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  1. #12833
    Quote Originally Posted by Ukman57  [View Original Post]
    Having checked the prices at the agency you recommend leads me to believe you have more money then sense.
    I mentioned that this is a bit more expensive. You may not appreciate the high end indulgences from time to time, but I do. Some people are not completely dedicated to the hobby as much as others. I simply don't have the amount of free time to completely research everything so this is what I went with, then shared the experience with this community so they know what to expect. Your comment doesn't provide any value and suggests a self loathing insecurity. It's beyond me why you have disdain towards someone who took one for the team. Maybe strive for higher achievements in life so you have the money to play. I now have suggestions for next time I'm in town.

  2. #12832
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirec  [View Original Post]
    Steer clear of this agency its a scam, lasnenasbogota.com. The girl that showed up was +50 lbs heavier than the photo suggests. She was also nearly 2 hours late to show and didn't speak any English. When she knocked on the door at the motel, I was already ready to go and had some beer in me so we went at it. She did not have good hygiene and had a bit of an unpleasant smell down there, which is why I am not a fan of heavier girls. The few heavier girls that I have been with all have this similar odor that is appalling to me. I'm almost certain its something pheromone related that turns me off. She was not clean shaven, however, I've been with girls that are not shaven and they do not have this smell. In hindsight, I should of just left as soon as she arrived, because I cannot stand the heavier set girls since I cannot put them in reverse cowgirl for fear of breaking my.

    I don't know how to handle this specific situation. Would I just leave and tell her she is stupid for lying about her photos or just leave without saying anything?

    The love motel we were at is Motel Temptation. I can't recommend this place it is awful, nobody speaks English, and their WiFi does not connect out to the internet. I carry two phones with me and both connected to wifi, but did not get internet. The chica also said the receptionist was giving her crap when she got there.

    I can recommend this agency though, modelosalacarta.com. I got two smoke shows, showed up in person like the photos showed. Both were absolutely amazing and we did it in all positions and they were with me an hour and a half instead of the stated hour. It's a bit on the higher end expensive side, but I believe it was worth it. I should of repeated with this agency instead of trying a different one.
    Good report. But I would suggest that you should not really expect any English in your dealings with local agencies and chicas. Not sure why you would expect English. Especially in a local motel or from a local chica or a local escort agency. So stick to ones that advertise that they operate in English. You may find a few chicas that also advertise English. They will expect more money probably, but might improve your experience.

  3. #12831
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirec  [View Original Post]
    Steer clear of this agency its a scam, lasnenasbogota.com. The girl that showed up was +50 lbs heavier than the photo suggests. She was also nearly 2 hours late to show and didn't speak any English.

    I don't know how to handle this specific situation. Would I just leave and tell her she is stupid for lying about her photos or just leave without saying anything?

    The love motel we were at is Motel Temptation. I can't recommend this place it is awful, nobody speaks English
    Hardly anyone in Colombia speaks English, even at high end hotels. So it is unreasonable to expect escorts and love motel employees to speak English. It is a Spanish speaking country.

    I have never heard of these agencies, that's good one turned out to be legit. I recommend sticking with lacelestina and eroticasbogota, at least during your first few months in the city.

    I agree that Motel Temptation is horrible. When I was there, the power kept flicking on and off like a horror movie. It's worth spending the extra money for Secret Motel or Jardin Real.

  4. #12830
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirec  [View Original Post]
    I can recommend this agency though, modelosalacarta.com. I got two smoke shows, showed up in person like the photos showed. Both were absolutely amazing and we did it in all positions and they were with me an hour and a half instead of the stated hour. It's a bit on the higher end expensive side, but I believe it was worth it. I should of repeated with this agency instead of trying a different one.
    Having checked the prices at the agency you recommend leads me to believe you have more money then sense.

  5. #12829
    Quote Originally Posted by AddictedToWomen  [View Original Post]
    Difficult to go wrong at the mezzanine, though obviously your quality may vary. But it's safe enough.
    I once got BBFS there. But the rooms are very small and the table takes up most of the room. And the girls are cramped into one small hallway so they all creep on you before you get to the end room.

  6. #12828

    Scam lasnenas

    Steer clear of this agency its a scam, lasnenasbogota.com. The girl that showed up was +50 lbs heavier than the photo suggests. She was also nearly 2 hours late to show and didn't speak any English. When she knocked on the door at the motel, I was already ready to go and had some beer in me so we went at it. She did not have good hygiene and had a bit of an unpleasant smell down there, which is why I am not a fan of heavier girls. The few heavier girls that I have been with all have this similar odor that is appalling to me. I'm almost certain its something pheromone related that turns me off. She was not clean shaven, however, I've been with girls that are not shaven and they do not have this smell. In hindsight, I should of just left as soon as she arrived, because I cannot stand the heavier set girls since I cannot put them in reverse cowgirl for fear of breaking my.

    I don't know how to handle this specific situation. Would I just leave and tell her she is stupid for lying about her photos or just leave without saying anything?

    The love motel we were at is Motel Temptation. I can't recommend this place it is awful, nobody speaks English, and their WiFi does not connect out to the internet. I carry two phones with me and both connected to wifi, but did not get internet. The chica also said the receptionist was giving her crap when she got there.

    I can recommend this agency though, modelosalacarta.com. I got two smoke shows, showed up in person like the photos showed. Both were absolutely amazing and we did it in all positions and they were with me an hour and a half instead of the stated hour. It's a bit on the higher end expensive side, but I believe it was worth it. I should of repeated with this agency instead of trying a different one.

  7. #12827
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenKomodo  [View Original Post]
    Long time lurker and reader. In Bogota for a month and dying for some action. I hate to be this guy in a thread full of contributions but I'm new to pulling the trigger and don't feel so confident going to like the strip clubs and buying drinks etc. Any simple erotic massage places to start with?
    Difficult to go wrong at the mezzanine, though obviously your quality may vary. But it's safe enough.

  8. #12826

    Been Living in Santa Fe area for 10 yrs

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBowl  [View Original Post]
    Victimization and perception rate are the same across Santa Fe, Los Martires, Puente Aranda and La Candelaria.

    You can see the maps here: https://colombiareports.com/bogota-c...ty-statistics/.

    As for robberies specifically:

    La Candelaria.

    2020 robbery rate: 4,628.

    Los Martires.
    I am always vigilent and have had very minor crime problems living 2 blocks away from the redlight area-.

    But I know some would have different experiences as they are more prone to being robbed. Frisky Frank probably has a 00000001% chance because he is literally a giant man.

    Me I am actually an average guy but have lived in areas that are not so nice and am able to blend better? I guess or I am lucky-- knocking on wood.

    I think places like Tijuana and South Central Los Angeles and many major US cities are way more dangerous. It is just so much less predatory here IMO.

    On another note-- If any of the members are into silver coins or vintage comics, magazines, movie posters and other cool collectible stuff I know all the hot spots here in Bogota and have a nice inventory of things available -- I am attaching some photos-- I deal from here and have a lot of items in the California too-- I am a 20 yr on line seller.
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  9. #12825
    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    Taxi's are usually safe but you run the risk just that one time. If you do taxi, take a photo of the numbers on the taxi and the license plate and make sure he sees you doing this, then text it to yourself if need be and speak a message into your phone I'm in bla bla taxi, look at the card in the back seat pocket and say his first name so he hears you.
    LOL. Then it seems like you are setting him up! What if you got in and he took your picture, then starts whispering into his phone? Definitely overkill.

  10. #12824
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBowl  [View Original Post]
    Day 1:

    Went to Santa Fe twice, 11 am and 5 pm.
    I'd say you fell between two stools: you're about an hour early for the lunchtime trade in the clubs to start, and most of the girls who do lunchtimes want to be out of there before 5 to go collect their kids. I've had good experiences there starting around 12/13.

    Best of luck.

  11. #12823
    Maybe the danger element is why the pussy is so good in the red light district, chapinero, and barrios unidos. I love this city! Every day I wake up here feels like a gift. Thanks for giving Bogota a chance, I'm sorry you felt so uncomfortable and unsafe here. Let me know if you ever come back so we can get together, I would love the opportunity to change your mind about Bogota by showing you everything that I believe makes this city so incredible. Safe travels Jimmy.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBowl  [View Original Post]
    Victimization and perception rate are the same across Santa Fe, Los Martires, Puente Aranda and La Candelaria.

    You can see the maps here: https://colombiareports.com/bogota-c...ty-statistics/.

    As for robberies specifically:

    La Candelaria.

    2020 robbery rate: 4,628.

    Los Martires.

    2020 robbery rate: 4,641..

  12. #12822

    Stats for Los Martires

    Quote Originally Posted by FriskyFrank  [View Original Post]
    If we're going to get technical and throw out stats numbers, "Santa fe red light district" isn't even in Santa Fe. It's in LOS Martires. Santa Fe is the tourist area to the east and southeast of the red light district. More tourists. More money. More crime. Bless us with the stats for LOS Martires if you don't mind. I would love to know if it's more dangerous there than the tourist areas of Santa Fe and La Candelaria.
    Victimization and perception rate are the same across Santa Fe, Los Martires, Puente Aranda and La Candelaria.

    You can see the maps here: https://colombiareports.com/bogota-c...ty-statistics/.

    As for robberies specifically:

    La Candelaria.

    2020 robbery rate: 4,628.

    Los Martires.

    2020 robbery rate: 4,641.

    Santa Fe.

    2020 robbery rate: 3,821.

    Chapinero.

    2020 robbery rate: 3,296.

    Ciudad Bolivar (very poor slum with no tourists).

    2020 robbery rate: 601.

    Los Martires also has the highest homicide rate in Bogota. What a terrific place.

  13. #12821
    If we're going to get technical and throw out stats numbers, "Santa fe red light district" isn't even in Santa Fe. It's in LOS Martires. Santa Fe is the tourist area to the east and southeast of the red light district. More tourists. More money. More crime. Bless us with the stats for LOS Martires if you don't mind. I would love to know if it's more dangerous there than the tourist areas of Santa Fe and La Candelaria.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBowl  [View Original Post]
    (possible double-post, I was logged out when I tried to post and after logging in faced a blank screen).

    Thanks everyone for your comments, they are well intended, but many are not based on fact.

    It's time to pull some stats:

    https://colombiareports.com/bogota-c...ty-statistics/

    I couldn't find exact stats for the RLD area, so we'll use city and barrio stats.

    Barrio Santa Fe has a victimization rate of 40% (out of 1000), meaning 4% of the population in the tested time period have been victimized by crime.

    Of those victimized, 40% were victimised by armed robbery, by far the most rampant crime in Bogota.

    Source: Bogota Chamber of Commerce.

    As for security perception, locals have it very differently to ISG members, with 4% feeling secure, 10% feeling neutral, and 86% feeling insecure (2021).

    If you feel safe in Bogota, you are a minority.

    Source: Bogota Como Vamos.

    Homicide rate is lower than other large Colombian cities and of course lower than major US cities, if the US is your benchmark then you are battle hardened.

    Barrio Santa Fe has the 2nd highest homicide rate in Bogota.

    Back to armed robbery, Santa Fe scores #2 again. #1 is La Candelaria, which confirms that armed robbery is targeted at tourists.

    On a more personal note, my several armed robberies by gangs that seem to do it for a living had not felt that dangerous, mostly thanks to my calmness and compliance.

    The gangs that robbed me were very professional, they did the job in under 10 seconds and used the minimal amount of force and intimidation required.

    They never hit me and never yelled at me, it was always one guy with a gun or knife holding me in place, and the others cleaning my pockets.

    I'd rather be robbed by a gang than arrested by LAPD any day of the week.

    It's also worthy to mention that the gangsters were far better dressed than I was. I wear hiking pants full of mud stains and a cheap plain hoodie. Some of the gangsters were dressed like rapper want to-be rappers with branded NBA clothing, $200 sneakers, bright red hats, they looked more like a music video than a gang.

    Every time I was robbed was the same: I walked towards a group of "guys just hanging there", whether in slow and quiet streets or in the city center next to several police officers and in the midst of several hundred people, visibility does not seem to matter. I.

    With that said I'm going to Santa Fe now to get laid, or robbed, or laid and then robbed. I don't like my current phone anyway.

  14. #12820

    Stats anecdotal experience

    (possible double-post, I was logged out when I tried to post and after logging in faced a blank screen).

    Thanks everyone for your comments, they are well intended, but many are not based on fact.

    It's time to pull some stats:

    https://colombiareports.com/bogota-c...ty-statistics/

    I couldn't find exact stats for the RLD area, so we'll use city and barrio stats.

    Barrio Santa Fe has a victimization rate of 40% (out of 1000), meaning 4% of the population in the tested time period have been victimized by crime.

    Of those victimized, 40% were victimised by armed robbery, by far the most rampant crime in Bogota.

    Source: Bogota Chamber of Commerce.

    As for security perception, locals have it very differently to ISG members, with 4% feeling secure, 10% feeling neutral, and 86% feeling insecure (2021).

    If you feel safe in Bogota, you are a minority.

    Source: Bogota Como Vamos.

    Homicide rate is lower than other large Colombian cities and of course lower than major US cities, if the US is your benchmark then you are battle hardened.

    Barrio Santa Fe has the 2nd highest homicide rate in Bogota.

    Back to armed robbery, Santa Fe scores #2 again. #1 is La Candelaria, which confirms that armed robbery is targeted at tourists.

    On a more personal note, my several armed robberies by gangs that seem to do it for a living had not felt that dangerous, mostly thanks to my calmness and compliance.

    The gangs that robbed me were very professional, they did the job in under 10 seconds and used the minimal amount of force and intimidation required.

    They never hit me and never yelled at me, it was always one guy with a gun or knife holding me in place, and the others cleaning my pockets.

    I'd rather be robbed by a gang than arrested by LAPD any day of the week.

    It's also worthy to mention that the gangsters were far better dressed than I was. I wear hiking pants full of mud stains and a cheap plain hoodie. Some of the gangsters were dressed like rapper want to-be rappers with branded NBA clothing, $200 sneakers, bright red hats, they looked more like a music video than a gang.

    Every time I was robbed was the same: I walked towards a group of "guys just hanging there", whether in slow and quiet streets or in the city center next to several police officers and in the midst of several hundred people, visibility does not seem to matter. I.

    With that said I'm going to Santa Fe now to get laid, or robbed, or laid and then robbed. I don't like my current phone anyway.

  15. #12819

    You need to do what you feel

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBowl  [View Original Post]
    Nowhere in latam is safe, and Bogota is less safe than most of the continent. Check violent crime statistics and ignore men's restroom wall advice.

    Iv'e been here for a week now (and 2+ years in latam) and established what seems to be a safe operation:

    1. Take an uber straight to the club's front door, have sex inside the club, and then wait for your uber inside the club.

    This way you spend the evening past club security and not on the streets.

    2. For day game, get girls' phone numbers in advance and invite them to a safe motel, one that has security, checks IDs and is in a good area (not Santa Fe), this should cost 50 k instead of the 8 k you pay for knock-on-the-door places. It's also a good idea to have another person verify the girl's age.

    This is the advice I wish I was given a week ago.
    I Know every nook and cranny of the Parque 93 area and I still elect to call an Uber to take us 3 or 4 blocks to our hotel from the restaurants in Parque 93 after 10 or so. Taxi's are usually safe but you run the risk just that one time. If you do taxi, take a photo of the numbers on the taxi and the license plate and make sure he sees you doing this, then text it to yourself if need be and speak a message into your phone I'm in bla bla taxi, look at the card in the back seat pocket and say his first name so he hears you. He is required to have that card available for all to see, if not ask for it. You'll be just fine. It may seem like overkill but nothing ruins a trip like being mugged hurt or worse.

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