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  1. #10173
    Quote Originally Posted by Trim1  [View Original Post]
    Where is a good place to take a leak in Santa Fe? Do you do it in the bathroom attached to the room after the session? I try to leave as quickly as possible after the knock comes. Should I buy some food at one of the restaurants in the area and use their bathroom?
    Alaska Bakery on CL 23 or the Shwarma place.

  2. #10172

    Negotiating in Santa Fe, Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    It does not seem like you are shy, but it seems like you need to be more assertive. No lion is going to be feasting on prey then see a hyena off in the distance with his mouth watering and say well I will just let the hyena deal with this carcass and come back later. You were there first. Fuck that other guy.
    If we think of ourselves as lions hunting prey, sure, what I did doesn't make sense. But keep in mind that we are paying the girls and much of our bargaining power resides in our willingness to walk away. We are customers. If I had already paid, I would have insisted that we complete the deal. But I hadn't paid, nor had I entered the room, and she seemed more interested in dealing with the other guy, so I just walked away and found someone else who turned out to be better and cheaper (I was able to compare how well they performed because I came back and got her when she was not as busy). From the girl's perspective, if she frequently has more than one man interested in her at the same time, she should raise her prices. I try to avoid showing any particular girl that I see her a "must-have" and that I need to insist.

    Again, this was my first time in Santa Fe, so I knew I was not in a strong bargaining position. But I can talk with the girls in Spanish and I can walk away, and I think things went pretty well for me considering that it was my first time. After finding decent-looking girls quoting me 35 K - 40 K for 15 minutes, I found it easier to walk away from girls quoting me 50 K. But I'm sure there is room for improvement and I'm here to learn. I am intrigued by JohnnyWalker55's suggestion that I should be able to get a girl with a 30 minute room for 50 K, room included.

    Where is a good place to take a leak in Santa Fe? Do you do it in the bathroom attached to the room after the session? I try to leave as quickly as possible after the knock comes. Should I buy some food at one of the restaurants in the area and use their bathroom?

  3. #10171

    Negotiating in Santa Fe

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Make your deal for 10 minutes of Spanish lessons and 20 minutes of fucking.
    I get Spanish lessons for free with my language partners, but I wanted to suggest something to do in the remaining time if I climaxed early (which turns out not to be a problem). Also, I wanted to get some sense of what the girl was like by talking with her, and maybe the girl did me a favor by interrupting me and then walking off. If that's the way she is, I'd rather know before paying.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Again, be more assertive. Chick in Tijuana tried that shit with me. I said bich I can get dressed in the hall. I paid for this room to do some fucking in and I plan on using every minute of it for doing just that.

    Faulty logic on someone's part if that happened to be the case, because you supposedly paid the girl for 20 minutes of fucking and paid the room for 20 minutes, but you would really only be alloted 15 minutes of fucking the girl if quitting time was supposed to be at the knock. So shame on the person that accepts that BS.
    She explained that it was really for 15 minutes before I paid her, so that was the deal we negotiated and she held up her end of it. If I had paid her with the understanding that we were supposed to have sex for 20 minutes, and then we only had sex for 15 minutes, then, yeah, I shouldn't have accepted that (though, what kind of recourse would you have? But I went in with the understanding that we would have sex for 15 minutes and that's what I got.

    I suppose I could have tried to negotiate for 20 minutes of sex, but maybe she would have adjusted her price. The other girl I had sex with in Santa Fe gave me the same deal. If I had demanded 20 minutes after agreeing to 15, I would have been in the wrong. Is 35 mil for 20 full minutes of sex normal pricing in Santa Fe? What have you been able to negotiate in Santa Fe?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You were there first. Fuck that other guy.
    I think I should explain a little more. This was my first time in Santa Fe, so I was kind of unsure about how things worked (I had a general idea from reading this forum, but was unsure about the details) and wanted to bail at the first sign of trouble or lack of enthusiasm on the girl's part. I spent some time talking with her about the details. In particular, I wanted to clarify the early knock at the door thing that several people complained about in this forum. I wrote down what we agreed upon with a pen and then when I looked up she was talking to the driver of the car that pulling up. That's when I asked, "Es tu cliente?

    Also, I didn't have a very strong preference since there were other girls available with similar level of attractiveness. The other girl I went to turned out to be better in bed and slightly cheaper.

  4. #10170

    Is he your client?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trim1  [View Original Post]
    I went to Santa Fe around 3 PM. I found a cute girl walking with her friend. She wanted 50 K plus 10 K for the room for 20 minutes. It seemed a little high to me, but I decided to take it anyway. I was in the middle of requesting that if there were any time left over after cumming, that she help me practice my Spanish when she interrupted with "no, no hay nada" and then she and her friend walked off.

    So, I kept looking. I found a cute girl who quoted me 40 K, room included. I was about to seal the deal with her when someone else drove up and parked his car in her area. "Is he your client?" I asked in Spanish. She replied yes, so I said, OK, we can do it later.

    I found another cute girl who quoted me 35 K, room included. She explained to me that the knock is supposed to come after 15 minutes so you have 5 minutes to get dressed in the 20 minutes allotted. I set a 15 minute timer on my phone and placed it where both the girl and I could see it. She was very energetic in bed and I came close to the end of the 15 minutes.

    I spent some time exploring the area, then I went back to the girl who quoted me 40 K. I wasn't able to cum with her in the allotted time, but the girl put in a good effort.
    Not here to grill you but you got to her first, you don't have to give your place to someone else, unless you're not into her.

  5. #10169
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    It does not seem like you are shy, but it seems like you need to be more assertive. No lion is going to be feasting on prey then see a hyena off in the distance with his mouth watering and say well I will just let the hyena deal with this carcass and come back later. You were there first. Fuck that other guy.

    Make your deal for 10 minutes of Spanish lessons and 20 minutes of fucking. You don't have to add ifs. Chicks quickly forget about ifs. They remember what you told them has to be done.

    Again, be more assertive. Chick in Tijuana tried that shit with me. I said bich I can get dressed in the hall. I paid for this room to do some fucking in and I plan on using every minute of it for doing just that.

    Faulty logic on someone's part if that happened to be the case, because you supposedly paid the girl for 20 minutes of fucking and paid the room for 20 minutes, but you would really only be alloted 15 minutes of fucking the girl if quitting time was supposed to be at the knock. So shame on the person that accepts that BS.
    Onthe money mr. E, totally different culture with vennies / rolas as compared to american chicks. No need for the soft ball smooth talking flirting, they like the assertion and are generally a lot more submissive ime.

    Trim, tell the girl you want a 30 minute room, you should pay no more than 50 k room included, less if she isnt that hot.

    Get in there like an animal, the spanish will come the more sessions you do. They like being fucked and the small talk will be there after the sex, or just chat up girls on the street in between sessions.

    Theyre bored as hell standing there and they like conversation, you don't need to mix lessons and fucking my amigo.

  6. #10168

    Late Sat Night in Santa Fe

    Flight arrived at 11:00. A breeze through passport control. Then the struggle to find an ATM machine that worked and accepted my back card. The ones downstairs do not work (in fact the Servibanca one wound up charging my account 300 USD but not giving me any money. I didn't discover this until the next day when I check my account on line. Now I am battling with these A**holes to refund my money. But that's my history with ATM machines.) so I went upstairs and the second machine worked just fine. Took a taxi to my hotel, nearby. Ten minutes later I'm back in a taxi heading to Santa Fe. Getting out of the taxi, the first thing that hits you is the powerful smell of weed. It's everywhere. I was dropped at the corner of Atunes and went in. Naked girls everywhere. They were pushing their goodies into the faces of eager young men and having a great time. After a while, I decided to move on. Head to Paisas or someplace. But the doorman wouldn't let me leave. "Policia". I told him that I didn't care about cops, they wouldn't do anything to me. He said, No, but they would do something to us. Ok. That made sense. I stood there for about 20 minutes with the guy on a handheld radio to his compadre outside waiting for the "all clear". While waiting, a pretty girl with perfect English but dressed like she knew how to make you her slave came up to me and we chatted about the problem. She seemed to think this was an everyday thing. She said she was raised in the US and was trying to get back there. She must have an interesting story. No accent at all and total young girl America attitude. Anyway, the crowd at the door was growing. The guy finally lets us go. Outside was another guy telling us to hurry. Once outside I understood what was going on. The Covid curfew was now in effect. It must have been 1:00 or something. This is something I had not read before in the forum. The cops parked vans and used police tape to block off a two or three block square. A guy told me that they do this every night. I do not know if they were handing out fines or what. But cops were everywhere. Not really bothering anyone specifically. Just there. Telling people occasionally to move on, but not really trying. With no clubs open, I walked around trying to find Ms. Right. There were many out. I found myself slightly outside the "safe" zone of Santa Fe, trying to get away from the cops. One strange thing was that there were a number of clearly underage girls dressed to the nines, as if they were going to a party or something. At almost two o'clock in the morning, eating street food and giggling amongst themselves. They looked about ten years old. I could not understand what they were doing out. Except maybe they lived in the area and since it was Sat. Night decided to go out. Weird. With the cops swarming, I was getting tired of trying to dodge them, so I picked up a spinner I thought would take me to heaven. Made the JV move of not spelling out first what the terms of our contract would be. Should have known better, but it was getting on 2 AM and I had a flight the next day to MDE, so I crossed my fingers and took a chance. I wound up paying for this as the service was awful. Among the worst I have ever had. She kept saying, Come on. Ten minutes. Well, that is a mood buster if ever there was one. She refused to take off her shoes. Ever try to "do it" with that impediment? I paid too much and got very little in return. As is always the case, after leaving that disappointment back at the love shack, I walked by 2 or 3 who I would have much preferred to spend time with. So, to sum up the experience: I never felt in danger or anything while walking around Santa Fe at 1 or 2 in the morning. Note that the zone is shut down at 1:00 AM, but there are still SW lining the outside streets. Obviously, better to arrive in the evening, but fun can still be had late at night. Taxis are plentiful when its time to make your exit. Next report in the MDE section.

  7. #10167
    Quote Originally Posted by Trim1  [View Original Post]
    I went to Santa Fe around 3 PM. I found a cute girl walking with her friend. She wanted 50 K plus 10 K for the room for 20 minutes. It seemed a little high to me, but I decided to take it anyway. I was in the middle of requesting that if there were any time left over after cumming, that she help me practice my Spanish when she interrupted with "no, no hay nada" and then she and her friend walked off.

    So, I kept looking. I found a cute girl who quoted me 40 K, room included. I was about to seal the deal with her when someone else drove up and parked his car in her area. "Is he your client?" I asked in Spanish. She replied yes, so I said, OK, we can do it later.
    It does not seem like you are shy, but it seems like you need to be more assertive. No lion is going to be feasting on prey then see a hyena off in the distance with his mouth watering and say well I will just let the hyena deal with this carcass and come back later. You were there first. Fuck that other guy.

    Make your deal for 10 minutes of Spanish lessons and 20 minutes of fucking. You don't have to add ifs. Chicks quickly forget about ifs. They remember what you told them has to be done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trim1  [View Original Post]
    I found another cute girl who quoted me 35 K, room included. She explained to me that the knock is supposed to come after 15 minutes so you have 5 minutes to get dressed in the 20 minutes allotted. I set a 15 minute timer on my phone and placed it where both the girl and I could see it.
    Again, be more assertive. Chick in Tijuana tried that shit with me. I said bich I can get dressed in the hall. I paid for this room to do some fucking in and I plan on using every minute of it for doing just that.

    Faulty logic on someone's part if that happened to be the case, because you supposedly paid the girl for 20 minutes of fucking and paid the room for 20 minutes, but you would really only be alloted 15 minutes of fucking the girl if quitting time was supposed to be at the knock. So shame on the person that accepts that BS.

  8. #10166

    Santa Fe

    I went to Santa Fe around 3 PM. I found a cute girl walking with her friend. She wanted 50 K plus 10 K for the room for 20 minutes. It seemed a little high to me, but I decided to take it anyway. I was in the middle of requesting that if there were any time left over after cumming, that she help me practice my Spanish when she interrupted with "no, no hay nada" and then she and her friend walked off.

    So, I kept looking. I found a cute girl who quoted me 40 K, room included. I was about to seal the deal with her when someone else drove up and parked his car in her area. "Is he your client?" I asked in Spanish. She replied yes, so I said, OK, we can do it later.

    I found another cute girl who quoted me 35 K, room included. She explained to me that the knock is supposed to come after 15 minutes so you have 5 minutes to get dressed in the 20 minutes allotted. I set a 15 minute timer on my phone and placed it where both the girl and I could see it. She was very energetic in bed and I came close to the end of the 15 minutes.

    I spent some time exploring the area, then I went back to the girl who quoted me 40 K. I wasn't able to cum with her in the allotted time, but the girl put in a good effort.

  9. #10165

    Report from Girls 24/7 Chapinero

    Quote Originally Posted by StinkySquid  [View Original Post]
    From my blackmail issue I wanted to give a list of establishments ...

    4. Girls 24/7 - legit prices.

    +57 311 4474549.

    https://co.mundosexanuncio.com/conta...il-hora-990131

    Edificio Gonzales CL 61 #13-44 Chapinero, seems like legit address.

    Seems legit and I even messages with one of the chicas directly (under a different pseudonym but same address and same pics).
    This place is super convenient for me, I just walk 5 min and I'm there.

    Ideally you make a specific reservation with the girl you want. If not, you end up getting a sub-optimal selection of whoever is left over.

    You enter the hallway from the street, and end up at a locked glass door. The guy or a girl will notice your arrival and ask what you want, say you want chicas. Then they ask if you have a specific room number.

    It's quite an interesting setup. I thought it was some Hotel thing where you get your room for an hour and then you select the girl to come to your room, but no, you actually do it in the girl's living quarters, a little studio apartment with windowless bedroom small bathroom with shower and even a kitchen. So they actually live there 24 x7 and are available between 8 am and 4 am.

    When I came I didn't have a specific reservation despite having talked with them and one girl directly. They never told me to make an appointment. I had two I wanted to try, in fact, together. But the one was not very clear about her availability. So at first, when I arrived with no clear reservation, I waited about 5 min, while 2 or 3 other dudes went right past me going upstairs with reservation. Then an older over 30 year old a bit heavy woman came down and I went up with her, thinking I would be shown a room and then see the line-up. But she brought me straight to her room. So I said no, no I wanted to see some specific girls, OK I'll come back with a reservation. I went down again and told them this, and they said OK you want X and I said yes, alright just hang in there go up to 4th floor. So I did. There was some type of parade room where I shook hands with a few, all but one I would take a pass on. But since I had a specific pick, they told me to just sit down and wait a moment.

    I probably waited for less than 10 min. During that time I got to observe a little how this works. Most of the girls that were in that lineup room already left, except for one who kept standing before me. But I didn't want her. After a while she too took leave, politely even. Another one with lots of tattoos even on her neck, was all naked walking in and out from what looked some community kitchen through that lineup room and into the hallway and back, and she had a horribly loud voice. Ugh.

    So then came my pick and smiled and we shook hands and she led me to her room right next door. As usual not really clearly comparable with the pictures but recognizable and actually nice. We had some friendly conversation to break the ice. I said what I wanted, oral al natural in addition. OK. Now interesting was that she thought for a moment what she would charge me extra. Her hour is only 50 kCOP, pretty amazing. So she asked 20 extra. OK, so it was agreed. But I was super pleased to see that she did not even try gesturing let alone asking for the money upfront. A huge plus in my book.

    She was really nice, and we hit it off pleasantly. Kissing was decent. I could have taken more, but I didn't quite like her taste (and it is a little busy and somewhat seedy smelling place. Though the smell might also com from the cooking activity which takes place as they live there. I brought a chocolate bar just for this purpose though, so I offered her chocolate which she accepted. So we continued on. Conversing and touching and it was nice flowing. Then she started sucking me decently, and then I said, OK, let's do the condom thing and do some vaginal. And to my pleasant surprise she continued to be really connected the whole time I was in missionary over her, which actually has become my favorite position if I have some connection with the girl. She didn't turn her face away from me, so it was good. Quite intense actually. But then I went back to oral because I hate condoms. She worked me ok, sometimes wanted to stop, but I encouraged her on. And then when I almost came there was a misunderstanding where finishing orally was not clearly agreed. So I said, how much you want then? And usually I hate negotiating money during the act, but the cute thing was she didn't know what to even ask for it. So I said OK, so let's top off your 20 extra to make it 50, I said this is probably not the first time you are doing this. Alright, she agreed. So I held her firm to stop the interruptions and voila, the deed was done while she almost drowned, and before my last drop I let her get to the bathroom and empty it out.

    I slowly got dressed when she came back gave her the 100 kCOP reward, and we continued chatting a little. Had a bottle of water with me, which is good because they don't offer you anything there. I emptied out the liter before I came back to my place to be ready to flush my pipe, applied neomycin + bacitracin ointment on the little man including pushing some up the entry of the pipe, just for some preventative maintenance and stay clean for the next one.

    I would say this was a very good experience. It kind-a gives me a kick just how cheap it was and the attitude was top. I will be back at that place to try the other one I wanted, and then both of them together, etc. Really good value for money.

  10. #10164
    Quote Originally Posted by Prelude141  [View Original Post]
    Hi all,

    I'm in Bogota and my chica and I will fly to San Andres next week for a few days of relaxation. Do you know what are the covid requirements for flights within the Colombian territories? I'm vaccinated but she is not and if she would be able to fly without a test?
    I thought San Andreas may have kept up Covid testing but they have not. Vaccines are now asked about on migracion app, but they are not required.

    Your chica can get her first dose of the vaccine at the airport. If you go to the Bogota airport, the first place you come to is International flights for departures. If instead of advancing to the rest of the airport, you turn around, they are doing vaccine in a parking lot a few hundred yards away. It was about a 5 minute walk to there.

    I thought that they were only doing Pfizer and Astra Zeneca but they are doing Moderna as well, and that is what my gal got. She is 32 so I think the vaccine is now open to most adults. It would be a good time for her to get vaccinated.

  11. #10163
    Quote Originally Posted by Prelude141  [View Original Post]
    Hi all,

    I'm in Bogota and my chica and I will fly to San Andres next week for a few days of relaxation. Do you know what are the covid requirements for flights within the Colombian territories? I'm vaccinated but she is not and if she would be able to fly without a test?
    There is no testing requirement for entry into Colombia, or for domestic flights within Colombia.

  12. #10162

    Flights within Colombia

    Hi all,

    I'm in Bogota and my chica and I will fly to San Andres next week for a few days of relaxation. Do you know what are the covid requirements for flights within the Colombian territories? I'm vaccinated but she is not and if she would be able to fly without a test?

  13. #10161
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Took Indriver from the airport to downtown. Meet in the parking lot as usual with the ride shares. 20,000 pesos. I have not paid that low in years. I hope it continues to work out.
    Just when I thought it could not get any better, paid Indriver 16,500 from downtown to the airport. I have not seen these kind of prices since my first times in Colombia 16 years ago.
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  14. #10160

    Mr. E nailed it

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Can't really answer that question since if depends on a ton of things. How many flights came in right before or at the same time as yours? Where are you sitting in the plane? Are you able to walk fast through the hall and beat everyone else? Can you go to the handicap line? Well that was the arrival immigration. The departure immigration is usually pretty fast.
    The 2 biggest factors are what time of day you arrive, if it's a red eye, not many agents on duty so it will be slow and 2) how many planes landed in front of you. I was pissed one day because we waited for a gate for 10 or 15 minutes or so, in that time 2 big international flights landed and go to imagination right in front of us so we had like 400 people beat us to it. Add in the fact we docked into the last gate in the terminal and as Ed said it was a mile walk to Immigration. So way too many variables to give you an exact answer. I once planed on one of my Fav's to meet me at my hotel, but my flight was late, long lines at immigration, my phone was dead and I arrive 3 hours late for our meet time, ugh! Needless to say she was pissed, waited almost 2 hours in the lobby for me before she left, I paid her the Taxi fare she wasted but was not a happy camper. I never set up a meet at the hotel on arrival day anymore until I get there and call her. So it can be 25/30 minutes or 2 hours, just go with the flow.

  15. #10159

    Immigration, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic88  [View Original Post]
    Can someone who's been to Bogota recently let me know about how much time it's taking to go through immigration lately?
    I got out of the airport about 80 minutes after my flight arrived. I don't have a precise breakdown of how much time I spent getting off the plane, waiting in line at immigration, picking up my luggage, and going through customs.

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