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  1. #10213
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    This is not true. There are salons, stores, and restaurants in Santa Fe. There are also chicks there with their boyfriends. To say that every woman there is a hooker is ridiculous. Even today me and another board member were in the SW area of Chapinero. Chicks were trying to get us to choose a chick. I told them how I liked a certain chick that was actually with a hooker (they looked like sisters) and they told me that the one I liked was not a hooker.
    I'm talking about the zona de tolerencia only, not the rest of Santa Fe, and certainly not about Chapinero.

  2. #10212
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    The part of Santa Fe that people talk about here is an area that is designated as a zone of tolerance for prostitution. It is not a residential area. And any woman there is there for sex for money. So by definition professionals.

    But there is a lot more to Bogota than that. Not far away there are some very nice areas, apartments, hotels. As for finding non-pros. Good luck.
    There is more to Santa Fe than meets the eyes. There are residencia buildings right in the heart of Santa Fe, with restaurants, regular businesses and working families. Even a playground where children play.

  3. #10211
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Maybe you did not hear about the Secret Service deal in Cartagena some years back. You better be straight on the money issue before you do any fucking or it could really turn out to be your killer, your horror.
    Every day I have clearer ideas about Colombia, but I still have some doubts. Do you have to talk about money and then pay even if you fuck a regular girl and not a working girl?

  4. #10210
    Quote Originally Posted by Blade2001  [View Original Post]
    The cops come every night now around 1 AM and they clear the streets and force people either into a club, or to the side streets. I still haven't figured out the purpose of this, just seems stupid.
    Just trust the experts! They're keeping us safe / saving lives!

    Jajaja just kidding! It's all just "safety theater". I've seen more non-sensical, illogical safety rituals than I can count in the past year.

    It's just a natural human response to a threat we can't possibly control.

    We create rituals. If less people get sick next week, then "hey, that ritual clearly worked!

    If more people get sick next week, then it's "hey, too many selfish individuals didn't participate in our ritual last week, that's why it didn't work!

  5. #10209
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeos1  [View Original Post]
    The part of Santa Fe that people talk about here is an area that is designated as a zone of tolerance for prostitution. It is not a residential area. And any woman there is there for sex for money.
    This is not true. There are salons, stores, and restaurants in Santa Fe. There are also chicks there with their boyfriends. To say that every woman there is a hooker is ridiculous. Even today me and another board member were in the SW area of Chapinero. Chicks were trying to get us to choose a chick. I told them how I liked a certain chick that was actually with a hooker (they looked like sisters) and they told me that the one I liked was not a hooker.

  6. #10208
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesLover  [View Original Post]
    You all always talk about bargaining and about money before fucking. This would be my killer, my horror.
    No need for you to come to Colombia if you think you are going to find a chick that fucks for money without discussing the money first. And if she does not, then that is the quickest way to get yourself into a bunch of trouble. Maybe you did not hear about the Secret Service deal in Cartagena some years back. You better be straight on the money issue before you do any fucking or it could really turn out to be your killer, your horror.

  7. #10207
    Quote Originally Posted by CocrBrotheler  [View Original Post]
    But you'll get looks from the staff that assigns the rooms that say, oh not you again. There is also jealousy among the wait staff
    This is really ethnocentric of you. I have never experienced this anywhere in the world; people turning their nose up at you because you are a returning customer? Have you ever worked anywhere and been jealous of your customers? Come on man. Seems like it is just your imagination trying to make you think you are better than they are.

  8. #10206
    Friends, first of all, thank you for your help.

    I must say that Colombia is disappointing me a lot. I am used to Africa where the girls are just plain gorgeous. I am talking about their character because the black of their skin can like it or it cannot like it.

    They are kind, sweet and helpful and affectionate. They do everything without asking for anything in return, even if they expect help, but without asking. Then you are the one who gives something to these poor girls.

    You tell me there are only prostitutes in Santa Fe? I would say not only in Santa Fe but in every corner of Colombia. You can't talk to a girl without her asking for money.

    I talked to about 200 girls on social networks and they all wanted money. A lot of money. As soon as they ask for money, I cut off the communication. Now I don't talk to anyone anymore. I run the risk of being left alone in Colombia.

    It is horrible, really horrible. Thinking if a girl touches her tits she wants money, and if you touch her pussy she wants more money.

    Maybe it will be that I'm old and I can't stand these things anymore.

    Who is the semi-pro? Quickly said: a girl who is doing university and sometimes to pay for her studies or to have fun, has to sell her body. I met students of Medecina and Economics. Smart and affectionate girls. When you are with these girls you love them. I like to fall in love. They are sweet and loving. Nothing to do with the pros who only do that job, they treat you badly and where inside their pussy there is maybe shit.

    Two guys also asked me for money on Badoo, when I asked for information about a city. Only a very nice girl refused to meet me and she wanted to be my friend but she didn't ask me for money.

    Is Colombia this? It is truly ugly in relationships between people, it is beautiful only in places.

    By now I have bought a ticket for Colombia but I am already sorry because I do not know where to go.

  9. #10205

    Clubs early closing

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmnHammer69  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    Looking for the nicest guest friendly places to stay while in Bogot and Medellin. I've been.

    To both a few times definitely want to hit up Santa Fe for troya, paisas and my favourite fiebre. What is the current situation are clubs closing early still and doors closed sneaking you in?
    The clubs like Fiebres are open from 6:00 PM to 2:30 AM. Every night for the last couple few nights the police have come at 1 AM and cleared out and blocked off the streets where the clubs are. Fiebres has outdoor cameras and screens where you can observe the streets. The streets outside the clubs are completely empty after the cops have cleared them out. So you get trapped inside the club. For the past week, the clubs would watch for when the coast was clear and let a few people leave at a time. However, no one was allowed to leave Fiebres and we were all stuck there until 4 AM. It sucked. So I would suggest visiting the clubs and leaving when the police arrive. Or go ahead and stay if you don't mind being there until 4 AM.

    If anyone has any idea why the police are doing this please let us know. I've tried asking my self but haven't got any good answers, or maybe I just didn't understand. If I had to guess, I would think it has something to do with a covid lockdown.

  10. #10204

    Lavanderia Por Kilos

    Is Lavanderia Por Kilos (Calle 22 # 16-63) a good place to do laundry?

  11. #10203

    None there Business!

    "Going to same clubs every night and pulling lots of girls each night just gives a creepy rich American vibe, although the girls will always be willing to accept your dinero. I've pulled 3 girls from Fiebres on the same night before, one after the other, since the girls there are just so hot and it's just so cheap (for a gringo). But you'll get looks from the staff that assigns the rooms that say, oh not you again. There is also jealousy among the wait staff since they probably can't afford one girl a month, let alone several per night, although some of them probably get it for free. ".

    Man I understand your feeling on this. I brought a chica back to my hotel in La 70 Medellin one night and male staff mocked my "Hola" quite loudly really pissed me off. Yeah it is jealousy. I like to session once with a chica and try and get her contact info. to come back to my hotel or apartmento where there aren't so many eyes on me and in a closed in space. I'm going to Tijuana Hong Kong over LDW and they don't give a shit how many chicas you do.

  12. #10202
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesLover  [View Original Post]
    In September I will be in Colombia.

    I have thought many times whether to stay in Bogota for a few days or in another city. I had thought of renting an apartment in Santa Fe, but reading your posts I'm afraid I will have a big and resounding disappointment. I DON'T like PROs. I gladly accept the semi-pros, but only the ones that give girlfriendly experiences, but not for 15 minutes or 30 minutes. At least I would like to spend at least 2 hours with her and if I like her I will call her again the next days.

    It seems to me that everyone is pro in Santa Fe. You all always talk about bargaining and about money before fucking. This would be my killer, my horror.

    My question is:

    But is it easy or hard to find sweet semi pro girls who give girlfriendly experiences in Santa Fe? This is important for me.

    If you tell me that Santa Fe is a den of pros, I won't even set foot there and go to another city.

    Can you explain to me better what I am getting into in Santa Fe. I speak fluent Spanish and a few years ago I went to Medellin. Beautiful city of eternal spring, but the girls I met were tired. Uffffff.

    Anyone who is an expert on Colombia, can you give me some advice where to go without spending high bucks?

    Thanks.
    The part of Santa Fe that people talk about here is an area that is designated as a zone of tolerance for prostitution. It is not a residential area. And any woman there is there for sex for money. So by definition professionals.

    But there is a lot more to Bogota than that. Not far away there are some very nice areas, apartments, hotels. As for finding non-pros. Good luck.

  13. #10201
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesLover  [View Original Post]
    But is it easy or hard to find sweet semi pro girls who give girlfriendly experiences in Santa Fe? This is important for me.

    If you tell me that Santa Fe is a den of pros, I won't even set foot there and go to another city..
    Possible? Yes but finding the gem in the rough in a place like SF requires times and effort which is difficult for guys who come into town for a few days to a week.

    My taste has always been for the sweet semi pro chicas with GFE and when I find them I hang onto them. I have a few here in Medellin where I live and they blow away any 98% of the girls.

    The Tall Man.

  14. #10200
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesLover  [View Original Post]
    In September I will be in Colombia.

    I have thought many times whether to stay in Bogota for a few days or in another city. I had thought of renting an apartment in Santa Fe, but reading your posts I'm afraid I will have a big and resounding disappointment. I DON'T like PROs. I gladly accept the semi-pros, but only the ones that give girlfriendly experiences, but not for 15 minutes or 30 minutes. At least I would like to spend at least 2 hours with her and if I like her I will call her again the next days.

    It seems to me that everyone is pro in Santa Fe. You all always talk about bargaining and about money before fucking. This would be my killer, my horror.

    My question is:

    But is it easy or hard to find sweet semi pro girls who give girlfriendly experiences in Santa Fe? This is important for me.

    If you tell me that Santa Fe is a den of pros, I won't even set foot there and go to another city.

    Can you explain to me better what I am getting into in Santa Fe. I speak fluent Spanish and a few years ago I went to Medellin. Beautiful city of eternal spring, but the girls I met were tired. Uffffff.

    Anyone who is an expert on Colombia, can you give me some advice where to go without spending high bucks?

    Thanks.
    Then stay in Chapinero. Semi-pro?

    Not sure exactly how "girlfriend" like you're looking for. But maybe try the sites like Skokka.com and Mileroticos.com. They're still mostly pros but maybe cleaner than streetwalkers.

  15. #10199
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesLover  [View Original Post]
    In September I will be in Colombia.

    I have thought many times whether to stay in Bogota for a few days or in another city. I had thought of renting an apartment in Santa Fe, but reading your posts I'm afraid I will have a big and resounding disappointment. I DON'T like PROs. I gladly accept the semi-pros, but only the ones that give girlfriendly experiences, but not for 15 minutes or 30 minutes. At least I would like to spend at least 2 hours with her and if I like her I will call her again the next days.

    It seems to me that everyone is pro in Santa Fe. You all always talk about bargaining and about money before fucking. This would be my killer, my horror.

    My question is:

    But is it easy or hard to find sweet semi pro girls who give girlfriendly experiences in Santa Fe? This is important for me.

    If you tell me that Santa Fe is a den of pros, I won't even set foot there and go to another city..
    Santa Fe in Bogota and El Centro in Medellin are going to be similar, other than the weather. Others have said they have found what you're looking for in those places. They've also said it takes time and there are going to be disappointments.

    The girls working there are pros. I'm always a bit confused about what someone means when they talk about semi-pros. It's like being semi-pregnant. Either she accepts money for sex, or she doesn't.

    I have heard the explanation that semi-pros are just part-time pros, or they're pros who work another job. If that's the definition you use, you can go anywhere in Bogota or Medellin and try your luck. You should be able to find some in the stores that sell cheap clothes, cheap perfume or even cheap meals. Just chat them up, tell them you're looking for a companion and see who bites.

    In Medellin I use Facebook to find what you're looking for. I don't consider them to be semi-pros, but the typical experience for me is what you described. Prices run from 150 k-250 k or more, but most I've found will hang around for an hour or two.

    You will want to discuss a price beforehand. If not you're likely to have problems.

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