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Originally Posted by Gropai
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Thank you very much for your detailed information. Well, I guess you get what you pay for.
No, not really when it comes to PFP, and often times its just the opposite.
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Originally Posted by Kooper
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One reason I definitely was using the escorts like crazy to come to my place when I went!! Hopefully you got your hands on some ibuprofen as that can take the edge off a bit. And one of the most helpful is no walking basically and limited moving, but sounds like you were venturing out which didn't help (I did the same).
Hope you made out alright but possible you finally felt a bit better right as you're leaving or once you land at your next destination. Bummer.
Thanks! Unfortunately, I only recovered when I landed back home. It really was a bummer.
Originally Posted by Eszpresszo
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Sorry to hear about your problem with altitude sickness. I might be going to Bogota as early as Labor Day, and I am naturally concerned how altitude sickness can mess up my trip. However, I am thinking some of us might not have an issue with it. I spent a few nights in Mexico City with no problems. I just found out its up at 7300 feet, something I had not known before. I have also been to Taos, NM (7000 feet) numerous times without an issue other than a shortness of breath when walking up some steep stairs. I wonder what that extra 1500 feet in Bogota will do to me.
One source I found online states that "in Bogota only a small number of people suffer from altitude sickness after their ascent into the city the likelihood is increased with a rapid ascent to a high altitude. Many people don't suffer, especially when arriving by plane as they land from a higher altitude. " Hmmm, arriving by plane. Apparently diet can be an issue, too - "Eating leafy greens can help to prevent altitude sickness due to their high levels of salicylic acid. These acids act as an anti-inflammatory and can help thin the blood, allowing the oxygenated blood to travel to all corners of the body. Taking on carbohydrates can prevent altitude sickness as their digestion helps to generate glycolysis (carbohydrate storage), which releases energy at a faster rate. " So eat your salad! Though as I recall from my visit to Medellin, avoiding carbs when eating out is the real problem in Colombia. A veteran traveler and tour guide had this to say "A better cure is a sweet herbal infusions or aromatica as it is called locally. Some swear by coca tea, but actually any warm sugary fluid will pick you up as it is the glucose which alleviates the symptoms. I found Coca Cola, long recognized as the best hangover cure, is almost miraculous for altitude with its rich mix of caffeine and sugar. " Note to self, indulge in Coca Cola. The whole article is here:
https://thecitypaperbogota.com/bogot...-problem/12962
Now would someone try and clarify the climate in Bogota? What I read are a lot of contradictions. I keep seeing Bogota referred to as "cold" or chilly" (including the article above), with highs in the mid-60's and lows in the upper 40's year around. Though I come from a warm climate with a hot summer, I don't find that to be "cold". In fact, by Labor Day, 50 degrees Fahrenheit will sound great. I also understand that Bogota can be damp or foggy, and we know how humidity enhances the cold. Yet other travel related sources refer to it as being dry due to its altitude, admonishing the visitor to hydrate by drinking more water. I visualize wearing a light jacket or a blazer, long sleeve shirt with jeans and regular leather shoes. But, when I look around Bogota using Google Street View, I see a lot of guys in their shirtsleeves. I curious what those who have visited have to say about that.
Eszpresszo, Other than the altitude, I loved everything about Bogota. It's my kind of city -- good restaurants, historic downtown, sightseeing options, and beautiful, beautiful women. I thought the climate was wonderful during my visit -- in the mid to high 60-s, with some sunlight, but not lots of it, it was a huge welcome after scorchingly-hot Cartagena.
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Originally Posted by Pokeris
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You can find them on amazon, ebay or just google it: underwear with secret pocket.
Or alternately, you can hide some money under the insoles of your shoes. I did that last time in Medellin, when I realized there was no safe in my room. If you use aftermarket cushioning insoles, (as I do when I travel abroad and know I will be walking a lot) it won't require any special garments in awkward places. You can also access the money more discretely under the table than you can reaching down into your pants.
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Originally Posted by Blade2000
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...................At that point she slaps me in the face as hard as her 80 pound body could. Didn't bother me and I kept putting my clothes on. Then she realized the games over so starts reaching into my pockets to grab my wallet or phone but fails. At that point I grab her by the arm and throw her out the door. I start saying "robaro, robaro" and made a bit of a scene on the street. I was still barefoot and shirtless. At this point the girl ran away and several girls and the mamasan that sold the room came to ask what was wrong.
Nothing ending up being stolen and no real harm was done. .......
In my 45 years of mongering in brothels, casas, with street girls and what not, only once did a prostitute try to rob me and that was many years ago in a casa in Medellin. We had done the deed and I was showering. Mid shower, on a strange whim, I got out of the shower dripping wet to look at my clothes and there she was riffling through my trousers; she screamed when she saw me. She did not say anything but looked very concerned when I approached the papasan. I paid him, said nothing and left. Its the only time I did that and have never been robbed (knock wood).
On another note, in Medellin, I was sitting on a park bench eating snacks from a receptacle I carry with me, a druggie sits next to me and asks for some of my snacks, I offer her but she pulls out a plastic bag where I expected her to cup her hands, I then refuse, she socks me on the face and takes off. She actually packed quite a punch.
Regarding your girl it's a pity that she did not get at least a 10 K for the BBBJ, these girls lead a hard life.
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You can find them on amazon, ebay or just google it: underwear with secret pocket.
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Originally Posted by Blade2000
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The girls cost 600 K COP for half hour or 800 K COP for one hour. You will also be expected to buy her a drink a chat a while before the session. Drinks are generally expensive, but there are some cheap ones like a vodka mixer. So you are basically paying US prices but with a much hotter girl than you could get in the US. I went with the 30 minute session and the sex was great.
You could get with 10 girls in Santa Fe for the price of one at Flirt, but your pretty much guaranteed a model looking girl at Flirt.
Thank you very much for your detailed information. Well, I guess you get what you pay for.
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Originally Posted by HoLover1
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Where can you buy this underwear with the secret pocket?
They are called iHeartRaves and you can find them on amazon, boxer brief underwear.
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Secret dirty underwear pocket
Originally Posted by Blade2000
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. It would just have been a wasted day since there's no ATMs open at night time as far as I'm aware (I do keep a couple 50 K notes in a secret underwear pocket, but that's not for mongering, it's for taxi fare in case I get robbed). I far larger danger would have been if I accidentally hurt her after she got violent with me. Not much chance of that as I have pretty good control. But still I don't want to deal with this type of issue again. Never had an issue with theft or anything else inside the clubs..
Where can you buy this underwear with the secret pocket?
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Originally Posted by Gropai
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I want to try these two places and I hear they are pretty expensive. How much do they charge for a 1 hour session exactly? And also, is it true that to make a reservation at Flirt I need to prepay some money?
I don't know about Loutron, but I've been to Flirt hotel before. You don't need to prepay anything at reservation time, but you do need to make a reservation. But if you do go, prepare to pull. It's not like a casa where if you don't see anything you like, you can just leave. You could leave, but it would be awkward. They line up about 10 girls for you and they introduce themselves casa style and you pick. When I went, the girls were in the 8-9 hotness range. Similar to Lidos.
The girls cost 600 K COP for half hour or 800 K COP for one hour. You will also be expected to buy her a drink a chat a while before the session. Drinks are generally expensive, but there are some cheap ones like a vodka mixer. So you are basically paying US prices but with a much hotter girl than you could get in the US. I went with the 30 minute session and the sex was great.
You could get with 10 girls in Santa Fe for the price of one at Flirt, but your pretty much guaranteed a model looking girl at Flirt.
They take both cash or credit card, but charge a 10% fee on the credit card. I would carry both just in case. You pay afterwards.
When I called to make a reservation. I read a message in Spanish that I got from google translate. The guy could tell I didn't know Spanish, so hadn't me over to a guy who did. Not sure the English speaker will be available when you call.
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Loutron and Flirt Hotel.
I want to try these two places and I hear they are pretty expensive. How much do they charge for a 1 hour session exactly? And also, is it true that to make a reservation at Flirt I need to prepay some money?
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Originally Posted by WorldTravel69
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Three of us went to Venezuela. Our cards got used a lot. Mine came to US $5000. I used mine at 4-5 star hotels and two gift shops. They used mine at casinos, bars, car parts, grocery stores and Hamburger places.
Always use cash if you can.
And how did you end up spending so much? Did somebody clone your card and spend that much money?
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Originally Posted by Routard
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Uber is just another option beside the yellow cabs. Pro for Uber is that you can pay with Credit card through the app. Another pro for Uber is when you need to go in the suburb of Bogota like Chia for example. Regular cab is not allowed and has to make a paperwork before leaving Bogota while Uber is free. Another pro for Uber is that if you lost something durying the ride, you can contact again the driver through the app. If you arrive at airport, Uber is not a good idea as it's hard for him to meet you discretely as taxis who have waited for hours might beat him up. Unlike what most say on the board, Uber is NOT cheaper than taxi, it even becomes much more expensive durying peak hours. It's just that Uber cannot scam on pricing like taxis sometimes do with tourists. The later will not be possible anymore very soon as they are implementing new taxi meters where users agree on price before starting the ride.
I find Uber is usually a better option, but it depends.
There is also the Tappsi app for ordering a yellow cab through the app, which allows you to recover lost items and pay by card under some circumstances.
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Originally Posted by Global00
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Most of my most successful non-pros came from online dating sites like latinamericancupid, tinder and Badoo. I would say the most successful out of those has been latinamericancupid. I try to establish a relationship before I even get there so they are comfortable with the idea of me and it helps me set expectations. If you are going to do on the ground work, I would say malls and shopping centers for day time and bars and night clubs for the night time. In night clubs, people tend to cohabitate in their own like cliques though. There is herely alot of activity or movement of women in those places, I would say it gives you a higher chance at success. Speaking Spanish will be crucial though. In my experience Latin women are stimulated thorough their ears. They love to converse. If you can do that in Spanish, you will have a higher chance of success. Colombians are generally kind people and the women are approachable. Even if they are not interested, they are usually kind and respectful to let you know they are not interested. Just keep trying and see what happens.
This is Gringo Tuesdays. It's apparently very easy to get laid at these places.
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Originally Posted by JjBee62
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Language lessons always go wrong. For example: Trying to find my room is different from trying to search my room. In either case, asking mom is not going to help. However, mom was truly an expert at scouring.
You're probably better off just dropping it, since your original post said you scoured this forum. That excludes other search engines and the deep (or DEEP) web. If the information you are looking for is easily located on this forum, which it is, you didn't search or scour, although you may have asked your mom.
My "backhanded tone" (another mistake as it was flippant) included all the information you need to search (or scour) this forum for the knowledge you seek. Once again:
Look in the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread. Find the link for Routard's magnum opus on Bogota. You won't have to search or scour, as it's the second post you'll find. Then go to the "Bogota Lists" thread. You will need to search there, or get mom to do it. You won't need to search far. On page 2 World Travel 69 offers a fellow scourer a hint on where to find links to his maps. There are 3 maps, so you're looking for 3 links. I'll even make it easier. Search that thread for "Kansas".
Routard and Woodman09 are 2 of the best sources of information on Bogota. My contributions are few there. I can't give you better recommendations than those two. However, once you find the Bogota maps here's some general information that may help.
Choose your place to stay with a few things in mind. Traffic in Bogota is bad. I choose places convenient to the Transmilenio to avoid traffic and minimize taxi use. I also choose a place within walking distance of my areas of interest. For me, that's between 1 and 2 miles (I walked 25 miles in Bogota one day). My areas of interest usually involve food, so I've always chosen north hotels on quiet streets.
Here's my generic advice. Figure out what you're looking for, streetwalkers, massage parlors, casas or clubs. Figure out your budget. If you don't mind spending $100 or more for each session, hit the north clubs. If you would rather spend a lot less, hit the Santa Fe clubs or streetwalkers. If your budget is somewhere in between, choose Chapinero.
Now go forth and scour!
Dear Professor,
It's true, you were not backhanded. You are just extremely arrogant. It gets more to your core than being flippant toward a single word that had no impact on your life.
The info I am looking for is not easily located on this forum. Your directions are not really helpful, just general and obvious.
There ratio of messages about non SF locations: SF locations is extremely imbalanced, at best. Maybe that has to do with price. Fine. But it's a fact.
Are there comments about other places? Yes. Are they very helpful, like the detailed SF reports of late? No.
And if you search too far back in the forum, the info is dated. Assuming your expertise is not limited to linguistics, this should be readily apparent to you.
You're right on one note: Woodman and Routard are cordial and extremely helpful. And the SF reports are excellent. Apart from that, I see one or two recent reports on the rest of the city, and some much older ones that may or may not be relevant.
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Originally Posted by StripperMan
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Hey was this shy librarian girl you described named Naomi? Did she have a white girl or euro girl type of face?
I fucked her twice on my last trip about 6 months ago. The first time was great. The second was a complete waste of time. I paid 60 k each time at Antony's bar where she was working (near Fiebre).
Yes I think it was. She looks white and stands out from all the girls at Atones. She is really the only hot one in there, very small tits. Sex wasn't that great so I didn't repeat. But now I'm thinking I should have done another session with her in doggy while having her talking dirty in English.
Also wan't mention a bad experience I had on my last day. Pulled a street girl hanging out near one of the hotels across from La Piscina. She was small and cute from far away, but when I got closer, she was wearing some very ragged, worn out clothes. She quoted 30 K COP, but it turns out that was just for her and I needed an extra 20 K for the room. Ok no problem. In the room she told me to go wash up, but I was peaking my head out the door every couple seconds. I could see she was close to where my pants were and going for my wallet.
On the bed, she started a BBBJ, but I could see that with her free hand she was reaching to where my pants were. I made the suggestion that I wanted to get a condom from my pants as an excuse to get them away from her, which I did. I was of course totally limp through the BBBJ, since I knew she was trying to rob me. About 10 minutes into it she yells "policizia, polizia! I knew this was BS as she was trying to get me to panic and take my eyes of my wallet for a few seconds. At that point I start putting my pants on and she now says the police are gone and I can get naked and lie down again. I say no thanks and keep putting my clothes one.
At that point she slaps me in the face as hard as her 80 pound body could. Didn't bother me and I kept putting my clothes on. Then she realized the games over so starts reaching into my pockets to grab my wallet or phone but fails. At that point I grab her by the arm and throw her out the door. I start saying "robaro, robaro" and made a bit of a scene on the street. I was still barefoot and shirtless. At this point the girl ran away and several girls and the mamasan that sold the room came to ask what was wrong.
Nothing ending up being stolen and no real harm was done. But I think I'm done with street girls. Last year I was also robbed by a street girl where she asked me to put my clothes on hooks next to the door. I'm pretty sure during the session, someone grabbed my wallet and took maybe seven 50 K COP notes, since there was only one left in my wallet after the session. Not 100% sure I was robbed, but I think so.
I was a bit angry after the recent incident, but after I reflect back, the girl is probably desperate for money as is almost everyone else in the area. Getting my wallet stolen wouldn't have been a huge deal for me as there's only cash there, no credit cards or anything else. It would just have been a wasted day since there's no ATMs open at night time as far as I'm aware (I do keep a couple 50 K notes in a secret underwear pocket, but that's not for mongering, it's for taxi fare in case I get robbed). I far larger danger would have been if I accidentally hurt her after she got violent with me. Not much chance of that as I have pretty good control. But still I don't want to deal with this type of issue again. Never had an issue with theft or anything else inside the clubs.
That single bad incident aside, I love COLOMBIA and can't wait to go back again.
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