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  1. #6811
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    Woodman, as you know I respect your opinion and recommendations, are both hotels chica friendly? Extra charge? Do the SF chicas on average have any issues going to any of these hotels for extended play time?

    Thanks in advance!

    The Tall Man.
    Hey Now,

    That SF suites charges $10,000 extra for a guest or $60,000 for double occupancy it is 1 block from the line up. Between 22st and 23st on 16.

    I think a lot of those girls would not have a problem. You can see that hotel from the line-up. I don't know about the Hotel Normandie but I have heard of guys staying there.

    There is a new hotel less than 100 feet from the line-up on KR 16 named Troya Suites, don't know what they charge there, but probably similar.

    Text me when you're here.

  2. #6810
    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    Santa Fe suites on KR 16 is $50 mill a night, that is a room with kitchen. A 70 YO guy I was showing around stayed there. He did not even speak Spanish.

    Some guys have stayed at Normandy too.
    Woodman, as you know I respect your opinion and recommendations, are both hotels chica friendly? Extra charge? Do the SF chicas on average have any issues going to any of these hotels for extended play time?

    Thanks in advance!

    The Tall Man.

  3. #6809

    40 kilo.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilGeorge  [View Original Post]
    Kangaroo Ted said, "dozens of super hot ladies lined up on the streets".

    Did not see any super hot ladies on the corners or in the streets of Santa Fe. Did see a couple of young ladies in the clubs, however, that were worth doing.

    A lot of fat, chunks, tattoos, skanky nasties, 10 pounds of girl in 5 pound spandex on the streets. Considered masturbation in my hotel room. Most were overweight. Too much McDonalds French Fries.
    I don't know if you know what a kilo is, but I counted more than twenty, hot 18 & 19 year olds, all about 40 kilos. I can weigh by sight and know 40 kilo when I see it because I've been picking them up and pressing them over my head in Thailand for 20 years for a laugh.

    On the south side of Santa Fe between 19 & 20 there were six chicks on a random wall, ALL of whom fit the above description. Woodman went with one of them at the time.

    Saturday night before last, every 3rd girl in the lineup on the corner near.

    The red club fitted that description, there was prolly forty or fifty stood there.

    There were others elsewhere.

    The fatties stand out the front of the hotels, the hotties stand on the streets IMH experience.

  4. #6808
    Quote Originally Posted by BKKguru  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for posting a detailed report which provides a new perspective.

    (1) Does Hotel San Francisco offer a safe / safety box *inside* the room? If no, how did you secure your Cash / Passport etc?

    (2) Is it possible to post the complete street address and / or phone number of "Mezzanine 14" massage? I spent 30 minutes on Google Maps and still was unable to locate.

    Thanks again,
    ~BKKguru
    Quote Originally Posted by BKKguru  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for posting a detailed report which provides a new perspective.

    (1) Does Hotel San Francisco offer a safe / safety box *inside* the room? If no, how did you secure your Cash / Passport etc?

    (2) Is it possible to post the complete street address and / or phone number of "Mezzanine 14" massage? I spent 30 minutes on Google Maps and still was unable to locate.

    Thanks again,
    ~BKKguru
    You can find Mezzanine location is in Router's Bogota list, also Woodman's post 6793 below.

    If you stay at Hotel San Francisco, you don't want the rooms on the street side because transmilenio station is right in front and the Windows are not sound proof.

  5. #6807
    Quote Originally Posted by NeilGeorge  [View Original Post]
    1. Hotel San Francisco de Assis- Great price of about $30 US a night, but bad neighborhood. You can walk about 8 blocks to Sante Fe red light district but is not safe. Taxi was 8,000 and 10,000 pesos to Santa Fe night clubs.
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    3. Had a great dream experience Saturday at "Mezzanine 14" massage on Street 104.
    Thanks for posting a detailed report which provides a new perspective.

    (1) Does Hotel San Francisco offer a safe / safety box *inside* the room? If no, how did you secure your Cash / Passport etc?

    (2) Is it possible to post the complete street address and / or phone number of "Mezzanine 14" massage? I spent 30 minutes on Google Maps and still was unable to locate.

    Thanks again,
    ~BKKguru

  6. #6806
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    My last visit to Bogota / Santa Fe I too stayed at Hotel San Francisco, good price and convenient location as it is a 7 or 8 block walk, and free breakfast and free parking for my car to boot!

    A big turn off for me are the "barkers" on the streets trying to get you into their club, very very very aggressive and annoying, I actually had 2 or 3 and even at times 4 surround me as I walked by and they followed me for half a block, after 2 or 3 days every night like this it got to the point hat I told them to fuck off as nothing else worked, they were all deff to my "no gracias", after literally a thousand times saying "no gracias" in a polite but firm manner I just tell them to fuck off. It is that bad, the worst I have experienced in all of Colombia.

    The Tall Man.
    You think that's bad try going to the southern clubs. It's really bad down there.

  7. #6805

    Santa Fe door girls.

    Kangaroo Ted said, "dozens of super hot ladies lined up on the streets".

    Did not see any super hot ladies on the corners or in the streets of Santa Fe. Did see a couple of young ladies in the clubs, however, that were worth doing.

    A lot of fat, chunks, tattoos, skanky nasties, 10 pounds of girl in 5 pound spandex on the streets. Considered masturbation in my hotel room. Most were overweight. Too much McDonalds French Fries.

  8. #6804

    Don't cancel.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyCrazy  [View Original Post]
    Iafter reading elsewhere about the street crime in Bogota, I was seriously considering canceling my trip.
    I wouldn't cancel anything based on looking for and finding negative articles. What street crime, I've never read about or seen any.

    No need to repeat the evening route. Mix it up and have a night out in Santa Fe with board member Woodman.

    I would doubt anyone with him has ever had any issues so that option is 100% safe and certainly a fantastic eye opener (with dozens of super hot ladies lined up on the streets and of course in the clubs).

  9. #6803
    Santa Fe suites on KR 16 is $50 mill a night, that is a room with kitchen. A 70 YO guy I was showing around stayed there. He did not even speak Spanish.

    Some guys have stayed at Normandy too.

    Quote Originally Posted by KangarooTed  [View Original Post]
    I'm staying up near Hotel Tequendama, so it's less than 10 minute walk to Santa Fe, no problems day or night.

    But I like going down to 22 for breakfast around 6 am and wandering around there for a couple of hours, and at other weird times and I would just prefer to be right there on the doorstep.

    I saw a 10/10 black girl yesterday morning and I'd rather be bang in the street so I can just chill looking around, drinking coffee etc and not have to bother walking 5 blocks.

  10. #6802
    Maybe bring a knife?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyCrazy  [View Original Post]
    I'm planning a week in Bogota. Here's my plan (after reading 2 years worth of posts and especially the insanely good Bogota FAQ from Oct 2018:

    Stay at Hotel B3 Virrey.

    First night, get an escort.

    Next day, go to massage parlors at Av. Carrera 15 #104-03.

    Later that night, go to Lalo's across the street from B3 Virrey. Bring a girl across the street for TLN.

    Repeat massage and Lalo's each day.

    After reading elsewhere about the street crime in Bogota, I was seriously considering canceling my trip and going to Lima or Buenos Aires (although it seems like BA is dead currently). I've been mongering throughout Europe, Southeast Asia, and in Panama City and Cartagena, and I've been in some pretty sketchy places, but the crime reports from Bogota make me cringe. My Spanish is extremely basic. Not remotely fluent. And I am not a big scary bouncer, just a little scrawny guy..

  11. #6801

    I'm pretty experienced, but I having qualms about Bogota.

    I'm planning a week in Bogota. Here's my plan (after reading 2 years worth of posts and especially the insanely good Bogota FAQ from Oct 2018:

    Stay at Hotel B3 Virrey.

    First night, get an escort.

    Next day, go to massage parlors at Av. Carrera 15 #104-03.

    Later that night, go to Lalo's across the street from B3 Virrey. Bring a girl across the street for TLN.

    Repeat massage and Lalo's each day.

    After reading elsewhere about the street crime in Bogota, I was seriously considering canceling my trip and going to Lima or Buenos Aires (although it seems like BA is dead currently). I've been mongering throughout Europe, Southeast Asia, and in Panama City and Cartagena, and I've been in some pretty sketchy places, but the crime reports from Bogota make me cringe. My Spanish is extremely basic. Not remotely fluent. And I am not a big scary bouncer, just a little scrawny guy.

    Does my plan sound "safe"? Should I cancel? Any other "safe" suggestions? Price is not the limiting factor for me. Safety is.

    For example, many people suggest Uber or taxi apps, but then say "don't ever let anyone see that you have a cell phone". Not sure how to make that work.

  12. #6800

    Hotel actually in Santa Fe hot zone?

    I'm staying up near Hotel Tequendama, so it's less than 10 minute walk to Santa Fe, no problems day or night.

    But I like going down to 22 for breakfast around 6 am and wandering around there for a couple of hours, and at other weird times and I would just prefer to be right there on the doorstep.

    I saw a 10/10 black girl yesterday morning and I'd rather be bang in the street so I can just chill looking around, drinking coffee etc and not have to bother walking 5 blocks.

    San Francisco it's to far away? Same with Ibis.

    Anyone ever stayed in a hotel, exactly around the blocks where the clubs are?

    How about the Normandy?

    Any other suggestions please I'm keen to stay exactly on those streets?

  13. #6799
    Quote Originally Posted by NeilGeorge  [View Original Post]
    Just got back into the land of the beached whales (US) from 2 days in Colombia. Recalling my dream:

    1. Hotel San Francisco de Assis- Great price of about $30 US a night, but bad neighborhood. You can walk about 8 blocks to Sante Fe red light district but is not safe. Taxi was 8,000 and 10,000 pesos to Santa Fe night clubs.

    2. Sante Fe nightclub district- Creepy even at day, if alone and a gringo. Do not walk around alone at night, take a cab to the door of the club and back again to the hotel. If you are Hispanic or with another person, it may be OK.

    Was planning on entering, but was grabbed by 2 of the 8 door men who tried to physically push me inside the door. Creepy. I did not like to be handled on my arm, so I went to the cab and left without going in.
    My last visit to Bogota / Santa Fe I too stayed at Hotel San Francisco, good price and convenient location as it is a 7 or 8 block walk, and free breakfast and free parking for my car to boot!

    A big turn off for me are the "barkers" on the streets trying to get you into their club, very very very aggressive and annoying, I actually had 2 or 3 and even at times 4 surround me as I walked by and they followed me for half a block, after 2 or 3 days every night like this it got to the point hat I told them to fuck off as nothing else worked, they were all deff to my "no gracias", after literally a thousand times saying "no gracias" in a polite but firm manner I just tell them to fuck off. It is that bad, the worst I have experienced in all of Colombia.

    The Tall Man.

  14. #6798

    Santa FE Comments Saturday of Semana Santa Week.

    Just got back into the land of the beached whales (US) from 2 days in Colombia. Recalling my dream:

    1. Hotel San Francisco de Assis- Great price of about $30 US a night, but bad neighborhood. You can walk about 8 blocks to Sante Fe red light district but is not safe. Taxi was 8,000 and 10,000 pesos to Santa Fe night clubs.

    2. Sante Fe nightclub district- Creepy even at day, if alone and a gringo. Do not walk around alone at night, take a cab to the door of the club and back again to the hotel. If you are Hispanic or with another person, it may be OK.

    Was at a corner restaurant on 23 d, about a block west of Caracas for lunch a 35 year old, muscular black guy standing outside the restaurant talking shit, trying to get my attention. When I left he followed me a block, I turned to get away and walked over to a police car for safety. Had 2 l bums try to talk to me for money. Had one guy in a group of 3 who called me a gringo.

    Reminds me of bad areas of NYC, graffiti on ALL walls and buildings, businesses. Dogs that shit on the sidewalk. Men who [CodeWord111] against buildings on public streets. The police who walk around do so in groups of 2's and 3's. Alot of homeless sleeping on the sidewalk, covered up with blankets. Dogs roaming freely looking for garbage from bags. People on bikes that cut in front of taxis. That is why they call it the Zone of Tolerance, basically the area without law and order. All clubs were closed Good Friday but opened Saturday evening.

    3. Had a great dream experience Saturday at "Mezzanine 14" massage on Street 104. Was told on the phone they offered "happy endings", but no sex, and the rate was 80,000 pesos for an hour. There are 4 small office-like suites in back on the second floor mezzanine of the building. They have a motion detector camera that tells when someone approaches, then all the 15 or 17 girls aggressively come out to greet you. One girl was angry upset the other girls were too aggressive coming out to me, and she started arguing with another. Half the girls (all over 21) said they were from Venezuela, half from Colombia. I eliminated the girls with a belly, too aggressive or just plain looking. Found a smiling, short, cute 21 year old from the rural area of Colombia that I selected for a massage, probably 8. 5 out of a 10. (There is no 10.) I stripped in the room, when she came in she stripped to her panties. We hugged and kissed and I put her butt on the massage table. Started playing, kissing her lips and neck and sucking her nipples and she pulled me closer. Rubbed her pussy and she removed her black panties. She played with my cock. She told me it as an extra 70,000 for oral without condom, 100,000 for bare-back sex without the condom. Gave in to her upsell. Put her back on the table and did her mish for awhile. Never did try another position. The rooms are small cubicles and the massage table is waste high, takes up most of the room. Then put her on the floor and told her to "mamar me pene". She did a great oral job. Then, when she vigorously stoked and pulled on my cock, I happily shot my 3 days load all over her clothes, on the side of the room. I know because I helped her put her top back on and tie it in the back, and the tie strings were soaked with cum. Got her number but probably will never call or see her again because I do not come to Bogo-ta much. Other than the fighting competition the girls had for my session, it was a great experience and I recommend this place over Sante Fe Night Clubs. Of course your mileage may vary.

    4. Visited Fiebre and Pasia Club Saturday evening between 7 and 8 pm after my wonderful Mezzanine 14 experience. Took taxi to the door of Fiebre, was frisked for weapons and entered. No cover charge. There was about 12 girls inside, probably half or less the number of girls on a regular weekend night because of Semana Santa. 7-9 of the girls were with hard silicone and big butts. Funny, but if the girls get silicone they often have or grow a huge butt. 1-2 girls were natural and doable, but one of them was already being grinded on by a Colombian. The other was standing around, bored, with smaller tits. Ordered a Coca-Cola and drank it for about 30 minutes. One girl was dancing on the runway all the time, not bad looking, but not great either. Maybe a 7 on a scale of 1 to 10. Would have like to have seen a few other girls dance.

    Went next door to Paisa club. Girls were slightly more attractive and I made eye contact with one. I might have done her if I had not been satisfied and drained from the girl at Mezzanine 14. Music was way too loud, the girls could not communicate with their prospective men. Left after 10 minutes and a urination.

    Went next door to "A tones" not sure if this club had been known as Atunes? Was planning on entering, but was grabbed by 2 of the 8 door men who tried to physically push me inside the door. Creepy. I did not like to be handled on my arm, so I went to the cab and left without going in.

  15. #6797
    Quote Originally Posted by Dcfan77  [View Original Post]
    Arrived late last night. MIA-BOG. Sped through immigration and customs. I like Bogot's airport. Modern and efficient. Book a room at the Hotel San Francisco de Asis. Approximate $83 for three nights including taxes On booking.com. Walking distance to Santa Fe And on the main Cra 10. Clean rooms with breakfast included. After freshening up I get a taxi using the app called Easy. A Cabify app. I think they have one for android too. Just search easy taxi. I tried using Uber but they were all 1520 minutes away. Cab fare from hotel to the southern clubs was 13 k. About a 20 minute drive Arrived at Avenida 1 de mayo. This is Ground Zero of all this south club. Club door staff continue to be pushy And try to get you to go into the clubs. I like going to all the clubs to find the right talent. Out of the 10 to 15 clubs there about five of them had real good talent. Again mostly Venezuelan is here but you do find some Colombian women. I found me a short light skin Venezuelan with dark hair. She kind a look like A paisa with her white skin and jet black hair. Just my luck she arrive today from buga. And was eager to sit down and have drinks We ordered a 1/2 bottle for 60 k. Man can she drink. We finish the bottle in lesson 45 minutes and straight to the room She charge 60 but waiting for the room a local told me that i should be paying only 40 here I'm like damn. Oh well lesson learned it only cost 40k down here. Into the room we go she quickly gets naked and I enjoy her pale white skin. I am a dark Hispanic so the contrast was excellent. She gave me a good covered blowjob in about three positions great provider knock on the door cleaned up I'm out. There are no bathrooms in these rooms so you have to bring wipes if you want to clean yourself up. It helps to take a little fanny pack. I think this place was called azafatas. I cross the street to Texas and Guadalajara. I wanted to go find a girl that I fell in love with last weekend and didn't save her number. If you keep walking south on the the same side there are another hand full of club. The one I was looking for takes you upstairs. The club is packed full of customers I walk around looking for my girl. I see her with another client. I'm like fuck now what. There were a few cute girls there but I didn't feel like staying.

    Walked north towards Texas and Guadalajara both clubs full of girls and clients. There's one club right next to the gas station that doesn't have a name Door guy opens the door and you walk up the stairs. This place seems to specialize in really young dark skin Venezuelans. Ordered a beer and did my rounds. I start talking to this 18-year-old But her attitude with stank so I left and kept walking. At this point it's almost 3 am and by law they have to close the doors. Almost all the clubs continue to stay open but yet they have to be discreet about clientele going in and out. Cops can raid and close the place down so they pay them off. You can still drink and it basically turns into an after hours club Setting. Sometimes you have to wait a little while to leave because there might be cops outside or nearby. I entered another club and ordered another bottle with this Columbian chick from Santander. She didn't have a great face but she had a great attitude and sexy body. We dance laugh and had a jolly time. Finish the bottle and off to the room Now that I know it cost 40 I gave the girl to 20's and she looks at me and was like OK. Perfect I saved 20 k. LOL. Great session her pussy get really wet And loved getting fucked missionary. She would pull me towards her and hugs me as I'm pounding that pussy. Loved it. A few positions later we wrap up cleanup and roll out. I walk outside and it's daytime. Goddamn I pulled all nighter Go dcfan! After that took a cab back charge me 15 K I knew it was too much but I didn't complain I just wanted to go to my bed and sleep. No I'm laying in bed just finished breakfast and then going to continue sleeping might walk to Santa Fe a little bit later. The reason I go to the southern clubs because I feel like they're not as hardened. They tend to be more friendly and provide better service. Spanish is a must And just be safe out on the streets. Last weekend when I went out with the two pink toes we got a lot of attention. This time since I was alone it was a little more chill. Happy mongering!
    "pink toes" LOLOLOL!!

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