Bogota Reports

[Kazeu]

The places in SF will always try to rip you off for the Vat which foreigners don't have to pay. Hotels will try to do the same. Be aware.

I think technically if you have a 2nd guest in the room that is colombian, you do have to pay the VAT tax. Fortunately until the end of this year colombians are also exempt.

[Kazeu]

I agree with this. Especially if you could find an Airbnb on Kr 4 a -- very pleasant area with a lot of good restaurants / coffee / beer. That area is close to where I stayed = very convenient. Unfortuantely, I haven't sussed out how to get the exact address for an Airbnb before renting, and although the "Equiibrium" tower (directly on Kr 7 at calle 31) had a lap pool and a jacuzzi, it was kind of otherwise alienating and cold. A dozen good / authentic restaurants on calle 30 up the hill from La Septima; although, I think they may be just day time only. I walked up there with my veneca on Sunday about 7 -- all closed. Maybe that street is a few blocks north of La Macarena. Technically, I think La Macarena is completely within Santa Fe.

90 percent of the time I'll be renting an AirBnb in a condo building. I just ask the host the name of the building and then look it up on google maps. Easy.

[Mr Enternational]

She wants clothes in exchange for sex, is the same as wanting cash for sex. You either ask for the amount or set it yourself and tell her, or you allow yourself to be surprised on what she picks which is risky.

Yeah fuck that. A couple of years ago my nurse chick wanted a Nike jacket for her birthday. We went to the Nike store by Andino. That shit was like $100. I said never again. Even last time in Barranquilla my girl came straight over after work and we had to go to Exito to get her some clothes to wear to work for the next day. Clothes ain't as cheap as you think in Colombia unless you are going to some bargain basement store. Easier to just give the money.

[SpaceMonkey769]

Be in Santa Fe, if anyone fancies a beer let me know.

[Elvis 2008]

Which girl friendly 5 star hotel did you stay. Coming for work and looking for the same.

Marriott hotel near the airport. Not the courtyard but that is nice too. Very girl friendly. It is expensive now, but if you have points, they have always been dirt cheap with regards to points. Only 16,000 per night. Beautiful place. Indoor pool. Great restaurants. Netflix on the TV. Awesome gym. This hotel has the best food I have had in Colombia. For real. I have never had a problem with women wanting to leave that hotel early. They love it there.

[Mtljay]

Tried many online websites like Las nenas Bogota escorts but when you search for massage republic, you get babes from local SPs like this one! Or lacelestina etc. Have variety and fairly truthfull phtotos, Rates vary fro 55-110 usd depending upon what is on menu, anal or not etc. You multiply by 4500 soles for a usd! Most are petite short Some agreed for anal with extra rate, while all of them visited 5 star hotel for very comfortable experience. All had flat tummy, small (32) boobs except Gabriela which were 34 , ages were typically betwern 19-22. Tried Gabriela colombian white ,3rd is tanned brown Anny, from Massage republic Bogota, Gabriela, From LA Celestina, Beatriz cordoba 280+200 anal, not so skilled in anai as Annie who was best in her stout athletic body form with good coperation for anal!! Annie from Eroticas Bogota 200+ 150 but paid 500 for 1. 5 HR of anal only, athletic body brunette, cooperative, she twice came, hanna, white younger 19 yrs from same eroticas Bogota, and not so skilled in anal, paid only 250+ 25 + 25 for her innocence, she was really curvy but not that athletic as annie, and quiet immature! From same eroticas Bogota Lucia Came, anal was not sought to save money 220+ 25 + 5 tip.

Which girl friendly 5 star hotel did you stay. Coming for work and looking for the same.

[LatinaLover#1]

- Info from last year. Should still be the same.

- My friends and I went to a club during the weekday, about a mile north of Zona T. I'm guessing it was Olympia, but I didn't check the name. Regardless, all the clubs seems to be the same.

- We got there around 1 am on a weekday. Not that crowded. But at around 2 am, it got a lot more crowded.

- Some people say that the same girls who work Santa Fe work at these type of clubs. Probably correct in which the same type of girls work at both places. But I'm a half empty type of guy. IMO, the same type of marginal girls who work at Santa Fe (the best of Santa Fe) also work at the northern clubs. Most of the girls at that northern club were marginal. In my engineering Bell curve, I saw 1 girl who I would consider a 7, maybe an 8. Most girls were 6's. But those people who think that Pattaya Beach Road has 7's and 8's, will think that all the girls are 9's and 10's. More power to them!

- The base price of beers was 30 something. But they add a service charge and IVA (VAT? of 18 or 19% WTF? No bar / restaurant adds a VAT). Each beer was around 50 K.

- When you pay here, or the girls, or similar type of places, pay with exact change. We paid, expecting to get around 20 K or 30 K change, but waiter did come back for couple of minutes. My friends didn't care, so we left. Since we didn't care, shit like this will happen again.

The places in SF will always try to rip you off for the Vat which foreigners don't have to pay. Hotels will try to do the same. Be aware.

[GreenBud]

- There is a very cute girl on Carrera 16. As you walk from Calle 23 to Calle 24, one of the first places on the right as you past by the first bar. IMO, she is the best I've seen. I've seen her occasionally, during the day time. She is a brunette. She usually wears pants that she pulls down to her hips, not exposing anything though. She is 30 something; has a little baby damage, but hard to tell from far away. She was probably a 9 when she was 20.

- But a warning; she's a dud. Only a covered BJ. She was resistance for me to roam with my hands.

- The knock came at 7 or 8 minutes. Not an exaggeration. I timed it. When I complained, she gave me a smirk, in which I interpreted as, oh well, sucker. But around $10 for 7 or 8 minutes for an almost stunner is good from the US point of view. LOL!

- Note: To avoid the early knock, I usually get 1 hour. Even for 1 hour, you can get a knock at the 30 minute knock. The knock also depends on the girl. She can tell the person to give me the entire time period. Or if the knock comes early, she can tell that person to give us more time. Or the girl can suggest to go to another hotel that will give you the entire time period.

[MaddTraveler]

Got a girl who wants to exchange for clothes. Since I don't know the prices of clothing, how should I approach this. She wants shopping, should I just put a cap on a shopping spree? What have folks done when it's not money.

Thanks.

No one here can tell you what she's thinking. Just treat like you would treat any other hooker especially if she's the one who asked. That's a payment and an amount is needed, period.

She wants clothes in exchange for sex, is the same as wanting cash for sex.

You either ask for the amount or set it yourself and tell her, or you allow yourself to be surprised on what she picks which is risky.

Heck some guys won't even do that with non-pros or real GF, letting them think an unlimited budget. T.

He ONLY time I wouldn't set a limit would be if I offer instead of them asking, non-pros of course. But I would offer something specific like I'll take you shopping for a dress, or an outfit w matching shoes. Keyword is "a / an".

I've done that w some non-pros or my novias there, and usually would show me the item and I would approve or disapprove if it looks good but mainly after I look at the price LOL.

[JjBee62]

Tried many online websites like Las nenas Bogota escorts but when you search for massage republic, you get babes from local SPs like this one! Or lacelestina etc. Have variety and fairly truthfull phtotos, Rates vary fro 55-110 usd depending upon what is on menu, anal or not etc. You multiply by 4500 soles for a usd! Most are petite short Some agreed for anal with extra rate, while all of them visited 5 star hotel for very comfortable experience. All had flat tummy, small (32) boobs except Gabriela which were 34 , ages were typically betwern 19-22. Tried Gabriela colombian white ,3rd is tanned brown Anny, from Massage republic Bogota, Gabriela, From LA Celestina, Beatriz cordoba 280+200 anal, not so skilled in anai as Annie who was best in her stout athletic body form with good coperation for anal!! Annie from Eroticas Bogota 200+ 150 but paid 500 for 1. 5 HR of anal only, athletic body brunette, cooperative, she twice came, hanna, white younger 19 yrs from same eroticas Bogota, and not so skilled in anal, paid only 250+ 25 + 25 for her innocence, she was really curvy but not that athletic as annie, and quiet immature! From same eroticas Bogota Lucia Came, anal was not sought to save money 220+ 25 + 5 tip.

You might want to divide by 4500, currently by 5000, instead of multiplying. 200 k is $40. If you multiply, you get $900,000,000 USD, which is a bit out of most people's price range, even if anal is included.

[GreenBud]

- EVERY single waiter will scam the tourists. I don't think that is an exaggeration. Some are worst then others.

- Numbers are from last year. With inflation as high it is, it might have changed a little bit.

- My friends and I went to the strip club near Troya. We had 3 drinks. Waiter charged us 40 K. Way too much. Since my friend paid and didn't care, that waiter scammer will do it again.

- We went to Troya. We had a few drinks plus a drink for a girl. It seems the prices are the same for us and the girl. He tried to charge us 80 K. Since I was paying, and I cared (not about the money, but the principle), I went to the bartenders. They are usually honest. The price was 51 or 52 K.

- At Troya last year, the price for a Corona was 22 K. Some guy said the waiter charged him 40 K. Yes, you got ripped off.

- California seems to be the worst. Again a waiter attempted to charge me 15 K for a beer. A beer that probably was 6 or 7 K. I don't trust the bartender at California. The bartenders at Troya and Venus are honest. The waiters at Venus aren't that bad. They "only" tried to charge me 8 K for a 6 K Poker beer. LOL!

- I tip, but I hate to be scammed. I don't see locals tip for 1 beer. Is that the norm?

- I think the waiters get a commission for each drink they sell. Maybe 2 K? One method I tried is to tell them upfront, I don't pay 100% tip, but I will give a 2 K tip. Most / all waiters should be ecstatic for a 2 K tip for 1 drink.

[JjBee62]

Riding Transmilenio you need a card that you buy in station for 6-8 mil and then you charge it up-.

Sometimes I have forgot the card and payed another passenger to let me use theirs at the turnstyle.

It's about 3 mil to ride.

Not Crowded if you ride off peak-- Certain buses stop every stop and others are express and may go for miles without stopping-.

Usually the stops are listed by the designated door for that bus-.

Some buses are less crowded during rush hour sometimes 2 of the same bus will come close together.

There is musical and dramic entertainment sometimes-- Also Buy Candy!!

There are many routes going all over so you have to know where you want to go.

Going North on Carracas use buses with a be in them.

Going South from the North Autopista-- you want stops on Calle 19/22 / 26.

If you are taking the Transmilenio line Carrera 7 the stations near Santa Fe are SanDiego and Las Nieves.

A guy I know got robbed early in the morning at Calle 19 -- they robber climbed the platform-- but it was very desolate-.

I have gone all over and never had a problem-- Every ride is a scene out of Narcos.

Also there is an app with all you need to know. Search your app store for Transmilenio and SITP. It shows all the stations, all the routes, plus all of the SITP bus routes which go where the main lines don't. You can punch in the station closest to where you're staying and where you want to go and it will tell you which routes to take.

The Transmilenio also provides a couple of options. If you're staying near the airport, pick a hotel close to the Portal Dorado station. A short walk to the station and it's a quick ride to the Calle 22 station, no transfers or changing buses.

Or, if you're traveling light, get on the SITP bus at the airport for Portal Dorado, where you can catch the bus to drop you off close to your hotel. For example, Hotel Ibis Museo is right by the Museo Nacional station. No traffic, no taxistas, just a quick trip and you're ready to go.

One more hack. Pick a hotel or apartment close to the TransMilenio and you can almost completely eliminate the need for taxis.

My first time in Bogota I spent a few hours riding each of the lines from end to end. Midday most of the buses were nearly empty. You'll see a lot of the city and you'll notice a strange thing. Stores in Bogota are grouped together. You'll see 3 blocks where every business is a hardware store, or a bicycle shop, or a lighting store.

[GreenBud]

- Info from last year. Should still be the same.

- My friends and I went to a club during the weekday, about a mile north of Zona T. I'm guessing it was Olympia, but I didn't check the name. Regardless, all the clubs seems to be the same.

- We got there around 1 am on a weekday. Not that crowded. But at around 2 am, it got a lot more crowded.

- Some people say that the same girls who work Santa Fe work at these type of clubs. Probably correct in which the same type of girls work at both places. But I'm a half empty type of guy. IMO, the same type of marginal girls who work at Santa Fe (the best of Santa Fe) also work at the northern clubs. Most of the girls at that northern club were marginal. In my engineering Bell curve, I saw 1 girl who I would consider a 7, maybe an 8. Most girls were 6's. But those people who think that Pattaya Beach Road has 7's and 8's, will think that all the girls are 9's and 10's. More power to them!

- The base price of beers was 30 something. But they add a service charge and IVA (VAT? of 18 or 19% WTF? No bar / restaurant adds a VAT). Each beer was around 50 K.

- When you pay here, or the girls, or similar type of places, pay with exact change. We paid, expecting to get around 20 K or 30 K change, but waiter did come back for couple of minutes. My friends didn't care, so we left. Since we didn't care, shit like this will happen again.

[GreenBud]

There are many routes going all over so you have to know where you want to go.

I recommend you install the smartphone App "Moovit". Very good transport app in many countries around the world. Definitely good in Bogota and Bangkok.

Taxi from Bogota terminal (satire): he tried to overcharge at the dropoff. For 132 taxi units, he said it is 25 k pesos. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a fare conversion chart online. When asked for a fare chart that should be behind the passenger's seat, he said he forgot to bring it.

I recommend the smartphone App "Calculadora de Tarifas". It calculates the meter units to pesos. Plus the additional surcharges for night (2000), Telephone (800), Airport (4200), and Terminal (500 pesos).

The 132 taxi units should have been 11,200 pesos, without any surcharges.

[Intltvlr]

Bars and Meseros.

Guys quick update. I'm mid 40's and speak Spanish.

Texas and California does hire lots of meseros. They can seem overwhelming at times. I am super cool with them I actually helped one of them move to the US. And as cool as I am with all of them, I still don't spend much time on those 2 clubs. Unfortunately they are extremely mismanaged. And yes outside they can be annoying however once inside sometimes it's hard to get someone to get you a drink because they are outside being annoying. LOL.

My opinion is don't feel threatened by them or anyone else in a uniform from any bar. Unfortunately it's the culture there. It's extremely annoying at times and really unprofessional in my opinion. But when in ROME...

Also try to carry 10 mil bills when you go out to these places. Getting change there is a pain in the ass, specially earlier in the night. They don't have a cashier. The mesero is responsible to try to get you change. And if all you carry is 50 mil bills that can sometimes be a problem. The bad apples will try to see if you forget about your change. Or who even served you. Same applies to later in the night if you're drunk.

Many great bars have gone down hill due to bad management PAISAS and piscina the perfect 2 examples. They have great location and facilities. But no brains.

There are several new bars opening. There is a cozy one right by the entrance of California, on street level. I met the owner he seems to be doing things right. Should be a good place to watch World Cup games. Pink night club is far from being ready. And the black building where JOIA used to be is under construction as well. Except the guy who rented out the place and was remodeling it, is currently in jail. So who knows when that project will end.

Also. If you find yourself questioning why are all these places like this?? Why doesn't someone break the mold? It's because one lady owns most of the bars on the lower street. From ATUNES, VENUS, FIEBRE, TROYA, A'TONYS. Something like that. And yes California and Texas is the same owner as well. Also a lady. Her father left her the bares when he passed away a couple years ago. He seems to have been a well known and respected man in the neighborhood.

Hope this helps. Stay alert. Be respectful don't be a pushover, and don't make yourself a target by flaunting money around. And you can have a great time. The hunt is half the fun!