restaurants are and is real safe, even late at night unless you do stupid things. It is where I sometimes stay for work. It is nice to visit but not a mongering area. Well, except for the swinger clubs.

Zona Tolerance is Santa Fe which sounds like where you are staying. It is where you need to be much more careful and consider hoping in a taxi right out of the club late at night if you are not experienced. Definitely get a membership and contact Woodman.

Thanks for the info. I did change my Airbnb today to be in Zone T proper. (before I thought zone T meant Tolerance Zone). I checked the place I was going to stay at more thoroughly and figure better change to be on the safe side.

This way, I can jump on a cab to go down to SF, and I can change things up if I want to.

I will message Woodman, but what membership should I be getting?

[Mr Enternational]

JhuaP - Just clarifying. There is Zona T which is in the north which is where all the night clubs and fancy restaurants are

I thought that was Zona Rosa.

[JackTaggart]

Yes, you need to be aware of your surroundings. Colombia's a little more dangerous than CR / Thailand.

Zona T's up in the north. Just a bunch of typical nightclubs and restaurants. You're staying near "Santa Fe", where the hoes at.

Message Woodman to get a tour. It's cheap and worth it, at least to know the prices.

JhuaP - Just clarifying. There is Zona T which is in the north which is where all the night clubs and fancy restaurants are and is real safe, even late at night unless you do stupid things. It is where I sometimes stay for work. It is nice to visit but not a mongering area. Well, except for the swinger clubs.

Zona Tolerance is Santa Fe which sounds like where you are staying. It is where you need to be much more careful and consider hoping in a taxi right out of the club late at night if you are not experienced. Definitely get a membership and contact Woodman.

[BearEmy84]

Hey everyone,

I'm new here on ISG, but I have viewed the forums on a number of occasions over the years while 'traveling' the world.

I should start by thanking everyone that inputs in this forum, lots of good information to learn, so thank you for your time and effort.

I'm heading to Bogota and SF on June 16 for a few days. It won't be my first time in Colombia and I speak decent Spanish. From what I've been reading, it will be a little different from Thailand, CR (Jaco) or Panama.

I booked a guest friendly Airbnb near carrera 5 and calle 19, Torre Barcelona, It look like a close walk from the action or taxi ride.

From what I read, I'll have to keep my eyes a lot more open than places like Thailand or Jaco. Does everyone leave the Zone T before nightfall? Or do you just jump into a taxi ASAP if you stay late into the night.

If anyone is around during that time in June and would like to grab a beer, hit me up.

I will also pass along any new information I learn, ect. Or if people have questions about other places around the world.

Yes, you need to be aware of your surroundings. Colombia's a little more dangerous than CR / Thailand.

Zona T's up in the north. Just a bunch of typical nightclubs and restaurants. You're staying near "Santa Fe", where the hoes at.

Message Woodman to get a tour. It's cheap and worth it, at least to know the prices.

[JhuaP]

Hey everyone,

I'm new here on ISG, but I have viewed the forums on a number of occasions over the years while 'traveling' the world.

I should start by thanking everyone that inputs in this forum, lots of good information to learn, so thank you for your time and effort.

I'm heading to Bogota and SF on June 16 for a few days. It won't be my first time in Colombia and I speak decent Spanish. From what I've been reading, it will be a little different from Thailand, CR (Jaco) or Panama.

I booked a guest friendly Airbnb near carrera 5 and calle 19, Torre Barcelona, It look like a close walk from the action or taxi ride.

From what I read, I'll have to keep my eyes a lot more open than places like Thailand or Jaco. Does everyone leave the Zone T before nightfall? Or do you just jump into a taxi ASAP if you stay late into the night.

If anyone is around during that time in June and would like to grab a beer, hit me up.

I will also pass along any new information I learn, ect. Or if people have questions about other places around the world.

[Woodman09]

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I know some guy are at Teqendama Suites now-- so the girl policy is ok, although I did hear they were not accepting Venezuelan IDs-- but the guy who told me gets an exception.

Because he is there a lot.
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Here is an updat-- This other guy is staying there now and has been bringing Venezuelan girls in. So as long as the ID is good and you're discreet should be ok.

[Woodman09]

Went out last couple of night doing tours. Also met up with other ISG guys-There are many visiting now.

As Usual a kaleidoscope of pussy.

Here's a few highlights / Observations / miscellany in no particular order.

Hot girls in the street for sure more on Friday.

I was showing this guy around on Friday and he liked the clubs but liked the SGs more so we were outside walking around a lot and having beers in the little bars (much cheaper beer 3 mil).

He had fun with this little blonde who is always at the hotel on Calle 24 and CR 15. This girl has been banged by a few guys I have shown around. That's a good hotel I have been in there.

More than a few times.

Actually all 4 corners on the block have hot SGs when busy (North Stroll).

On Friday I was with 5 ISG guys hanging in Fiebre, girls lining up, There were about 20 girls+ maybe 6+ that were really hot like 7-8. Went through Troya and Paisas-- same kind of ratio.

Really hot girls eating in the Alaska Cafe late So fun to go there for late night munchies.

I saw this really gringo looking guy who looked really nervous walking around. Tried to say Hi but he just stared straight ahead and walked past. He looked like someone who would be targeted, hope he's ok.

Attached are photos of Colombia Playboys And other items I have available, I have a lot of inventory- Anyone interested can PM me-- I ship packages to the US and Europe all the time.

[Mtljay]

https://escortsbogota.com.co/ also has a good reputation. On my next trip, I want to try https://modelosalacarta.com/..

https://foroprepagoscolombia.com/ is a local escort review forum, just use google translate and you will be good.

The prices may be 10 x of what you will pay in SF but then again it's 1/3 of what you will pay in the US.

"Best" for me is some combination of dependability (punctuality with no chance of flake), available selection to my tastes, full GFE performance, and pricing.

In my experiences:

La Celestina. Has never let me down. My current favorite. Largest selection.

Niisha / SolitasParaTi. Also never let me down and best video previews. Used to be my go to without a doubt. Problem is that they selection has dropped significantly and less that fit my preferences.

Many, but not all, of those 2 agencies chicas will only book thru their agency. And they tell me they are happy to pay their cut without a doubt because of scheduling and security it provides (often a driver who will wait while the chica is on the clock). I'm fine with that.

Please do tell if you have any other additions or alternate points of view.

Getting TLN is better for a second time, some will want to do an hour first to 'screen' you before committing to a TLN.

There are other agencies, but in my experience you see many of those on PP and ME as independents.

ME and PP also have a lot of casa girls who represent themselves as independent but you're really chatting with a dude.

Best to ask for something by voice and get a reply by voice to know you're if you are really talking direct to the chica.

If it's a dude, that's fine with me. I just ask to have them send me the current catalog.

[Zeos1]

If the leftist guy wins then the US will sanction Colombia as they did Venezuela and you may have an increase in the p4p industry here. More and more girls would seek to please gringos for pesos.

Chavez / Maduro are / were not just leftist, they are communist and nationalized the oil industry, etc. I doubt that the US would do anything if it is merely a leftist government elected. Lots of places have that and are not sanctioned, etc.

[Turgid]

Watch out for post election violence. There have been threats against the leftist guy who was currently leading the polls.....

If the leftist guy wins then the US will sanction Colombia as they did Venezuela and you may have an increase in the p4p industry here. More and more girls would seek to please gringos for pesos.

[GringoTigre]

"Best" for me is some combination of dependability (punctuality with no chance of flake), available selection to my tastes, full GFE performance, and pricing.

In my experiences:

La Celestina. Has never let me down. My current favorite. Largest selection.

Niisha / SolitasParaTi. Also never let me down and best video previews. Used to be my go to without a doubt. Problem is that they selection has dropped significantly and less that fit my preferences.

Many, but not all, of those 2 agencies chicas will only book thru their agency. And they tell me they are happy to pay their cut without a doubt because of scheduling and security it provides (often a driver who will wait while the chica is on the clock). I'm fine with that.

Please do tell if you have any other additions or alternate points of view.

Getting TLN is better for a second time, some will want to do an hour first to 'screen' you before committing to a TLN.

There are other agencies, but in my experience you see many of those on PP and ME as independents.

ME and PP also have a lot of casa girls who represent themselves as independent but you're really chatting with a dude.

Best to ask for something by voice and get a reply by voice to know you're if you are really talking direct to the chica.

If it's a dude, that's fine with me. I just ask to have them send me the current catalog.

[GringoTigre]

An observation in talk with a few punters last week. SF looks to be super economical, and the actual rato or hora is. However there are surrounding costs which need to be taken into account. All are part of the experience and enjoyable unto themselves.

Taxi or Uber Chapinero to / from SF. Between 20.000 to 30.000 depending.

Beverages (water or cerveza) 8. 000 to 10,000.

Dances 20,000 to 30,000 each, To me this is like a taste of wine before investing in a bottle. It's a pleasurable benefit.

Ratos in the (relatively) better clubs are 50.000 to 80.000. Which I don't do.

La hora depends on la chica and your ability to negotiate. In my experience and I'm selective, it is between 120,000 and 180,000.

No-knock insurance / Propina for housekeeping 4,000.

Feel free to report on your rates and observations. It's very much a YMMV.

But compare that to what you see in PP, ME, or better agencies and SF isn't the bargain you think it is.

Before any trolls or flaming posts: in no way am I saying that the other aspects of SF aren't enjoyable in their own.

Apart from the taxi and no-knock insurance.

For the danger aspect. It's manageable if you take precautions. I only travel with cash and a copy of my ID document. Like 200.000 cash in a "sure steal this wallet" and my real funds zipped in a non-obvious pocket on my jacket.

Last time I waled around the streets and did the casa scan. NOTHING of interest compared to the clubs. I asked one 6 (at best) and it was 220.000 la hora / 80,000 rato. Yah, right. I am crazy but not stupid. Of course casachicas normally way less than that. But I think I'm done with those strolls, I keep my head on a swivel and tonight I was certain two people were tailing me 5 meters behind. I stepped into a casa to talk to one there was no way I was going with. They kept walking. I stepped away from chica after a minute or two. I saw them opposite side of streat. I kept walking, went around corner. They were tailing me again. Stepped into first tienda where there were also military police. Bought an aquita sipped it there chatted a little. Maybe after 5 minutes at most, I returned to Troya. Were the 2 dudes tailing me bad dudes, tal vez si tal vez no. Was I afraid? Maybe 10% on my danger meter. Will I stop returns to SF? Not at all. Will I stick to the main street and not stroll? Yes, half due to security and half due to not finding anything I was interested in.

[GringoTigre]

Refunds in any case are generally very difficult under any circumstances in Colombia. Returning a purchase is damn near impossible. Once a merchant has your money, airline, hotel, restaurant or clothing store, getting it back is very difficult if not unheard of. The mindset in Colombia is to keep the money and try to get it back. I have found this style of business is pretty much a Latin America thing.

This is true in most all of Latin America, but Locumbia puts a twist on it with bureaucratic process, paperwork, and non-functional websites. It's comical when it's a small amount, and madening when it's a large amount.

But to take it a step further. A few examples like this. One was an online purchase from Exito (Colombia knock off of target) delived by courier. Simple kitchen appliance needed for the apartment at cost of 120.000. Smoothish online purchase and no shipping charge, got it in 1 day. Novia claimed it didn't work like she wanted (I was fine with it). But those with a colombiana novia will know that there's no changing of that opinion. So whatever, she wanted it not me. So she does the return, the website worked but of course it asked for the purchase identification in 3 different order numbers, cedula, place of birth, blood type, and 10 other forms of personal information, and the credit card. Email with labels for return and courier picks up. So I check my card online. No refund. Wait a few days. Then a week, no refund. I tell her I'm just going to file the dispute with credit card co. Novia will have none of that, she takes it as a personal crusade to get the refund. Of course I have to help her log in and find the hidden customer service / complaints contact info, but whatever. So over the course of 2 weeks, she spends probably 10 hours trying to get the 120,000 refunded on my card. Without success. But better her to have that drama than some manufactured drama en casa. So I'm mildly entertained by it for 2 weeks. Then I file the dispute without telling her. Probably takes me 3 minutes. Case close but I don't tell novia. She gave up her crusade, and now has to bring it up every time we go to exito or carula (same company).

Got other stories like that with presencial stuff. Nail parlor, defective running shoes.

Got to laugh.

But if it was $500 with Dann Carleton. Damn, sorry for your loss.

[Golfinho]

I guess it's both candidates are put up by the same people to give the illusion of choice but who knows.

Could be. That's how US elections work. And Colombia is under Uncle Shmuel's direction for now.

[LatinaLover#1]

The Dann Carlton hotel chains across Colombia are total shit and should be avoided at all costs. Took me 5 months and multiple in person visits to receive a $500 refund I was due. Incompetent and terrible customer service.

Refunds in any case are generally very difficult under any circumstances in Colombia. Returning a purchase is damn near impossible. Once a merchant has your money, airline, hotel, restaurant or clothing store, getting it back is very difficultif if not unheard of. The mindset in Colombia is to keep the money and try to get it back. I have found this style of business is pretty much a Latin America thing.