Bogota Reports

[YyzTravel]

@Orgasmico / @JjBee62 / @Atanion - thanks guys. Appreciate the feedback here. (posting once instead of spamming with three thank-you replies).

Already a member. I didn't want to be one of those guys who just ask questions and didn't contribute at least financially. (although bitcoin was a bit of a pain) I have been doing a ton of research and planning and spent the better part of the last 5 days during free time reading reports almost a year back in each category to catch up. Here is my current plan.

Practice more of my Spanish. I'm conversational, but lack context for sex, adult language, etc.

]I have been working adult language specifically. Started a document of things less often found that we could turn info an FAQ for people if you guys want me to share it. (ie: how to translate cum on your face).

Already have a flight booked - caught DeltaOne cabin direct on a flash sale - if things go south, I'm a diamond so it will just roll to credit. Same with the hotel, can cancel the last minute with no worries. I have the JW Marriott and AC Zona T booked tentative.

I have put about 10 hours into a custom google map. I know there are some on the board already, but I wanted someone that is a little more custom. I have mine now sorted by region, different icons per category, collapsable categories, color schemes, etc. I have everything on there: Night Clubs, Day Casas, Night Casas, Clubs, Pharmacies, Restaurants, etc, etc, etc. I have been doing TONS of research and tying them to Google Geocoordinates for places with reviews, etc

I'm going to spend the next few months working on things and crossing my fingers that the world goes back to normal, then post a pretty detailed plan with my preferences and get feedback.

[Orgasmico]

Be smart. New "Pico y Genero" rules.

http://thecitypaperbogota.com/bogota...QKoPtjNK7Y72Sg

In a virtual press conference, the Mayor has restricted pedestrian and vehicular mobility in the entire city based on gender. Men will be able to do essential errands on all days ending with an ODD number, and women, on all days with an EVEN number.

[JjBee62]

Instead of posting 30+ questions, I've found it more effective to come up with a plan and then share it in the forum for feedback. The research you'll have to do in order to create a plan will probably answer a lot of your questions.

Your plan should include the rough timeframe of when you plan to visit (sharing that you'll be there for 6 nights is a great start), the places you'll go, how you plan to get around, and, if possible, the girls you plan to fuck (or the services you'll use to find girls to fuck). Be as detailed as possible. You'll probably end up with a handful of questions left over, and you can post them at the end of your plan.

Good luck.

--Atanion.

Yes and no.

The problem with plans for first timers is they are either too conservative or unrealistic.

First step, get a paid subscription here. It sometimes takes awhile, but it's worth it. That way you can communicate directly with people, instead of hoping someone sees your post.

Next, and he's already started, tell the board what you enjoy, whether you're looking for daytime or nighttime action, what's your budget and what's most important. Some guys are only wanting the most beautiful girl, they don't care if she lays there like an inflatable doll. Some guys want giant tits or asses, some need the BBBJ. No sense in directing someone to Santa Fe if they'd be happier in the north clubs.

Once people know what you're about, they can better guide you in the right direction.

[Atanion]

I'm planning a 6 night trip in September for my 40th and hoping the world goes back to semi-normal by then. I have done a lot of reading here, read Routard's guide and been looking around the forum as well. That being said, is this the right venue to ask questions? I don't want to spam the channel with 30+ questions, but I an also looking for information that I don't think is quite addressed in these FAQS.

Thoughts? Thanks, guys!

Instead of posting 30+ questions, I've found it more effective to come up with a plan and then share it in the forum for feedback. The research you'll have to do in order to create a plan will probably answer a lot of your questions.

Your plan should include the rough timeframe of when you plan to visit (sharing that you'll be there for 6 nights is a great start), the places you'll go, how you plan to get around, and, if possible, the girls you plan to fuck (or the services you'll use to find girls to fuck). Be as detailed as possible. You'll probably end up with a handful of questions left over, and you can post them at the end of your plan.

Good luck.

--Atanion.

[IronQuinn]

I'm planning a 6 night trip in September for my 40th and hoping the world goes back to semi-normal by then. I have done a lot of reading here, read Routard's guide and been looking around the forum as well. That being said, is this the right venue to ask questions? I don't want to spam the channel with 30+ questions, but I an also looking for information that I don't think is quite addressed in these FAQS.

Thoughts? Thanks, guys!

It's good to do your research and plan things out, but I wouldn't pull the trigger yet if I were you. Wait and see when the border opens up officially. It's too early to make predictions. Colombia will most likely open to residents first, and then foreigners. If you're coming from the US, like me, we're on the black list right now due to all the active cases. Things have to settle down everywhere before any traveling happens. I know how you feel, because I had the same idea as I turn 40 this year as well. But, it is what it is. Just be patient. Trust me, the girls will be there when all this is under control. In the meantime, practice your Spanish and read thoroughly through the forum. There's a lot of good guys on the forum that can help with questions, but only if you do your research first. Nine times out of ten, your questions have most likely already been discussed on here.

[Nounce]

And there is also a third platform. ----------------------------------- She said she meets guys on the dating sites. They deposit $30-$50 in her paypal. She gets on whatsapp or whatever with them and does a camshow for 10 minutes.

This is very popular with girls living in Venezuela, and Philippine. They will seek you out. I ended up chatting with one. I said I can't go to your country, then she offered to perform any requests online for money via paypal. I was not interested so I said I would send her some money anyway, how much was the service? She told me it's based on the request. I said show me the receipts so I have an idea on how much to send as I don't want her to perform anything. I was surprised to learn the minimum she showed me was US $50. The highest was $100. Many others in between. I think that is a significant amount of money in Venezuela. This girl looks like a normal girl, a little chubby, the attractive part to me is she looks like a girl next door, and that is it.

[JjBee62]

And there is also a third platform. The other night I stayed over a chick's place here in Thailand. She said she meets guys on the dating sites. They deposit $30-$50 in her paypal. She gets on whatsapp or whatever with them and does a camshow for 10 minutes.

That's not so much a platform as a entrepreneur. You can find those all over the world. Just women who reach out to guys wherever they can and convince them to send money for a sex show. Used to be huge in the Philippines, now it seems to be really common in Vietnam.

Even better, there are quite a few escorts who use the livestream platforms to get guys to follow their Snapchat. Besides selling pictures and videos from there, they advertise their travel schedule so guys can come fuck them.

[YyzTravel]

I'm planning a 6 night trip in September for my 40th and hoping the world goes back to semi-normal by then. I have done a lot of reading here, read Routard's guide and been looking around the forum as well. That being said, is this the right venue to ask questions? I don't want to spam the channel with 30+ questions, but I an also looking for information that I don't think is quite addressed in these FAQS.

Thoughts? Thanks, guys!

[LeyenLouvain]

And there is also a third platform. The other night I stayed over a chick's place here in Thailand. She said she meets guys on the dating sites. They deposit $30-$50 in her paypal. She gets on whatsapp or whatever with them and does a camshow for 10 minutes.

Webcam platforms are set up as porn sites..

Livestream platforms are mostly setup for everyone.

Thanks both. I wouldn't pay $30 for a live cam show! The livestream platforms are probably useful for practising Spanish.

[Mr Enternational]

I'll try to unravel this.

First, there are 2 different types of platforms here, webcam and livestream.

And there is also a third platform. The other night I stayed over a chick's place here in Thailand. She said she meets guys on the dating sites. They deposit $30-$50 in her paypal. She gets on whatsapp or whatever with them and does a camshow for 10 minutes.

[Chesscat]

I love hanging around on corners in Santa Fe, mostly just loitering in the street when it's early. Which corner was your favoured in the a / m?

Kanga.

That would be 24 and 15, oj and tinto, mostly tinto. Older Venezuelan guy with some younger helpers. Buckets with a board seat. Sit with a tinto and check things out in comfort and relaxed.

[JjBee62]

Thanks for your replies.

The figures I could find were about 3 cents to buy a token, but half a cent of value when she redeems it. I would expect the girl to get at least 50% of what I put in. Otherwise it feels that I would be wasting my money like those people who buy tokens in games like Candy Crush or Fortnite without any prospect of winning real cash.

In those examples I couldn't actually get the product without paying, but the girls will be dancing whether I pay or not!

I'll try to unravel this.

First, there are 2 different types of platforms here, webcam and livestream.

Webcam platforms are set up as porn sites, all models require validated identification and many payment processors won't deal with them for fear of getting caught up in trafficking laws. Most webcam sites sell tokens for about $0. 08 each. They buy tokens for $0. 05 each. Customer pays $80 for 1,000 tokens, model gets paid $50 for 1,000 tokens. Except the money usually doesn't go to the model. It goes to the studio she probably works for. The studio takes their cut. That share depends on how much the studio provides the model. If she works in the studio's room, they probably take half. If she works in her own apartment, using her own equipment, they may only take 20%, in select cases even less. So a typical webcam model gets 30-40% of what the customer pays.

Livestream platforms are mostly setup for everyone. With a couple of exceptions, no porn allowed, no verified identification. They also require nothing more than a smartphone and internet connection. A smaller percentage of the models need to go through a studio, although there are studios operating on these platforms. The cut taken by the platform is greater than webcam, but varies quite a bit. However, most models don't need to give a share to a studio, so it balances somewhat.

[LeyenLouvain]

Thanks for your replies.

Why be discouraged. The Platform has to pay bills. I'm no expert on the subject but that % you note is not one I am familiar with. My understanding is it ranges the other way from 80% to the girls, down to 50%.

The market (girls) will decide which commission structure or provider works best for them and word of mouth is the biggest marketer in this business.

Obviously the main reason the girls do it is for money. If they don't see money coming their way they will try and look for somewhere else or something else.

The figures I could find were about 3 cents to buy a token, but half a cent of value when she redeems it. I would expect the girl to get at least 50% of what I put in. Otherwise it feels that I would be wasting my money like those people who buy tokens in games like Candy Crush or Fortnite without any prospect of winning real cash.

Why? Were you discouraged that record companies did the same thing so you did not buy any records? When you look online, chicks willing to show their asses are a dime a dozen and the people that have built the platforms realize that. I see it as whereas some mongers like to overpay chicks, these companies are really only paying them what it is actually worth. And evidently the chicks are fine with the amount they are receiving or they would not be doing it.

When you go to a fast food restaurant and order a drink it costs them about 10 cents, but you are paying $1.50 for it. Where is the discouragement in that?

In those examples I couldn't actually get the product without paying, but the girls will be dancing whether I pay or not!

[KangarooTed]

I had a place to sit and drink "tinto" on the corner, bars I knew and girls I knew.

I love hanging around on corners in Santa Fe, mostly just loitering in the street when it's early. Which corner was your favoured in the a / m?

Kanga.

[Mr Enternational]

Thanks for explaining how it works. I don't mind giving a bit of money to these girls in barrios populares who are entertaining people in these difficult times. However I am discouraged by the fact that the platform seems to take a massive 85% commission!

Why? Were you discouraged that record companies did the same thing so you did not buy any records? When you look online, chicks willing to show their asses are a dime a dozen and the people that have built the platforms realize that. I see it as whereas some mongers like to overpay chicks, these companies are really only paying them what it is actually worth. And evidently the chicks are fine with the amount they are receiving or they would not be doing it.

When you go to a fast food restaurant and order a drink it costs them about 10 cents, but you are paying $1.50 for it. Where is the discouragement in that?