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  1. #7721
    Quote Originally Posted by Raul11  [View Original Post]
    Gents,

    Need a help from you. Will be in Bogota next weekend. I rather play safe and will not fo to Santa fee. I prefer kind of contact bars. Also massage (full service) would be an option. Something close to parque virrey / parque 93? Appreciate any kind of help. You can also pm me. I prefer paying a bit mor but have a good quality and safe place.

    Thanks a lot gents and enjoy your game.

    Raul11.
    Mezzanines on street 104 carrera 15 north west corner. There are about 6 places and you might find someone to your liking.

  2. #7720
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenTrumpet  [View Original Post]

    I have some experience with SA in the USA and CDMX / Mexico, and comparatively speaking the SD thing is a bargain in Latin America.
    DT, I gave CDMX a try. CDMX Hotels are about double the price of Bogota and maybe 50% more than US. From a SD POV, women in Mexico wanted about double what I gave the Colombian ones and about half of what the ones in USA Wanted.

    Sexually speaking, I was really disappointed with all but one or two of the Mexican SB prospects. The Mexican hookers I saw were cheaper, better looking, and way better in bed, and I enjoyed hanging with them too. A buddy of mine told me Mexican women had been Americanized, and I saw what he meant.

    When it comes to pleasing a guy, I would say on average the Mexican woman does it twice as well as the average American woman though, but with the Colombian woman, I would say they are 4 X better on average.

    I tried CDMX out because it is cheaper, easier to get to, and CDMX has so much more to do than Bogota and the food and weather are better in CDMX as well. I do have a SB prospect there, and she is like a 7, a student, good in the sack, and cool to be with.

    But the two SB prospects I met in Bogota are a 9 and 10, way better in bed, and are professionals who are way more accomplished and intelligent. Given more time, I think I could have found even more gems in Bogota and Colombia. I think I would need to look at smaller Mexican towns to find the gems. The average income in Mexico City is actually higher than a lot of places in the USA.

  3. #7719
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You can try them out for $10 and if you like them, you can tell them you want to meet up with them later for genuine fun and company for $30, $40, or $50 all day.

    Great reports Elvis.
    Thanks, ME. What is your experience with the quality of character of the Santa Fe girls? The two I met were younger than I would like for a SB, actually not that great in the sack, but they were sweet and really working the streets because they were Venezuelan and had no options. Both were hooking to provide for their children. Woodman told me that unlike in the USA, a lot of the working girls in Santa Fe were normal, and that is what I saw too.

    I am kind of curious if you or the other guys here would actually be interested in dating a Santa Fe girl or maybe just having her as a SB type. I guess a better way of asking it is did you and the other guys here find these women worth hanging around for reasons other than just sex?

  4. #7718

    Usaquen

    Usaquen is too far North.

    As you can see on these maps, your best locations would be Central Chapinero or Zona Rosa (Chico).

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?h...715000005&z=13

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?h...960000004&z=15

    Quote Originally Posted by Allbiz1987  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone had experience with a casa or other space where weed was accessible via the girl or otherwise? Will be in northern Chapinero, closer to Usaquen, it's a short trip (two nights) and my Spanish is weak so I'm crossing my fingers there's somewhere I can walk in and satisfy both desires.

    AB.

  5. #7717
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenTrumpet  [View Original Post]
    .I think it makes sense if you're looking for genuine fun / company outside (in addition of course) of sex.
    But you can find that anywhere. All the girls in Santa Fe are not buffoons. You can try them out for $10 and if you like them, you can tell them you want to meet up with them later for genuine fun and company for $30, $40, or $50 all day. If it turns out you don't like a SB that you have promised $300 to before even meeting her, well...

    Great reports Elvis.

  6. #7716
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Jjbee, when is the last time you were in the USA? A top quality SB in the USA For me was going in the $300 to $400 per meet range, and it is probably higher in places other than where I live. So for $1200 in a month spent on sex, I can fly to Colombia and get it on with a SB type 8 X in a month plus airfare versus 3 x a month in the USA If you mix in fewer SB encounters and more Santa Fe hookers, the value is even greater. The big cost then is time not money.

    On top of that, law enforcement in the USA Is nuts now. There are hooker stings all over and even Robert Kraft, the billionaire owner of the NE Patriots, got busted. I am sure he is paying millions for his defense.

    And I can't emphasize enough how much more normal the woman in Colombia I met were on SA than in the states. I am not saying that Colombian women are all good and American women are all bad. Probably the two best purely sexual encounters I had in Bogota were from the Santa Fe strip clubs, but they were the type of women I am used to here: bad habits, not terribly educated, and after I was done sexually, I was ready to leave..
    I'm actually back in the US and am aware of the prices, at least per encounter. I've never had an interest in keeping a girl on retainer.

    I agree that looking for options in Colombia, or other countries, makes more sense than looking in the US, especially if you're past 45 and looking for girls under 25. If you put in time and effort it's not difficult to find an educated, employed 20 something who'll happily be by your side whenever you're in country and ask for nothing, provided you give her a lifestyle upgrade each time you're in town. Or you can find a working girl, who enjoys her work, willing to spend her nights with you for $50 a night and an occasional cheap gift. The advantage of the second option is she'll likely be open to the idea of bringing along one of her friends if you want.

    Unfortunately, there are also girls who will hit you up with an "urgencia, necesito plata" every week, and each instance she'll need more money.

  7. #7715
    At Elvis 2008 Thanks so much for the in depth reply.

    I have some experience with SA in the USA and CDMX / Mexico, and comparatively speaking the SD thing is a bargain in Latin America.

    At JjBee62.

    I think it makes sense if you're looking for genuine fun / company outside (in addition of course) of sex.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Jjbee, when is the last time you were in the USA? A top quality SB in the USA For me was going in the $300 to $400 per meet range, and it is probably higher in places other than where I live. So for $1200 in a month spent on sex, I can fly to Colombia and get it on with a SB type 8 X in a month plus airfare versus 3 x a month in the USA If you mix in fewer SB encounters and more Santa Fe hookers, the value is even greater. The big cost then is time not money.

    On top of that, law enforcement in the USA Is nuts now. There are hooker stings all over and even Robert Kraft, the billionaire owner of the NE Patriots, got busted. I am sure he is paying millions for his defense.

  8. #7714
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    The whole sugar daddy / baby thing seems silly to me. The only reasonable excuse, to me, if you're married and want to keep a side piece nearby and available for frequent hookups. If it's in another city, or on another continent, unless it's someplace you'll be visiting constantly, why bother?
    Jjbee, when is the last time you were in the USA? A top quality SB in the USA For me was going in the $300 to $400 per meet range, and it is probably higher in places other than where I live. So for $1200 in a month spent on sex, I can fly to Colombia and get it on with a SB type 8 X in a month plus airfare versus 3 x a month in the USA If you mix in fewer SB encounters and more Santa Fe hookers, the value is even greater. The big cost then is time not money.

    On top of that, law enforcement in the USA Is nuts now. There are hooker stings all over and even Robert Kraft, the billionaire owner of the NE Patriots, got busted. I am sure he is paying millions for his defense.

    And I can't emphasize enough how much more normal the woman in Colombia I met were on SA than in the states. I am not saying that Colombian women are all good and American women are all bad. Probably the two best purely sexual encounters I had in Bogota were from the Santa Fe strip clubs, but they were the type of women I am used to here: bad habits, not terribly educated, and after I was done sexually, I was ready to leave.

    Yes, I have had American women give me a massage after sex, and it is usually 15 minutes maybe 30 once or twice. When I took a SB type to San Andres, she actually put body lotion in our shopping cart and when I asked her what it was for, she said to give me a massage. Every night after sex, she would give me a massage for an hour. I would have to tell her to stop. The first South American woman I had was in Argentina, and her massage was like an hour long if not longer. To me, it symbolizes how much more South American women try to please their man.

    I have met 3 potential SB types from South America that I have wanted as GFs, which is way more than I ever wanted in the USA The conversations with the South American women are more intelligent; their habits are not as bad, and their ambition is so much more.

    Even with all the fighting you and I had, you were right on two points. You have to give them no allowance and try to be with them as much as possible. Maybe if you were back in the US sex gulag, you would know why some of us aren't looking for SB or GF types in the USA IMO it has been a waste of time hunting for them here.

  9. #7713
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenTrumpet  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    For people with experience using seeking in Bogota / Colombia, are there any guidelines / tips you follow?
    In general, you will find that a lot of women in Bogota do use SA to ***** themselves out but IMO it was not as bad as the USA Still, I had some fun with the *****s masquerading as SBs.

    Clues to the ***** types are how expensive they dress, if they want you to send them an Uber versus paying their own way to see you, how quickly they are interested in leaving once you meet them, whether they want a price prior to you seeing them.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenTrumpet  [View Original Post]
    What's an average vs high ppm or monthly allowance?
    Outcall hookers go for the $80 to $100 range for the hour, and I paid that rate most of the time, but I got multiple hours. I went as high as $140 for two women who were the 9-10 types.

    First two women I met in Colombia told me their wages. A bank teller made $300 a month, and a civil engineer made $600 per month. I would never go over $300 per month, and even that, I do not think that is a good idea. I think you really want to be trying to convert the SB into a GF type relationship and not give her any money outside of what a BF pays for a GF or you are wasting your time. The character, sexual performance, looks, and kindness of the women I met in Colombia in my experience far exceeds what I got in the USA.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenTrumpet  [View Original Post]
    Are girls usually OK with sex / ppm on the first date?
    Yes, my time was limited and the women knew it. Only time I didn't have sex on the first date was by my choice, and I met eight SB prospects when I was there.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenTrumpet  [View Original Post]
    What does "luxury" mean to a girl here (e. G. In comparison to what an American would define luxury)?
    The luxury brands are the same in Colombia as they are in the USA For the most part, but the prices are about the same as in the USA, so the women tend to be more appreciative if you take them shopping.

    One woman who went by the name Luxuregirl took me to AndresDC, and it was great, but again, it was USA Prices for a fine meal. She always wanted to eat in restaurants in the zona rosa / Chaperino region. The hooker types always want you to go to the more high end places. The real SB / GF types will take you to their more moderately priced nice places.

    As for hotels, hotwire has a deal on a 5 star going for $42 per night: https://www.hotwire.com/hotels/detai...c0OTM1ODc3Nw--.

    For the most part, I stayed in 4 star hotels and paid on average $40 a night, and I would consider them luxury by Colombian standards.

  10. #7712
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    The whole sugar daddy / baby thing seems silly to me. The only reasonable excuse, to me, if you're married and want to keep a side piece nearby and available for frequent hookups. If it's in another city, or on another continent, unless it's someplace you'll be visiting constantly, why bother?

    However, a basic guideline, at current exchange rates, $1 USD buys about $3 worth of goods and services in Colombia. I would start with whatever you pay in the US and divide by 3. Start below that number and work up to it.

    It may help to know that minimum wage in Colombia is about 800 k COP monthly.
    Yup. And a very large portion of the populace makes that minimum wage with virtually no chance of ever exceeding it. Yes, the equivalent of $250 USD.

  11. #7711
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenTrumpet  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    For people with experience using seeking in Bogota / Colombia, are there any guidelines / tips you follow? E. g. What's an average vs high ppm or monthly allowance? Are girls usually OK with sex / ppm on the first date? What does "luxury" mean to a girl here (e. G. In comparison to what an American would define luxury)?
    The whole sugar daddy / baby thing seems silly to me. The only reasonable excuse, to me, if you're married and want to keep a side piece nearby and available for frequent hookups. If it's in another city, or on another continent, unless it's someplace you'll be visiting constantly, why bother?

    However, a basic guideline, at current exchange rates, $1 USD buys about $3 worth of goods and services in Colombia. I would start with whatever you pay in the US and divide by 3. Start below that number and work up to it.

    It may help to know that minimum wage in Colombia is about 800 k COP monthly.

  12. #7710

    Sa

    I generally offer 200-300 mil plus a few drinks / dinner beforehand and usually works out well. I speak Spanish and really not chasing the 9's+ so if you want to go there you're probably at 500-1000 mil. Biggest pet peeve is always late. I make it clear that I like people on-time and meet me at the airport!

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenTrumpet  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    For people with experience using seeking in Bogota / Colombia, are there any guidelines / tips you follow? E. g. What's an average vs high ppm or monthly allowance? Are girls usually OK with sex / ppm on the first date? What does "luxury" mean to a girl here (e. G. In comparison to what an American would define luxury)?

  13. #7709

    Casa / Massage with Weed

    Has anyone had experience with a casa or other space where weed was accessible via the girl or otherwise? Will be in northern Chapinero, closer to Usaquen, it's a short trip (two nights) and my Spanish is weak so I'm crossing my fingers there's somewhere I can walk in and satisfy both desires.

    AB.

  14. #7708

    Action close to parque virrey

    Gents,

    Need a help from you. Will be in Bogota next weekend. I rather play safe and will not fo to Santa fee. I prefer kind of contact bars. Also massage (full service) would be an option. Something close to parque virrey / parque 93? Appreciate any kind of help. You can also pm me. I prefer paying a bit mor but have a good quality and safe place.

    Thanks a lot gents and enjoy your game.

    Raul11.

  15. #7707

    Seeking

    Hey guys,

    For people with experience using seeking in Bogota / Colombia, are there any guidelines / tips you follow? E. g. What's an average vs high ppm or monthly allowance? Are girls usually OK with sex / ppm on the first date? What does "luxury" mean to a girl here (e. G. In comparison to what an American would define luxury)?

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