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  1. #13314
    Quote Originally Posted by Tasss  [View Original Post]
    The main thing that separates cheap and expensive phones nowadays is the camera. Budget and midrange phones will do everything you need to do in Colombia, like Translator, FB, Maps, WhatsApp etc. Why risk it even if the risk is relatively low by Bogota standards? Take like old Samsung S9/10 outside which takes alright pics and leave your S23 indoors unless you need exceptional low light photography.
    The main thing that separates your expensive phone and a cheap burner phone is the expensive phone probably has all your banking apps, crypto wallets, investment accounts, credit cards, etc.

    If they steal your cheap phone and get access, they can find that you fucked Aleja, Fernanda and Camila yesterday. If they get access to your main phone, you could be out thousands.

    Compromise. Buy a 2 year old expensive, unlocked phone, just put your basic needs on it and you protect all your stuff and still have a great camera. If you lose it, you're out $200, plus the pictures of Aleja, Fernanda and Camila.

  2. #13313
    Quote Originally Posted by Gropai  [View Original Post]
    I just came back from Flirt Hotel. Here's a report.

    I've known about this place for a long time and know it's expensive, but when I talked to the receptionist on whatsapp I was still a little shocked. You need to transfer 30 USD to be able to make a reservation for a visit. The money is consumable as part of the final bill. One hour costs 200 USD for the girl and 100 USD for the room. Also, the receptionist told me it's "customary" to buy the girl you choose a cocktail or champagne, which is around 70 mil, and you don't have to buy one for yourself. So, in total, a 1 hour session is in the 300 - 350 USD range. Exorbitant by Colombian standards.

    I hesitated a little bit, but finally decided to bite the bullet. I spent 3000 USD on air fare, 30+ hours on the plane and quit my job for this trip. I don't mind spending a few hundred more. In for a penny, in for a pound.

    The receptionist told me on whatsapp that today is Monday, so pickings were pretty slim with only 7 girls. Among the 7 girls, only 2 have all natural body. I was disappointed and the receptionist reassured me if I don't like the girls after seeing the lineup, I can just leave and come another day.

    But after seeing the lineup, I picked one of the 2 natural girls anyway. Her face was 7, body was 8: all natural with nice curves and a round and bouncing ass. She would score better if she had a more athletic physique and didn't have baby damage. The session was done in a nice room, maybe equivalent to a 3-star hotel room. The most amazing thing about this girl is how committed she was during the session. Even though she didn't offer BBBJ, she volunteered to do DFK and deepthroat passionately, and even choked multiple times. She rode me crazy until she was exhausted and even so she didn't quit because our session didn't end. I usually don't tip girls, but I tipped her because she worked really hard. However, you should beware that according to past reports girls at Flirt Hotel don't always have good service in bed.

    The strange thing is when I paid at the end, I was charged in COP, not USD. And the bill came out to be around 1,200,000 COP, which is about 260 USD. I paid with credit card and there was no service fee. When the manager showed the owner of the place my bill, the owner couldn't help but show a happy face and genuinely thanked me for my visit. He even closed his palms when appreciating my visit. I guess he thought that was an Asian thing, LOL.

    They sent me a driver for transportation free of charge, and the driver told me Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays usually have more girls, and they are usually younger too. I think I will repeat to see this place in its prime. It is indeed expensive, but at least the prices are open and on the table. It's equally expensive to everyone. The staff are cordial too. You won't feel like being ripped off and fooled around as a gringo.
    I won't tell you how to spend your money, because everyone has there own budget, but yes, 1,200,000 per hour is extremely expensive. I'm not just talking about over paying I'm talking about in another league. I remember going to lido, which is already considered expensive and asking how much to take a girl back with me and was quoted 1 M. That was a girl who I considered a high 8, Jessica Alba look alike with a nice body to match. Given that, I would be terribly upset if the girl was anything but extremely enthusiastic. For that amount of money, you should be demanding the service that you received at the very minimum, not simply grateful. Lucky they don't know how to use exchange rates, 350 USD / HR is ridiculous, especially for someone with baby damage. But I'm glad you had a good time and great report!

    Maybe you should give lido a shot as it might be to your liking. Or even Seeking Arrangement. If you're willing to spend 1 M per hour, I doubt you'll have trouble finding takers there.

  3. #13312
    Quote Originally Posted by PineTree  [View Original Post]
    A place called "Abejitas" should be within walking distance of your hotel. I have not been there personally but I have heard good things about it.
    I've been here after seeing a few positive reviews of this place. They have a few different branches, and there is one in corferias that is probably about a 10 leisurely minute walk away from the hyatt place.

    My session there was good but the girls there are not particurlarly attractive. They show you a lineup of all the "therapists", but they are all dressed in loose fitting therapist uniforms.

    You will have no idea what their bodies are like. I choose 1 based on her face, which upon a closer look wasn't that great.

    She ended up being more thin than I usually like. I think it cost 190k or 180k for an hour. Had DFK, CBJ, very passionate lady, but probably will not repeat.

  4. #13311
    Quote Originally Posted by DJHeywood  [View Original Post]
    I'm staying in Chapinero, if I dress down, don't draw attention, stay away from sketch spots. At Zona T or the touristy / gringo friendly bars will I still need to be paranoid about my phone S23? Other than Whatsapp / Google translate at the bar, just keeping zipped with a money / phone belt to my stomach. Perhaps just sticking to midscale or upscale dance party bars / clubs with bouncers?
    The main thing that separates cheap and expensive phones nowadays is the camera. Budget and midrange phones will do everything you need to do in Colombia, like Translator, FB, Maps, WhatsApp etc. Why risk it even if the risk is relatively low by Bogota standards? Take like old Samsung S9/10 outside which takes alright pics and leave your S23 indoors unless you need exceptional low light photography.

  5. #13310

    Flirt Hotel

    I just came back from Flirt Hotel. Here's a report.

    I've known about this place for a long time and know it's expensive, but when I talked to the receptionist on whatsapp I was still a little shocked. You need to transfer 30 USD to be able to make a reservation for a visit. The money is consumable as part of the final bill. One hour costs 200 USD for the girl and 100 USD for the room. Also, the receptionist told me it's "customary" to buy the girl you choose a cocktail or champagne, which is around 70 mil, and you don't have to buy one for yourself. So, in total, a 1 hour session is in the 300 - 350 USD range. Exorbitant by Colombian standards.

    I hesitated a little bit, but finally decided to bite the bullet. I spent 3000 USD on air fare, 30+ hours on the plane and quit my job for this trip. I don't mind spending a few hundred more. In for a penny, in for a pound.

    The receptionist told me on whatsapp that today is Monday, so pickings were pretty slim with only 7 girls. Among the 7 girls, only 2 have all natural body. I was disappointed and the receptionist reassured me if I don't like the girls after seeing the lineup, I can just leave and come another day.

    But after seeing the lineup, I picked one of the 2 natural girls anyway. Her face was 7, body was 8: all natural with nice curves and a round and bouncing ass. She would score better if she had a more athletic physique and didn't have baby damage. The session was done in a nice room, maybe equivalent to a 3-star hotel room. The most amazing thing about this girl is how committed she was during the session. Even though she didn't offer BBBJ, she volunteered to do DFK and deepthroat passionately, and even choked multiple times. She rode me crazy until she was exhausted and even so she didn't quit because our session didn't end. I usually don't tip girls, but I tipped her because she worked really hard. However, you should beware that according to past reports girls at Flirt Hotel don't always have good service in bed.

    The strange thing is when I paid at the end, I was charged in COP, not USD. And the bill came out to be around 1,200,000 COP, which is about 260 USD. I paid with credit card and there was no service fee. When the manager showed the owner of the place my bill, the owner couldn't help but show a happy face and genuinely thanked me for my visit. He even closed his palms when appreciating my visit. I guess he thought that was an Asian thing, LOL.

    They sent me a driver for transportation free of charge, and the driver told me Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays usually have more girls, and they are usually younger too. I think I will repeat to see this place in its prime. It is indeed expensive, but at least the prices are open and on the table. It's equally expensive to everyone. The staff are cordial too. You won't feel like being ripped off and fooled around as a gringo.

  6. #13309

    Attempted scoping

    Hate to add another shitty report and this one will not apply to everyone. It's specific for people who like to do outcalls. Note that even though I took the girl from SF, this can happen on any outcall. You're susceptible as long as you let the girl into your room, whether she comes from SF, Photoprepagos or Mileroticos. So outcalls have a lot of risks and I try my best to protect myself but you can't avoid all problems.

    This girl uses the name Alejandra Reyes and works at SF. I gave her my offer to go to my apartment for 1 HR and she thinks about it and agrees. She says she needs to go buy beer first and we should drink. I told her you can buy drinks, and I'd pay for your beers after our session, that's not a problem. But I don't drink myself. This is obviously to protect myself from scoping but I also don't like alcohol in reality. She buys 4 cans of beer, we get in the taxi and she keeps insisting that I open one even though I kept telling her no. She keeps insisting, then I'm thinking, this isn't good, she's has a high probability of being a scoper and I need to get myself out of the situation. Her carrying what looks like an iPhone 12/13 in Santa Fe is another warning sign but I didn't see it initially. Girls normally will not take expensive phones to Santa Fe unless it didn't cost them much (gifted or stolen). So when we get to the apartment, taxi driver sees that I'm distracted trying to avoid opening the beers so he tried to pass me a fake 10 mil as change. The bill felt super fake so I'm like nope, then he charges me 15 mil for the ride, even though it's always 6-8 mil. So whatever fuck this guy, I pay him 15 because I'm trying to get rid of this chica. I go into the apartment building which has a security guard. The guard and I are on good terms and I tip him from time to time. I told the guard through the translator don't let her inside and I went upstairs.

    The next part is just kind of dumb on my part because it should have been over then. I ordered a Rappi which came about 10 minutes after I went upstairs. I thought the girl would have been gone by then but when I went down to get food she was still there. I got the Rappi and the girl keeps saying I need to pay her, I took out my phone for the translator and she grabs it in front of the security guard. Guard does nothing. I'm like wtf dude (we had a long conversation afterwards but tldr is that he doesn't want to get involved and thinks I should pay the possible scoper what I promised for the outcall, no f'ing way I'm doing that). Well after a lot of back and forth, I go upstairs and leave the phone with her since it's a shit backup phone. If you saw my previous post the phone I lost this time is the second cheapo phone, worth about $30. So between the earlier robbery and this one, I lost two phones worth $100 in Santa Fe.

    So the only bright side is that I wasn't in any physical danger. But that's because 1) I don't like alcohol and avoid it altogether and 2) I knew about the scope attacks going on in Colombia. If though you're not aware of the scopolamine epidemic going on, especially in Medellin, maybe less so in Bogota, then you could very well lose a lot of money and potentially your life to "just a beer".

    Here's the thing, although your experience might not match mine exactly, for example, you use some other "safer" outcall sources, you have no idea who these girls are and scams CAN happen. A mildly annoying example is the girl comes and she doesn't look anything like her online photos and getting rid of her becomes a chore, which did happen the first time I used Photoprepagos. Worse is if she doesn't perform and asks you to pay her (has happened to me also). Finally if she claims you were violent and blackmails you, thankfully has not happened to me but you can imagine that without in-room surveillence you'd be SOL.

  7. #13308

    Zona T it is!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Its not going to be like Zona T, there are some restaurants, but the area is not known for restaurants, no one goes there to eat specifically, they'll eat there because they happen to be there.

    Anywhere you go from the the Hyatt Place, you're going to be taking a taxi or an uber, theres nothing really interesting around. Although there is a bar very near the hotel, called la oficina, that offers girls, but I doubt the quality there. There is also a casa that many girls work out at carrera 44 A #24 B-36 that's about a 5 block walk away.

    The hotel itself is quite good, and usually is decently priced. And GF, although they will try to charge you 60 k if the girl stays overnight. If you book the room for 2, you might be able to talk yourself out of that charge though.
    Thank you for confirming what I've been able to gauge from some old posts and reviews. I got a nice deal using Hyatt points but not worth it given these shortcomings. Zona T definitely sounds like the best location; I have booked Hotel B3.

  8. #13307

    Hyatt Place

    Quote Originally Posted by Priint  [View Original Post]
    This is great info. Thank you! For my upcoming trip in 3 weeks I am currently booked at Hyatt Place Convention Center. Any idea if this hotel is in a good area with restaurants within walking distance? Hotel is highly rated and most reviews say it is in a safe area. However it is not in Chapinero and after reading multiple posts here I am debating whether I should switch to another hotel in that part of town.
    A place called "Abejitas" should be within walking distance of your hotel. I have not been there personally but I have heard good things about it.

  9. #13306

    Back in Bogotá

    Back in Bogotá for a five days, if anyone fancies meeting up to tour Santa Fé, let me know. Easy-going and friendly.

  10. #13305
    Quote Originally Posted by Gropai  [View Original Post]
    I just spent my first day in Bogota, and also the first day in South America, for that matter. As a crazy ass man stuck in China throughout his life, I've been super excited about this trip since it's my first time ever to play with some juicy ass. Unfortunately, the overall experience is terrible.

    First of all, I was ripped off by my uber driver when I was going from the airport to airbnb. After dropping me off in Usaquen, the scumbag kept the meter running by circling around, and the final bill cost me about 20,000 more. It's not a lot of money, but I find it disgusting.

    Then I scheduled a 1 hour session with Danna from Eroticas Bogota. I've read great things about this agency lately, so I decided to give it a shot. I confirmed with the receptionist that Danna was available and went to get a room in a love motel. But after I sent the receptionist the photo of my room key, the asshole told me that "unfortunately, Danna has already committed herself to family matter". On top of that, he recommended a few girls to me. Obviously the bottom-of-the-barrel type that probably nobody has booked before. Fuck off! I will never do business with this agency again.

    After the escort thing went south, I decided to give Loutron a try. The bastards that run this place blatantly quoted me "400 mil for the girl, 300 mil for the room, so 700 mil in total for 1 hour". Ridiculous and shameless!

    To be honest, Colombia is not my first choice as a mongering destination. My dream land is the legendary bundaland: Brazil. Unfortunately, I didn't get my Brazilian visa in China, so I flew all the way down to Colombia to apply for the visa here because the application requirements are much more lenient. But before I get my Brazilian visa, I still need to find some way to happily monger here. Since Santa Fe is too raunchy for me, it's not an option. Do you guys have any ideas? Please advise. Thank you.
    Sorry about that but try Medellin I think you will find it competes better with Brazil. Much better weather easier to get around etc and Paisa pussy!

  11. #13304

    Santa Fe Safety

    As I begin this post I hope all you ISG guys are in good health-.

    I knock on wood everyday-- maybe that has kept me safe while living in Danger Danger Santa Fe for 9+years?

    Seriously though I know some people are more prone to being robbed-.

    Being / showing intimidation is not something you don't want to do-- But some guys appear more vulnerable than others and get picked out.

    The guy who posted recently about being robbed-- that particular block is a good one to be on gaurd as it is kinda isolated and there are a lot of homeless there-.

    He was not in the main area.

    If you are a woman your odds of being robbed increase exponentially anywhere in the world-- Sorry to hear about LL's GF-.

    Personally I have been to places that are Much more dangerous than Santa Fe --Like South Central LA, the Bronx and Tijuana-.

    Here they are just not as predatory as many many other places like Medellin-- Or the North of Bogota where Professional Ladrones Hunt Gringos-.

    I have not been robbed yet on tour or alone-- I cannot gaurantee that it won't happen --I Shall Remain vigilent.

    -- Get To Santa Fe and Bang Away!

  12. #13303
    Sorry, that sounds like a shitty experience, unfortunately, that's the risk when going off of mileroticos or photoprepagos. ALL the photos are altered!

    You never know what they're going to look like when you get there, but you do have the option of just saying, you don't look like your photos and leaving. But you've already wasted your time getting there, I get it. One general rule is to always opt for the minimal costing option, un rato. Then if she's actually good, you get her number, make sure its her number and not her managers. Or just come back and get a longer session. Also, if you're expecting more than 1 shot in a 1 hour session, you usually need to ask to make sure. Cuantos relaciones.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueChange  [View Original Post]
    Valery 160 HR + 90 mil oral natural.

    I'm staying in the north and wanted something closer to me rather then tracking all the way down to Chapinero or Santa Fe.

    I message her early she says she will be there in like a half hour.

    Take a take to a regular residential building. The security guy talks to me thru a voice phone that has the sound quality of something alexander graham bell made.

    I get buzzed in, go take a small elevator a couple floors up. I ring the bell and slowly a cute redhead answers. It is the girl in the photo.

    Her face isn't anything special to write home about but she isn't ugly either, its just sort of mid. Her body is nice though. She has fake tits BUT they are very squishy like she had them for several years. You can see small cuts in the nipples where they went in. Her skin is very white.

    I pay her for the hour and we get right down to business. She dances on my standing for about 30 seconds then puts me on the bed. I take off my clothes as she reveals her nice Full see almost the cups. I suck on her nipples but when I go in for a kiss she does a cheek turn. This chick does ZERO kissing at all. Not even a neck or anything. Ok.

    She wipes me with an alcohol wipe for like 45 seconds then puts me in her mouth but I'm not really even that hard. However, her mouth is very soft and she has regular suction. I start to get harder while playing with her pussy and tits and while I want more she just grabs the rubber, puts it on and mounts me. ,Her pussy is very tight and she has a homer mouth style innie. 5 min in she says "in quatro" she bends over and has a great ass however I just feel her not there, not in the moment and the mechanics of it all coming together.

    I switch to sideways so I can see her tits bouncing and then eventually on top. I ask her to finish me on her tits and she sucks me. I get close to cumming but she damn near stops as I'm close to cumming and ALMOST gives me a ruined orgasm. I had to grab my Johnson from her halfway and keep going so I could get the full experience. She cleans herself off and then asks if I want a massage. I say yes. She puts on super cold cream and massages me for literally 2 minutes and then says "ok terminar".

    I lay there just going thru my phone with messages and thinking how I should have just done a half hour. She goes away for 5 min and talks with her friend who is in the other room. She comes back in and is basically asking me what I am still doing there, the price was only for 1 relation. I said "yo pago para 1 hora" she is obviously upset that I haven't already left as its only been like 35 minutes or so. I just feel frustrated so 5 min later I put my clothes on and bounce.

    Face 5.

    Body 7. 5.

    Performance 3.

    Valery 3227947728.

    https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/p...dias/24355308/

    https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepag...dable-id-why5p

  13. #13302
    Quote Originally Posted by DJHeywood  [View Original Post]
    Did they have hot girls there at least?
    There was only one girl. Average face, but the body was hot. An 8 maybe.

  14. #13301
    Quote Originally Posted by Priint  [View Original Post]
    This is great info. Thank you! For my upcoming trip in 3 weeks I am currently booked at Hyatt Place Convention Center. Any idea if this hotel is in a good area with restaurants within walking distance? Hotel is highly rated and most reviews say it is in a safe area. However it is not in Chapinero and after reading multiple posts here I am debating whether I should switch to another hotel in that part of town.
    Its not going to be like Zona T, there are some restaurants, but the area is not known for restaurants, no one goes there to eat specifically, they'll eat there because they happen to be there.

    Anywhere you go from the the Hyatt Place, you're going to be taking a taxi or an uber, theres nothing really interesting around. Although there is a bar very near the hotel, called la oficina, that offers girls, but I doubt the quality there. There is also a casa that many girls work out at carrera 44 A #24 B-36 that's about a 5 block walk away.

    The hotel itself is quite good, and usually is decently priced. And GF, although they will try to charge you 60 k if the girl stays overnight. If you book the room for 2, you might be able to talk yourself out of that charge though.

  15. #13300
    I've spent a lot of time in Bogota and have seen my share of shit, but never been mugged, luckily. Its a big city and santa fe is a shitty area.

    Its definitely dangerous. I would never let my guard down in Santa Fe. There's always someone watching you. Theres always some wierd shit going on, that you'd rather not know about.

    Do not take it lightly. That said, its about the cheapest sex you're going to get anywhere, but its really basic. Don't expect any GFE there.

    There are some gems there, but not many, and it takes time to find them. The chances you're going to find one, if you're on vacation in Bogota for a week and go to there 2 or 3 times, is pretty low. Really question people who say there are 9's and 10's in santa fe. I would say there are plenty of 6's, a few 7's and if you're really lucky, an 8.

    I used to go there almost everyday, but I think my standards have gone up, and it takes me longer to find anyone worth having sex with there, so I don't go there as much anymore.

    Good hunting! Stay safe!

    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    I'm not a fan of SF but for some guys its heaven. Any talk of danger in SF and the fans of SF will come down on you. However, there are lots of areas as dangerous and even more dangerous than SF.

    I think its rare in the center of SF in front of the clubs because the owners of the clubs have a vested interest to keep it low key. I have tried to warn guys for years about the dangers of Bogota.

    Time of day, crowded areas do not gurantee you of any security. Although time and area will effect your chances of a mugging, to some degree. People around mean NOTHING, Bogotanos WILL NOT GET INVOLVED.

    My girlfriend of 5 years had her 5th phone stolen in 5 years, last week, at lunch time, in el centro with lots of people around.

    She is doing her internship at a large engineering firm, from 7 to 1 and then 2 to 7 at class in the Nat'l University. As she made her way into the street half running from the transmilenio platform a big black Colombian with a large knife jumped in front of her and put the knife into her side and demand her phone, wallet computer etc. In her back pack. She stalled a bit hoping someone would step in, of course NO ONE did and never will. He got pissed she wasn't moving fast enough. By this time she got her phone out of her bag he grabbed it, punched her in the eye, breaking her glasses and cutting her on the side of her face, just missing her eye. He ran away. Immediately another man came up to her, didn't offer help, only asked her what did he steal from you. WHY you ask? Because they were working together, he was in on the robbery and wanted to know what his accomplice stole so the thief couldn't hold out on him. She then saw him talking to thief as they disappeared into the crowd. Bogota is dangerous, don't listen to anyone who tells you different, if they haven't been robbed yet its because they have not spent a enouhgh time in Bogota yet or don't live there.

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