Bogota Reports

[Mr Enternational]

That's it. Uber and other rideshare apps are not illegal in Colombia.

Now go out and ride your Ubers, Didi's, Indriver to your hearts content while down in Colombia and stop fretting that you're going to get arrested.

Who talks about getting arrested? So you are saying the drivers are not going to get a fine or their car impounded even though I personally know people this has happened to?

[Mr Enternational]

Arent you the monger that just posted in this thread there are 900 putas in HK at one time.

I've been in there a million times and can say your numbers are outrageous.

I have been in HK 1 million times too, but when I saw those numbers I immediately thought well it must be (a lot of) something I am missing, because I have never seen that many chicks there. I think I took this picture on the Illustrious Tomjackin's birthday. This is my female coworker sucking on titties right before me and her went outside and got a 200 peso SW for a threesome.

you have about 15 chicas. Miami room would always have around 25 chicas. 2nd floor north end would have 80 chicas sitting at the tables. South end would have around 50. The mini stairs on the first floor would be flanked on both sides by around 20 chicas. The area around the main stage would have 100 chicas. Alley stage another 80 chicas. Count all the chicas that you can't see, probably at least 75 in the locker rooms changing outfits and fixing their makeup. 30-40 in the bathrooms at at any given time. Probably at least 50 getting fucked in Cascadas. The deadest weekend night would have minimum 400 chicas.

And you saw this right before the fire marshall shut the place down for having 10 times as many people that would fit in the building? Is it legal to take photos in HK? It must be since the waiter is posing in this one that I took.

[DaVinci40]

For some reason, this theory seems to persist and feel that the air needs to be cleared so that we can all move on from Uber and rideshares being illegal. They are not. Let me summarize for us all:

1) Taxi companies in Colombia (like the rest of the world) require their drivers to pay a fee for a medallion. The fees go to local / city / state tax revenues. Every country has their own term for this medallion. In Colombia it's called a "Cupo". And just like basically every country, they had not yet modernized their taxi service and it struggled with the advent of rideshares where anyone could become a "taxi driver" without having to pay your local government the "cupo" fees. As an example, a Cupo in Colombia along with the special drivers license required costs $25-50 k USD. Yes, that is correct. $25 to 50 thousand US dollars. It is often more expensive than the car itself and is a huge source of revenue for the government.

2) Rather than modernize their service or reduce the need for a Cupo, Colombia instead chose to sue Uber specifically as it was the largest rideshare company at the time it entered the Colombian market.

3) Uber lost the court case and in December, 2019 the Superintendent of Industry and Commerce, came out and said Uber is now illegal. This is the point that many of these discussions have hovered around. A member of government on December 19th, 2019 said it was illegal.

4) 10 days later, Uber disputed the findings of the court case and initiated legal actions against the Colombian government to protect foreign investments under the free trade agreement between Colombia and the USA (Uber is a Delaware, USA based company).

5) Approximately 1 month later, while the courts had yet to review the case, Uber left Colombia in February 2020. Reports popped up that Transport police were giving rideshare drivers a hard time at the airports and in an attempt to get around it would require someone sit in the front. At the same time Uber dropped their protective status case because. (read number 6).

6) Once Uber had left, they initiated a different agreement to the Uber app and effectively bypassed the ruling given by the court. Uber in Colombia gets around the ruling by now calling itself a "Car and Driver Rental Service". Now, when getting an Uber from your app you are specifically renting a car and driver and that subtle change means you can use Uber as well as the other rideshare apps as they also changed their terms of service. This is how Uber (and the other apps we call rideshares but in Colombia are now called car and driver rentals) are allowed to operate. It is also my understanding.

7) That's it. Uber and other rideshare apps are not illegal in Colombia.

Now go out and ride your Ubers, Didi's, Indriver to your hearts content while down in Colombia and stop fretting that you're going to get arrested.

[Mr Enternational]

In my mind if there are 8 or 9 mfs gathered to eat, then as the foreigner I should be the guest of honor, not the mf that is feeding everybody. It is easier for 8 folks to chip in to feed 1 person than 1 person to pay for 9 people. How does that even happen? If you were a local boyfriend do you think that shit would happen?

To me traveling in foreign lands is about soaking up the local hospitality,

Down in Peru today and one of my chicks hit me up this morning saying to come to the house at 2 pm for lunch. I get here and there are ribs on the grill. There are 8 people here (including me) and my plate is made first AND I am seated at the head of the table. There are no shoeless grandmothers and no deformed adult teenagers to be seen. I did not need to bring any gifts and all the money that I came with is still in my pocket! (I did take it out of my pocket for 1 second for picture taking purposes though.).

[Mr Enternational]

And the second $770 k dinner, there was no possible way I, or any other monger, could have predicted 7/8 guests would order two entrees. It came as a shock to me, listening to them place their orders. And not everyone said "thank you. " I'm still trying to figure out how you order two entrees at a restaurant knowing someone is going to foot the bill.

My guess is because they knew a sucker when they saw one. My motto is if it is for free then it is for me. And I guess they live by the same code.

[Mr Enternational]

I knew I would take some heat, mostly from a couple of mongers I've humiliated here in the past, who insist that rideshares operate secretly and illegally in Colombia, and the government has no idea rideshares are being given.

Cases in point: Prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas. But since there are hookers everywhere and even flyers and magazines offering their services, I guess you suppose it must be legal.

Where I am from it is absolutely illegal to have marijuana, but the district attorney has given police instructions to look the other way when someone has weed because they will not prosecute if someone has less than a certain amount, so everywhere you go you can smell illegal marijuana on people. Hard to imagine for you I know.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I appreciate the insightful feedback. Yeah, I know things didn't go smoothly for me. But I wrote my story, to the entertainment and benefit of mongers to provide a little insight on one monger's foray into the Bogota semi-pro world. I knew I would take some heat, mostly from a couple of mongers I've humiliated here in the past, who insist that rideshares operate secretly and illegally in Colombia, and the government has no idea rideshares are being given. These couple mongers are hell bent on revenge, and nitpick everything I say. They're so desperate to prove me wrong, just once, but fail every time. Jbee is a classic example. I don't even bother to read whatever drivel he spouts. But it's funny because he feverishly absorbs every word I write and responds to almost every one of my posts. Just obsessed, it's quite pathetic. I'm glad there are intelligent posters here such as LatinaLover and Zeos that can provide feedback and constructive criticism without the attacks. It's unfortunate that there's posters like Marquis here, who attack another poster just for writing a report. These needless attacks make enemies for no reason. And reveal his level of intelligence and maturity.

So right now, I'd like to provide a little more in-depth look at my thought process throughout this ordeal.

MrE stated that he tosses to the curb any chica who hints of wanting money that he feels is undeserved. He mentioned a chica who he ditched merely for mentioning that her 20 year old son needed school supplies. Well, that chica would have to be around 40-45 years old. Let me say this: it is a hell of a lot easier ditching a grown 40 year old woman than it is an 18 year old. Many of you guys read her age as just a number and didn't consider her less-than-mature state of mind. Put yourselves into my situation. Your tolerance would be higher than normal as well because you're dealing with an 18 year old. And even higher because she is afflicted with a lifelong impairment that seriously compromises the quality of her life.

Also consider that I already had a lot invested. Sunk costs you could say. Travel expenses, gifts, etc. At the time, my goal was unlimited GFE sex for the next 7 days. If I had just ditched her earlier than I did, then I would be forfeiting my ultimate goal prematurely. My tolerance for BS was higher because I already had significant sunk costs and the payout, if achieved, would be significant.

Another thing, since I am just starting out in Bogota, I had no backup plan or alternatives. My game is the long game of free unlimited GFE. These relationships take some time to cultivate. Due to time constraints, I knew I wouldn't have time to find and cultivate a new relationship. Another factor which raised my tolerance.

So I spent around $330 usd in two days. If the result would have been unlimited GFE sex for the next 7 days, that would be well worth it. Some of you guys pay up to $100 usd / HR, or $200-$300 for TLN. Which makes $330 usd for TLS (toda la semana) a bargain. So I rolled the dice and stuck around for a while. Well worth the risk. Had she not been on the rag, I would have been rewarded with at least a partial payout. Well worth it, especially if you put a premium on 18 year old ass.

And the second $770 k dinner, there was no possible way I, or any other monger, could have predicted 7/8 guests would order two entrees. It came as a shock to me, listening to them place their orders. And not everyone said "thank you. " I'm still trying to figure out how you order two entrees at a restaurant knowing someone is going to foot the bill. When I go out to eat knowing someone else is paying the check, I order one moderately priced entree and limit myself to one drink. Maybe a shared appetizer and no dessert. But that's just me. I supposed I could have pulled a MrE and excused myself to the bathroom and slipped into a taxi but I had some possessions back at her apt and it would be rather awkward going back to retrieve them.

Provide feedback and constructive criticism without the attacks. It's unfortunate that there's posters like Marquis here, who attack another poster just for writing a report. These needless attacks make enemies for no reason. And reveal his level of intelligence and maturity.

OK whereTF did I attack you? But you want to quickly use the word enemy LOL and then you want to impugn my intelligence and maturity LOL.

We don't know your age but I think this post reveals a lot about you.

"And reveal his level of intelligence and maturity?

Me thinks you project too much.

Arent you the monger that just posted in this thread there are 900 putas in HK at one time.

I've been in there a million times and can say your numbers are outrageous.

In addiction to exposing issues with your maturity and intelligence I question your sanity as well.

BTW bro what's with the obsession with that age 18?

[Mr Enternational]

I knew I would take some heat, mostly from a couple of mongers I've humiliated here in the past, who insist that rideshares operate secretly and illegally in Colombia, and the government has no idea rideshares are being given. These couple mongers are hell bent on revenge, and nitpick everything I say. They're so desperate to prove me wrong, just once, but fail every time.

You have not proven that ride sharing is legal. You have only said because you think and feel it can not be illegal that it is legal. You are in the minority, so how about proving yourself right.

Nobody ever said the government did not know about it. Please quote where you saw someone write that. In third world countries there are things that are illegal that are tolerated and there are gray areas. They will not bust you for something today then bust you for that same thing tomorrow. That is what you are failing to understand.

In Thailand the law says that you must wear a helmet when riding a motorbike. 800 people can ride by the police with no helmet on, then when number 801 rides by without a helmet they pull them over and give them a ticket. Just because tons of people are seen doing it with no penalty does not make it legal.

[Mr Enternational]

You have nothing to apologize for with the restaurants. Colombian restaurants have three condiments: ketchup, mustard, and Pepto Bismol.

LOL. Then they only want to give you a microamount of those. I have to say mucho mucho mucho salsa de BBQ and it is still less than a normal amount. It is impossible to find black pepper at a restaurant. Whenever I ask for it they do not know what the hell I am talking about. I have learned to bring my own condiments when I am traveling.

[ClamSlammer]

It takes a lot of courage to share the fails and do not take all the feedback as it being against you. I know that I had my fair share of being conned in the past and being taken for a ride as well. I can only say that Pride is the biggest reason why this would fall on anyone even with years of experiences. Nowadays I can see the patterns and I would usually put a stop to it before it starts.

I appreciate the insightful feedback. Yeah, I know things didn't go smoothly for me. But I wrote my story, to the entertainment and benefit of mongers to provide a little insight on one monger's foray into the Bogota semi-pro world. I knew I would take some heat, mostly from a couple of mongers I've humiliated here in the past, who insist that rideshares operate secretly and illegally in Colombia, and the government has no idea rideshares are being given. These couple mongers are hell bent on revenge, and nitpick everything I say. They're so desperate to prove me wrong, just once, but fail every time. Jbee is a classic example. I don't even bother to read whatever drivel he spouts. But it's funny because he feverishly absorbs every word I write and responds to almost every one of my posts. Just obsessed, it's quite pathetic. I'm glad there are intelligent posters here such as LatinaLover and Zeos that can provide feedback and constructive criticism without the attacks. It's unfortunate that there's posters like Marquis here, who attack another poster just for writing a report. These needless attacks make enemies for no reason. And reveal his level of intelligence and maturity.

So right now, I'd like to provide a little more in-depth look at my thought process throughout this ordeal.

MrE stated that he tosses to the curb any chica who hints of wanting money that he feels is undeserved. He mentioned a chica who he ditched merely for mentioning that her 20 year old son needed school supplies. Well, that chica would have to be around 40-45 years old. Let me say this: it is a hell of a lot easier ditching a grown 40 year old woman than it is an 18 year old. Many of you guys read her age as just a number and didn't consider her less-than-mature state of mind. Put yourselves into my situation. Your tolerance would be higher than normal as well because you're dealing with an 18 year old. And even higher because she is afflicted with a lifelong impairment that seriously compromises the quality of her life.

Also consider that I already had a lot invested. Sunk costs you could say. Travel expenses, gifts, etc. At the time, my goal was unlimited GFE sex for the next 7 days. If I had just ditched her earlier than I did, then I would be forfeiting my ultimate goal prematurely. My tolerance for BS was higher because I already had significant sunk costs and the payout, if achieved, would be significant.

Another thing, since I am just starting out in Bogota, I had no backup plan or alternatives. My game is the long game of free unlimited GFE. These relationships take some time to cultivate. Due to time constraints, I knew I wouldn't have time to find and cultivate a new relationship. Another factor which raised my tolerance.

So I spent around $330 usd in two days. If the result would have been unlimited GFE sex for the next 7 days, that would be well worth it. Some of you guys pay up to $100 usd / HR, or $200-$300 for TLN. Which makes $330 usd for TLS (toda la semana) a bargain. So I rolled the dice and stuck around for a while. Well worth the risk. Had she not been on the rag, I would have been rewarded with at least a partial payout. Well worth it, especially if you put a premium on 18 year old ass.

And the second $770 k dinner, there was no possible way I, or any other monger, could have predicted 7/8 guests would order two entrees. It came as a shock to me, listening to them place their orders. And not everyone said "thank you. " I'm still trying to figure out how you order two entrees at a restaurant knowing someone is going to foot the bill. When I go out to eat knowing someone else is paying the check, I order one moderately priced entree and limit myself to one drink. Maybe a shared appetizer and no dessert. But that's just me. I supposed I could have pulled a MrE and excused myself to the bathroom and slipped into a taxi but I had some possessions back at her apt and it would be rather awkward going back to retrieve them.

[Elvis 2008]

Again, this whole Bogota 18 year old non-pro experience is something new to me. I'm well aware of the fact that women can't respect men that are too soft. The first time I met SA #1 one thing I noticed were her shoes. Worn and ugly, not fashionable. Perhaps bought second hand. So as many on this board, I felt sorry for her. Along with the fact that she has a medical condition that severely affects her life. So I decided I wanted to bring a little joy into her life and be more tolerant than I normally would be. A couple weeks after we met, she asked me to bail out a family member who did something stupid. Around $600 k or so. I didn't answer for a day, she kept on asking what's wrong and I finally told her don't ask me to bail out family members. So I guess I'm not a complete pushover. Oh and being relatively new to the Bogota scene, I really don't know any restaurants so I had no choice but to go where she suggested.

You have nothing to apologize for with the restaurants. Colombian restaurants have three condiments: ketchup, mustard, and Pepto Bismol.

Yeah, what you did was dumb but I get why you did what you did. It is easy for us to sit here and criticize you but much harder when you are looking at this girl you care about (and you think she cares about you), and you help her out. I get the thought process: trying to be a nice person, helping her out, and maybe score a few points, but you know what you are telling her really? I underpaid for your pussy. That is what you are telling her when you give her gifts.

With seeking, you can get hotter WGs and get bareback a lot more often but just because they are on the site, they are not mostly WGs. That is what they usually are, more picky WGs. I have told guys time and again to not mention money at all if you can help it with seeking women. It was not a plan of mine, but there were times that it just happened, and those were the best times. Guys swear this cannot happen but it happened many times to me. If a gal mentions a price, then she is a WG in SB clothing and treat her like a WG.

On the family front, I met one gal and would not commit to her even though she fucked me bare, was a great gal, asked for no money, and actually made me dinner the first night we met. Thing about her was that I just had the feeling she was spoiled, and the family was looking at me to help out. She wanted to talk like an hour a night though, and I was seeing this new girl and kind of was blowing her off before breaking it off with her. Ironically, before I did, she broke up with me. LOL. I think it was just a ploy though because her sister called me a month later. This gal and I had been to Mexico, and I was going to ask her sister to come with us. Well, the sister called me and asked if I could just buy her a ticket to go to Mexico on her own, and it kind of confirmed for me what I felt. The pseudo GF was not happy about it even after we broke it off, but I was right not to move forward with her.

The men's rights guys are correct in that you cannot buy genuine desire. OTOH, you can show them a good time and be a fun guy so they are more interested in you. So yeah, take them on trips, to fancy dinners you want to go to, to fun shows that you want to go see. If you can get a woman laughing and smiling all the time, it almost does not matter what you look like or how old you are.

I took these three hotties to Cancun that I met from seeking. I paid for tickets to Xcaret, which is kind of an amusement park. Tickets were like $100 apiece. We had a good time, but there is like a 2 hours show at the end of the day about the history of Mexico, and the ending brought tears to their eyes. Again, it is something I wanted to see.

Anyway, we get back to our place, and the women dress up and put on a show for me. One suck and fucks then the other then the other. The women got into each other, and it was real life foursome with three really hot women. The guys who just do WGs never get this kind of a session. When the trip was done, not one asked for money, but I gave them $150 each just for travel emergencies, and we hung out for four days.

Now that I am out of the game I can see clearly what works and what did not. If you pay for good times, you do get a higher level of sex and intimacy than just with a WG while gift giving has a negative return.

And BTW, I always learned more from my failures than successes. What all these all knowing fools do not get is that those negative experiences are what got me to where I am now. Kudos to you for trying to treat a woman like a human being and more than just a pussy. Big thing now is to just say you are not going to do it again. It is just super easy to say it here, and it is super hard when you got some dream girl in front of you.

[Woodman09]

I have the unique opportunity to spend time in SF and cultivate relationships with SF girls.

For me it's like having real relationships -- LOL.

I have this experience with SGs and CGs. I find a good girl in the clubs or on street and will be banging them a few to many times.

I start banging some new girls and kinda fade on these girls from before and some get really pissed and don't want to bang anymore. Just like IRL.

And if they do they will give me a lame session-- I learned my lesson. If they are acting all pissed off, We have broken up-- It's Over!

SexPat Life Rules!

[Mr Enternational]

Where does the "begging to be novios" thing come from? I've seen it many times from girls I've met. It's a huge red flag.

I do not know if it is a red flag, but I like to ask what does being novios entail. What do I have to do and what do you have to do.

If someone who you've barely met starts talking about being novios, treat her the same as a random stranger who asks to borrow your car.

Well I can not say that because that is one of my tactics: to claim the chick as my girlfriend. Last couple of days I have been telling this chick that we are novios. She kept saying amigos right up until her pants came off last night. Then after we fucked I said are we still friends. And the usual response: shut up. That is not funny. I say oh yes hell it is.

[Ggekko2009]

Again, this whole Bogota 18 year old non-pro experience is something new to me. I'm well aware of the fact that women can't respect men that are too soft. The first time I met SA #1 one thing I noticed were her shoes. Worn and ugly, not fashionable. Perhaps bought second hand. So as many on this board, I felt sorry for her. Along with the fact that she has a medical condition that severely affects her life. So I decided I wanted to bring a little joy into her life and be more tolerant than I normally would be. A couple weeks after we met, she asked me to bail out a family member who did something stupid. Around $600 k or so. I didn't answer for a day, she kept on asking what's wrong and I finally told her don't ask me to bail out family members. So I guess I'm not a complete pushover. Oh and being relatively new to the Bogota scene, I really don't know any restaurants so I had no choice but to go where she suggested.

I've probably logged 100 times as many hours in 3rd world countries in the past 10 years as you have. Trust me, I know 3rd world environments at least as well as you do. In Mexico, in homes with no hot water, they use a metal stick heater. It's a metal coil, about a foot long, and you plug it in. You submerge the metal part into a bucket of water and it heats it up. It actually works pretty well. They cost around $5 usd at any hardware store. I've attached a photo of this fantasy made-up water heater that is never used "no matter how cold it is outside. ".

It takes a lot of courage to share the fails and do not take all the feedback as it being against you. I know that I had my fair share of being conned in the past and being taken for a ride as well. I can only say that Pride is the biggest reason why this would fall on anyone even with years of experiences. Nowadays I can see the patterns and I would usually put a stop to it before it starts.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Damn sure is. Whenever I meet a chick parading as a non-pro and it turns out she is on that tip I will offer money for a one time session but they get offended. Fucking you one time for money they feel like hookers, but fucking you many times over a longer period for constant money and gifts, well that is somehow different.

Fucking you one time for money they feel like hookers, but fucking you many times over a longer period for constant money and gifts, well that is somehow different.

This sounds like the way most American females operate.

Selling pussy ala carte cheaply is really scummy.

But raping some chump for everything, is called marriage aka winning the "mini powerball".