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08-25-19 13:41 #7275
Posts: 1137Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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08-25-19 11:37 #7274
Posts: 1065Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
Obviously can't lump all people from a country in one basket.
As of lately, the coolest girls I'm meeting in Colombia are the Venezuelans.
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08-25-19 10:59 #7273
Posts: 54Wow just amazing.
Well you're making me want to take this trip to Bogota.
Really enjoyed the write up.
Hope I can get this success like you did.
Maybe I can meet up you some time next month.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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08-25-19 09:19 #7272
Posts: 3202Originally Posted by Santrago [View Original Post]
I have been with Asakira twice. She is a 21 year old Venezuelan stripper who I think is at least a 9 and moves like a 10. I did TLN for $100 with her one night in my hotel. I saw her back at Troya and went upstairs with her. The sex was again unfucking real, and this time I paid around 70 k or $20.
After being with Asakira and talking to Woodman and the ISG member, I really saw no reason to go to any of the Chaperino spa places, casas, or high end clubs. It seems like a complete waste of money.
Routard's guide to Colombia is one of the best pieces I have seen written on this site, and I have read it two or three times. He did a great service to the forum with his guide.
We headed out to the clubs he mentioned in primer de mayo, and I don't think either of us were all that impressed. There were much more aggressive men pushing you into the clubs than in the Santa Fe area, and while the female: male ratio on a Saturday night was way better than Santa Fe, the prices weren't all that great. We were quoted 40 k for a show or lap dance, 100 k, and were told by one girl that she doesn't do shows. In Santa Fe, I paid 20 and 25 k for shows. Maybe if you found a great gal in primer de mayo, it would be worth going to, but I thought Santa Fe was safer, cheaper, and better.
I have been using Colombian Cupid, Latin American Cupid, and seeking arrangement to find regular women or semi-pros and it has been a lot of work, but it has yielded some very pleasant experiences. If you want GFE+++, that is the way to go.
When I was here and in Medellin a decade or so ago, I wasn't that impressed. The Colombian women appeared to be very scared, and I couldn't for the life of me get any one of them to kiss, give BBBJ or do GFE+++. I think what has changed at least for me has been using the google translator. Even though I only speak a little Spanish, I have been able to communicate with these women using GT with no problem at all, and that fear is gone. I can see why guys are so crazy for Colombian women now. They are really tender, loving, sweet, and good hearted. I still think the Brazilians overall perform better, but the Colombian women have made me feel much more special. They love to please their man.
Yeah, there are the idiot foreigners who have way overpaid some women and once a woman is paid a ton one time, she thinks that she is worth that from then on. I had one woman who wanted $300 for an hour, one who wanted $500 a day and went down to $400, and finally, an English speaking Colombian who wanted $700 for a whole day. I couldn't believe the women asked for this much and there are guys out there dumb enough to pay it.
I came to Colombia to find an intimate, sugar baby type relationship with a woman who has the potential to grow into more than that. I was hoping to find one prospect, and I have found three so far, and the trip is only half over.
I also found an amazing 19 year old swimsuit model who is kind of half of a sugar baby. I really don't know what term to use for a woman who fucks for money but won't fuck just anybody for money. The best I could come up with is sugar baby escort. Anyway, I invited her to Cancun and asked if she could find one of her modeling friends to come with her for a friend of mine. She was thrilled with the suggestion. She sent a picture of her friend and I asked that she bring her along the next time we met. She asked me, "Oh, you want to do a threesome?" That wasn't my intention but I wasn't going to say no.
It has been an amazing trip for me, and all I can say is God bless Colombia. If you can't have fun here, I am not sure you can have fun anywhere.
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08-25-19 08:10 #7271
Posts: 3202Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
Let me ask you and ME this question then given your incredible "knowledge" on Venezuela.
Venezuela has larger oil reserves than Saudi Arabia so why is Saudi Arabia a rich country and Venezuela a poor one?
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08-24-19 23:10 #7270
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
The whole "all Venezuelans" stuff is pure garbage.
I haven't had experience with all Venezuelans yet. I guess I have some catching up to do. I did have experience with 1 Venezuelan. The first 2 times I was trying her out as a webcam model. She had potential. If she'd known some English, she would have done well. The third meeting with her she said she didn't want to do the webcam, but she would be happy to earn the money making it up to me. We spent about 2 hours just talking, working into a bit of foreplay, which became an excellent, long session. If I wasn't busy with everything else, I'd have gotten around to a few more dates.
Plenty of time went by and she hit me on Whatsapp. Chatted a bit. Told her my current situation, she told me hers. After that she checked in a few more times. Never asked for anything, never mentioned any problems.
Hit her up again in June, to let her know I'd be back in July. She was in Venezuela, but hoping to get back to Medellin before I arrived. No request for money, no sob story. Told me what she was working on and that was all. Once I was on the ground I checked in again and learned she hoped to be in Medellin while I was there.
She arrived, let me know and we set up a date to see a movie. I paid for a coffee. I offered to pay for a beer, she declined. I paid for the movie and I had my taxi drop her where she's staying, on my way home.
The next day she called to ask for a favor. I was expecting she would finally ask for money. Instead, she asked if she could use the apartment to take some pictures. She showed up, paid her own taxi and I took some pics and video of her. We chatted for a while. I wasn't feeling a strong urge to get her into bed, she wasn't feeling it either, so I walked her out, flagged down a taxi and said goodbye.
We're still in contact. When I return, we'll probably get together again. Maybe another movie, maybe dinner, or maybe she'll be spending the night with me. The one thing I'm certain she won't do is turn into a gold digger.
She also seems to have had no problems learning capitalism. She's been paying her own way. When I met her for the movie I had to wait while she bought a new Samsung A50 at the Claro store. She even offered to pay for the coffee.
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08-24-19 20:34 #7269
Posts: 35Bogota Sunday and Monday night
How's the scene in Santa Fe and Chapinero on Sunday and Monday night?
Going next week but only have time those nights, 9/1 and 9/2.
Santa Fe is always better not alone, so looking for a wingman. I want to try la 49 as well given the recent good reports.
I'm young and like to party / drink, I'm fluent in Spanish.
Hit me up if I'm Bogota those dates.
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08-24-19 19:25 #7268
Posts: 412Tall man / cucuta
Originally Posted by TheTallMan [View Original Post]
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08-24-19 18:16 #7267
Posts: 15905Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008 [View Original Post]
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08-24-19 17:15 #7266
Posts: 407Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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08-24-19 16:49 #7265
Posts: 9Hello ISG,
Last night was a very fun night, we went to Pasarela Club and had a very fun moment, prices are as the regular clubs in Santa Fe, but this club is in 49 and Caracas, there are three more clubs.
The amazing thing of the night was discovering the night club Fourty Nine, because it is awesome, I would say that is the best club I have been in Bogota, it has really nice VIP section, nice very nice girls, and a lot of other places inside it that it makes you feel that you are not in Bogota, well I hope you have the opportunity to come.
Johny V.
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08-24-19 16:09 #7264
Posts: 3202Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
The sad part is I can today see an American politician read the above story, stroking his chin saying, "Hmmm, not a bad idea."
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08-24-19 15:28 #7263
Posts: 3202YK,
I get you guys are trying to be helpful, but the cynicism you and me show towards women is pretty incredible. I don't regret my relationship with my fiance it all. There is something to be said for wanting to lay in her arms all night versus just fuck, the special way a woman in love looks at you. I have been cynical too. I didn't think I could fall in love again, didn't think it was in me to want to be monogamous with someone again, but I did. We were together for 2 years. What broke us up was that she didn't understand how free markets were. This company she "worked" for was very slick, but that is all they were, and she, being from a socialist country, fell for a multilevel marketing scheme that I doubt she would have fell for if she lived in a capitalist country. People from Venezuela are different because of what they have been told, what they have seen, and you can talk to the average Colombian about Venezuelans, and they will share their views which are practically identical to mine.
It's different than when the USSR fell and Russian women stormed the scene in the late 1990's. Those women were kept in the dark, but it is similar in that Venezuelans have to learn the rules of capitalism. They come from a country where they see people eating out of the trash, leaders who derided capitalism but stuffed their pockets full of cash. The American Dream doesn't exist in Venezuela. If you work hard, had a long term perspective, and provided solutions in the market place, you were a sucker. The government would steal you blind. The people who got rich in Venezuela are / were self serving drug dealers and thieves. That affects people. My gal thought this multilevel marketing shit was going to make her a millionaire, and she didn't tell me about it because she knew I was cynical of it. She still believes that she will be rich doing it BTW. I shouldn't have put the stuff in there about seeing another man. I think it was more about how she was hiding who she was from me that made her sexually frigid in the end. And you guys don't get this part. Both our families were cynical of our relationship and when they saw us together, they wanted it to work out. It wasn't just me who bought into the dream.
And the reason I posted my story was to warn people about Venezuelans. They ARE different because of what they have seen, what they have been told. I was concerned about losing my gal to another guy: a guy with rip roaring abs or one who gave her more cash. I never thought I would lose her to a con man.
I think what you guys ARE talking about is falling for a woman like this Santa Fe stripper I met. The best lay of the trip so far has been Asakira. She dances at Troya. Well, all the women move around the clubs down there, but that was the one club where we met. I invited her back to my hotel. She was up for $100 for TLN. I paid for the hotel versus in house facilities because she agreed to DFK and BBBJs OTC. She was so good in bed that a lot of guys would fall for her right there. Her BBBJ may have been the best I have ever had. The reason I am sharing her name is because outside of another roll in the hay, I am not interested in anything else with her.
I don't get the part about being with someone every day. For 18 months, there were no issues with me and my gal. If she were in a position where she could have come to the USA, it might have worked even better. I was giving her in a month what I paid a SB for a night with me. Paying for a USA Girl with her qualities for a week or two in Mexico would have cost four, maybe even five figures in the past. You can video chat for free these days and we did every week. Shit, half of the times I have bought an American woman a ticket for a trip, I have been stiffed. American women are scared of traveling for some reason. My gal loved it, and here in Colombia, every woman I have offered up a trip with has ate it up, and they have jumped at the meager amount per day I have offered. I probably am going to cut the offer in half and see what happens.
It's never easy to know how much to give. Steve Jobs said it was easier to make money than to give it away. It's tricky. You want to give enough so a woman can do anything but not enough so they do nothing. That is a paraphrased line from Warren Buffett, and I am skeptical of anyone who thinks they have the answer on how much the right amount is to give any woman.
Yes, I want to recreate what I had. I am not forcing love, but I want to be with someone with the potential for love. I am interested in seeing a Colombian woman for a week vacation and see what happens from there. The price is too high for quality American women. I had some of the best looking and best performing SBs you guys have ever seen: Bud Light girl, college cheerleader, a woman who was a dead ringer for a SI swimsuit model, but I never thought about getting serious with any of them. They all had a screw loose, and they want marriage for something serious. I know Hollywood talks of Romance and the hell of divorce is not talked about nearly enough. 50% of my income? Fuck that.
I have met and bedded several Colombian women now. Just because they are professionals does not mean they aren't hucksters, but it is cynical to think they are all hucksters. The best lay was the Santa Fe stripper, but the test time I had was with a 2nd grade teacher, and she was great in the sack. The woman loved sucking cock. In between her, who never even gave me a price tag, was an engineer asking for $400 a day and a lawyer who wanted $300. I kicked them both to the curb. The other one with potential for a vacation was a 19 year old who is a model / finance student. She is too young for anything serious, but she would be fun to hang with for a week. And I have more lined up. It's been a busy week.
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08-24-19 14:33 #7262
Posts: 5636Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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08-24-19 12:00 #7261
Posts: 174Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]