Bogota Reports

[GMoney582]

16,000 MG = 16 grams. Do you ever have heartburn? Diarrhea? Stomach pain? Flatulence? Dude, you're taking too much.

"...I am not a doctor..." SMH (in disbelief).

I believe that Linus Pauling recommended 18 grams a day and I actually fell a bit short of that. They have found with cancer patients using high doses of Vitamin see as a therapy up to 100 g a day can be tolerated with no ill effect. I was using a pharmaceutical grade and had no ill effect. The general recommendation is to take until bowel intolerance ie it makes you go to the bathroom, but I had the Rona so the runs is part of that. I experienced no ill effects at all. I have an exgirlfriend who suffers from heartburn and I give her high dose (not that high) and it doesn't aggravate her heartburn. But of course everyone should consult his her physician and I would be careful if you have some type of high acid or high pitta as they say in Ayurveda condition. I obviously can't say how it helped me but I recovered pretty quickly, never developed a serious cough, despite a history of always getting bad coughs and my smell and taste returning within days, which most people I know who had it had to wait months even up to a year. Here is the science if you are interested:

https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-C#common-cold-treatment.

[John Clayton]

So. I started getting sick.... I am not a doctor and this isn't medical advice. I was doing 16,000 MG of Vitamin C daily ...

16,000 MG = 16 grams. Do you ever have heartburn? Diarrhea? Stomach pain? Flatulence? Dude, you're taking too much.

"...I am not a doctor..." SMH (in disbelief).

[John Clayton]

...Went for the test and came back positive. Damn. Not good. And I felt like crap on top...

Did you feel anything for all the people you infected?

[Xpartan]

10 days after my test I felt better. My symptoms were gone. You don't have to get a negative test to travel. You need to keep your positive test wait 15 days and get a note from a doctor. I found a doctor who does telemedicineconference online. At that point all symptoms had subsided and I was feeling normal again. It cost me 80,000 pesos for the consultation and travel certificate. I had to send my trusted taxi buddy to Davidienda to deposit the money, but you might be able to do it online. Here's his link. Not sure if he speaks English.

https://telemedicinadoctorflorian.com.co/

Anyway, he told me that I was good to go. I no longer needed to be in quarantine because my first symptoms were over two weeks prior and I had done 10 days in quarantine( it was actually more than that). So the Rona part of the trip ended.

PS: the Venezuelan hottie that spent the first days with me never got sick.

And glad you beat that thing.

[GMoney582]

So. I started getting sick. As I stated in my last post, I get this same upper respiratory thing all the time, so I didn't suspect the Rona at first. I spent Monday pretty normal. I was actually looking at a house I was interested in buying from my cousins, but I had that familiar tightness in my chest all day. I took down a pound of vitamin C, Vitamin D, Elderberry extract and I can usually ward off this illness with these. I still had the Venezuelan girl from Tinder who gave the great massage waiting for me after I finished my house hunting. Same deal 100 k a day. Pretty sweet deal. But by Monday night I was starting to feel really tired. Now granted I was feeling a little something coming on but I also had not slept in days. I took the red eye, I landed and never really rested, so I figured I was just tired. I wasnt in a position for any action with this hottie by my side, so we just cuddled and I passed out. Tuesday I slept all day. She cleaned and sanitized the apartment got us some food. Actually even though I had zero energy, I appreciated her company as I was in bed all day. We just hung out at the apartment. At this point still didn't even really think about covid, but I knew I was not feeling well. Wednesday was pretty much the same just laid around the house with her. By Thursday I thought I was feeling a little better and I had just finished chatting with another ISG buddy about how this chick was staying with me for 100 k a day and how cool it was even though I didn't have the energy to bang her and as I end the chat she tells me she wants more money. She's turning down other opportunities. Since I had a date with another Tinder hottie, I said NEXT and let her walk. That night this beautiful Venezuelan from Tinder comes by my place to meet me. She wasn't a pro. She wasn't comfortable with coming up to my apartment and I told her no worries the original plan was to have a coffee and chat and there is a coffee shop on the corner of my building, so we did. We had a nice conversation and by the time the shop was closing she was ok with coming up to my place. We chatted for a while and she gave me a sensual kiss as she left. We made plans to meet on Friday. Again at this point, I didn't suspect the Rona. But by Friday, I really wasn't well. I bought a thermometer and I had a fever and I had to cancel with her. I knew at this point I was going downhill fast and started suspecting The Rona. I rested Friday and I had my Covid test on Saturday to get back into the states. I figured at that point I would eliminate the doubt. Went for the test and came back positive. Damn. Not good. And I felt like crap on top. 15 more days in Colombia. Luckily Avianca let me change my flight no issues no extra cost and the airbnb where I was staying was available. The most concerning point about the Rona is the feeling of being winded. The only thing I can compare it to is when you're a bit out of shape and climb up a few flights of stairs. You're not quite gasping for air but you feel a lack of oxygen. But I felt that way walking to the kitchen! And taking a dump! Not normal of course. There was a brief moment, literally 15 minutes where I started to panic. I am feeling oxygen deprivation alone in an apartment in a foreign country. Luckily for me I'm Colombian at least and I had my cousin in contact with me looking out for me. She came by and dropped off fruits, herbs and left her contact info with the front desk in case anything happened to me. I can't remember a time feeling that vulnerable. I can definitely see how This breathing issue can become a serious issue for some people. Add to that a panic attack and it can really be devastating. So I chilled myself out and just focused on resting. I am not a doctor and this isn't medical advice. I was doing 16,000 MG of Vitamin C daily along with Vitamin D Zinc and elderberry extract. I was down the whole next week after my test. Just resting and sleeping. This made the quarantine time pass quickly. I viewed going to the hospital as a nuclear option and never felt even close to getting to that point. I figured ID get an oxygen cylinder before I went to the hospital if the breathing issue got that bad. But it didn't. 10 days after my test I felt better. My symptoms were gone. You don't have to get a negative test to travel. You need to keep your positive test wait 15 days and get a note from a doctor. I found a doctor who does telemedicineconference online. At that point all symptoms had subsided and I was feeling normal again. It cost me 80,000 pesos for the consultation and travel certificate. I had to send my trusted taxi buddy to Davidienda to deposit the money, but you might be able to do it online. Here's his link. Not sure if he speaks English.

https://telemedicinadoctorflorian.com.co/

Anyway, he told me that I was good to go. I no longer needed to be in quarantine because my first symptoms were over two weeks prior and I had done 10 days in quarantine( it was actually more than that). So the Rona part of the trip ended.

PS: the Venezuelan hottie that spent the first days with me never got sick.

[GMoney582]

Alright boys here we go. I arrived in Bogo on June 25 took a 2 am flight out of NY got there 7 am. MY airbnb host was super chill let me in at that hour. Really great place right on 32 and Caracass. Walking distance to SF if you feel ok doing that. I had already lined up some chicas via photosprepagos, Tinder and SA so I had a list. I was very successful with Tinder on this trip. I had one who was at the the top, a Venezuelan Q T who I just wanted to be with when I saw her pics on photos. She was working out of Hotel Laureles in Restrepo. I had messaged her several times but she paid me little mind so I was surprised how affectionate and adoring she was when we met. I was actually caught off guard. I'm not usually too comfortable in these short time hotels but this place was ok. We had an amazing session. She immediately dropped my draws and took me in her mouth raw and deep. It was dope. Total GFE and she kept hugging me saying how cute I was and how much she liked me. We had a great session. I took her doggie, cowgirl, mish. Sorry not great with these details. Anyway, my strategy is don't blow. Don't spooj. Don't drop the seed on the first session. I'm 47 and this ain't the same as when I was 25 when I could spooj 4 x a day. So I didn't. There is always the monger's dilemma: do I invest more time with a chica like this who shows you a great time or do you monger? Well I made her an offer to hang with me and be my girl for this trip. I would have been content with that, but these chics want their cake and eat it too. Can't blame them. We couldn't come to a deal so we settled on meeting the next day for 3 hours 300 k. That night I met an SA girl I had met months ago. She had a really cute face but was a bit overweight. She came to my apt and we talked for a while. I'm sure I could have hit it, but I don't know I just wasn't feeling it. She was cute and looking back maybe I should have. I sent her home in a taxi and hit Santa Fe and walked all around to all the different clubs. Seemed quite dead for a Friday night. And it was cold too. I know from some of your posts you guys are like me. You like to talk to the girls and feel their vibe. ID rather find someone who is sweet and affectionate. They are out there. So after a few hours of bouncing around the clubs and streets I wasn't feeling anyone and I had had eaten well earlier so I wasn't terribly disappointed with the dead scene. I was about to leave when I found this really cute young and dare I say innocent looking Venezuelan Q T. I couldn't resist. She was so young and innocent looking. I session with her for 30 mil and really made little attempt to bang her. I can never get comfortable in SF short times or the upstairs of clubs. I just wanted to get a better feel for her vibe. She was sweet and a bit timid. We touched and caressed each other and bc it was late and I felt she had a sweet vibe I told her to come back to my place for an hour. She agreed for 130 mil. Ok a bit high but it was late and I figured what the hell. We went back to my place and we had a really nice session. I brought a heater down with me and she loved it. My little partner wasn't very cooperative bc she was a bit timid but we whatever she was affectionate and we hugged and kissed for an hour. It was sweet and I'm alright with that. She got a text to meet her sister for another gig and she bounced. I took her whatsapp but never saw her again. Alright. Back to the first Venezuelan girl. We did meet the next day. And it was well worth it. She walked into my airbnb gave me a deep DFK and immediately pulled down my shorts and took me in her mouth raw. Unbelievable. Anyway, we had an amazing three hours. I couldn't believe how affectionate this chic was with me. Sorry to disappoint, I'm not going to go into the details but let's just say full GFE. She would BBBJ a little, We would bang a little, rest a little, hug a little, kiss a little, bang a little repeat. As I said, I don't release, so I am able to go for a while. If I were to drop my load, ID be done for. Out of business. Eventually I did of course after the three hours of amazing action. And actually I feel that it was a mistake. My experience with Ayurveda and other eastern systems of medicine is that your immunity is tied to your ojas aka your seed retention. In addition to keeping me strong for my next session, it might have kept me strong against the Rona. But I digress. Next session was that night with a Tinder girl. She was asking 200 k for three hours. Well I thought it was kind of high but something told me go for it. And I wasn't disappointed. She was a 23 your old QT. Hot, tight body. Really sweet and charming. We actually had quite a stimulating convo before moving into the bedroom. She was quite adept at BBBJ and stimulating the gonads. Again I didn't want to spooj but this little girl had skills. I couldn't resist. I asked her if I could bust in her mouth and she agreed. Nothing better than that. So I let it go. Phenomenal. Next day I woke up a bit inflamed in my joints and wanted to get a good massage. I bring down high quality massage oils and wanted to get a rub down. I mentioned that I was looking for a good massage to this Venezuelan girl I was chatting with on Tinder and she said she does massage. I actually wasn't looking for sex, I was looking for a massage and I made that clear. She came over and gave me a great massage. She was very good. But I did hear her coughing and she seemed to be coming over a cold, so I suspect she got me sick, but honestly who knows. I do know its really contagious and can get you fast within less than a day. But I didn't really pay it much mind. She was cool and I invited her to lunch. After lunch we walked around La Candelaria which seems to be pretty happening on Sundays. We had a few drinks and a nice afternoon. We agreed for her to come back and spend the night for 100 k. So we went back to her place and got all her things. She rented a room from strangers, so I think she was glad to hang with me in my place. She brought a joint back with her and we took a walk and smoked it. Big mistake. I should have known better. We actually didn't have sex that night. We both got pretty stoned and passed out when we hit the bed. When I woke up, I knew I was in trouble. I had that feeling in my chest I've felt a thousand times when I start to get sick. And not the first time it happens after I smoke week. I get a pretty bad flu or upper respiratory at least once a year, more so when I smoked more often, which I rarely do these days. And I know how it starts. Its not the first time I felt that. Its not uncommon for me I had brought down a pound of vitamin see, elderberry, zinc and Vit d. I have been successful with this warding it off but not this time. I didn't think it would be Rona.

[Guerinto]

If you go to Bogota from Toronto, please make a post on your return. Thanks.

I'll report on my experience. I researched what I need to do, but I fully expect incompetence. Based on Zeos1's post, it seems like a shitshow. Hopefully then will be more organized when I travel in August.

[Osiris69]

I have sweet chica that has a bday soon and I wanted to do something, but she lacks a govt ID most decent hotels will accept.

I was thinking of just renting a hotel room with a pool for a few days (4-5) for us? Either indoor or outdoor? And I suggested inviting a few friends and family over for a small gathering at the pool.

Is this possible in Bog?

I'm guessing its possible in CTG or MDE, but I looked on booking.com for BOG and don't see sheet.

BTW I'm not looking for any crazy expensive resorts.

If you're both in Bogota, perhaps Melgar or Girardot? It's been ages, but did something similar with an ex-GF and friends years ago. Think it was about a 2 hour bus ride from BOG. We just rented a house that we had to ourselves that had a pool. No reception or anything like that. If I'm not mistaken, Melgar is called the swimming pool capital of Colombia they're so common.

[Zeos1]

If you go to Bogota from Toronto, please make a post on your return. Thanks.

Getting out of Toronto is relatively easy. You would only have to supply whatever information Colombia requires.

Getting back in is a nightmare. The arrivecan app gets used once. Someone checks it is valid. But you fill out information about 5 times. Immigration, screening, Covid testing, etc. Etc. Don't know why they can't use the same information at each step. Say from the ArriveCan app. But they don't. May help if you also download the Corona testing app. Don't know what it is called, but filling it out as you stand in line really sucks.

And then, as a fully vaccinated person coming back you would think they might let you know what you need to do or don't need to do. But after an hour of filling out forms, being interviewed, setting up apps, getting tested. You walk out in a daze without a real clue what you can or cannot do. And the only good thing is that they don't usher you to a quarantine hotel. I had to research what was expected after I got home. Basically they treat everyone as if they are subject to full quarantine, and let you figure it out if you aren't.

[Woodman09]

I just left santa fe for a quick 2 day work trip and it's completely normal there. Jesus is probably watching govt news and getting scared, like a lot of colombians do when the marches happen, they stay inside. Bogota is completely fine, just a bunch of leftists and college kids marching down carr 9 and la 7 every once in a while. Jesus is cool but he almost made me cancel my Cali trip with his updates, I ended up going and had the time of my life, even during the first paro, i posted a report in that thread

Every body has a diff risk tolerance I suppose, but for mongers it's totally live and normal. nobody follows the curfew or really gives a shit about the happenings in centro, life goes on

Civil UnRest Dang-er Danger-- LOL, who knew? I have not noticed a thing.

On another note, I showed guys around SF Monday and Friday last week. Good Times-- I have to write more later. Went last night Off the Hook.

[JohnnyWalker55]

Jesus Reports:

Bogot is on high alert, I mean the police and the army.

The authorities are in the congress including the "most excellent" president as

Helicopters fly over the main cities.

The Congress is the place of the transmission of an annual summary of what was done by this "magnificent" government.

I just left santa fe for a quick 2 day work trip and it's completely normal there. Jesus is probably watching govt news and getting scared, like a lot of colombians do when the marches happen, they stay inside. Bogota is completely fine, just a bunch of leftists and college kids marching down carr 9 and la 7 every once in a while. Jesus is cool but he almost made me cancel my Cali trip with his updates, I ended up going and had the time of my life, even during the first paro, i posted a report in that thread

Every body has a diff risk tolerance I suppose, but for mongers it's totally live and normal. nobody follows the curfew or really gives a shit about the happenings in centro, life goes on

[Igor54]

Hi guys.

Like the title says, have any of you Canadians gents traveled from Toronto Pearson Intl via Air Canada direct to Bogota? I see Colombia has no restrictions for entry other than filling out the CheckMig form and installing the CoronApp. Returning to Canada, it looks like I need a PCR test taken less than 72 hours before my departure and to use the ArriveCan app to upload my information. I've got both my vaccinations and shot #2 will be in me almost 1 month before I leave, so I am fully mRNA vaccinated. I've got my paper receipts and also backed up digitally in various places, including my phone. Already installed the CoronApp for Colombia and the ArriveCan app for my return to Canada. I've not had Covid to my knowledge and I have never been tested.

My big question is are there any requirements to get on the Air Canada plane in Toronto? I'm a frequent traveler normally, but this is my 1st Covid trip, so I am nervous about what I don't know. I don't want some obscure thing screwing up my trip. My online research has produced mixed results, but nothing specific to Colombia.

I appreciate anyone sharing their experience so far. I plan on sitting on hold tomorrow while I wait to talk to Air Canada and get the rule (s) from them. Their website and chat bots were not helpful. I did search for "Canada" in the Bogota forum and the most recent post was February. A lot has changed since then.

If you go to Bogota from Toronto, please make a post on your return. Thanks.

[Trim1]

The curfew I read about was for like tanker trucks and shit. It is in the article that Trim posted.

There is a mobility restriction (restriction de movilidad) for certain kinds of vehicles in Cundinamarca, but if you read a bit further in the article, you'll see that there are also curfews (toques de queda) in Popayan and el Valle del Cauca. The mobility restriction for vehicles and the curfews are scheduled to end tomorrow, July 21, according to the article.

[Mr Enternational]

There is no curfew whatsoever here at this time.

The curfew I read about was for like tanker trucks and shit. It is in the article that Trim posted.

En el departamento de Cundinamarca se expidió un decreto que regirá desde el 19 de julio a las 6 am hasta el 21 de julio de 2021.

Restricción de movilidad a vehículos que distribuyen gas propano.
Restricción de movilidad a vehículos que movilizan escombros y materiales de construcción.
Restricción de motocicletas con "parrilleros" (o acompañante)
Ley seca en establecimientos abiertos y en espacios públicos.

[World Travel 69]

Jesus Reports:

Bogot is on high alert, I mean the police and the army.

The authorities are in the congress including the "most excellent" president as

Helicopters fly over the main cities.

The Congress is the place of the transmission of an annual summary of what was done by this "magnificent" government.