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  1. #12756

    Bogota Trip. Final Summary

    Finally got back yesterday, ended my trip watching the WC final w a new favorite local chica, didn't finish the game and listend to the extra time in taxi radio and finished at Airport lobby, people at the Airport were partying when Argentina won, which I'm glad also. What a great day and great finish!!

    So, started really w an Airbnb on the Northside for my 2 novias for 2 weeks, then final week split 3 days in SF area (San fran Hotel), then last 4 days in North / Chapinero area (H St Simon). Def enjoyed the Northside better since easier to go on dates w either non pros or locals. Zona T / G area. Lots of bars, clubs, restaurants w / in walking distance. Couple new strip clubs few steps / block away from the hotel, was 400 k for takeout so I passed on those.

    Bogota is very large and not everyone will enjoy it since everything is spread out. No centralized gringo spot, not a bad thing if you ask me. Look at the gringo crime stats for Bogota vs Medellin. Most of the crimes on gringo, 25 killd this year 2022 alone, all in Medellin. If there was any in Bog it's only a couple and not reported. But mde is insane right now obviously cause they all concentrate in one area and all pretend to be ballers. While Bogota is cold, not too pretty in sight for many areas, it has its value.

    After wifeys left, I did very little action in the SF area although none wrong with it, only knocked two down from the streets, was distracted being disappointed with new SA girl lineup since they all acted up wanted upfront payment, didn't want to waste their time or had ridiculous demands. Decided to close acct for now and focused on casas and new locals. Since my spanish is pretty decent this is now my new thing or going back to the basics.

    Didn't see many gringos in sight around the chapinero or north side at all so I stood out, especially as a brother. Lots of local Milfs and Milfs w kids stared me down when I go out, took advantage and started convos, even a hotel clerk, all curious about me asking where I'm from, blah blah. Kept numbers with few and had couple hang outs in beer pubs watching the games, lots of fun and made new friends.

    Had private meets in my hotel w several chicas from various casas incl Tantra, Absolut Spa, Rosquillas, Abejitas, at least 3 others w / in 5 minutes walking distance from the hotel) / Use the map. Had a surprisingly great massage from Avispitas spa, cute MILF, few blocks away from St Simon, turn left on same street Car. #14. And will be on a your left. Getting your fav chica whatsapp helps keep the hunting down to a min especially if you had a good time. Lots of miscinfo on here, pay no attention to the cheesy and crybaby complaints from Tantra for ex w peeps saying girls are charging extra for everything, lots of old hags blah blah. Went in there twice and was approx 10-15 each lineup of mostly young girls. The two I dealt with kept numbers of each and had repeat w them in my hotel. They askd for 40 k extra each only BBBJ and complete GFE. 1 HR was 80 k. So when I offered to come to meet me for 150-200 k, it was surprising for them as in a lot, and one stayed overnight LOL.

    Other action was meeting couple girls from PhotoP, arranged those in motels and used mostly Las Palmeras. They prefer to come after you've arrived and shared your live location and they'll join you LOL. 40 k for 4 hrs for the room, everything is too cheap to the point I wanted to donate wherever I went, my lunches were 14 k from decent restaurant near hotel, paid w 20 k bill and said keep the change LOL. Ok, I know we all decent gringos do that, but no matter how many time I go to Col I always appreciate when I get a good quality meal for $3. For me fancy restaurants or anything more are to impress my novias, anything else like on a daily basis I'm good w the $2 to $3 lunches otherwise what's the point of traveling if you don't experience the local's lifestyles? I'll take my fav wifey to Andres and happily spend 400 k, then put 500 k in her purse for each 24 hrs, and send her away with a smile and with my creampie juice dripping on her legs as she walks away, maybe a baby or twin was gifted too.

    It may be the Bogota market only that this happened, but due to my setback there with SA, I'm glad to being able to refocus on meeting real actual locals instead of only uncomfortable blind dates. I remember when I was very new I was thought the old school mongering style back in the DR; which I'm sure is the ground zero where most of us started. I met an older friendly gringo. I say older just to show respect since those fellas are always glad to share secrets of this hobby, especially when they see a young lost brother. I'd look stressed af, looking lost LOL, unable to sit still, horny like a mf w zero spanish. And each skillset that I gained was by either observing or straight schooled by some friendly fellow John. I still laugh at some of those till today, like when this dude told me hey man, all you got to do is sit down, relax, order a drink, and once a fav girl make eye contact just nod her over and she'll come LOL. Just that alone made a whole of diff on how I was moving. But the most remarkable schooling I got to get to the point was, a gent showed me how he walks the barrios, made eye contact to say Hello, to the parents once he'd noticed they had a cute daughter. He'd approach or they'd call, invite him for lunch or dinner, made a bed for him and introduce him to the daughter LOL. I was like gtfoh that shit doen't work. You're telling me the parents would fix your bed for you to fuck their daughter in the room next door w the tiny walls? Or sheet? Yup, I witnessed that shit later. And truly still today it's the real mongering style in my opinion. Hoping you save their daughtr from the slum, 18 yrs old but will have a better life / chance then staying w a local loser who'll empreggo her and run. We've turned mongering into mostly whoring, but man o man, aint nothing like being welcomed by locals, low mileage or fresh pussy, and the family want you in for obvious reasons (dollar, green-card, blue eyes, or just for curiosity and status).

    Anyone can go into a brothel and fuck, incl a blind and crippled squirrel. But I started traveling mainly for a new feel, new experiences, new relationships, to see a level of humility that you won't see ever back home, and that was fun till somewhere along the line I had forgotten that. By humility it also means my life changed for the better, I respect money a bit more when I see how others struggle or what they're willing to do for it, I now work harder and take less shit for granted. I'm sure we're all impacted at some level once merging in these sub-societies. The local relationships keep this mindset alive slightly, which is why I try and spoil the fuck out my fav ones, otherwise I could easily wander and get lost since I have so many options. (like my first day).

    I play around and call my local girls novias, wifeys, bc they've invited me to their homes, met their parents and siblings, invited me to parties, would have my back if in trouble, etc. If your local chica hasnt done that yet, then something's wrong or she a pro. Even few pros from this trip has invited to take me to their hometown, there's one I'm going to take the offer only bc that's an area in Col I wanted to visit anyway. So when something bad happens (Greedy SA putas), maybe it's time to refocus which I'm glad I did. Back to the basics. Imo we shouldn't focus on girls that only see you as money. I don't mind spending, but at least show some curiosity about me, attempt a friendship, and treat me as a human being, vice and versa. It's more fulfilling and less exploiting on both sides.

    Otherwise Fellas, let's keep the party going. Happy Holidays!!

  2. #12755
    Quote Originally Posted by MushElvii  [View Original Post]
    It's been sometime since last visit so feedback welcome.

    Which area is better for staying? T or G? Getting an apt for few SA girls.

    Hookup, need to pick a place which is closer to restaurants, cafes (where I usually meet them).

    Both areas got what's needed, so can't make up damm mind.

    Basically should I pick near Calle 72 or around 85. ?

    Never visited Parque 93 so was thinking to be in T area this visit but can take unbiased feedback 8.
    Personal preference, but I like Calle 60 to 65 area give or take a few Carreras from 7 Lots of love motels to walk to. Great access to Zona G / it is Zona G in lots of spots. But also has "real people stuff". Zona T is a little ritzy for me. But again, personal preference.

    There's a BBC around Calle 63 that is safe to meet at. Of course tons of other places. And San Sebastian love motel 4 minute walk. Better love motels on Calle 65 a right off caracus though.

  3. #12754
    Zona G is quieter, and has a lot of good restaurants. Zona T has more nightlife and just as many good restaurants. You can't go wrong with either area. Zona G is an easier walk to the cheaper brothels with cute younger girls. Zona T is an easier walk to the more expensive brothels with silicone girls. If you Uber everywhere none of that matters, except that traffic is horrible here leading up to Christmas. My inbox is open if you require more information, recommendations, or want to meet up while you're here.

    Quote Originally Posted by MushElvii  [View Original Post]
    It's been sometime since last visit so feedback welcome.

    Which area is better for staying? T or G? Getting an apt for few SA girls.

    Hookup, need to pick a place which is closer to restaurants, cafes (where I usually meet them).

    Both areas got what's needed, so can't make up damm mind.

    Basically should I pick near Calle 72 or around 85. ?

    Never visited Parque 93 so was thinking to be in T area this visit but can take unbiased feedback 8.

  4. #12753

    Zona G or T

    It's been sometime since last visit so feedback welcome.

    Which area is better for staying? T or G? Getting an apt for few SA girls.

    Hookup, need to pick a place which is closer to restaurants, cafes (where I usually meet them).

    Both areas got what's needed, so can't make up damm mind.

    Basically should I pick near Calle 72 or around 85. ?

    Never visited Parque 93 so was thinking to be in T area this visit but can take unbiased feedback 8.

  5. #12752

    Mezzanine

    Thanks for the info to everyone that replied. Will definitely check it out.

    PM sent also.

    Quote Originally Posted by JackTaggart  [View Original Post]
    Those are the mezzanines. Search that term and you will get good info. But it's as Luminous said. I've had fun with the girls on the last door too.

    Ive stayed at the damn Carlton but never brought a girl back. I get the sense if she was nicely dressed / normal cloths you could kinda rush her in. Not sure though. No dwcnear there best I can tell. Refer to the reports of distinction fourm for maps with cases in Chapinero. Santa Fe is sw scene.

    Pm me your WhatsApp if you want. There are a couple of us here now getting into trouble before an / or through Christmas.

  6. #12751

    Actually 2nd floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous  [View Original Post]
    Diagonally across the Dann Carlton Hotel is a multi-story retail plaza (3 maybe 4 stories). You will see small stores on the bottom floor. If you go the back side of the first floor, that's where the massage + pleasure parlors are. I normally go to the first door, that where my girl Leidy is. Tall, natural and cute, just the way I like it. They will tell you the price upfront.
    Up the outside staircase to 2nd floor.

    https://spapremiumcolombia.wixsite.com/masajes
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails mezz.jpg‎  

  7. #12750
    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous  [View Original Post]
    Diagonally across the Dann Carlton Hotel is a multi-story retail plaza (3 maybe 4 stories). You will see small stores on the bottom floor. If you go the back side of the first floor, that's where the massage + pleasure parlors are. I normally go to the first door, that where my girl Leidy is. Tall, natural and cute, just the way I like it. They will tell you the price upfront.
    Those are the mezzanines. Search that term and you will get good info. But it's as Luminous said. I've had fun with the girls on the last door too.

    Ive stayed at the damn Carlton but never brought a girl back. I get the sense if she was nicely dressed / normal cloths you could kinda rush her in. Not sure though. No dwcnear there best I can tell. Refer to the reports of distinction fourm for maps with cases in Chapinero. Santa Fe is sw scene.

    Pm me your WhatsApp if you want. There are a couple of us here now getting into trouble before an / or through Christmas.

  8. #12749

    Action

    Diagonally across the Dann Carlton Hotel is a multi-story retail plaza (3 maybe 4 stories). You will see small stores on the bottom floor. If you go the back side of the first floor, that's where the massage + pleasure parlors are. I normally go to the first door, that where my girl Leidy is. Tall, natural and cute, just the way I like it. They will tell you the price upfront.

    Quote Originally Posted by GasparLeMarc12  [View Original Post]
    I'll be staying near the Dann Carlton at 2 different hotels, Sheraton and NH, not sure if they are chica friendly. What's the best action for spas / casas (or even street walkers) near there?

    Many thanks. Arriving today and hoping to also link up with woodman.

  9. #12748
    Quote Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1  [View Original Post]
    The cambios must stamp any bill you get from them so that if you get any counterfeit bills you have proof that it came from them. If they don't stamp the bills that's a good indication it's fake. I got stung once from a cambio in the Parque 93 mall that I used many times and then one day a changed some money got in a taxi and the driver refused most of the 50's saying they were fake. I took them to the Casino in Andino mall and the machine wouldn't accept them. I went back to the Cambio and raised hell but he said I didn't give you those bills, where is my stamp to prove it. I was pissed but had no recourse always always get the bills stamped or don't accept them.
    This is great advice amigo! If they don't stamp your bills you should definitely refuse the transaction.

  10. #12747

    Best action near Dann Carlton

    I'll be staying near the Dann Carlton at 2 different hotels, Sheraton and NH, not sure if they are chica friendly. What's the best action for spas / casas (or even street walkers) near there?

    Many thanks. Arriving today and hoping to also link up with woodman.

  11. #12746

    ALWAYS make sure the cambio stamps all the bills

    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous  [View Original Post]
    Not disagreeing with you and what are suggesting is very possible. However, in this situation, when I checked the remaining bills in my pocket, I found more fake ones similar to the one's she returned. So clearly the girl wasn't switching my bills.
    The cambios must stamp any bill you get from them so that if you get any counterfeit bills you have proof that it came from them. If they don't stamp the bills that's a good indication it's fake. I got stung once from a cambio in the Parque 93 mall that I used many times and then one day a changed some money got in a taxi and the driver refused most of the 50's saying they were fake. I took them to the Casino in Andino mall and the machine wouldn't accept them. I went back to the Cambio and raised hell but he said I didn't give you those bills, where is my stamp to prove it. I was pissed but had no recourse always always get the bills stamped or don't accept them.

  12. #12745
    Quote Originally Posted by FriskyFrank  [View Original Post]
    I thought I would take a little time to give some information about where I exchange my US dollars for pesos here in Bogota. I consistently see reports about people exchanging at the airport and I believe that sometimes the rates are okay, but often they're far lower than you can get out of an ATM or a good cambio elsewhere in the city.

    A little known fact about cambios is that their rates are negotiable. If you ask for their rate without any context they'll give you the rate they would offer if you're just exchanging a single $1 bill. If you can give them more information about how much exactly you have, and what the denomination of the bills are that you want to exchange, they will typically give you an adjusted price based on the value of the transaction to them. The more money you transact at once, and the larger the denomination of the bill, the better your rate will be. Typically you can achieve a 1% to 5% increase on your exchange if you have $1,000 or more in $100 bills to exchange at once.

    Now, this is not the best place in the city to exchange money, but it is the best place in the city I have personally found to exchange money. It is called Avenida Chile shopping center on Google Maps. It is located at CL. 72 #10-34 in Chapinero. I'll attach screenshots of the google maps overhead satellite view. The reason I like this centro commercial is simply because there are about 8-10 cambios inside and they are all on the top floor. It is quite easy to go into every cambio and get their rates without having to traverse a large area or multiple floors. When I first got to Bogota on this trip I was able to exchange dollars above the officially traded rate. I believe I exchanged my US dollars for about 4% higher than the best rate I could find at the airport that previous day.
    Does anybody know of a place in Medellin to exchange cash that is similar to avenida Chile shopping center where many money exchangers operate in competition in close proximity to eachother?

  13. #12744

    Fake Bills

    Not disagreeing with you and what are suggesting is very possible. However, in this situation, when I checked the remaining bills in my pocket, I found more fake ones similar to the one's she returned. So clearly the girl wasn't switching my bills.

    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    At Luminous below on fake bills: This may have been a known trick. You have given the girl the real bills and she came back with fakes. Just a tip, occasionally I take photo shots of bills before I pay with them for services to avoid such situations, or other when the girl may claim I haven't paid her (in case of an argument police will find the bills on her).

  14. #12743
    At Luminous below on fake bills: This may have been a known trick. You have given the girl the real bills and she came back with fakes. Just a tip, occasionally I take photo shots of bills before I pay with them for services to avoid such situations, or other when the girl may claim I haven't paid her (in case of an argument police will find the bills on her).

  15. #12742
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    What a question, LOL.

    They're from the same lot. A mix of Vennies and Colombianas.
    I went to Medellin earlier this year, I fucked few facebook girls and I went to one casa. That's all, the street girls at centro medellin aren't that hot.

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