Bogota Reports

[ClamSlammer]

Kinda boring TR about my personal experiences in Bogota with very little puta info.

Decided to fly down to Bogota solo in the middle of August, mainly to see this chica I met off SA my previous trip in April. 18, skinny, all natural, right up my alley except has a decent amount of tatts. My last trip we had met up to eat at Crepes. We had corresponded for a couple of weeks before my arrival. I scoured the clearance items at Sephora and Victoria Secret and invested about $25 in gifts that probably looked like I spent $100. Anyhow, she was so delighted she could hardly contain her smile. Poor girl. Anyhow, we hit it off and met up again a couple days later. Went out to eat in Usaquen, then Dollar City, then back to my hotel NH Pavilions Parque 93. Decent hotel, great location at the Parque. I think I paid around $30/ night through Hotwire. Anyway the sex was awkward. It was obvious that she suffered through a traumatic sexual experience. Later I found out that indeed, she was assaulted at a very young age by a relative. Anyhow, my flight was the next morning so I called her an Uber and flew out the next day.

She had been constantly texting me since then. Every morning, the first thing I would do was to read her text. It was obvious that she thought we were novios. She would videocall me with her family right there and make me say Hi to her mom and all. I wasn't really interested in meeting her family but oh well, no harm done. She had been bothering me about visiting again, so almost 4 months after our first meeting, I got on a flight. I arrive in Bogota and the next afternoon, I called an Uber to take me to her apartment which she shared with her mother and brother. It was in the far NW section of Bogota, and with traffic took almost 45 minutes to get there. It was a rather modest apartment in a questionable neighborhood not too far from Plaza Imperial. Bathroom sink had no hot water. There was a huge 25 gallon plastic tub in the shower. Maybe they fill it and use one of those metal plug-in stick heaters to shower. Some other relatives are over, so I meet them all. She says her grandma needs shoes, so the three of us grab a Didi to the mall and get grandma shoes. Grandma picks out a pair of tenis, then asks the price. My chica tells her $131 k and Grandma is immediately like "no, no!" My chica shows them to me and tells me the price. What am I going to say? So I approve and as soon as I sign the credit card receipt, Grandma instantly gives me a hug and kiss. She was genuinely very grateful. We head back to her apt and an hour later she wants to go eat. 8 of us total. Nice dinner, I pick up the $370 k tab. After dinner, I'm about to call an Uber to take me to my hotel in Chico Norte and her mom simply would not let me go. She was insisting that I stay the night with her daughter. She was quite firm about it so I had no choice.

Next day we grab an Uber to the hotel. She wants to go out and eat with her family. This time there's 9 of us. We get to the restaurant and her family is having no mercy on the tab. They are ordering everything in sight. Even the kids are ordering two entrees in probably the most expensive restaurant they've ever been to. The foreigner picks up the tab $770 k. At this point I'm not too pleased with being a walking ATM machine. Next, they want to go Play Land. Another $200 k to reload the game card. And I'm paying double Ubers because there's 9 of us. At this point I've just about had enough. $330 usd I've blown on her family in 2 days. Not to mention $500 usd in gifts I had brought which probably looked like $1500 usd because I bargain hunt at Ross and Marshalls. We go back to her apt for a bit and then back to the hotel. She's on the rag. I'm irritated to begin with. We argue and she leaves. So that's that. I fire up Tinder and SA. Tinder is kinda a lost cause. I got like 50 likes in a day, but no matches. SA is just out of control. 120 likes and 40 messages in two days. So I got options. I've got 7 more days in Bogota with no chica so I got to get to work.

Honestly I don't remember what I did for the next couple days. I'd walk to the McDonald's in Parque 93 every night to eat dinner because I hate Colombian food. Late night I'd park my ass at a stool at BBC but no luck with the civies there. Out of desperation, I agree to meet an SA chica for dinner at Titan Plaza. She initially resisted saying she had no money. I told her of course, no problem picking up the tab. Finally she relented and we met up. 20 years old, looks white, speaks a little English, cute, quirky but not my type. Had a nice meal and went to movie. Very nice girl, not a hint of puta in her. After the movie, walked around the mall for a bit. Then called her a Didi and went back to hotel solo.

At this point, I only had two nights left in Bogota and still hadn't gotten laid. The second SA chica was way too wholesome and I knew she wasn't going to put out so soon so I had to find alternatives. I hit up mileroticos. Found a white-looking blonde that struck my fancy. Went by the name Michele. Her ad can easily be found still. Pics wearing red lingerie. Thin, large see-cups, couple small tattoos. She's actually Venezuelan and has a 4 why / o there but damage is minimal. $90 k for hh and $50 k BBBJ upgrade. I get in Uber and say I'm on my way. She replies back quickly saying "OK." I get there 10 minutes later and she won't respond. I walk down to a little cafe and order an agua gaseosa. Finally, about 40 minutes after I arrived, she answers and I head back over. It's a rather large house in Polo Club not far from Parque el Virrey. So I ring the bell and this dude answers, he says hold on to go confirm with Michele. A minute later, he lets me in and directs me upstairs. There's around 6 bedrooms, and I knock on the one that the guy directs me to. Michele answers and lets me in. She's very hot, accurately represented in her pics, but does appear worn. So we have what I'd describe as a glorified SG session (even though I've never touched a SG in my life) except she got fully naked and let me change positions as I pleased. Lots of rules. No this, no that, don't touch this, wouldn't fully spread her legs, etc. But her attitude wasn't cold though. Afterwards, we chatted a bit. She actually asked questions and listened like she was interested. She told me there's like 6 other putas that work in that house, but they're all older except for one who is equally hot named Khloe. She has black hair and slightly thicker but still smoking hot. I plan to take her for a spin my next visit to Bogota. So I get Michelle's personal WhatsApp and she asks me to text her so she could have my number. Might have been a mistake because 3 days later she hit me up saying she had a medical emergency. Being the hardcore seasoned monger that I am, I immediately dismissed her pleas without a second thought. 6 days later she hits me up again. I tell her I'm in USA And she says ok without any further pleas for help.

So after my session with Michele, I had a second date with the 2nd SA chica. We go eat at her favorite restaurant in Usaquen. Food was below average but she apparently liked it. Then we go walking around some centro commercial in Santa Barbara. Actually kind nice. My flight was at 2 am so we had some time to kill. Grab a Starbucks and just walk around. We go inside a grocery store and she starts looking at a paperback. I ask her if she likes that book and I could see her eyes light up. So I offer to buy it for her and she's like "no. " I insist and she relents. $51 k. She's like almost giddy over a $12 usd book. We order an InDriver, I get dropped off at my hotel and she goes home. Later that night I go to catch my flight to CDMX and she's constantly texting. To this day she's constantly texting me. Not the slightest hint of wanting any money. I dunno. She's practically begging to be novios but she's not my type. We'll see what happens. SA #1 is back to texting me every day. I've been wiring her small amounts the past 4 months, $35-$120 usd, almost $1000 usd total. Sometimes she would ask for it, saying she wanted to buy clothes, or sometimes bills or pay for school. Other times, I would just send a few bucks unsolicited, to take her mom out to eat for Mother's Day or whatever. I think she's started to miss that $225 usd / month, which is pretty substantial for an 18 year old in Bogota. She's sweet though, and brutally honest. And I feel bad because of the trauma she had to endure. Plus she suffers from a medical condition that greatly limits prospects in life.

Anyhow, I actually had one InDriver tell me to pay him while inside the car because the cops will fine him / impound his vehicle because ridesharing is illegal. This is why some of you pass on false info about ridesharing being illegal, because the local population which has a 2nd grade education believes it. But come on guys, with a Western education and an ounce of common sense you would know that no way in hell could you operate a business that big illegally. No way on Earth it is possible to run a multi trillion peso industry illegally without the government finding out about it and cutting access to its servers. I believe that the cops tell rideshare drivers that their work is illegal, in hopes of being offered a large bribe in order to avoid their car being impounded. And the drivers believe it because it is such a common tactic. Perhaps some who refuse to bribe actually get their car impounded, but not solely for being a rideshare. The cops tack on bullshit charges in order to justify the impound.

Lastly, some financial info that may be of benefit to some. The casas de cambio at the airport all suck. During my trip, interbank was around 4400/1. The casa at BOG baggage claim was offering 4000. There were a couple of casas outside baggage claim and they were at 4000 and 3550. There is a casa de cambio in Chico Norte, across from Escuela Militar Granada, where all the bank towers are. I had been changing money there for $4000-$4100. Right outside Parque 93 there is a tall office tower. On the first floor there are a handful of casa de cambios. I got 4130 there the same day the Granada cambio offered $4000. Still a ripoff but not as bad as the airport. Also, when I paid for dinner tab was $370 k. I paid with my credit card and was offered to charge in pesos or $90 dls. I quickly whipped out my phone calculator to crunch the numbers but there is some sort of time limit. After a few seconds, the machine automatically chose dollars for me. And I know why, because their conversation rate is a ripoff, just like the offered conversion rates at ATMs. Had I chose pesos, I would have been charged $80 dls by my bank. So I got ripped off $10 on what should have been an $80 usd transactions. That's 12.5% which is quite steep. So any time you are offered pesos or dollars on a credit card transaction, always choose pesos.

[LatinaLover#1]

I can't count or rather remember, memories going jaja. How many restaurants I've eaten at. But I think both is true, I need to separate pre and post Covid. The pandemic did a lot of damage to to the restaurant scene. One of the top 5 restaurants in Bogota was Matiz, A fern covered corner restaurant very near my hotel, didn't make it thru Covid another on Calle 97 was a tipico Paisa restaurant, the waitresses were all dressed up like Paisa farm girls and the food was great. Lots of tipico Colombian dishes and they had a top notch Filet Mignon, closed by covid was sold and the place, although they are keeping the same motif, it's a shadow of the original. Finally one of my favorites was Andre's Provence in Usaquéand, again didn't make it thru Coved, was reopen a year later and it was a mess. I don't recommend.

The few I can still recommend are Pajares Salinas, a Espana Tapas restaurant in Chico Norte and very good and pricey. DiLucca's as mentioned in the post above is still good with the trendy Colombians. A fun place with a great reputation and good food is Andres Carne, but not in DC it's up north a bit in Chia. Finally my number one go to is Jacques Pasteleria in Chico Navarra. If your looking for local tipico restaurants there are hundreds, but it may not be your cup of tea. However the international restaurant scene is struggling but slowly coming back. I've taken lots of dates to my favorits and the girls are always impressed. You can't go wrong if you take a hot Colombiana to Andres Carne de res in Chia. Great steaks, hot women everywhere a great place to dance and drink Aguadiente from the bottle on the dance floor. It's like the old saying. "it's what you make of it" Colombia can still be a fun trip if you keep a positive vibe. My 5th trip this year will happen again next month.

[Mr Enternational]

I agree with most of your post, but you're paying $40 usd for SG's in Tijuana? Not long ago, they were going for $200 mx ($11 usd.)

Same here, but remember most guys like to fuck themselves by paying in dollars. You walk up to a chick and ask how much and she says $20. You say I only have pesos and she says 200 pesos (which as you pointed out is half as much as $20). Then you are off to the room. He probably says okay $20, then gets a couple of add ONS which brings it to $40 instead of the 400 pesos ($20) he would be paying if he negotiated in Mexican pesos.

[ClamSlammer]

I couldn't disagree with you more about Santa Fe. Hot chicas standing in front of every love motel and on every corner. Meseros couldn't be nicer to me, smiles on their faces every time I see them.

As I stated before, I have zero interest in SG's. I haven't even went to take a look at the street talent in SF because I'm just not interested so I don't have anything to say regarding that topic. Colombian meseros, in my limited experience, are far more hospitable than the constantly scamming Tijuana meseros. But I could care less about some dudes being all friendly and smiling at me. It wouldn't be the highlight of my day so I wouldn't report about it on a puta forum.

As for the rest of Bogota, where the fuck have you been trying to eat? Who cares if you hate Colombian food, there are incredible restaurants everywhere in this city. Harry Sasson, Cacio & Pepe, La Brasserie, Di Lucca, La Bonga, La Tequeria, WOK, Storia, Astoria rooftop, Andres, home burgers, masa 81, Criterion, Conosur, casa del Rey, La Picaderia, El Tambor, crepes & waffles.

You might as well add McDonald's and KFC to your list. Because when I travel to another continent, part of the pleasure is the experience of immersing myself in the local culture, and cuisine is part of that culture. That's where Bogota fails miserably. The local food just sucks. And traveling 6,000 miles to eat burgers and waffles is not something I find particularly enticing. I imagine all of the restaurants you listed serve non-Colombian food, thus proving my point that Colombian foods sucks ass.

If the girls in Santa fe aren't your speed, maybe try out Lido, the club is nicer than most American strip clubs I've been to, and I've been to maybe 100. The lights are turned up and the music is turned down so that you can chat with the girls. The girls are stunners, dressed elegantly with their hair and make up done up perfect. They're expensive, $75-125 per hour. But so are your Tijuana girls.

I've been to Lido several times, along with Loutron down the street. Yes, it is very nice, well lit, and not loud. My type of environment. But the costs are prohibitively expensive. I think an ordinary beer costs $60 k. That's just too much for a 3rd world brothel. I don't like the feeling that I get when I'm getting gouged, and that is exactly what they do to their customers. The girls are okay, certainly better than SF quality. I found one that I would consider and 8. The rest are 6-7. I'm scared to know how much they charge for a chica drink. I usually nurse my beer for an hour then walk back to my hotel at WTC.

[ClamSlammer]

HKTJ rooms and clean rooms nearby are $100/ night unless you go on Monday, Tuesday. SG's as low as $40...quality of the WOMEN in Colombia is amazing.

I agree with most of your post, but you're paying $40 usd for SG's in Tijuana? Not long ago, they were going for $200 mx ($11 usd.) I can't imagine them raising prices 4 x in such a short amount of time. Also, there were tolerable clean rooms in and near the Zona not too long ago. Rooms at La Carreta were around $25 usd and Hotel Velario currently rents rooms for around $50 usd. SA Bogota has way more attractive women than SA Tijuana, but I think that me be because of the population disparity. Colombian women, in my opinion, are no hotter than any other demographic. I've walked around several plazas in Bogota and was not impressed with the women I saw. Same thing in Medellin. I'd say that Colombian women are actually below average as compared to the rest of the world.

[DonCarlos1234]

Clam, I've seen your posts in the Tijuana section. Not doubting your experience and I Haven't been to HK post COVID so haven't seen the expansion but from everything I'm seeing on this board and other Tijuana boards it's good. I'm specifically looking to travel on the busier club nights of the week. There have been plenty of times during the day on sundays where the lineup in HK has been poor and yes sometimes there's been about 15-20 girls. I'm kinda ballparking it as I don't sit there and literally count the individual girls just as I'm assuming you're ballparking it by saying there's now 900 chicas on the weekend. Many of the chicas are repeats on Thu, Fri & Sat nights and I've never seen the club come anywhere close to 600 girls in a night? Not going to argue over specific numbers as it may be close to 100 but I sure as hell have not seen 600 chicas in 1 night at HK. What are you talking about lmao?

Again, if you read my post I am not looking for HK type girls. Colombia has them as well. I am more into spinner, or young, slim, small tits and ass type girls. HK rarely has this but when they do I scoop them up. Short, petite, young, innocent looking chicas typically started off in Tropical and for a little while Tropical was great. It's since declined with the odd one or two girls appearing. Same in HK, they'll have the odd one or two girls like this and an occasional almost too thin girl but it's not the norm. Those are the girls I like. As far as SG talent, I've been with all the sg's that fit that bill in Tijuana. Karina, Michelle, etc etc. So I'm on the lookout for new options. In addition, HK girls and for that matter most tropical girls start at $100 usd. I got a HK type girl in Troya for I think it was $65 usd which included cumming over her pretty, cute face and mouth. HK I'the be at $100 before even adding the cost of COF or CIM.

Secondly, I know what Tijuana will give me. I've been there numerous times, but like I said I was pleasantly surprised that the sg's in Santa Fe were not all "stereotypical" Colombians with fat butts and major curves. When I was there I saw quite a few girls that fit my cute, young, slim, short look. As noted in my posts as well, I was there on business so had limited time to visit Santa Fe except for early to late afternoons so not the best time to judge clubs by (including Tijuana clubs) but there were a few young girls that fit those exact needs in Paisas one afternoon specifically.

Thirdly, variety is the spice of life. Tijuana's great for a couple of days but after that I need something else to do to pass a few hours post and pre sport fucking. Places like CDMX and Bogota give me that. I can fuck as much as I want but then if I want to break away for a few hours I can sightsee, grab some amazing coffee / food, visit markets, etc. Tijuana doesn't give that unless I go back across the border or travel to the Tijuana beaches (which realistically aren't the best and take too long to get to).

So, again, if you've been to the clubs in Santa Fe then let's stick to the question which has now already been answered but. What's been your experience to the number of girls in the clubs there on a Friday, Saturday night?

BOG. The costs of the SG's in Santa Fe are dirt cheap. The vibe is horrible. The rooms are mostly filthy. 15 min is standard. Hurry up and finish. Pay more, get more time (maybe) In the clubs the hottest girls (club girls) charge 150 COP +/ Take out costs 200+/- depending on time, girl and destination. Risky. I found 2/3 girls in 6 trips there that I wanted to do. The time spent searching for one was far more than in Tijuana.

I met a lot of SA girls in BOG, all 10's and semi expensive. $600 COP for 2 hours and sometimes dinners after. I would repeat with any of them. Great memories. So the price range is considerable as is the quality of your experience.

SF -Your MMV. If you are used to this area it means you have learned what to expect. Woodman can save you time. Bogota rooms outside of SF are much less expensive than in Tijuana, very nice with tons of choices.

Tijuana –costs to travel are under $100 for a flight or driving. HKTJ rooms and clean rooms nearby are $100/ night unless you go on Monday, Tuesday. SG's as low as $40. Club girls starting at $80 for 15/20 min in a nice, clean room. The short term rooms outside of HKTJ are slightly better than SF.

The VIBE. In Tijuana The ocean is 15 min away. Nicer beaches in Rosarito and south are 20-30 min away. Very nice. Rooms in hktj are very nice. Food nearby is horrible to decent. Away from the zona food is terrific.

Comparatively. BOG is a far better deal on rooms. It might cost you $600 usd for a flight that takes 10-12 hours plus time at airports. Same cost for Medellin unless you live in Miami. So you spend 2 days traveling. Personally I will go to SF and see what is available but I will already check with previous girls or look for new ones on SA or on agency sites before I get on the plane. Those girls will cost $70-$120 for 1 ½ - 2 hours. Most will be hotter than any Tijuana girl. Minimum to justify the trip is a week stay. In the past I stayed for a month and longer.

Medellin is a different world. So many guys visiting now. Not going to write about that here but it was terrific, beautiful city as is Colombia! (and expensive).

Bottom line (for me) going to Tijuana is affordable for 2 nights. I am very picky but the odds are I will find one or 2 girls. Cost a minimum of $600 USD and either leave for USA or head south for the Ocean.

Going to BOG means planning to stay at least 7 nights. Probably 10 so I can visit Medellin also. Airfare $600, plus room $300 +/ plus entertainment. $600 +/- plus meals $250+/- Total minimum trip - $1800. Alas I know I will probably meet a 10 somewhere and that will put me over budget. It is hard to pass up on the most beautiful women you will find anywhere. Then there is the rest of the country.

So (for me) Tijuana cost is 1/3 of Bog. Ambiance is OK and I usually go to the Ocean while I am there (used to live there) the TIME factor to visit BOG sucks but the quality of the WOMEN in Colombia is amazing. You need to treat them nice and see what happens. Unless you are in SF. They are cheap.

[GotToGo11]

Hello,

Visiting Bogota for 1st time in a few days, wanted to get an advice whether to use your regular international number or get an eSIM for connecting with Chicas?

[Marglo]

I couldn't disagree with you more about Santa Fe. Hot chicas standing in front of every love motel and on every corner. Meseros couldn't be nicer to me, smiles on their faces every time I see them. I've spent almost 20 days in Bogota, I'm here currently. I've been down to Sante Fe both day and night. I've been solo, I've been with my Venezuelan born best friend from America. I've been on Woodmans tour. I haven't felt unsafe for even a moment. There are cops everywhere, there were armed military last night. There's good food at king swarma, there's good food at the bakery on Calle 23, I've had good street food down there too. I've gotten laid from a street girl for as low as $10 and from a club girl for as low as $15. Santa Fe is incredible.

As for the rest of Bogota, where the fuck have you been trying to eat? Who cares if you hate Colombian food, there are incredible restaurants everywhere in this city. Harry Sasson, Cacio & Pepe, La Brasserie, Di Lucca, La Bonga, La Tequeria, WOK, Storia, Astoria rooftop, Andres, home burgers, masa 81, Criterion, Conosur, casa del Rey, La Picaderia, El Tambor, crepes & waffles. If you're not eating some of the best food you've ever had at a fraction of the cost you could get it in the states, you've missed one of the absolute best things Bogota has to offer besides their sex workers. If the girls in Santa fe aren't your speed, maybe try out Lido, the club is nicer than most American strip clubs I've been to, and I've been to maybe 100. The lights are turned up and the music is turned down so that you can chat with the girls. The girls are stunners, dressed elegantly with their hair and make up done up perfect. They're expensive, $75-125 per hour. But so are your Tijuana girls.

It sounds like you've got a perspective issue. I hated Medellin when I was in parque Lleras, it was too Americanized for me personally. So I moved hotels to centro and found exactly what I was looking for in Botero Plaza and the surrounding brothels and strip clubs. I've stayed in 5 different neighborhoods in Bogota on my trip so that I could get multiple perspectives of each area and it's opened my eyes to a lot.

For supper try, Amarte, T-Bone, Ushin, Madison. !

[Frisky Frank]

I couldn't disagree with you more about Santa Fe. Hot chicas standing in front of every love motel and on every corner. Meseros couldn't be nicer to me, smiles on their faces every time I see them. I've spent almost 20 days in Bogota, I'm here currently. I've been down to Sante Fe both day and night. I've been solo, I've been with my Venezuelan born best friend from America. I've been on Woodmans tour. I haven't felt unsafe for even a moment. There are cops everywhere, there were armed military last night. There's good food at king swarma, there's good food at the bakery on Calle 23, I've had good street food down there too. I've gotten laid from a street girl for as low as $10 and from a club girl for as low as $15. Santa Fe is incredible.

As for the rest of Bogota, where the fuck have you been trying to eat? Who cares if you hate Colombian food, there are incredible restaurants everywhere in this city. Harry Sasson, Cacio & Pepe, La Brasserie, Di Lucca, La Bonga, La Tequeria, WOK, Storia, Astoria rooftop, Andres, home burgers, masa 81, Criterion, Conosur, casa del Rey, La Picaderia, El Tambor, crepes & waffles. If you're not eating some of the best food you've ever had at a fraction of the cost you could get it in the states, you've missed one of the absolute best things Bogota has to offer besides their sex workers. If the girls in Santa fe aren't your speed, maybe try out Lido, the club is nicer than most American strip clubs I've been to, and I've been to maybe 100. The lights are turned up and the music is turned down so that you can chat with the girls. The girls are stunners, dressed elegantly with their hair and make up done up perfect. They're expensive, $75-125 per hour. But so are your Tijuana girls.

It sounds like you've got a perspective issue. I hated Medellin when I was in parque Lleras, it was too Americanized for me personally. So I moved hotels to centro and found exactly what I was looking for in Botero Plaza and the surrounding brothels and strip clubs. I've stayed in 5 different neighborhoods in Bogota on my trip so that I could get multiple perspectives of each area and it's opened my eyes to a lot.

DaVinci, I actually agree with most of your points. Except for the chica count at HK. Pre-Covid, you know how it was. Fri / Sat nights were jam packed, wall to wall putas packed like sardines. HK has a mandatory policy of having chicas dance on the two main bars, two main stages, and the satellite stages. So just there, you have about 15 chicas. Miami room would always have around 25 chicas. 2nd floor north end would have 80 chicas sitting at the tables. South end would have around 50. The mini stairs on the first floor would be flanked on both sides by around 20 chicas. The area around the main stage would have 100 chicas. Alley stage another 80 chicas. Count all the chicas that you can't see, probably at least 75 in the locker rooms changing outfits and fixing their makeup. 30-40 in the bathrooms at at any given time. Probably at least 50 getting fucked in Cascadas. The deadest weekend night would have minimum 400 chicas. Sit upstairs, where the stairs are that lead to the locker rooms. You will see a steady stream of chicas coming down, literally non-stop. I mean, you will literally not see more than 3 seconds pass between chicas for hours and hours. Truly unbelievable! You are correct, my numbers are ballparked because there is no way possible to keep count that high. But it is an intelligent estimate based on my direct observations. You admit that you "ballparked" your estimate as well. But, that kind of defeats your own argument because there is no reason to ballpark a number that low. You can easily keep an accurate count of up to a maximum of 20 chicas. So your contention does not make sense..

[Woodman09]

Cheers Gents! How do I request for a tour with Woodman? Please forgive my ignorance if someone already posted about it.

I sent a DM to a user named woodman9 but did not receive a response. Any info here is appreciated.

Your message storage needs clearing. I could not reply to your PM.

[LoverG]

Cheers Gents! How do I request for a tour with Woodman? Please forgive my ignorance if someone already posted about it.

I sent a DM to a user named woodman9 but did not receive a response. Any info here is appreciated.

Have you got a subscribtion? I paid for mine last week, emailed admin twice and still no answer.

[BarrioSpinners]

Looking forward to the SF tour with woodman.

BTW: exch rate at the airport:

USDCOP: 4000. :8% worse than midmarket.

From ATM: 4242. :5%.

Sim card at the airport shop after customs: $30 for 10 GB /7 days. I thought I saw it as "USD 30" rather than COP so I skipped. If I am mistaken, and it was COP 30 k, then ii guess its a reasonble markup for the convenience. If not, going to a phone shop yields much lower rates.

Have you got a subscribtion? I paid for mine last week, emailed admin twice and still no answer.

[ClamSlammer]

Clam, I've seen your posts in the Tijuana section. Not doubting your experience and I Haven't been to HK post COVID so haven't seen the expansion but from everything I'm seeing on this board and other Tijuana boards it's good. I'm specifically looking to travel on the busier club nights of the week. There have been plenty of times during the day on sundays where the lineup in HK has been poor and yes sometimes there's been about 15-20 girls. I'm kinda ballparking it as I don't sit there and literally count the individual girls just as I'm assuming you're ballparking it by saying there's now 900 chicas on the weekend. Many of the chicas are repeats on Thu, Fri & Sat nights and I've never seen the club come anywhere close to 600 girls in a night? Not going to argue over specific numbers as it may be close to 100 but I sure as hell have not seen 600 chicas in 1 night at HK. What are you talking about lmao?

Again, if you read my post I am not looking for HK type girls. Colombia has them as well. I am more into spinner, or young, slim, small tits and ass type girls. HK rarely has this but when they do I scoop them up. Short, petite, young, innocent looking chicas typically started off in Tropical and for a little while Tropical was great. It's since declined with the odd one or two girls appearing. Same in HK, they'll have the odd one or two girls like this and an occasional almost too thin girl but it's not the norm. Those are the girls I like. As far as SG talent, I've been with all the sg's that fit that bill in Tijuana. Karina, Michelle, etc etc. So I'm on the lookout for new options. In addition, HK girls and for that matter most tropical girls start at $100 usd. I got a HK type girl in Troya for I think it was $65 usd which included cumming over her pretty, cute face and mouth. HK I'the be at $100 before even adding the cost of COF or CIM.

Secondly, I know what Tijuana will give me. I've been there numerous times, but like I said I was pleasantly surprised that the sg's in Santa Fe were not all "stereotypical" Colombians with fat butts and major curves. When I was there I saw quite a few girls that fit my cute, young, slim, short look. As noted in my posts as well, I was there on business so had limited time to visit Santa Fe except for early to late afternoons so not the best time to judge clubs by (including Tijuana clubs) but there were a few young girls that fit those exact needs in Paisas one afternoon specifically.

Thirdly, variety is the spice of life. Tijuana's great for a couple of days but after that I need something else to do to pass a few hours post and pre sport fucking. Places like CDMX and Bogota give me that. I can fuck as much as I want but then if I want to break away for a few hours I can sightsee, grab some amazing coffee / food, visit markets, etc. Tijuana doesn't give that unless I go back across the border or travel to the Tijuana beaches (which realistically aren't the best and take too long to get to).

So, again, if you've been to the clubs in Santa Fe then let's stick to the question which has now already been answered but. What's been your experience to the number of girls in the clubs there on a Friday, Saturday night?

DaVinci, I actually agree with most of your points. Except for the chica count at HK. Pre-Covid, you know how it was. Fri / Sat nights were jam packed, wall to wall putas packed like sardines. HK has a mandatory policy of having chicas dance on the two main bars, two main stages, and the satellite stages. So just there, you have about 15 chicas. Miami room would always have around 25 chicas. 2nd floor north end would have 80 chicas sitting at the tables. South end would have around 50. The mini stairs on the first floor would be flanked on both sides by around 20 chicas. The area around the main stage would have 100 chicas. Alley stage another 80 chicas. Count all the chicas that you can't see, probably at least 75 in the locker rooms changing outfits and fixing their makeup. 30-40 in the bathrooms at at any given time. Probably at least 50 getting fucked in Cascadas. The deadest weekend night would have minimum 400 chicas. Sit upstairs, where the stairs are that lead to the locker rooms. You will see a steady stream of chicas coming down, literally non-stop. I mean, you will literally not see more than 3 seconds pass between chicas for hours and hours. Truly unbelievable! You are correct, my numbers are ballparked because there is no way possible to keep count that high. But it is an intelligent estimate based on my direct observations. You admit that you "ballparked" your estimate as well. But, that kind of defeats your own argument because there is no reason to ballpark a number that low. You can easily keep an accurate count of up to a maximum of 20 chicas. So your contention does not make sense.

Your taste is the same as mine. I go for the clean-looking, innocent-looking skinny natural ones. That's it. Big titted, even natural, doesn't appeal to me. I don't like tatts either but these days it's next to impossible to find a puta who isn't tatted.

And I agree that Bogota is much more economical than Tijuana. Tijuana shares a border with a wealthy American city, and LOS Angeles, San Francisco, Vegas and Phoenix a manageable drive away. The influx of gringo dollars has surely influenced market prices of putas in Tijuana. Bogota, due to its distance, has not been affected by gringo dollars at anywhere near the scale Tijuana has.

Also agreed is how variety is the spice of life. Frankly, I'm burned out by Tijuana and that's why I've been making recent trips to Bogota. If I had been mongering in Bogota for the past 10 years, I'm sure I'd be itching to visit Tijuana.

Street talent I have no interest in so I really have no comment on Santa Fe vs. Tijuana. 10 years ago, SG's were elbow to elbow in ZN and there were some stunners. Lately, it's thinned down quite a bit and looks-wise it's down as well.

As far as comfort of the clubs, I don't think anybody will argue that Santa Fe is even in the same ballpark as Tijuana. The main clubs in Tijuana feature an American level of comfort and amenities. I've been to all the Santa Fe bars and they are all miserable dumps. Even the lower tier Tijuana clubs such as Gold Palace / La Carreta / La Valentina / Dolce Gabbana / Playboy are all considerably nicer than the best Santa Fe clubs. La Hacienda across from MQ is the only Tijuana club shitty enough to be compared to Sante Fe clubs.

I don't even like Mexican food that much but it is still worlds better than Colombian food. You're saying that Bogota has better food than Tijuana? Coffee yes, but the food? No way man! I find it funny that Colombians and Venezuelans argue over which country invented the arepa. It's like, who the fuck wants to take credit for such horrible food? Colombia has arguably the worst food on the planet. The reason why Colombians eat so many hot dogs, ribs, wings, hamburgers and pizza is that their own food sucks ass. You ever seen a Colombian restaurant outside of Colombia? They don't exist because nobody wants to eat that shit.

Bogota is a much bigger city than Tijuana but the reality is, there isn't much to sightsee there. The danger level for gringos in the southern areas like Soacha, Bosa, Cuidad Bolivar is way too high to venture out. Usaquen, Chico Norte, Santa Barbara, North Chapinero, Parque 93 and Cedritos are nice and relatively safe. Considerably nicer than Tijuana I admit. I did see an Cartier boutique in Usaquen which surprised me. But outside of those areas, there is nothing to see in Bogota. Tijuana at least has the beach and Valle de Guadalupe a short drive away.

As far as the Santa Fe clubs on a weekend, I wouldn't know. I have no desire to ever go back there. It's too dangerous and I don't like the vibe there. Tijuana patrons are mostly Americans or normal locals going to drink and have a good time. Santa Fe has a whole different vibe. The clientele, I can just tell, many are violent criminals. I visited a few other clubs in Bogota like Mora Mora and I did not feel such a negative vibe. Felt like Tijuana, just normal guys going out to have a good time drinking. I don't know if you read my previous Bogota TR, but I was actually assaulted inside Fiebre on a Thursday night in late April. An attempted robbery but I managed to escape largely unscathed. So if you go, be extra careful. The Venezuelans there are desperate and just don't give a fuck about harming a foreigner for financial benefit.

[DaVinci40]

Clam, I've seen your posts in the Tijuana section. Not doubting your experience and I Haven't been to HK post COVID so haven't seen the expansion but from everything I'm seeing on this board and other Tijuana boards it's good. I'm specifically looking to travel on the busier club nights of the week. There have been plenty of times during the day on sundays where the lineup in HK has been poor and yes sometimes there's been about 15-20 girls. I'm kinda ballparking it as I don't sit there and literally count the individual girls just as I'm assuming you're ballparking it by saying there's now 900 chicas on the weekend. Many of the chicas are repeats on Thu, Fri & Sat nights and I've never seen the club come anywhere close to 600 girls in a night? Not going to argue over specific numbers as it may be close to 100 but I sure as hell have not seen 600 chicas in 1 night at HK. What are you talking about lmao?

Again, if you read my post I am not looking for HK type girls. Colombia has them as well. I am more into spinner, or young, slim, small tits and ass type girls. HK rarely has this but when they do I scoop them up. Short, petite, young, innocent looking chicas typically started off in Tropical and for a little while Tropical was great. It's since declined with the odd one or two girls appearing. Same in HK, they'll have the odd one or two girls like this and an occasional almost too thin girl but it's not the norm. Those are the girls I like. As far as SG talent, I've been with all the sg's that fit that bill in Tijuana. Karina, Michelle, etc etc. So I'm on the lookout for new options. In addition, HK girls and for that matter most tropical girls start at $100 usd. I got a HK type girl in Troya for I think it was $65 usd which included cumming over her pretty, cute face and mouth. HK I'the be at $100 before even adding the cost of COF or CIM.

Secondly, I know what Tijuana will give me. I've been there numerous times, but like I said I was pleasantly surprised that the sg's in Santa Fe were not all "stereotypical" Colombians with fat butts and major curves. When I was there I saw quite a few girls that fit my cute, young, slim, short look. As noted in my posts as well, I was there on business so had limited time to visit Santa Fe except for early to late afternoons so not the best time to judge clubs by (including Tijuana clubs) but there were a few young girls that fit those exact needs in Paisas one afternoon specifically.

Thirdly, variety is the spice of life. Tijuana's great for a couple of days but after that I need something else to do to pass a few hours post and pre sport fucking. Places like CDMX and Bogota give me that. I can fuck as much as I want but then if I want to break away for a few hours I can sightsee, grab some amazing coffee / food, visit markets, etc. Tijuana doesn't give that unless I go back across the border or travel to the Tijuana beaches (which realistically aren't the best and take too long to get to).

So, again, if you've been to the clubs in Santa Fe then let's stick to the question which has now already been answered but. What's been your experience to the number of girls in the clubs there on a Friday, Saturday night?

15 girls? WTF you talking about? Pre-annexation of Chavelas, HK used to regularly have 600 putas on a weekend. Now that they absorbed Las Chevelas and its chicas, and with the west wing expansion, I'd say HK features 900 chicas on a weekend. Weeknights maybe 250 putas. Sante Fe has only one advantage over Tijuana, and that is cost. Putas and drinks cost significantly less in Santa Fe. Tijuana has more chicas, better looking chicas, better food options, safer, and is more accessible for most USA mongers. But there is absolutely no comparison between Santa Fe clubs and Tijuana Clubs. It's like comparing a Maybach to a skateboard. HK by itself outperforms every Bogota club combined. Comfort-wise, the Bogota clubs are on par Hacienda, which is the worst, most disgusting club in Tijuana. And I hate Hong Kong.

[ClamSlammer]

Tijuana's main draw is that it has HK and there are probably at least 15+ girls (40+ at nights)

15 girls? WTF you talking about? Pre-annexation of Chavelas, HK used to regularly have 600 putas on a weekend. Now that they absorbed Las Chevelas and its chicas, and with the west wing expansion, I'd say HK features 900 chicas on a weekend. Weeknights maybe 250 putas. Sante Fe has only one advantage over Tijuana, and that is cost. Putas and drinks cost significantly less in Santa Fe. Tijuana has more chicas, better looking chicas, better food options, safer, and is more accessible for most USA mongers. But there is absolutely no comparison between Santa Fe clubs and Tijuana Clubs. It's like comparing a Maybach to a skateboard. HK by itself outperforms every Bogota club combined. Comfort-wise, the Bogota clubs are on par Hacienda, which is the worst, most disgusting club in Tijuana. And I hate Hong Kong.