Bogota Reports

[Arthur62]

Agreed. Santa Fe is it for everyone but I always like to compare it to Tijuana.

Never visited Tijuana, but remaining in Colombia I would compare it to Botero plaza in Medellin.

Often I prefer a GFE (MiamiBoy I'm with you), but it requires more work to find it, not just more money, and sometime I'm a bit lazy or unprepared.

[JjBee62]

2 things bothered me when reading this.

1. It would add value. Even if you don't share your contacts (which is in itself kind of selfish if you ask me). Hearing about you experiences would help younger mongers like myself understand if this is an avenue I would like to try. It would give me a blue print on how to get good GFE in Colombia. The details of the encounter can help me learn what a good deal is vs a scam. The details can help me figure out if the benefits of this path is worth the extra. To a guy like me both options sound awesome. Going up to a 7-8 on the street and sticking something in her for like 10 usd in under 30 minutes of meeting. Like I tip people that here for bringing me drinks at a restaurant. Option be take home a 9 or 10 by your personal standards and get a GFE so good it make you not want to share your prostitutes info. This option is like 65 usd or 300 k cop. I can't even get a decent covered BJ for that in the US. Either way sounds exciting and fun. I'm not sure if not posting report is a a lazy cop out or you really think they don't add value. I'm here to tell you sir I'm here wanting to know as many details as you will allow. Everything from how you select them to how you get them to meet up. Everything from your most successful strategies to you big mistakes. I could learn from all of it. So when I make my way there next month I will be able to tell more stories here about how I did things right vs telling a bunch of stories about how I wasted my times with the wrong chicas.

2. My man JjBee62 has already helped me out like 5 times this past week. 3 Directly and a few more from me running across his reports. If you asking for his reports you must not be looking very hard. It seems in Colombia there only like 3 or 4 people more active than him recently. He the OG in my opinion. Some of them weren't trip reports but there was defintely information he shared he most likely got mongering in Colombia. It's either that or he is living vicariously through the board reading this front to back like a book.

Last but not least MaddTraveler did a less than good job articulating his point countering you. I'm not taking sides in the GFE vs SF debate but I love a good debate. It turned from an argument to a loosely related rant on his part. So thanks for keeping your argument concise enough so I can enjoy your debate with the others.

Now that was excellent, especially your first point. It's much better to learn from someone else's mistakes (or successes) than to have make your own mistakes.

I'm a truck driver. Nothing special, but it pays me very well and it's something I enjoy. Many years ago another driver passed on some wisdom. Trucks don't roll over because they run off the road or into the median. They roll over when the driver tries to jerk the truck back on the road. Years later someone ran me off into the median (because the other option would have killed them and probably me). Immediately, I remembered to just steer down the middle and stop. No damage, no injuries.

Your second point, I'm glad if I helped you. That's why I'm still here. I learned both ways. Not only did I read everything, I also lived in Medellin for a year. However, there are guys here who make me look like a newbie. Some of the guys look like Fred Astaire (look it up youngster) dancing through Santa Fe. They're all the specialists, I'm more of a generalist.

I go through spurts (which is how I came in my younger days). I just came off of a period when I posted little and now I'm making up for it and annoying everyone in the process.

Good luck on your upcoming trip.

[Zeos1]

So if you didn't session but you're commenting on the low quality of service, I'm guessing you've sessioned in previous a trip (s)? If so, are you saying the quality has gone down? I'm coming for a month and I'm wondering if I should spend half that time in Medellin. From what I've seen on youtube, sf is not what it used to be. That could also be youtube being more vigilent in removing videos. But on the Bogota map, 9 out of 10 listings are places that went out of business years ago and most links don't go anywhere. The Medellin map seems a lot more reliable and some of the reports on that page make it sounds pretty great, although I know it's more expensive. Medellin doesn't have an official zona de tolerencia but el centro looks promising during the day and parque lleras at night, and that's just the street scene. Clubs and casas look promising too. SA looks good for both cities but I know if I rely too heavily on that I'm going to have a lot of frustrating experiences with flaky girls with inflated egos. I also hate fancy restaurants almost as much as girls love them. Last time I offered to pay a girl more to skip the restaurant and she blocked me LOL.

Medellin does have a zona de tolerencia, just for your information. I don't know the exact boundaries but the centro area behind the museum, carrera 53 is part of it.

[TalkYes]

You are tiring to bargain with your luck. You should look for an insurance for pussy services. You try to make conclusions looking on the map. LOL.

Obviously having an accurate and up to date map would be helpful. I want to have options and don't want to waste my time exploring dead ends while looking for those options. Look how much more active the Medellin page is than this one despite the city having a way smaller population. It's not just the weather. People only want to talk about sf here and half of that is negative. I'm not even saying that Medellin is a better city for this hobby because I know it's not, it's just more streamlined. People talk about the mezzanine like it's the only casa. There are definitely dozens of other places like that. Bogota has potential but not if we're going to act like leaving sf is a laughable concept. I don't even know what else to say to that.

[MaddTraveler]

The fact that my opinion is different from yours doesn't mean it is not based on reality. I speak from my own experience. I had sessioned in SF before, and never had a mind blowing experience. Mediocre at best, which is expected from a high mileage girl. Speaking of high mileage, last time I was there I actually saw a girl that maybe I would do, but she was always busy even to talk to me. We just got exchanged Hello,'s and off she went with another customer. She did 3 guys, back to back, while I was there drinking my beers. When she finally became available, I passed on her, I didn't want to be her 4th (at the very least) customer that night. These girls are sex machines, they do one guy after another, do your own math. Some of them fuck more times than most of the mongers here fuck in entire lifetime. No wonder the service is mechanical and all covered. Totally expected. You don't walk in a McDonald's asking for a NY steak, right? Sf is kind of a fast food, so to speak. Cheap, quick, efficient. I understand the appeal of it to a monger from the US. Someone in his 50's-70's, maybe divorced, retired, on a budget, with literally no sex life back home. Fucking a 18-20 yo for 20 bucks is impossible back home. But here it is cheap, legal, and nobody will ever find out, in case you care about privacy. I'm not trashing the place, I actually said that it might be a good place to hang out with a buddy, have a few beers and watch the show. But I would rather prefer a nice NY steak at a sit down restaurant rather than a burger and fries at McDonald's, and still stay within my budget. Im not some weekend warrior, I know the going rates at different venues and never throw crazy money at girls. What I am trying to say, is that one can venture outside of SF, and have a much more pleasant GFE experience for a reasonable price.

Damn son you sound mad af? Maybe we should exchange usernames LOL. You said you're not trying to trash Bogota yet you are. Also your fast food vs steak analogy isn't realistic, because you could be within your budget but you'll still pay more for the steak vs a cheeseburger. So there is literally zero point to mention this, yes I know my burger costs 1 dollar, maybe I don't want to spend 20 buck on steak so I can save 19 bucks. Just cause you could afford it doesn't mean we spent the same amt, yet your comment is trying to justify the 20 bucks and to make it sound as if we'll end at the same spot. No we won't cause I'll have more money left LOL, so pointless comment again.

Maybe you're young, I am too, and I can promise you many older gents have a whole lot more money than you and I combined, and yet they're the ones who roll on a budget. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. I've mongered in 15+ countries, and the guys with money that I personally know are the ones who bargain the most, save more, invest more wisely in other words, and not just in pussy.

Another thing to finally get to the point, Bogota isn't cheaper than Medellin son, I repeat, Bogota is Not cheaper. SF street girls are comparable to street girls in El centro Mde, SF clubs are also comparable to clubs in El Centro Mde. In fact clubs on the North end of Bogota are by far more superior and more expensive than those few ones in Mde, in fact no comparison in quality and in quantity. Bogota is a HUGE city, and we're only talking about a few street blocks, there are 10 x more casas, 10 x+ more clubs, meaning 10 x more photoprepagos, all categories. So this entire analysis of high mileage pussy blah blah is pure BS and if anything you sound super inexperienced LOL. These putas also rotate from cities to cities, met two chicas in Medellin that used to work in Fiebre, they recognized me. Met in a centro club and that same night saw them again in Llerra. The entire country's the same shit when it comes to putas hombre, they just rotate.

[JjBee62]

Everything is subjective. In my experience, you can get 10+ experience from a 30 year old, high volume pussy and 2 of 10 from a SA 20 sh beautiful girl. Everything depends on " the right time " her mood / your mood / her hormonal profile / her and your expectations / your skills to fuck her mind to get her involved / etc. At the same time, I don't want to say that 30 year old pussy is better than 20 year old One.

+1 on this one.

I've seen a girl who gave incredible 5 star GFE to 3 different guys and the 4th guy reported that she was terrible. I've had girls who blew my mind 2 or 3 times then gave bored, mechanical service.

Sex for hire isn't like cooking a steak, which isn't difficult. If you know how to pick a good piece of meat, you're almost there. Just recently my girlfriend flew in from Medellin and stayed with me for 7 weeks. On the day she arrived, I put in the effort to make it special and the sex was fantastic. Other nights I just phoned it in and the sex was just average.

[TalkYes]

I'm not trashing the place, I actually said that it might be a good place to hang out with a buddy, have a few beers and watch the show. But I would rather prefer a nice NY steak at a sit down restaurant rather than a burger and fries at McDonald's, and still stay within my budget. I'm not some weekend warrior, I know the going rates at different venues and never throw crazy money at girls. What I am trying to say, is that one can venture outside of SF, and have a much more pleasant GFE experience for a reasonable price.

I don't think those shots were completely aimed at you. I think your criticisms were objective and relevant. I don't agree however with the comparison to mcdonalds vs a steakhouse just because every girl is essentially a free agent with her own menu, and the area she is working in may be somewhat indicative of the quality, but you can't act like it's a rule. There are shit restaurants in nice neighborhoods just like you can find great food in slums. There's also a bunch of different factors to consider: Your appearance and hygiene, did you put her off by haggling too much? Do you speak any spanish and if so does your shitty accent offend her? (some people's American accent when they speak spanish is offensive even to me and my spanish is pretty shit. You might be better off just not trying to speak spanish if you're going to say shit like "gratzeeus") Are you being too aggressive or does she feel at ease? One girl denied me a BBJ at the door but then we went inside and I guess she liked me more without my clothes because she started to do what she said she wouldn't. I attribute it to good lawn maintenance. All I'm saying is there's more to it than big mac vs steak.

[Igor54]

So if you didn't session but you're commenting on the low quality of service, I'm guessing you've sessioned in previous a trip (s)? If so, are you saying the quality has gone down? I'm coming for a month and I'm wondering if I should spend half that time in Medellin. From what I've seen on youtube, sf is not what it used to be. That could also be youtube being more vigilent in removing videos. But on the Bogota map, 9 out of 10 listings are places that went out of business years ago and most links don't go anywhere. The Medellin map seems a lot more reliable and some of the reports on that page make it sounds pretty great, although I know it's more expensive. Medellin doesn't have an official zona de tolerencia but el centro looks promising during the day and parque lleras at night, and that's just the street scene. Clubs and casas look promising too. SA looks good for both cities but I know if I rely too heavily on that I'm going to have a lot of frustrating experiences with flaky girls with inflated egos. I also hate fancy restaurants almost as much as girls love them. Last time I offered to pay a girl more to skip the restaurant and she blocked me LOL.

You are tiring to bargain with your luck. You should look for an insurance for pussy services. You try to make conclusions looking on the map. LOL.

[Igor54]

The fact that my opinion is different from yours doesn't mean it is not based on reality. I speak from my own experience. I had sessioned in SF before, and never had a mind blowing experience. Mediocre at best, which is expected from a high mileage girl. Speaking of high mileage, last time I was there I actually saw a girl that maybe I would do, but she was always busy even to talk to me. We just got exchanged Hello,'s and off she went with another customer. She did 3 guys, back to back, while I was there drinking my beers. When she finally became available, I passed on her, I didn't want to be her 4th (at the very least) customer that night. These girls are sex machines, they do one guy after another, do your own math. Some of them fuck more times than most of the mongers here fuck in entire lifetime. No wonder the service is mechanical and all covered. Totally expected. You don't walk in a McDonald's asking for a NY steak, right? Sf is kind of a fast food, so to speak. Cheap, quick, efficient. I understand the appeal of it to a monger from the US. Someone in his 50's-70's, maybe divorced, retired, on a budget, with literally no sex life back home. Fucking a 18-20 yo for 20 bucks is impossible back home. But here it is cheap, legal, and nobody will ever find out, in case you care about privacy. I'm not trashing the place, I actually said that it might be a good place to hang out with a buddy, have a few beers and watch the show. But I would rather prefer a nice NY steak at a sit down restaurant rather than a burger and fries at McDonald's, and still stay within my budget. Im not some weekend warrior, I know the going rates at different venues and never throw crazy money at girls. What I am trying to say, is that one can venture outside of SF, and have a much more pleasant GFE experience for a reasonable price.

Everything is subjective. In my experience, you can get 10+ experience from a 30 year old, high volume pussy and 2 of 10 from a SA 20 sh beautiful girl. Everything depends on " the right time " her mood / your mood / her hormonal profile / her and your expectations / your skills to fuck her mind to get her involved / etc. At the same time, I don't want to say that 30 year old pussy is better than 20 year old One.

[JjBee62]

Thanks for the report. This reply isn't specific to your post (post was great) but to just SG's in general. I think you hit the nail on the head with regards to SG's and I'm thinking that for any of us that have done the SG scene in any place would know this but the scene is going to change daily. It's the same for every city I've been to and it seems as though Bogota is not any different as your experience mirrors mine both in my really short time there (literally a couple of hours on 2 different days during late afternoon so hardly the prime time) and in my experience in every other place I've been to in Central America and Europe.

The first time I was there and walked around I could literally find 2-3 girls on each block I would fuck. In fact there are 2 in particular that ticked all my specific boxes that I kick myself for not seeing and I'm really hoping I can hook up with them when I'm there. The very next time I was there and it was different, there were still some girls I could do but not as many as my first visit including the abscence of the 2 I really wanted to be there. I imagine that had I spent longer and gone back there on subsequent days I'the keep repeating that sort of pattern of there sometimes being a lot of girls I like the look of vs another day of not as many or maybe even none. It was the exact same in the 2 clubs I visited too. One was great one day and sucked the next while the other club was the opposite. Sucked the 1st time and was great the 2nd time. Again, I have a feeling that this would also repeat that same cycle.

For you guys that can get down there for longer than 3-4 days and can spend 1,2,3 weeks or even a month. I envy you. I don't know if I could do 1 whole month in one place if it was just for fucking girls because realistically once back in the states I would have that slight feeling of "I wonder if Medellin or cartagena, etc would be better" but I think you're in a great position to ride out those ups and downs in both SG's and BG's. For the Miamiboy post I'm left just confused but it also seems you're more of an SA guy anyways so the bar and street scene anywhere isn't what you're interested in. Sounds like you have the time to play that game but also shows the lack of knowing that this thing runs in cycles. For the poster below that's wondering about if Bogota is worth it for the whole month then if it were me I would say head to another city for a week or two if the budget allows. You'll be able to reasonably compare both places knowing that if you're in a club or checking out sg's one day may not have any correlation yo what you're going to find over the next 3-5 days there. Something also tells me that you recognize both the pros and cons of the SA scene as well so as to know if that's a rabbit hole you want to go down in whatever city you choose.

I guess in the end, everyone has their own version of what they like in a girl. Personally, I know I'm going to do just fine with the quality of girls next time I'm down there.

You're exactly right that it varies from day to day. Actually, it varies by the hour. Not just in Santa Fe, but just about everywhere. One pass through you'll see nothing, next pass you might see a bunch who make the cut.

My suggestion, if you take the stroll and see nothing, grab a bite, step into a club, or buy a bottle of water and go again. It might take 3 or 4 times, but you'll find some good girls.

[MiamiBoy1]

None? Not 1 girl? That boggles my mind. I can walk through a Midwestern Walmart at 11 pm and almost always see a girl who I would fuck for $20. That's from a pool of 10-15 girls in the temple of fat women in spandex (and I don't do fat).

My last visit to Santa Fe I was already fucked out from 10 days in Medellin and was extremely tired, and still, in less than an hour, without entering any clubs, saw at least 20 who I'd been thrilled to get, even if the price was 150 k. If not for the chance to catch up with a friend, I wouldn't have even gone.

There were some fat ones. There were some older ones. Of course. People don't stop needing to eat just because they age or put on weight. If you need to eat, need to feed a family, you work, doing what you can.

There were plenty of women wearing cheap, not especially fashionable attire. If you're selling pussy on the streets in Bogota, you probably can't afford original designs from Donna Karan, and the power suit won't attract many customers. Instead, you spend 5 k on something that shows off what you're selling. Sure it makes the girls look like prostitutes working in a red light district, but isn't that the point?

Tattoos were in abundance, because it's no longer 1983. I'm not a fan of tattoos, but appreciate the artistry of some. Things change. For the people upset about tattooed women are you still complaining that you can't get 8 track tapes anymore?

Now to the burning question. If you wouldn't do any of the women, wouldn't even get close enough to talk to them, how do you know that every single one of, of the 100's you had to have seen, were very high mileage and only provided very basic, all covered service?

This is important, because that's a fucking incredible talent. Think about it. You could sit down at a poker table and before the cards are shuffled know what everyone will have and how they'll bet. Then there's the sports betting. That's $1 million every weekend betting on the games when you already know exactly how every game will turn out.

There's probably a name for that syndrome, the unreasonable need to trash everything because you don't like 1 thing. I see it everywhere. It's rampant in online reviews. Someone orders a steak well done (which already shows poor judgement) and when it comes out medium, instead of politely explaining that the meat isn't sufficiently ruined, they write a review criticizing everything from the owner's haircut to the asphalt in the parking lot.

Personally, I find things like that useful. If someone can't find 1 good thing about a place, if they feel the need to make declarations about things which they can't possibly know, then I know their opinions are not based on reality.

I need to make a trip to Bogota this fall and was just going to stay long enough to do what I need to do. However, you've convinced me to take an extra day or 2 to hang out in Santa Fe.

The fact that my opinion is different from yours doesn't mean it is not based on reality. I speak from my own experience. I had sessioned in SF before, and never had a mind blowing experience. Mediocre at best, which is expected from a high mileage girl. Speaking of high mileage, last time I was there I actually saw a girl that maybe I would do, but she was always busy even to talk to me. We just got exchanged Hello,'s and off she went with another customer. She did 3 guys, back to back, while I was there drinking my beers. When she finally became available, I passed on her, I didn't want to be her 4th (at the very least) customer that night. These girls are sex machines, they do one guy after another, do your own math. Some of them fuck more times than most of the mongers here fuck in entire lifetime. No wonder the service is mechanical and all covered. Totally expected. You don't walk in a McDonald's asking for a NY steak, right? Sf is kind of a fast food, so to speak. Cheap, quick, efficient. I understand the appeal of it to a monger from the US. Someone in his 50's-70's, maybe divorced, retired, on a budget, with literally no sex life back home. Fucking a 18-20 yo for 20 bucks is impossible back home. But here it is cheap, legal, and nobody will ever find out, in case you care about privacy. I'm not trashing the place, I actually said that it might be a good place to hang out with a buddy, have a few beers and watch the show. But I would rather prefer a nice NY steak at a sit down restaurant rather than a burger and fries at McDonald's, and still stay within my budget. I’m not some weekend warrior, I know the going rates at different venues and never throw crazy money at girls. What I am trying to say, is that one can venture outside of SF, and have a much more pleasant GFE experience for a reasonable price.

[DaVinci40]

It was way better on Thursday.

I usually find something nice, but not yesterday.

It got a little better late. At about 11 pm actually. By that time I was spent tho.

The club scene was not bad.

Like you said, saw some hotties in Venus. Hung out there. Loud but fun, lol.

Thanks for the report. This reply isn't specific to your post (post was great) but to just SG's in general. I think you hit the nail on the head with regards to SG's and I'm thinking that for any of us that have done the SG scene in any place would know this but the scene is going to change daily. It's the same for every city I've been to and it seems as though Bogota is not any different as your experience mirrors mine both in my really short time there (literally a couple of hours on 2 different days during late afternoon so hardly the prime time) and in my experience in every other place I've been to in Central America and Europe.

The first time I was there and walked around I could literally find 2-3 girls on each block I would fuck. In fact there are 2 in particular that ticked all my specific boxes that I kick myself for not seeing and I'm really hoping I can hook up with them when I'm there. The very next time I was there and it was different, there were still some girls I could do but not as many as my first visit including the abscence of the 2 I really wanted to be there. I imagine that had I spent longer and gone back there on subsequent days I'the keep repeating that sort of pattern of there sometimes being a lot of girls I like the look of vs another day of not as many or maybe even none. It was the exact same in the 2 clubs I visited too. One was great one day and sucked the next while the other club was the opposite. Sucked the 1st time and was great the 2nd time. Again, I have a feeling that this would also repeat that same cycle.

For you guys that can get down there for longer than 3-4 days and can spend 1,2,3 weeks or even a month. I envy you. I don't know if I could do 1 whole month in one place if it was just for fucking girls because realistically once back in the states I would have that slight feeling of "I wonder if Medellin or cartagena, etc would be better" but I think you're in a great position to ride out those ups and downs in both SG's and BG's. For the Miamiboy post I'm left just confused but it also seems you're more of an SA guy anyways so the bar and street scene anywhere isn't what you're interested in. Sounds like you have the time to play that game but also shows the lack of knowing that this thing runs in cycles. For the poster below that's wondering about if Bogota is worth it for the whole month then if it were me I would say head to another city for a week or two if the budget allows. You'll be able to reasonably compare both places knowing that if you're in a club or checking out sg's one day may not have any correlation yo what you're going to find over the next 3-5 days there. Something also tells me that you recognize both the pros and cons of the SA scene as well so as to know if that's a rabbit hole you want to go down in whatever city you choose.

I guess in the end, everyone has their own version of what they like in a girl. Personally, I know I'm going to do just fine with the quality of girls next time I'm down there.

[Balboa]

We had a great time tonight-- Got out to SF about 7;30 went through the South Stroll walked the North area a bit-- Pretty nice-.

Hit Santa Fe last night as well, got there at about 6 pm.

To be honest, for me the street scene was disappointing.

It was way better on Thursday.

I usually find something nice, but not yesterday.

It got a little better late. At about 11 pm actually. By that time I was spent tho.

The club scene was not bad.

Like you said, saw some hotties in Venus. Hung out there. Loud but fun, lol.

After a few days in Bogota, I packed my bags and headed back to Medellin.

So much better in my opinion.

Especially the street scene.

I'm not an online chica seeker, so no clue about that.
The club scene is better in Bogota (Santa Fe) than Medellin, el Centro clubs, Imo.
Im not into la Isla, Lidos type places, so no clue there either.

Good to be back with my combo of Paisas and Chamas here in Medellin!

Today was yummy, LOL.

[TalkYes]

I spent about 3 weeks in Bogota in August. Been to SF 3 or 4 times, and never sessioned. None of the girls were appealing enough for me to take them upstairs. Yeah, they are cheap, but I didn't care. Some of them I wouldn't do for free. Others I wouldn't even touch with a 10 ft pole. Low quality, very high mileage, mechanical basic all covered service, nah, thanks

So if you didn't session but you're commenting on the low quality of service, I'm guessing you've sessioned in previous a trip (s)? If so, are you saying the quality has gone down? I'm coming for a month and I'm wondering if I should spend half that time in Medellin. From what I've seen on youtube, sf is not what it used to be. That could also be youtube being more vigilent in removing videos. But on the Bogota map, 9 out of 10 listings are places that went out of business years ago and most links don't go anywhere. The Medellin map seems a lot more reliable and some of the reports on that page make it sounds pretty great, although I know it's more expensive. Medellin doesn't have an official zona de tolerencia but el centro looks promising during the day and parque lleras at night, and that's just the street scene. Clubs and casas look promising too. SA looks good for both cities but I know if I rely too heavily on that I'm going to have a lot of frustrating experiences with flaky girls with inflated egos. I also hate fancy restaurants almost as much as girls love them. Last time I offered to pay a girl more to skip the restaurant and she blocked me LOL.

[JjBee62]

I spent about 3 weeks in Bogota in August. Been to SF 3 or 4 times, and never sessioned. None of the girls were appealing enough for me to take them upstairs. Yeah, they are cheap, but I didn't care. Some of them I wouldn't do for free. Others I wouldn't even touch with a 10 ft pole. Low quality, very high mileage, mechanical basic all covered service, nah, thanks. I was with an ISG member, had a couple of beers, and just watched girls dancing on stage. SF clubs are good if you are bored and want to just kill time with a friend. Good place to fuck if you like them high mileage and all covered service. Even if BBBJ and BBFS were readily available, and sometimes they are for an up charge, you would be better off going covered to avoid STDs.

None? Not 1 girl? That boggles my mind. I can walk through a Midwestern Walmart at 11 pm and almost always see a girl who I would fuck for $20. That's from a pool of 10-15 girls in the temple of fat women in spandex (and I don't do fat).

My last visit to Santa Fe I was already fucked out from 10 days in Medellin and was extremely tired, and still, in less than an hour, without entering any clubs, saw at least 20 who I'd been thrilled to get, even if the price was 150 k. If not for the chance to catch up with a friend, I wouldn't have even gone.

There were some fat ones. There were some older ones. Of course. People don't stop needing to eat just because they age or put on weight. If you need to eat, need to feed a family, you work, doing what you can.

There were plenty of women wearing cheap, not especially fashionable attire. If you're selling pussy on the streets in Bogota, you probably can't afford original designs from Donna Karan, and the power suit won't attract many customers. Instead, you spend 5 k on something that shows off what you're selling. Sure it makes the girls look like prostitutes working in a red light district, but isn't that the point?

Tattoos were in abundance, because it's no longer 1983. I'm not a fan of tattoos, but appreciate the artistry of some. Things change. For the people upset about tattooed women are you still complaining that you can't get 8 track tapes anymore?

Now to the burning question. If you wouldn't do any of the women, wouldn't even get close enough to talk to them, how do you know that every single one of, of the 100's you had to have seen, were very high mileage and only provided very basic, all covered service?

This is important, because that's a fucking incredible talent. Think about it. You could sit down at a poker table and before the cards are shuffled know what everyone will have and how they'll bet. Then there's the sports betting. That's $1 million every weekend betting on the games when you already know exactly how every game will turn out.

There's probably a name for that syndrome, the unreasonable need to trash everything because you don't like 1 thing. I see it everywhere. It's rampant in online reviews. Someone orders a steak well done (which already shows poor judgement) and when it comes out medium, instead of politely explaining that the meat isn't sufficiently ruined, they write a review criticizing everything from the owner's haircut to the asphalt in the parking lot.

Personally, I find things like that useful. If someone can't find 1 good thing about a place, if they feel the need to make declarations about things which they can't possibly know, then I know their opinions are not based on reality.

I need to make a trip to Bogota this fall and was just going to stay long enough to do what I need to do. However, you've convinced me to take an extra day or 2 to hang out in Santa Fe.