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  1. #7456
    Quote Originally Posted by RyckII  [View Original Post]
    The reason for the widespread use of cash is that the banks charge too much for almost everything: ATM withdrawals, ATM balance check, credit card monthly fee, debit card monthly fee, etc etc some banks even charge a fee for the sole reason of having an account with them. This has led to people from lower incomes stopping usage of banks altogether.
    That's about 10 years out of date. But people still don't trust banks in Colombia.

  2. #7455
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    - I hear conflicting opinions on whether Bogota taxis are safe or not. People write, only use Call taxis, or pretend to send a picture to a friend once you get into a taxi. Many people say taxis are safe. I am more of the later opinion (taxis are safe, especially if taken from a good area), but I am still paranoid.

    - Are taxis taken from Santa Fe safe? I am assuming they are. Are there any real stories of taxis drivers from Santa Fe mugging their customers? But because I'm paranoid, I normally only take taxis that are parked, where the taxi drivers are known.

    - It seems many parked taxis will not use their meters, especially if they are parked on that main street. I've seen drunk locals get into and then immediately out of a parked taxi. The other night, the taxi driver requested 20 K for a max 14 K fare. It is cheaper than the Uber surge price, and definitely quicker.

    - Uber sucks if you need a pick-up from Santa Fe. Many times, the Uber driver will cancel once they get to the area. They believe it's dangerous. But why the fuck do they have to wait 8 minutes to cancel. They should know what Santa Fe is. Sometimes multiple Uber drivers in a row will cancel on you. Sometimes late at night, it can take a long time to get an Uber.

    - Uber surge pricing sucks. The normal taxi meter from Santa Fe to Zona Rosa will be between 11 - 14 K. Uber will be between 10600 - 38000 pesos.
    Best way to avoid this is to pin yourself somewhere on cll 24.

  3. #7454
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    - Overall, Columbia doesn't seem too bad scam-wise, for a "3rd" world country. It seems I get charged normal prices from food carts and restaurants without posted prices, unlike Vietnam.

    - Note, I look like a tourist. After I say anything, it's obvious I'm a tourist.

    - Taxi drivers waiting at the airport have attempted to scam me every time. I've only used it 3 times. Now I use Uber, even with the hassle of the airport pick-up. The meters in Bogota are translated via a chart to calculate the fare. The first time, the taxi driver pointed at the meter. He wanted me to pay few hundred thousand pesos, for a 30 K fare. The other 2 times, they attempted to add around 5 or 10 K pesos. They helped load and unload my luggage. Do locals tip the taxi drivers? I don't mind tipping. I was going to tip anyway. But I hate to be extorted for a tip.

    - Sometimes even away from the airport, taxi drivers attempted to get several thousand extra pesos from me. I don't believe locals tip, especially when they don't help with any bags. I normally will round up, but I hate it when they do that on their own.

    - Once in Candalaria, I got into a taxi that was just parked during rush hour. Lucky day I thought. But the meter started at 25. That probably was the old starting point. It is now at 28. My scam sensor went off. I was looking at the road / meter most of the way. I put my head down for a brief moment to look at my phone. The meter went from 60 to 90 during that time. So, be careful if any meter starts at 25.

    - Once I got a taxi to use the meter from Santa Fe. At the end of the ride, the meter was turned off and a LED display said something like the fare is X, which was several thousand pesos extra.

    - All the waiters in the Santa Fe strip clubs are ALL scammers, if you are a tourist. They added between 2 to 14 K pesos for my beer. California club was the worst. Even one bartender lied when I asked to verify. Do locals tip for a beer? I have never seen a local tip for a beer.

    - At Venus club, Club Columbia beer is 6 K. Poker is usually 1 K less. The Club Columbia beers on the other main strip clubs is either 7 or 8 K. If you guys paid 10 K for a local beer, you got ripped off. On my first night back this year, I said I would give a huge tip if any waiter gave me a beer at the correct price. None did. Now if any waiter overcharges me, I don't tip. But now, some waiters recognize me, and they don't overcharge me, forcing me to give my normal 2 K tip. LOL!

    - When you use your USA credit card, most local credit card processors will give an option to charge either US dollars or COP. If US dollar is selected, they will charge 3.5% extra. IMO, that's a scam.
    1) When you use a US credit card in ANY foreign country ALWAYS select USD. That's a worldwide scam they have going there.

    2) ALL taxi meters in Bogota start off at 25; that's standard. The move from 60 to 90 was due to a secret lever the guy had installed however.

    3) Ask the girls what the normal price for a drink should be. They are much more likely to tell the truth.

  4. #7453
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud  [View Original Post]
    In Santa Fe, many of the girls that say no to BBBJ will probably do it for a tip. 20 K COP is a good price. That might include CIM.

    Was Woodman with you? As a tourist, I have trouble getting 15 K for a lap dance. 6 minute full contact nude dance? Maybe Woodman's tour is worth it.




    I tried that a few times. They have difficulties understanding my Spanish. One time it worked. Other time, in the room, the girl wanted money upfront. As I was leaving, the girl made a scene. I don't like that situation.

    The problem with your idea is that the girl will want the payment upfront. Maybe if you fluently explain everything, she will agree.

    What I would do is to pay the standard fee. It is so cheap. Then offer a tip afterwards. Even then, some of the girls wanted the tip beforehand. Never found out if the girls would have done it; I never give tips before the deed.

    The covering is usually negotiable. At the Pussy House, I get 80 K COP (no room fee) for 30 minutes (with a 20 minute knock time). Some girl (s) will lie and say it's 1 hour. In the room, I asked for 1 hour, and then she said, are you crazy? There's also a 2 K fee that the girl has to pay, but some will try to make the customer pay.

    The waiter didn't try to charge you 10 or 12 K? All beers cost 7 K. All the prices are written on the tables. Just like Santa Fe, most / all waiters will scam the tourist. When the waiter tries to charge me 10 K, I give them 7 K. The waiters that know me will charge me 7 K, and then I will give 9 K.

    IMO, that's not even a debate.
    Guys, beers at PH are 6 k. They just went up from 5 k about 6 months ago.

  5. #7452

    My 4 day trip to Bogota (via Chapinero)

    Hi all,

    I'm a newb. At this mongering gig, so take my report with a grain of salt.

    Up front. Only bedded two women (both 19) in 4 days. Goes to show the degree of my mongering. Not accustomed to this. Hopefully next trip I will be.

    No need to chronicle my woman adventures as they were limited. My experience in Bogota, however, was not thanks to Kazeau. A big thanks Kazeu.

    The highlight of the trip was. By far. Hands down. S anta Fe. Oh, my,god. It's a freak show (a four block freak show) - this is coming from a newb. Mongerer mind you.

    Kazeau was kind enough to "hold my hand" as I treaded through the world of Mongering in Bogota. It was invaluable that he helped me. Else, I would have been so petrified (from the reports here) to venture out alone. There are so many people on the streets of Sante Fe (police too), that I didn't find any danger in walking around amongst the crowd. I did have an amazing wingman tho. And Kazeau turns out to be a damn celebrity there. Everyone knows him. The door guys, the sweet girls, everyone. So that's quite helpful getting around.

    Santa Fe. The place is off the ritcher. Just nuts. It's actually unbelievable. I couldn't believe my eyes actually. Must have been easy 200 girls in an around the 4 block area. Yes, most were 5's (street walkers) perhaps a 7 mixed in. But for $10 or a little more. Who's complaining. Most if not all under 25 easy.

    Troya is pretty much the place you want to be. It was the most happening club (loud as hell tho) - no cover (Thursday) - buy 1/2 a bottle (80,000 and everyone gets free cover or I think it's 7000), beer 7000 pesos ($2. 20), 20000 pesos lap dance ($8. 00) and 60000 20 minute sessions ($20.00) the girls in Troya were upwards of 8's (all very fit) - no 9's or 10's IMHO. But sexy as hell.

    I couldn't pull the trigger at Troya B/ CI was looking for the (bring back to my place) girl. That was going to cost me 230,000 and up. I was just a little to unsure of what was up (I'm a newb.) I need the GFE and wasn't under the impression that was going to happen (although another monger that was with us fell in love there).

    Not sure the smile has left my face writing this in Miami. It's just that unbelievable. The dominant pretty girls are venezuelans. And yep, all very young.

    I visited the infamous Mezzanine on the north end of town (Sante fe is on the south end of Bogota).

    This was also a Freak Show. Unbelievable again. (remember I'm a newb.) - as I walked up the stairs the doors started to open with beautiful girls peaking their collective heads out. It was out of this world I ended up with a 19 yr old col. Girl that was actually the maid at one of the rooms (she was mopping the floors when I entered). Sweet, natural, chilll (not into the pro looking girls). The only problem with the Mezzanine is that the rooms are the size of a SHOE BOX. A message table and that's about it. So it limited the enjoyment of the moment. But, whatever -. Due to the size of the rooms, I decided not to return. But the girls are plenty pretty - 80 k - 50 minutes. Got that pricing from ISG. She was OK with it.

    And the final escapade was all thanks to Kazeau again. Sunday night. The reports that Sunday is dead is correct. We started searching out casas in Chapinero at about 7 pm Sunday night.

    He had the treasure map of the Chapinero Çasas (here on ISG) and we started going door to door. I felt as thought I was in a suspense movie and we were searching for the holy grail. Knocking on doors that looked as though the building was abandoned. Soon after the knock, we'd hear "no hay servicio" I. E. ; no girls. We kept moving and kept knocking. Same response. Arrived at another empty looking building / house and after about 5 minutes, dude shows up and we ask if there are any chicas. Dude says he has two (this is Sunday night remember) - so we ventured in. K was basically showing me the ropes. I ended up with the sweetest 19 YR old Venezuelan. Total GFE. I could not believe my eyes, e ears, or all of my senses for that matter. 120 k 1 hour.

    Hooked up with another monger and went to Sante Fe later that night (I was done for the weekend. I unwisely climbed up Monserrat (500 meter climb) and was gassed (legs shot). But if you want adventure and like climbing up mountains in the form of very steep steps. Go do it. Takes about 45 minutes to climb up.

    Once again I was ear to ear smiles as we walked the streets of Sante Fe (on a Sunday) . Not as crowded as Saturday. But plenty busy. As we were walking around I spotted a familiar ISG face. Woodman- was super cool to see him in person. Super chill dude that knows everything that there is to know about Sante Fe.

    Buddy hooked up with a beautiful Colombian 30 maybe. Her stage dance was sick. That lap dance she gave the three of us (for 8. 00) was sick. My buddy did two sessions with her. I'm guessing that was also sick.

    All in all, it was an amazing experience. If you're a newb. - finding someone that knows the ropes is very helpful. (also probably difficult).

    I walked around at night. Prob. Not the best idea, but I had no problems. If you go to Sante Fe. Just cab in (to take the transmilenial. We did every night) and cab out (the transmilenial is closed). I'd not recommend getting the cab in front of the places. We walked out of the 4 block area, over the Transmilenial (the pretty good public transit system) and flagged down a taxi on Caracas Blvd (av 15 I think). Way less chance that the cabby is into bad shit.

    So that's it. It's really a freak show at Santa Fe. Super cool and very different. Next time going to shag girls at Troya and do the 20 minute deed. It's by far the most convenient.

    Go have fun. Even if you don't shag too many girls (like myself), it's an amazing experience that will not soon (or ever) be forgotten. Cheers.

    P.S.: had a splitting headache the first 2 days. The altitude sickness is a very real thing. Had a damn migraine (almost threw up. And I've never had a migraine. So I'd recommend taking a benadril or something BEFORE you get there. Two days of headache sucked.

    The question one asks oneself is - "Would you do it again" ans: Positively yes and likely soon.

    Cheers.

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  6. #7451
    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoSan4  [View Original Post]
    I was trying for a BBBJ though and probably about 3/4 ths of them would not do that. The prices were quite amazing though at 25 to 40 mil (8 to 13 dollars! I'd offer double that for BBBJ and besos. No sense in negotiating hard at these prices. LOL.
    In Santa Fe, many of the girls that say no to BBBJ will probably do it for a tip. 20 K COP is a good price. That might include CIM.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoSan4  [View Original Post]
    Got myself a 15 mil naked table dance. Wow! This was with an exceptionally good looking 33 year old vennie. Would have not guessed 33 but did look over 25. Very fine looking and this was a full contact nude dance! I was spent though and called it a night.
    Was Woodman with you? As a tourist, I have trouble getting 15 K for a lap dance. 6 minute full contact nude dance? Maybe Woodman's tour is worth it.


    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoSan4  [View Original Post]
    So lesson learned. If I ever go back to Santa Fe. I'll offer MORE than the standard rates but only if they accept payment after!
    I tried that a few times. They have difficulties understanding my Spanish. One time it worked. Other time, in the room, the girl wanted money upfront. As I was leaving, the girl made a scene. I don't like that situation.

    The problem with your idea is that the girl will want the payment upfront. Maybe if you fluently explain everything, she will agree.

    What I would do is to pay the standard fee. It is so cheap. Then offer a tip afterwards. Even then, some of the girls wanted the tip beforehand. Never found out if the girls would have done it; I never give tips before the deed.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoSan4  [View Original Post]
    Could have gone to an onsite room for 70-80 k for an hour but all covered so I passed.
    The covering is usually negotiable. At the Pussy House, I get 80 K COP (no room fee) for 30 minutes (with a 20 minute knock time). Some girl (s) will lie and say it's 1 hour. In the room, I asked for 1 hour, and then she said, are you crazy? There's also a 2 K fee that the girl has to pay, but some will try to make the customer pay.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoSan4  [View Original Post]
    Pussy House was a large American style strip bar. I liked it on the whole although with my non fluent Spanish the loud music made communication difficult. Beer was 8 k per bottle I recall.
    The waiter didn't try to charge you 10 or 12 K? All beers cost 7 K. All the prices are written on the tables. Just like Santa Fe, most / all waiters will scam the tourist. When the waiter tries to charge me 10 K, I give them 7 K. The waiters that know me will charge me 7 K, and then I will give 9 K.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoSan4  [View Original Post]
    I come down firmly on the side of Colombia being much better in quality not to mention price compared to Tijuana to add my two cents to that debate.
    IMO, that's not even a debate.

  7. #7450
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian1974  [View Original Post]
    I plan on being in Bogota in January. This will really help! Thanks. Will a guy in his 50's have much trouble picking up young ladies?
    Depends on the size of the ladies and whether or not you have back problems. It's probably better just to let them walk, especially if the room is upstairs.

  8. #7449

    Did she say it was okay?

    It is about time you made it to Colombia.

    I lost your email and your phone is not working.

    Call me or email me.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoSan4  [View Original Post]
    Is it OK to post a whatsapp number of a girl? Normally I wouldn't do that but since it's unlikely I'll ever see her again I'm willing to share.

  9. #7448

    Nice details!

    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoSan4  [View Original Post]
    Recently returned from a 10 day combined 7 day Bogota and 3 day Cali trip. (not including two days of travel time).

    To help plan the trip like to thank World Travel 69, for his great maps, and Tomjackin for his many contributions and great Cali trip report. Had the pleasure of meeting both of these guys in Quito seems like about 3-4 years ago. Also like to thank Woodman for his Santa Fe tour. More about that below. And Routard for his amazing and comprehensive report.

    Arrived at the Ibis Museo hotel in Bogota, (recommended on this board), very late Friday night. The Ibis I'd consider to be a mid range hotel and not a bad deal for $45 per night. It had a good buffet breakfast and I had lunch and dinner there a few times. And of course the big advantage is that it is within 15 minutes walking distance to the Santa Fe Red light district..
    I plan on being in Bogota in January. This will really help! Thanks. Will a guy in his 50's have much trouble picking up young ladies?

  10. #7447

    Tour Guide Contact Info

    Wondering if you'd be kind enough to share the contact details of both of your lovely tour guides? I also PM'd you earlier.

    Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234  [View Original Post]
    My first night here.

    Second day / night / Wednesday.

    Met my tour guide it's drizzling. She is young, smart, speaks 5 languages and good looking. Was an amazing 7 hours walking / talking / learning about Bogota. Botero Museum, Candelaria historical sites. I'm keeping her contact info. The evening was just as amazing. Met a blonde (10+ girl of my dreams) from SA. She came to the Bagata. 300,000 COP It would be difficult to find anyone like her in the USA unless you wanted to spend a few thousand dollars. I interviewed 50+ girls on SA. There are gems there, some speak English but it takes time. Most are above hooker quality, some are hookers.

  11. #7446
    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoSan4  [View Original Post]
    Is it OK to post a whatsapp number of a girl? Normally I wouldn't do that but since it's unlikely I'll ever see her again I'm willing to share.
    'Willingness' based on unlikeliness to repeat? How classy of you. See on the mileroticos ads where it shows how many times a girl has been contacted in a single day and that will tell you what kind of an idea it is to post her whatsapp number.

  12. #7445
    Quote Originally Posted by Cbmcpa  [View Original Post]
    Have a few hours left on my trip. It's 3 pm on Sunday in Chapinero. Any suggestions if you get this before Monday.
    Is it OK to post a whatsapp number of a girl? Normally I wouldn't do that but since it's unlikely I'll ever see her again I'm willing to share.

  13. #7444
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I beg to differ. I have been in relationships with women from various countries for the last 20 years and have not had any heartache or anything ending badly. Most I could even call tomorrow if I wanted to start again. And these are women that I have given ZERO money to. These are recent conversations with exes from Brazil, Peru, Venezuela, and Colombia.
    Thanks for the laugh. And, thanks for the pictures. The beauty of yo fine girls really comes thru.

  14. #7443

    Casa verde and it's Sunday

    Have a few hours left on my trip. It's 3 pm on Sunday in Chapinero. Any suggestions if you get this before Monday.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiegoSan4  [View Original Post]
    Recently returned from a 10 day combined 7 day Bogota and 3 day Cali trip. (not including two days of travel time).

    To help plan the trip like to thank World Travel 69, for his great maps, and Tomjackin for his many contributions and great Cali trip report. Had the pleasure of meeting both of these guys in Quito seems like about 3-4 years ago. Also like to thank Woodman for his Santa Fe tour. More about that below. And Routard for his amazing and comprehensive report.

    Arrived at the Ibis Museo hotel in Bogota, (recommended on this board), very late Friday night. The Ibis I'd consider to be a mid range hotel and not a bad deal for $45 per night. It had a good buffet breakfast and I had lunch and dinner there a few times. And of course the big advantage is that it is within 15 minutes walking distance to the Santa Fe Red light district.

    Saturday.

    Was feeling a bit wiped out Saturday morning but couldn't sleep so decided to check out the Chapinero area for daytime casas following the WT 69 map First tried to find Chicas Mellenio recommended by Routard but should have read more recent reports that showed it to have moved from it's calle 71 location. There was another casa right in the same area but I was not impressed by the selection of 4 to 5 girls. It was early though. 11 am so that could have had something to do with it..

  15. #7442

    7 Days Bogota and 3 in Cali

    Recently returned from a 10 day combined 7 day Bogota and 3 day Cali trip. (not including two days of travel time).

    To help plan the trip like to thank World Travel 69, for his great maps, and Tomjackin for his many contributions and great Cali trip report. Had the pleasure of meeting both of these guys in Quito seems like about 3-4 years ago. Also like to thank Woodman for his Santa Fe tour. More about that below. And Routard for his amazing and comprehensive report.

    Arrived at the Ibis Museo hotel in Bogota, (recommended on this board), very late Friday night. The Ibis I'd consider to be a mid range hotel and not a bad deal for $45 per night. It had a good buffet breakfast and I had lunch and dinner there a few times. And of course the big advantage is that it is within 15 minutes walking distance to the Santa Fe Red light district.

    Saturday.

    Was feeling a bit wiped out Saturday morning but couldn't sleep so decided to check out the Chapinero area for daytime casas following the WT 69 map First tried to find Chicas Mellenio recommended by Routard but should have read more recent reports that showed it to have moved from it's calle 71 location. There was another casa right in the same area but I was not impressed by the selection of 4 to 5 girls. It was early though. 11 am so that could have had something to do with it.

    Walking from Calle 71 to around calle 61 I found Bellezas and Figuras which had 4 to 5 girls available. I'd rate them Ok but not great and so I passed. Looked for Pussy House in the same area and found it but that was around 3 pm and it was basicly empty. Not sure if it was even open. All in all I was off to a slow start but it was partly my own fault as I was just getting my bearings and adapting to the somewhat confusing by USA Standards street address numbering. I think it's possible also as Woodman told me that the daytime casas are better Monday to Friday. I learned over time also that it could be easier and faster to walk than to take Uber or a taxi. Some uber drivers were pretty skilled in getting around congested traffic but most were not.

    Met Woodman at the Ibis seems like around 4 PM Saturday. We then walked to Santa Fe from there. About half of the 15 minute walk looks a bit sketchy but plenty of other pedestrians so I'm sure not dangerous at all until late at night if then. I did make the walk around 8 to 9 pm a couple of times and it seemed reasonably safe walking east on calle 24 past avenida Caracas and to carrera 7 and then north to the Ibis.

    Woodman started the tour around calle 19 or 20 and we cruised north checking out carreras 15 and 16 up to the main bar areas between calles 23 and 24. Some reports have advised to steer clear of anything south of 23 but I don't think that area is dangerous except perhaps very late. In general I found carrera 15, (the closest street parallel to avenida Caracas) to be the main street girl area all the way from calle 19 and 20 up to 24. There's some on carrera 16 also but mainly only from calle 22 or 23 up to 24.

    Woodman did a great job of showing me about. Thanks Woodman! Even though it was early around 5 to 6 pm there were quite a lot of street girls out and Woodman explained that it would get even better and it did. We stopped and talked to a few of them. I speak passable Spanish so that's extremely helpful. I was trying for a BBBJ though and probably about 3/4 ths of them would not do that. The prices were quite amazing though at 25 to 40 mil (8 to 13 dollars! I'd offer double that for BBBJ and besos. No sense in negotiating hard at these prices. LOL.

    Finally found one who met all of my requirements. She was quite good looking by my tastes Said 20 and looked it. Slim but curvy, light skinned morena Vennie. Seemed like a great attitude and pretty face and I fell in love. I don't recall the exact final price as she was upselling me in the room but I think it worked out to about 100 mil total for 30-40 minutes and that included CIM. Wow! 30 dollars for all that! Got her whatsapp number and left.

    Woodman graciously waited for me and then we hit the main bar area. Venus was good at the slightly lower end in girl quality and prices. Troya was a bit too loud for me although plenty of girls. My favorite was Atunes. Loud but not as loud as Troya and a high density of attractive girls. The tour was mostly over by then but once in the main bar area it felt safe to be on my own. The bars were fun and the women on average somewhat better and friendlier than the street girls. Got myself a 15 mil naked table dance. Wow! This was with an exceptionally good looking 33 year old vennie. Would have not guessed 33 but did look over 25. Very fine looking and this was a full contact nude dance! I was spent though and called it a night.

    Sunday.

    I tried to hook up again with the previous days street girl but she was not responding on whatsapp. She did eventually respond but by then it was too late. Ended up doing another even better looking SG. Super shapely 19 year old vennie who agreed to BBBJ. This girl was talented but it was a bit mechanical and passionless and she would not go for CIM either. Did get a nice picture of her backside though to remind me of her smoking body. Can't recall the overall price. 70 mil at most.

    Monday.

    I used this day mostly for tourist activity and then unexpectedly got caught up in having to do some work remotely. Went to Pussy house seems like around 7-8 PM. It was just heating up at that time. Had one girl aggressively attach herself to me but she wasn't particularly to my liking. Then met another one who I was quite enthralled with. Very well built and somewhat native looking which is not necessarily my type but this girl definitely had something Could have gone to an onsite room for 70-80 k for an hour but all covered so I passed. Got her whatsapp for possibilities at my hotel another day but when I contacted her the next day she claimed to have gone too the nearby town Tunja due to family issues. Not sure I would have pulled the trigger in any case if she insisted on everything covered but maybe. Pussy House was a large American style strip bar. I liked it on the whole although with my non fluent Spanish the loud music made communication difficult. Beer was 8 k per bottle I recall.

    Tuesday.

    Met up with the first day Vennie again on Tuesday evening. Unfortunately she had turned in to a bit of a shark and I let my guard down. I paid 150 mil this time up front for one hour of what I thought would be a repeat of the first time. It wasn't! Everything was an upsell in the room. Even Besos which I though was a given based on the prior experience. Pictures? Extra! Somehow I talked her in to a BBBJ CIM again same as first time (which I thought was already the deal) by hinting dishonestly at repeat business. The whole thing was over in about 25 minutes even though I paid for the hour. Fine by me since she seemed like a different girl than the first time.

    After that she bugged me incessantly via whatsapp to come back for another round. But then the shoe was on the other foot. Was mostly just a fun exercise to see what she would agree to. Pay afterwards? Sure! BBBJ? CIM?. BESOS? YES definitely all included! Never even got around to the price but I'm sure that would easily go lower too. So lesson learned. If I ever go back to Santa Fe. I'll offer MORE than the standard rates but only if they accept payment after!

    Wednesday.

    I checked out the Mezannine and Abudubai. Both in the afternoon. Mezannine was pretty much as described in other reports. Above average girls but not spectacular. Drawback for me though was everything covered. I checked out Abudubai next. Out of 7 or 8 available at least 3 or 4 were top notch. I still did not partake though as I brought only 140 mil in cash and the price was 180! I was thinking this would just be a scouting trip for a future day but half changed my mind once I saw what was available! I left Abudubai and a block or 2 away a lady struck up a conversation with me asking me what I was looking for.

    She then led me to Sensity which was close by in walking distance and said that Sensity was affiliated with Abudubai or same ownership or something like that. Told her about my lack of funds and she said something could be worked out. Believe it or not Sensity actually had even MORE top notch girls then abudubai. Picked a girl I'd rate as a solid 8 and with a very sweet personality too. She was Colombian and looked mostly caucasian and about 22 but deflected the question about her age so could have been older. BBBJ was included but not CIM. Only regret was not bringing enough pesos for an hour. I did get her whatsapp though and she was agreeable to go to my hotel after 7 PM for 230 mil for an hour on another day. That was tempting.

    Thursday Cali.

    Took a quick 40 minute plane ride to Cali and was there by 1 PM. Round trip from Bogota cost only $86 on Avianca. Stayed at the Ibis Granada. This was noticeably better than the Ibis Museo in Bogota and for only $30 per night and it's also in a fairly nice area within walking distance of many bars and restaurants.

    That afternoon and in to the night I started checking out many of the spots recommended by Tomjackin. Doctor Amor, Caras Lindas, Eventos Liz and Flores Frescas among others. Didn't have the energy to partake so this was basicly just a scouting mission Eventos Liz seemed a bit rough around the edges but I liked it and it had a couple of doable chicas in the later afternoon when I was there. Got to Flores Frescas around 8 PM but that was somewhat too early. Or maybe not because I was the only customer for a half hour with 5 or 6 available chicas. They were mostly decent but not good enough for me to pull the trigger which I wasn't planning on anyway.

    Dr. Amor showed me a line up of about 7 or 8 fairly decent looking ones. My only minor complaint about Dr Amor is that it may have become too popular. More customers in the waiting area than available girls. I know that it's not your girl, "It's your turn", but it makes it easier to put that out of my mind without so many other guys around LOL.

    I found Caras Lindas girls to be the same quality or almost as good as Dr. Amor but in a less factory like setting and for a lower price. Although with less to choose from also. At least when I was there in late afternoon.

    Friday Cali.

    I scouted out casas in the morning and based on the enticing pictures in a mileroticos ad, I took an uber to Masajes Erotico del Norte. On calle 48. I recall I got there by 11 am. Was the only customer and they showed me a lineup of 12 introducing themselves one at a time! Wow! At least half I would be happy with. Hard to choose but I chose the last one presented. A curvy 23 year old mulatta with a perfectly shaped butt and a fantastic attitude. Seemed thrilled to be with me. Regular pricing was 70 mil for an hour. An extra 30-40 mil for BBBJ CIM. Got some wonderful pictures even including face pics. Had a great rapport with her in the room even with my less than fluent spanish. Got her whatsapp and left quite happy.

    Saturday Cali.

    Decided to give Dr. Amor another try 1 PM in the afternoon. Less than 5 girls to choose from and seemed like at least 7 or 8 guys in the waiting room. I chose a fairly attractive one but the session was kind of ho hum. BBBJ for an extra 50 k but no CIM, no besos and no pictures. Maybe my fault because I forgot to negotiate all that up front. Great looking girl but a kind of ho hum session. Couple of hours later I was feeling bored and decided to whatsapp the Calle 48 girl just for company over dinner. She arrived at my hotel around 7:30.

    We hit a couple of bars that were within walking distance. It was quite a strain for my spanish to keep up with her rapid fire delivery but she had no trouble understanding me at least. It felt very much more like being on a hot date than being with a hooker. She claimed that she had gotten no customers all day without me asking about it and seemed quite genuinely taken with my "ojitos lindos" Beautiful eyes. Always love it when they flatter my blue eyes.

    Had a very fun 2-3 hours bar hopping before heading back to the hotel. She was coy about it but basicly invited herself to stay at my hotel over night even though I had to leave the next morning at 8 am back to Bogota. We had already agreed to 200 mil for an indeterminate amount of time and she was polite enough to at least not ask for more money for the over night.

    Unfortunately I did not have a lot left over after the earlier Dr. Amor trip in the room. She tried everything imaginable by way of GFE for a couple of hours and I had the most fun I've ever had with a girl without having an orgasm. (although I came close). Then fell asleep by around midnight with her wrapping her naked self around me. Nice. Next morning I gave her 250 mil which she seemed happy with plus taxi money. I'm still exchanging passionate text messages and pictures with her a few days later back home! Damn!

    Sunday (2nd one).

    Took an early flight out and back to Bogota and the Ibis Museo. Just a day of relaxation.

    Monday (2nd one).

    Decided to give the chapinero day casas another try Monday morning. I was much better prepared this time. Took an uber to La Bonita Spa on Calle 67 but at 10 am was too early and only a couple of available chicas. My memory is a bit hazy but I think I looked but could not find Sirenitas which was supposed to be across the street. Then walked a couple of blocks down to Palmeras Real. Only a couple of chicas available there also but one was very tempting. Checked out the other couple of casas in the same area and decided to kill an hour having lunch and come back at 12. Good decision.

    After 12 I visited Gaticas on Caracas near 64. Was a pretty mediocre selection of about 5 and I left. Then visited Rosaquillas and another casa close by which had only a small number available. Then I walked back up to the Palmeras Real area and went in to Casa Verde. And that's where I struck gold. I was the only customer and 12 chicas came out in a very crowded line up all at the same time! A bit overwhelming and intoxicating. I picked one and she sat down with me. But on closer inspection I could see that it was not the best pick.

    Luckily alot of the other 12 had also sat down near by and I made the switch to a different one. She quoted 70 mil for the hour and 40 mil for 30 minutes plus 10 mil for the room. I asked her how much more for BBBJ and besos. Only 15 mil! Got to the upstairs room and she added 10 mil for pictures. This girl was delightful. Maybe 5 foot 2, morena, Venezuelan, beautiful face. Said she was 22 but I would have guessed 19. Slim figure but still some curves and chest. Also had a very agreeable and pleasant attitude. Slight baby damage but hardly noticable. Pictures including face and body pictures together no problem at all. I was in love. 25 mil more for CIM. Her BBBJ technique was exquisite. The best of the trip. And the regular sex was exceptional too. Very hard not to end it that way.

    Ended up finishing up just under the 30 minutes. Would have gladly extended that if need be. She then suggested that I take down her number for a possible all nighter and asked what hotel I was in. How much? 200 mil! OMG! That's like $60 USA! For a girl of that quality I would have seriously considered $200. Would have been 3-400 in Tijuana. Dang! Really should have met her on the first day instead of the last.

    Next day Tuesday I took an early flight out to get back home. Very fun trip and I come down firmly on the side of Colombia being much better in quality not to mention price compared to Tijuana to add my two cents to that debate. Not saying Tijuana's not fine. It is. But Bogota is much better and Cali is better yet than Bogota. In my humble opinion!

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