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  1. #10973

    Thursday to Saturday in Bogotá

    First night I arrived to my Airbnb and checked in. Headed straight to Santa Fe and ran into a older favorite a Vennie with tattoos but man can this girl twerk it on you and push it back. Later that night Hooked up for one hour with another Vennie with a soft squishy fake booty and tiny body at Fiebre sex. Had a great one hour session with her. Day two I met up with a girl I usually see and talk to all year on what's app had a great 5 hour session at my place. Later that night I went back out earlier this time around 8 pm. Troya was still good at this time of night had a few drinks and stopped in paisas club. It had been going down bill since years past but ran into another girl from the past with a squishy butt who rode me great jumped at the chance and had another great session. Later that night at Fiebre I couldn't choose and it was getting late so I took the hot Vennie upstairs for another hour. Got some pow and had a great hour of non stop sex. She was loving it and kept going back for more. I could feel her multiple orgasms and woke you to bruises on my arm from her tiny hands squeezing me. Saturday my final night I went back and manage to try another girl at Fiebre it was ok and then ran into another old favorite and had two sessions for 1. 5 hours and finally came to a blowjob.

    Tried the mezzanine twice both times I found nothing special unfortunately would love to some other spots to try during the day.

    To sum it up Fiebre has best quality and service by far. Paisas was still really slow, troya is good from 7-9:30 pm. Venus and Atonis were disappointing this trip, maybe one cute younger chick in each.

    If anyone is staying at ibis museo you should try home burgers right across the street. Best burger joint in Colombia imho.

    All an all a great 3 days spent especially pre Christmas knowing each girl made some extra cash for Christmas gifts that week. It's like charity from my dick LOL.

  2. #10972
    Quote Originally Posted by Igor54  [View Original Post]
    What is the difference? How many girls do you need? There are 10 millions people in Bogota. All kinds of girls. Is it not enough? Or do you think that non-pros are staying in the line and waiting for your arrival? Anyway you need to do the job and look for a girl. When you are searching on social media, you are talking to an avatar not to alive person. The rest is what you have imagined in your head. If she say "I am not pro" How can you check that? Any experienced woman can make a show for you and say to you what you want to hear. She will say you that you are the second man in her life, and your sex is the best in her life and you are the best man she saw in her life including Hollywood movies. And most men buy this bullshit from their wives, GF, sugar BB, prostitutes, etc.
    You're right. In fact we are in Colombia and in Colombia you can have true love only if you pay. I can assure you that in some other countries this is not the case. I am old and have visited almost the whole world. If you go to some parts of Asia you will find 20-year-old girls who really fall in love with you. An example?

    When I was in the Philippines (but not in Manila), I talked to a girl online for 4-5 days and she fell in love with me. She absolutely wanted to meet me, but I didn't like her. She told me that she would do very bad things about her person if I didn't meet her, because she couldn't sleep anymore just thinking about me. So I promised her that I would meet her the same day, but only for 30 minutes and not in my apartment. When I met her in a park near my apartment, she was so happy that she was bursting with joy from every pore of her skin. I made her really happy just to have met her in a park. Fortunately, there are corners on earth that give you the feeling that people really love you.

  3. #10971
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Exactly LL! I am glad Doncarlos is going back out there so someone knows how to use SA right. I am afraid it has been ruined, and I wonder if I ever should have posted about it.

    Your profile and pics should leave no doubt in anyone's mind you are a prize. Where you stay, how you dress, how you converse should all show that you have class, intelligence, and money. There should be no doubt in the chicks mind if she performs well, she is going to be compensated. That she has to ask for money is a mark against her. Even then, I would give a range, maybe put in a dig "the best sugar babies I have ever had did not ask for money. They were smart enough to know I would care for them" and say that is not a promise because you value beauty, intelligence, and honesty (and you have been so disappointed in some women).

    I will pay you 300 cop for sex locks you in. If you have to talk money, give a range and be non-committal. Maybe even offer a tiny amount for time and travel. Once she comes to your place, you are in control or you should be.

    I might as well do the consent form thing and why it is so bad. First off, you are giving up control. You are telling the woman she is in control when it should be the other way around. Second, rape laws are very different in the Latin world than the American one in terms of how they are enforced. The women are much more likely to say they fucked you and you did not pay them enough than say they were raped. Third, sugar relations are based on trust, and you are starting off with mistrust. Sure, I hide or lock up my wallet when I see hos but SBs? I leave my wallet out with them like I would a friend, and that should be your goal when using SA.
    You speak like a class teacher with high school students.

    #1 Any woman online has a goal = to get married, or immigrate to USA, or get some money, or find a sugar daddy, etc. And most likely her goal is not suck your dick in the hope that you'll pay her.

    #2 It is your subjective opinion that you control the situation, most likely she is trying you = what she can get of you. You should study website statistics. There are 100 times more men than pussies on dating sites.

    #3 what if she say that you raped her or tried, despite of your "most likely" . By default, if she files raping, police has to close you. And you cell mates, don't like gringos who rape their sisters, GF, and just any Colombian women. Now try to guess what they do.

  4. #10970
    Quote Originally Posted by BangoCheito  [View Original Post]
    For non-pro, definitely Cali.
    What is the difference? How many girls do you need? There are 10 millions people in Bogota. All kinds of girls. Is it not enough? Or do you think that non-pros are staying in the line and waiting for your arrival? Anyway you need to do the job and look for a girl. When you are searching on social media, you are talking to an avatar not to alive person. The rest is what you have imagined in your head. If she say "I am not pro" How can you check that? Any experienced woman can make a show for you and say to you what you want to hear. She will say you that you are the second man in her life, and your sex is the best in her life and you are the best man she saw in her life including Hollywood movies. And most men buy this bullshit from their wives, GF, sugar BB, prostitutes, etc.

  5. #10969
    Quote Originally Posted by Conick2000  [View Original Post]
    What part of Africa were you at? I spent a lot of time I Kenya. I would suggest trying Bucaramanga. It was less Americanized.
    I know Uganda well. Kenya is similar Uganda but more expensive.

    You have more experience in Colombia than I do, but it comes naturally to me to think that even Cali is not very Americanized and also has 4 times more inhabitants than Bucaramanga so with many more opportunities. Maybe am I wrong?

  6. #10968
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesLover  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    In your opinion is it better Bogota or Cali to meet regular girls and to take them to bed easily? For a young guy any Colombian city is good for fucking regular and beautiful girls, but not for old men. Jajajaja For this reason I am asking for info from people who know and have been to both cities.

    Thank you for your pleasant info.
    For non-pro, definitely Cali.

  7. #10967
    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    I always get kick out of the ill informed neophyte know-it-alls with 3 years experience. They are lecturing when they should be listening to members with decades of experience.
    Exactly LL! I am glad Doncarlos is going back out there so someone knows how to use SA right. I am afraid it has been ruined, and I wonder if I ever should have posted about it.

    Your profile and pics should leave no doubt in anyone's mind you are a prize. Where you stay, how you dress, how you converse should all show that you have class, intelligence, and money. There should be no doubt in the chicks mind if she performs well, she is going to be compensated. That she has to ask for money is a mark against her. Even then, I would give a range, maybe put in a dig "the best sugar babies I have ever had did not ask for money. They were smart enough to know I would care for them" and say that is not a promise because you value beauty, intelligence, and honesty (and you have been so disappointed in some women).

    I will pay you 300 cop for sex locks you in. If you have to talk money, give a range and be non-committal. Maybe even offer a tiny amount for time and travel. Once she comes to your place, you are in control or you should be.

    I might as well do the consent form thing and why it is so bad. First off, you are giving up control. You are telling the woman she is in control when it should be the other way around. Second, rape laws are very different in the Latin world than the American one in terms of how they are enforced. The women are much more likely to say they fucked you and you did not pay them enough than say they were raped. Third, sugar relations are based on trust, and you are starting off with mistrust. Sure, I hide or lock up my wallet when I see hos but SBs? I leave my wallet out with them like I would a friend, and that should be your goal when using SA.

    When you meet her, you interview her. STFU and listen. What are her needs? What is his personality like? What were her previous relationships like and why did they fail? How much free time does she have to meet with you? Passport? Likes to travel? How does she feel about marriage? Kids? What is her family like? Why is she on the site?

    I asked my current gal why she went to bed with me so quickly, and she said, "You understood me more in 10 minutes than most people do in a lifetime." That is from studying personality type, a huge plus in figuring women out.

    Most of the time just my questions and observations alone have the women creaming in their pants. They look at the food, the wine, the hotel, the company, and are saying, "Man, I want this. " The reason SB sex is so much better than ho sex is why women suck your dick. With ho sex, it is I will suck his dick but only for $100. With SB sex, it is "I really like this guy and the life he can provide me, I want to suck his dick so well I get to be with him more often. " Money is a minimum motivator for people not just for sex but with most everything.

    Maybe you are interested in one who does not get it right away and you go into "I had this one SB and she was great. After two years, she was so good, I had to get her the boob job she always wanted. " I really only had to go into my total spiel twice. It was funny. One woman asked before she left, "Can I have some money? I really kind of need it. " Now that is a good SB line.

    Being my SB is a great gig, and I expect women to behave as such. That is why I say to the amateurs: up your game or just see hos.

  8. #10966
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    15 years ago in the 21st century? Of course things are going to be different. 16 years ago I was finishing up grad school and one of my classmates told me about The Facebook. You only needed a university email address to sign up. Now Facebook is for anybody and everybody to assert their agendas, sell their products, and anything else under the sun.

    If you have managed to master Spanish over those last 15 years then you should have no problems. I don't! I am older and fatter, but still spit the same game with even better results. And I do not give money to chicks that are not hookers.
    Haha, not bad.

  9. #10965
    Quote Originally Posted by Guerinto  [View Original Post]
    I checked in about 5 AM, so I was alone. Room reserved for 2, as usual. I went to my room alone and had a 5 hour sleep before she came over. I met her downstairs and we went our for dinner. Coming back, I walked with her to the elevator and we were stopped by security just as I pressed the call button to go up to my room. She was dressed like a lady, nothing overtly sexy, so her attire was not an issue. It was cold (for her), so she was covered up. We went to the reception and checked her in officially. They took a copy of her cedula and that was that. No drama, no fees, no issues.

    What I did find really odd is how did they know? It was different staff at night. Both reception and security. It was my second night at the hotel so I was not known to the new staff. After that, I was never asked to check her in, so they must have known somehow.

    My curiosity is how could they have known she was not checked in? It would be pretty embarrassing for them if they stopped us and it turned out she was already checked in. Not a big deal, but it made me wonder how we are being watched at this hotel..
    I like that you brought 3 women back no problem at Ibis. I was wondering if they were still good with visitors. It is nice to know they are.

    I do not know if you saw on the Medellin forum where Paulie and Mr. E were talking about wearing shorts. Paulie said you are a target if you wear shorts and Mr. E said that was dumb; they can tell you are a foreigner and know when you are a monger when you bring back loads of women to your hotel. I honestly thought Paulie's comment was off because I have people speak English to me before I have said anything. Even if you speak Spanish, there are different accents. Point is that most people know we are mongers.

    I have hotels call me after a girl leaves and asks if everything is okay all the time. So I think hotels mark down when someone comes in and out even if they do not call you though. Then you see enough women if you work there and you would recognize their faces. How many hos are there realistically at Santa Fe? 200? When you see them come in and out all the time and stay an hour or so, you know. Also Colombians can pick out not just American and Venezuelans easily but lower class Colombians.

    But honestly you can tell just from the way a woman is with a man and how she carries herself. I kissed my ex-fiancé good bye and the cabbie said I had a pretty GF. I thought why say GF and not think ho? Then I realized he could tell by how she looked at me and kissed me.

    I had one woman and put her on the reservation but she dressed so ho like the manager charged me for her because I had brought in other women before her. He did not want to have his hotel be a ho hotel in Medellin, and she looked like one.

    On the other hand, I was dating someone that without me even naming her, she was able to get the hotel to give her a key. She also was able to get management to escort her up, and they called delighted in telling me my GF was there. She grew up upper middle class and showed it. She was five foot and carried herself like everyone's favorite little sister and charmed the shit out of everyone.

    My current gal is five ten and has to stay aloof so as not to attract the attention of men. She gives off an upper class vibe when she talks but I could see how someone might think she is a ho if they did not talk to her, but you better not miss with her. She looks well connected (and is) so if you are wrong with her, your ass in a sling. Last thing any hotel would want is calling someone like her a working girl. No one has ever said anything to her but I have seen some questioning looks. Once she speaks or is seen with me, those questioning looks become smiles.

    Hell, one of the ways I knew a girl was SB or GF material was how the hotel reacted to her. Did the staff recoil or were they delighted at her presence? If hotel staff thinks she is a ho, there is a good chance everyone else will too.

  10. #10964
    Quote Originally Posted by Guerinto  [View Original Post]
    What I did find really odd is how did they know? It was different staff at night. Both reception and security. It was my second night at the hotel so I was not known to the new staff. After that, I was never asked to check her in, so they must have known somehow.

    My curiosity is how could they have known she was not checked in?
    Although you may feel invisible, they see everything. That is their job. I was just watching an episode of the cartoon Archer the other day. They checked in to a hotel in Japan and he was wondering how they knew so much about him and his uncle that had been there many times before. The receptionist told him that they see everything. So you are not the first to think you were not being seen when you actually were.

  11. #10963
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesLover  [View Original Post]
    I was in Colombia 15 yeas ago, in Medellin, Valledupar, Santa Marta. Yes I was younger and handsome and I got wonderful time. Girls were amable and never talked about mone. And they never talked about money and I got various interesting experiences.

    Two months ago I got a bad experience in Cali. I was there for more than 20 days and I saw and I got a completely different scenario.
    15 years ago in the 21st century? Of course things are going to be different. 16 years ago I was finishing up grad school and one of my classmates told me about The Facebook. You only needed a university email address to sign up. Now Facebook is for anybody and everybody to assert their agendas, sell their products, and anything else under the sun.

    If you have managed to master Spanish over those last 15 years then you should have no problems. I don't! I am older and fatter, but still spit the same game with even better results. And I do not give money to chicks that are not hookers.

  12. #10962

    Neophytes

    I always get kick out of the ill informed neophyte know-it-alls with 3 years experience. They are lecturing when they should be listening to members with decades of experience.

  13. #10961
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesLover  [View Original Post]
    I was in Colombia 15 yeas ago, in Medellin, Valledupar, Santa Marta. Yes I was younger and handsome and I got wonderful time. Girls were amable and never talked about mone. And they never talked about money and I got various interesting experiences.

    Two months ago I got a bad experience in Cali. I was there for more than 20 days and I saw and I got a completely different scenario. If I talked to girls outside of Cali online, they were already trying to rip me off before they met me. I couldn't find even a white girl in Cali because everyone was giving me too much money. I only met a couple of black girls, one of them gave me a lot of fun. Colombia is disappointing me a lot. I don't know if there are better places in South America where girls treat their older friends better. I'm afraid I'll have to go back to Africa, where girls never ask for money, but I gladly give them.
    What part of Africa were you at? I spent a lot of time I Kenya. I would suggest trying Bucaramanga. It was less Americanized.

  14. #10960
    I was in Colombia 15 yeas ago, in Medellin, Valledupar, Santa Marta. Yes I was younger and handsome and I got wonderful time. Girls were amable and never talked about mone. And they never talked about money and I got various interesting experiences.

    Two months ago I got a bad experience in Cali. I was there for more than 20 days and I saw and I got a completely different scenario. If I talked to girls outside of Cali online, they were already trying to rip me off before they met me. I couldn't find even a white girl in Cali because everyone was giving me too much money. I only met a couple of black girls, one of them gave me a lot of fun. Colombia is disappointing me a lot. I don't know if there are better places in South America where girls treat their older friends better. I'm afraid I'll have to go back to Africa, where girls never ask for money, but I gladly give them.

  15. #10959

    I was showing someone the difference in quality. Of course he was closed minded

    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    Comparing Vegas and SA girls in Colombia is Apples and Oranges. Strip Clubs? Not me, I haven't been to a USA Strip club in ages, for all the reasons you layed out. You mentioned $100 USD, I hope you don't pay SA girls $100. I only payed $100 once and that was for a dupla. . Happy Hunting!
    Any high end stripper / SA girl / entertainer in any major us city is a waste of time. Expensive yes. Beautiful maybe, maybe not by comparison to Colombia. Ymmv pay $100 US, sometimes yes. It's my $. LOL but the value, time and GF experience is far beyond any concern about the $. YMMV.

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