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Who your with will dictate what you need to discuss
A vast amount of the girls I see never mention money But if your in SF or Pussyhouse or mezzanine for that mater, price will always be discussed. Most of my girls have a job, are professional. Psychologists, Dentists, actresses, models, nurses, Chefs, students in prestige universities. Bringing a few inexpensive gifts like VS lotion, some lingerie, a toy for her kid. This has been working for me for years. It puts the relation on a different level. Most of the time I get girl.
Friend sex, not pro sex for an hour. I was accused by one newbie on this site of lying because I get BBBJ because he could not make it happen. Some guys like the 40 min pay as you go service in places like SF or Vila Mimosa if that's your thing, go for it but the venues are very different and if you treat a educated, professional girl better and let her save face by not treating her like working girl BEFORE you get in bed the experience can be over the top. This type of mongering is not for everybody, this thread has been hijacked, for the most part by the SF crowd and that's ok some guys want quantity, some guys GF session. Most times I go out to dinner with my girl after playtime. Maybe not your thing, There is an ass for every seat. Happy Trails.
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Originally Posted by Trim1
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I'm planning to try to spend more money on my next visit to hopefully have better experiences, and, eventually, I would like to be more like Elvis2008 and focus on doing fun things like taking girls to Cancun. I realize that just a one-way flight from Bogota to Cancun costs more than 20 times my 27 K rato in Santa Fe
Take them to San Andres instead. You are not getting anything extra for taking them all the way to Cancun, except maybe a pat on the head and her telling you who's a good boy. You will be fucking on the same pussy no matter where it is.
If I am inviting a chick that is not a normal girlfriend to go somewhere, then it is for my benefit. It is somewhere that I do not know and want to check out and want company along the way. It is not somewhere that I have been a million times and the only benefit is hers for the experience that she may otherwise not have had.
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Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1
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Ah, okay, that makes a lot of sense now. Guys like Elvis and Steve (from the SA thread) seem to be the epitome of a sugar daddy and therefore can pull off the stuff that others can't. Girls think there is no need to discuss money with them because they are sure they will be taken care of. A girl that normally charges 300 mil cop for a date, thinks her payoff will be much higher when she comes across a guy who she thinks is very successful. It just makes no sense to put a price tag on a pussy, knowing that a hundred bucks for a rich gringo is peanuts.
I totally get that. The same way he is thinking he will get a better experience if he does not talk about money, she is thinking she will get more money if she does not talk about money.
When I negotiate I want to know where they are coming from first. Worst thing for me to do is offer $100 when they might have only asked for $50. Worst thing for one of those chicks to do is offer themselves for $50 when a guy they think will "take care of them" may he handing out $100 at the end. Both sides are playing the let's just see where this thing leads game.
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Originally Posted by Trim1
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Elvis2008 is a guy who takes 2 or 3 girls at time with him to Cancun, which suggests he is in a different league financially than the typical monger. I think if I were a girl, I would be interested in having someone like him as a boyfriend.
For my first visit to Bogota, I focused on the low end. I was curious as to just how cheaply sex could be had with a decently attractive girl. After some searching, I found a girl in Santa Fe who would do a rato for 27 K COP. However, the sex was rushed and impersonal.
I'm planning to try to spend more money on my next visit to hopefully have better experiences, and, eventually, I would like to be more like Elvis2008 and focus on doing fun things like taking girls to Cancun. I realize that just a one-way flight from Bogota to Cancun costs more than 20 times my 27 K rato in Santa Fe and one also has to consider the cost of the hotel, restaurants, ground transportation, the various tourist attractions in Cancun, and the return flight, but it sounds like it could be a wonderful experience.
Ah, okay, that makes a lot of sense now. Guys like Elvis and Steve (from the SA thread) seem to be the epitome of a sugar daddy and therefore can pull off the stuff that others can't. Girls think there is no need to discuss money with them because they are sure they will be taken care of. A girl that normally charges 300 mil cop for a date, thinks her payoff will be much higher when she comes across a guy who she thinks is very successful. It just makes no sense to put a price tag on a pussy, knowing that a hundred bucks for a rich gringo is peanuts.
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Elvis2008
Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1
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Elvis, if you can pull it off, congrats, good for you, but I'm sure your situation is different and you are not an average gringo coming down to Colombia for a few days. So suggesting not to discuss price / gifts upfront, or not offer to pay (in other words, treating them like they are not hos but regular women) won't get a monger laid, simply because the girls will not be interested in meeting, that's the reality.
Elvis2008 is a guy who takes 2 or 3 girls at time with him to Cancun, which suggests he is in a different league financially than the typical monger. I think if I were a girl, I would be interested in having someone like him as a boyfriend.
For my first visit to Bogota, I focused on the low end. I was curious as to just how cheaply sex could be had with a decently attractive girl. After some searching, I found a girl in Santa Fe who would do a rato for 27 K COP. However, the sex was rushed and impersonal.
I'm planning to try to spend more money on my next visit to hopefully have better experiences, and, eventually, I would like to be more like Elvis2008 and focus on doing fun things like taking girls to Cancun. I realize that just a one-way flight from Bogota to Cancun costs more than 20 times my 27 K rato in Santa Fe and one also has to consider the cost of the hotel, restaurants, ground transportation, the various tourist attractions in Cancun, and the return flight, but it sounds like it could be a wonderful experience.
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Originally Posted by Igor54
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I am happy for you. This sounds like, Tom Cruse is visiting Colombia. Do you give them your sighed cards?
No. Just spent a good deal of money that week, and it was completely worth it.
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Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Exactly CD, and I will say something else by the time you pay for flights, get Covid tested ETC other countries like Mexico are the same price and quality. What is good in the pro world about Colombia is not the hos. The hos in other Latin countries are much better. Paraguay, Brazil, even Argentina are all better than Colombia. What Colombia has going for it in the pro world is how cheap they are in a few places.
The real beauty of Colombia is the women like that teacher or the professionals you mentioned. When you have a Colombian woman who is into you, they cannot get enough of your dick, and they are so generous with all that they do. To me, that is what is special about Colombia. So I agree. Whatever site you use, SA, Tinder, Cupid, the goal should be to find one of these professional type women.
I like them young and fresh, ideally in the 18-23 yo range. Most of the girls of this age are unemployed, or have shitty low paying job, or study, and many live with their parents. Let's be realistic here, 95%+ SA girls in MDE and BOG of that age are hos, they expect to get paid, because nobody wants to fuck an old gringo fart for free. If they just want to get a good dick and not get paid, they have plenty of options among their Colombian peers. Hooking up with the above mentioned professionals is doable only if you are okay with dating older women, not the hottest ones, most likely divorced and with kids. You also need to be ready to invest some time in those women as many won't fuck you on the first date. Average gringo monger coming to Colombia is average or below average looking, usually out of shape, older dude who has limited time and budget. Dating a professional is not even feasible to them, and the language barrier makes it even worse. Unless you speak Spanish, look fit, are relatively young, spend a lot of time in Colombia and have some disposable cash, dating a hot freebies / non-pro who "can't get enough of your dick" is impossible. Again, I'm talking about an average monger. Elvis, if you can pull it off, congrats, good for you, but I'm sure your situation is different and you are not an average gringo coming down to Colombia for a few days. So suggesting not to discuss price / gifts upfront, or not offer to pay (in other words, treating them like they are not hos but regular women) won't get a monger laid, simply because the girls will not be interested in meeting, that's the reality.
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Originally Posted by ClownDays
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In my experience, women that are working (career) professionals, like lawyers, nurses, teachers, etc are the best SA / Dating Site hookups. They do this to get a taste of the TV / Movie / Instagram influencer lifestyle, because they can't do it on their own dime.
I met a School Teacher on Tinder the last time I went down there, and after the first night, all she really wanted was to go out to nice places to eat, take a bunch of selfies in at the Hotel I was staying, and show off how someone was pampering her.
I am happy for you. This sounds like, Tom Cruse is visiting Colombia. Do you give them your sighed cards?
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Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234
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It is good that those "street sweeties" aka ho's are there for you and on demand 24/7. (yes I've done them also when bored) When years go by will your memories be anywhere close to mine? Nada. And OMG prices on the streets are far different than a 5 star restaurants where you can get extremely good service. "you are what you eat" I know totally inappropriate. But sometimes this board is a bunch of bickering, waste of brain cells. Go have some fun! I do agree with Elvis that talking about our 5 star experiences here only brings up misconstrued replies. Stay away from champagne, beer is available everywhere. I have said this before Kinda) . There should be a separate ISG section for street tacos and 5 star food. Ok let's hear the replies.
Probably, that is your subjective opinion. I am 60 year old and saw maybe 1500 more likely 2000 girls in my life. Everything depends on your scale. You need to read something quality on psychology and neuroscience. But I am perfectly fine if you think that you have 5 star experience. In five star restaurants people don't look for fine foods. Food is just a food to make you full and provide energy. People look there to raise their self-esteem, when someone (waiter) lick your ass (in the hope to get nice tip) and inside they feel. But they need the money and this is their job. And some people buy it and feel like Donald Tramp because their everyday life sucks. If someone thinks that soccer mums, pure students, house wives, etc have a problem to find a dick in Colombia, probably they are wrong. Average Colombian 10 times more attractive / fit than average fat USA person (if you want accept that or not). In addition, if someone think that there are not rich people in Colombia to fuck quality girls, this could be a mistake. If you are capable, you can estimate any dating site. Don't buy fake numbers you see on the internet. This is nothing more than paid advertisement to bring new visitors / paid customers. If someone think that he is the supper man, I don't mind. I think their opinion is based on the porn they are watching.
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Street prices Vs experience
Originally Posted by Igor54
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You speak theoretically and real life could be different.
#1 if there are so many sugar babies, why the prices so high. It is economics the offer is much more= prices go down. I fucked a few women from the dating sites, they get dayly messages from more than 50 pussy seekers and to reply it is a full time job.
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It is good that those "street sweeties" aka ho's are there for you and on demand 24/7. (yes I've done them also when bored) When years go by will your memories be anywhere close to mine? Nada. And OMG prices on the streets are far different than a 5 star restaurants where you can get extremely good service. "you are what you eat" I know totally inappropriate. But sometimes this board is a bunch of bickering, waste of brain cells. Go have some fun! I do agree with Elvis that talking about our 5 star experiences here only brings up misconstrued replies. Stay away from champagne, beer is available everywhere. I have said this before Kinda) . There should be a separate ISG section for street tacos and 5 star food. Ok let's hear the replies.
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Originally Posted by Igor54
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If there are so many sugar babies, why the prices so high. It is economics the offer is much more= prices go down.
I pay girls prices. I give gifts to SBs. If you had game, you would know what I mean.
Originally Posted by Igor54
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For the police / locals / court / your local lawyer / etc a gringo rape is different comparing with the domestic rape. It is outstanding case and they will do their best. An average Colombian girl has no idea, most likely, how they handle rape cases.
If you really feel this way, you should have women sign consent forms when you were in Santa Fe, and we both know you did not. So why bring it up?
Originally Posted by Igor54
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If someone think that he is too smart, strong, cool, etc that could be a problem For you.
That is funny I thought the problem was more my lack of confidence early on than being overconfident, and I was there. I think that statement has more to do with your fear than my confidence.
Originally Posted by Igor54
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I can find and offer my two week travel budget to Bogota money to a student in Toronto. $3000+ and have a romance for one month. There are many non pro students who say yes for 3000 $ a month.
$3000 a month? Canada? Say what?
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Originally Posted by ClownDays
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In my experience, women that are working (career) professionals, like lawyers, nurses, teachers, etc are the best SA / Dating Site hookups. They do this to get a taste of the TV / Movie / Instagram influencer lifestyle, because they can't do it on their own dime.
I met a School Teacher on Tinder the last time I went down there, and after the first night, all she really wanted was to go out to nice places to eat, take a bunch of selfies in at the Hotel I was staying, and show off how someone was pampering her.
Exactly CD, and I will say something else by the time you pay for flights, get Covid tested ETC other countries like Mexico are the same price and quality. What is good in the pro world about Colombia is not the hos. The hos in other Latin countries are much better. Paraguay, Brazil, even Argentina are all better than Colombia. What Colombia has going for it in the pro world is how cheap they are in a few places.
The real beauty of Colombia is the women like that teacher or the professionals you mentioned. When you have a Colombian woman who is into you, they cannot get enough of your dick, and they are so generous with all that they do. To me, that is what is special about Colombia. So I agree. Whatever site you use, SA, Tinder, Cupid, the goal should be to find one of these professional type women.
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Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Doesn't every action have a goal? And you stayed at the San Francisco hotel in Santa Fe and pounded out Santa Fe hos. There is nothing wrong with that, but you have no idea of the type of women I have met. Unlike the Santa Fe hos, the women I want have jobs or are in school and would never dream of making a living on their back.
In my experience, women that are working (career) professionals, like lawyers, nurses, teachers, etc are the best SA / Dating Site hookups. They do this to get a taste of the TV / Movie / Instagram influencer lifestyle, because they can't do it on their own dime.
I met a School Teacher on Tinder the last time I went down there, and after the first night, all she really wanted was to go out to nice places to eat, take a bunch of selfies in at the Hotel I was staying, and show off how someone was pampering her.
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Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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Although you may feel invisible, they see everything. That is their job. I was just watching an episode of the cartoon Archer the other day. They checked in to a hotel in Japan and he was wondering how they knew so much about him and his uncle that had been there many times before. The receptionist told him that they see everything. So you are not the first to think you were not being seen when you actually were.
True, although I am very discrete and do not draw attention to myself. I just found it odd and it made me wonder how much hotel guests are being surveilled. I can't imagine they have software that maps faces to checked in status, although it would not surprise me in the least if some high end hotels in the world make use of software like this. They must be watching people really closely to know who is checked in and who is not. Makes me wonder about hidden cameras and where they are. One of the reasons I do apartments for longer stays and have a chat with the porter, if there is one.
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Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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I like that you brought 3 women back no problem at Ibis. I was wondering if they were still good with visitors. It is nice to know they are.
I do not know if you saw on the Medellin forum where Paulie and Mr. E were talking about wearing shorts. Paulie said you are a target if you wear shorts and Mr. E said that was dumb; they can tell you are a foreigner and know when you are a monger when you bring back loads of women to your hotel. I honestly thought Paulie's comment was off because I have people speak English to me before I have said anything. Even if you speak Spanish, there are different accents. Point is that most people know we are mongers.
I have hotels call me after a girl leaves and asks if everything is okay all the time. So I think hotels mark down when someone comes in and out even if they do not call you though. Then you see enough women if you work there and you would recognize their faces. How many hos are there realistically at Santa Fe? 200? When you see them come in and out all the time and stay an hour or so, you know. Also Colombians can pick out not just American and Venezuelans easily but lower class Colombians.
The 3 different women were 1 at a time and just before Covid hit. My last trip I was wifed up, so only 1 woman at a time and it was the same woman. Don't want to mislead you. I did see the post on the Medellin forum, but I did not bother with it. I'm a 6'1 250 pound white guy who does not tan. I stick out, so it is pretty obvious I am a tourist and therefore a target. There's no hiding me no matter what I wear, so I dress to be comfortable during the day and dress well for evening fun.
When I go into Sante Fe, I am as discrete as possible and take some precautions, like a money belt that I wear inside my jeans. Wallet and credit cards stay in the safe, along with any excess cash. I bring only what I need and if I get robbed, then can have what's in my pocket. I don't wear a watch or any other jewelry and I dress down. Hardly foolproof, but in 10+ years of visiting foreign countries, I've been pickpocketed once for 40 soles in Peru and was almost carjacked in Peru, but my taxi driver was a wizard and avoided the jackers without hitting any of them. He got a very good tip for his efforts.
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