Bogota Reports

[Elvis 2008]

Many Venezuelans have huge health issues because 1) they have those useless Cuban doctors over there

So they are actually a much bigger disease risk than Colombians. And I"m not even just talking STI's I'm talking shit like polio, smallpox, etc. Caveat emptor.

To a person, every Venezuelan I have talked to says the Cuban doctors in Venezuela were bad, much worse than the Venezuelan ones. I was surprised because I thought Cuban doctors were decent.

As to diseases, you have a point, but you just named the diseases wrong. The irony is that my ex's room mate got mumps, and I was able to pay for her to get vaccinated and she had only a mild case. Obviously this isn't an option for many Venezuelan refugees. FWIW, mumps can be transmitted via contact, sexual or otherwise.

Venezuelan girls may not be ETHICALLY better or worse than anybody else but there is one crucial factor not to forget.

If anyone can tell me the difference in economic culture between a strip club and Venezuela / a Venezuelan, I would appreciate it. A short term transaction with a stripper or Venezuelan girl has the potential to be fun even better than a nonstripper or Colombian. But investing long term in a stripper or in Venezuela / a Venezuelan has been and should be expected to be a disaster. Neither has appreciation for the long term. Investing in Colombia or a Colombian woman long term IMO has at least the potential to be profitable.

So a Venezuelan leaving for Colombia is like a stripper leaving the club. I think it is a mistake to assume that the Venezuelan economic culture / stripper culture is not still a part of the woman. You really don't know what you are going to get. To just assume that a Venezuelan in Colombia is worthy of the same level of trust long term as a native Colombian is IMO a big mistake. It is undeniable that Colombians have seen how long term investment has paid off whereas Venezuelans have not.

[GeneHickman]

You guys can get sand in your vaginas all you want. The fact is that the medical system in Ven is so bad that diseases that have previously been eradicated are coming back. And there are thousands of documented cases in hospitals all over Colombia. Including smallpox and polio.

Feel free to ignore my advice and get sick. I won't give a damn.

I give the Ven girls a pass here in Bogot and am happy with my decision. Colombian girls turn me on more anyways and are much more interesting and tend to be way cleaner. You do you.

Fake news and propaganda. Indeed brother you do you. But don't write shit without backing it up.

[Confiable]

You guys can get sand in your vaginas all you want. The fact is that the medical system in Ven is so bad that diseases that have previously been eradicated are coming back. And there are thousands of documented cases in hospitals all over Colombia. Including smallpox and polio.

Feel free to ignore my advice and get sick. I won't give a damn.

I give the Ven girls a pass here in Bogot and am happy with my decision. Colombian girls turn me on more anyways and are much more interesting and tend to be way cleaner. You do you.

I guy who speaks knowingly without facts. Shouldn't be allowed to speak on a site like this. A person like this will continue to speak with ignorance.

[John Clayton]

... Including smallpox and polio...

This is false. Smallpox has been eradicated (in the wild, on Earth) since 1980. There are only three countries where poliomyelitis is still endemic: Pakistan, Afghanistan and Nigeria. It is possible that an infected person could reintroduce polio to Venezuela given the low vaccination rates; however, it has not occurred.

[Bango Cheito]

My friend, you are spreading false information.

1) There is no problem with the training of Cuban doctors. Maduro has managed to use the Cuban doctors for political ends (as he has with everything) forcing them to withhold medical treatment from political opponents, but it is incorrect to blame the doctors themselves.

There is a huge problem with under vaccinations for preventable diseases in Venezuela, and there is an epidemic of measles (as there is in the US) and diptheria, but not poliomyelitis or small pox. Diseases just don't drop from the sky. They have to be brought from somewhere. Smallpox was eradicated in 1980.

You guys can get sand in your vaginas all you want. The fact is that the medical system in Ven is so bad that diseases that have previously been eradicated are coming back. And there are thousands of documented cases in hospitals all over Colombia. Including smallpox and polio.

Feel free to ignore my advice and get sick. I won't give a damn.

I give the Ven girls a pass here in Bogotá and am happy with my decision. Colombian girls turn me on more anyways and are much more interesting and tend to be way cleaner. You do you.

[Confiable]

Venezuelan girls may not be ETHICALLY better or worse than anybody else but there is one crucial factor not to forget.

Many Venezuelans have huge health issues because 1) they have those useless Cuban doctors over there 2) they come here with no health insurance and the government here doesn't do a damn thing to check them out as they cross the border.

So they are actually a much bigger disease risk than Colombians. And I"m not even just talking STI's I'm talking shit like polio, smallpox, etc. Caveat emptor.

What a bunch of BS lies you are making here. I've been to Cuba plenty of times and meet people from other countries who are training to be doctors in Cuba. Cuban doctors have excellent training. Keep your personal vendettas or hatred of another country to yourself. Definetly not wanted here.

[John Clayton]

My friend, you are spreading false information.

...1) they have those useless Cuban doctors over there...

So they are actually a much bigger disease risk than Colombians. And I"m not even just talking STI's I'm talking shit like polio, smallpox, etc. Caveat emptor.

1) There is no problem with the training of Cuban doctors. Maduro has managed to use the Cuban doctors for political ends (as he has with everything) forcing them to withhold medical treatment from political opponents, but it is incorrect to blame the doctors themselves.

There is a huge problem with under vaccinations for preventable diseases in Venezuela, and there is an epidemic of measles (as there is in the US) and diptheria, but not poliomyelitis or small pox. Diseases just don't drop from the sky. They have to be brought from somewhere. Smallpox was eradicated in 1980.

[Bango Cheito]

Venezuelan girls may not be ETHICALLY better or worse than anybody else but there is one crucial factor not to forget.

Many Venezuelans have huge health issues because 1) they have those useless Cuban doctors over there 2) they come here with no health insurance and the government here doesn't do a damn thing to check them out as they cross the border.

So they are actually a much bigger disease risk than Colombians. And I"m not even just talking STI's I'm talking shit like polio, smallpox, etc. Caveat emptor.

[Bango Cheito]

Are you a promoter for this Forty Nine Night Club? No offense, but you sound like a paid promoter.

He probably is. But I will say this. 49 is open all the time and it's still got action when everything else is dead.

It has gotten hella expensive though. My favorite is still PH, hands down.

[Bango Cheito]

This makes me think of something I encounter with chicks. What does culture have to do with anything? In my opinion shit. I am always taken aback when a chick says you don't understand because you are not from my culture. Or this is not working because we are from different cultures. As if being from the same culture makes everything peechy keen.

I then ask, well what happened with your last boyfriend. He cheated on me, or he was an abuser, or he didn't show me enough attention, etc. But aren't you from the same culture? Works the same way with religion. They want a guy that is Christian. But wasn't the last mf that was beating on your ass and cheating on you Christian? I think I am too logical for many people.

P. S. I did get an MBA in International Business because I like to study different cultures. But I have found that when male-female relationships are concerned, except for a couple of customs, cultural differences really play no factor. You can see this when people in the military go all over the world marrying people from different countries. That corporal in the Army can not say kiss my ass in Korean, but he and his wife and their 2 kids seem to be getting along just fine.

It's definitely true that relationships are fucked up whether you're from the same culture or not. But I think that in order to play the game properly, you need a good understanding of the local culture as there are a lot of indicators you can use to predict behavior.

[Bango Cheito]

Well said. I think time is needed to get in good with a girl from any culture other than your own. I once had a great LTR with a Peruvian / Costa Rican mix, but that's only because she came up to NY for college and we had the time to get to know each other (and I had time to learn culture and Spanish).

I believe what you've said to be true for girls from Bogota, Medellin, Cali, Cartagena, ect, but as someone who has lived and traveled a lot in Colombia, I'm curious to know your thoughts about girls from smaller towns, or even remote areas like Mitu, or Inirida. I certainly haven't been everywhere in the country, but the out-of-way places I have been to, I've found girls to be a little hesitant at first, but then very interested and receptive to foreigners that have a grasp of Spanish and interest in their culture. In my opinion, it's easier to develop a LTR in lesser visited places. What's your opinion on the subject?

They can be more naive but I think it wears off quickly, unless you're willing to live the small town life with her wherever she is.

[SamPeter71]

Thanks for sharing great report on SA. I am planning to go Bogota some time in Sep. Started looking at the girls listed at SA and many of them are really hot.

What is typical donation for these girls on SA. Do they expect long term relationship or open for short term?

I have been on SA on and off for close to a decade. When I first started, I was stunned at the beautiful and somewhat normal women I got from the site. Eventually, I got tired of the transactional nature of the site, and strippers and hooker types polluting the site asking, "How much?" What was once a much cleaner pool had become soiled, so I went abroad.

The response rate in Colombia was amazing, but I saw Brazil and Argentina may have potential as well. Anyway, the women I met in Colombia sent me back to SA and the good old days and in some ways better than the gold old days.

The last date I had in Colombia was a cute medical student who didn't even know what an arrangement was, but once I explained it to her, she was good with doing one. The more experienced women spoke English, would ask you to pay for an Uber or cab, and were pretty up front about a price. Unlike in the USA, about 75% of the time we were doing the deed on the first date but the Colombian women were not as hardened overall as the American ones. One took a bus for over an hour to see me. I mentioned the ripoff artists, but one woman tried to give the amount we agreed upon back to me, and another made the point it was not about the money and didn't even look at how much I gave her..

[Elvis 2008]

I have been on SA on and off for close to a decade. When I first started, I was stunned at the beautiful and somewhat normal women I got from the site. Eventually, I got tired of the transactional nature of the site, and strippers and hooker types polluting the site asking, "How much?" What was once a much cleaner pool had become soiled, so I went abroad.

The response rate in Colombia was amazing, but I saw Brazil and Argentina may have potential as well. Anyway, the women I met in Colombia sent me back to SA and the good old days and in some ways better than the gold old days.

The last date I had in Colombia was a cute medical student who didn't even know what an arrangement was, but once I explained it to her, she was good with doing one. The more experienced women spoke English, would ask you to pay for an Uber or cab, and were pretty up front about a price. Unlike in the USA, about 75% of the time we were doing the deed on the first date but the Colombian women were not as hardened overall as the American ones. One took a bus for over an hour to see me. I mentioned the ripoff artists, but one woman tried to give the amount we agreed upon back to me, and another made the point it was not about the money and didn't even look at how much I gave her.

I never thought I would see women better orally than Brazilians. In my experience, Brazil has Colombia beat technique wise, but several times, I had to ask the women to stop so we could go at it. They loved sucking cock and were good at it. This was the opposite of the Chris Rock joke where American married men get the same lazy ass blowjob. "The woman does two licks and asks 'is it hard? Put it in. I got laundry to do. ".

Every woman I met was either a professional or studying to be one. From what I recall there was a Medical student, 2 law students, lawyer, teacher, a few engineers, banker, accounting student, international relations student, professional translator. They were all Colombians except one woman who was half Colombian and half Venezuelan.

I went onto to the escort sites for pricing. I looked at the women and compared them to the reasonably priced escort sites and offered up what I thought would be the equivalent rate of one hour to similar looking escorts. Most the women stayed for multiple hours though, there were MSOG, and even though the Colombian government was pushing condom use hard, I had my GFE++ experience with all of them. All the women asked to see me again, so I am sure that I could have gotten the prices with some of them even lower than I did. Still, I had a budget for fun on the trip and didn't even use it all up.

It seems like half the time I have mentioned price on a forum in the past some nimrod thinks he could do better. If that is your game, head to Santa Fe. I got my brains fucked out there for $20 and had good times for $10. I was looking for more SB and less hooker, and I got what I wanted.

If any American woman today on SA had less than 20 partners, I would call them out for lying their asses off, but many of the women I met in Colombia were very nervous. Like I said, they had to have an arrangement explained. The two women I met in Baranquilla I am sure have seen dozens and maybe three figures of guys, but Bogota was much different. Many had been in long term relationships, and I was stunned at how few partners the women had when I asked. The reason I asked was because the women were showing me the little things that less experienced women do, and I asked after the deed was done. No doubt more experienced women will flock to SA in the future, but for now, the pool was pretty clean. What I saw were pretty normal women who just needed some extra cash like I saw with SA in 2009.

I am not sure what I am going to do with my finalists. Keep them all in some way, cut the number, or wean the pack down to a single winner. I was hoping for one, possibly two decent SB candidates. I never dreamed I would end up with five. Colombia has been berry, berry good to me.

[Elvis 2008]

This one works as a bill collector at a bank and makes $300 a month. She was great, definite SB material. Fluent in English. https://www.seeking.com/member/bc993...4-fc6ba636fa9e.

I fell in lust with this girl just based on her picture and went to Baranquilla just to see her. She was hot, showed up late, rushed out, and everything was covered. https://www.seeking.com/member/48f7e...d-b2383e1cdc8e.

She offered to come to Bogota for $500 per day. I told her no. Fluent in English. Engineer making $600 a month.

First girl I saw may have been the most striking: https://www.seeking.com/member/f8773...e-3134b8e88181.

She is 19, a model, tall, sweet as could be, and would look good on anyone's arm. If you want a just plan fun and hot SB, she is the one. It's crazy I am giving this one up. Not much English though.

Another pretty nice girl here too: https://www.seeking.com/member/2c12e...e-0a682c432dbb.

She was 22, doesn't show teeth in her pics because they are chipped, nose is a little crooked, but she is thin, fit, and tight. Nice but not incredibly sweet. English was not good.

This one was a total waste of time. https://www.seeking.com/member/54209...6-e2da4afa6936.

She was smart but heavier than her pics, wanted $300 for an hour with everything covered, and gave me some sob story about her dad. She is a law student. Poor English.

If you are the intellectual type and need a hot healer, Sandy may be for you, but she isn't cheap. She wanted $800 for the day and for the right guy she could be worth it. In top 3 I saw in terms of looks. Fluent English. Used to live in NYC. https://www.seeking.com/member/2ff19...d-35185c76e55f.

Chloe was cool. Great English. Very Fit, fashionable, tight but her body was kind of shaped a little weird. SB material for sure. https://www.seeking.com/member/e9ed7...8-a2bd933dbf5c.

Other ones I am keeping to myself, but I had a helluva week! Thanks for all those who helped make this trip such a success.

[Kazeu]

Hello ISG,

As always, Monday was pretty much slow, but like I always say too, there is a lot of fun in Bogota. You must come to Fourty Nine Night Club, I would say that it is the best here in Bogota.

Johny V.

Are you a promoter for this Forty Nine Night Club? No offense, but you sound like a paid promoter.