Bogota Reports

[TalkYes]

I've been going down there too much too, but I do get along better with the guys on 16 a much better.

I tip a lot of those guys but when they start acting entitled is the problem.

I get that life in Colombia is tough and I respect anyone with a job trying to make ends meet. Having said that, I fucking hate the guys that try to get you in the club and the guys who follow you into the club and expect a tip for standing behind you while you ordered a drink. Last night was my final straw and I don't know if I'll be going back to sf. I commented a while back kind of reeming a guy out for focussing on all the negative aspects of sf and none of the positive, but now I kind of see how they're inseperable. But these guys are what I hate the most by a longshot. Last night a guy followed me into a club, and so I turned back and left. Then when he wasn't looking I went back in. Then another guy in the club sees me and tries to pull the same shit. I told him "No necessito ayudar, yo puedo pedir una cervesa" and he kept following me, so I left again. He followed me into the street and yelled "FUCK YOU, MY FRIEND" jesus. It's not even having to tip them for nothing that bathers me. It's more so that I want to keep a low profile and I don't like them following me like creepers, acting like they are the reason I went in, not on my own accord. It's funny because those guys exist to bring people into the club but I bet for most people it has the opposite desired effect. Like in my case I don't even want to go back to sf because of all the people who claim to be "helping" me when all they're doing is drawing attention to me and wanting to be paid for it. Fuck that, I can't emphasize enough, fuck that. If there was a club that didn't have those guys, I would exclusively go there.

So yeah, I'm kind of over sf. As I said, the good and the bad are insepparable. Everone is bummed out because they work in such a ghetto place. Yes, there is one hot girl in the street for every 10 ugly ones, but they usually have a shit attitude and if you want more than basic mechanical service, it's no longer a good deal and you're better off finding someone better looking on mileroticos or somewhere else. The club girls are a bit better, but the clubs have their own problems like the one I mentioned, plus the obnoxiously loud electonic music and the waiting game of trying to get the attention of the girl you like without chasing her around the club like a lion chasing a ghazelle. Oh and another thing, unless you have a micropenis, bring your own condoms to the clubs in sf. The ones they give out will cut off your circulation. Not trying to flex on my dick size or anything but the session I had with a really cute venezolana in the club was pretty much ruined by this mistake.

Moving past the negative, I've met a girl on SA that I am basically making my main girl and trying to see her whenever she's available, she's fantastic. Not cheap but worth it. Had another not bad session with an SA girl. Had 2 sessions with girls from photoprepagos and both were very solid. One had kind of a shit attitude but I still really like her so much that I'm not going to share her info haha sorry. Was kinda worried that the photos or listings would be fake but they were not. Here is the other girl. She was 130 mil I think and 80 mil extra for BBBJ. Really great attitude and service. https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/e...cada/23221710/.

Going to Medellin soon. I want to see for myself which city is better. I've heard a lot of people say that Bogota is cheaper but I've also heard that it's not. I've also observed that the cream of the crop on SA in Bogota is not quite at the level of Medellin, and I think that works in Medellin's favor, since the high level of competition among the hottest girls means they have a lower ceiling at how much they can charge. A lot of 8's and 9's in Bogota want the same amound of money as 10's in Medellin. Although it's really hard to compare just on photos and price since you don't know what the service will be like.

[Woodman09]

Ok Woodman, I understand your take.

They just never seem even attempting to intimidate me.
Just convince me, Lol, and yes, they can be pushy, but no more than the guys on the other street trying to get you in their clubs.
Imo theyre not intimidating type guys.

I just say some joke and they laugh and I move on.
I personally don't think they're dickheads, at least not the guys I've dealt with.
You're obviously entitled to your opinion tho.

And I don't trust them either. I don't trust anyone I meet in Colombia, Lol.

I've been going down there too much too, but I do get along better with the guys on 16 a much better.

I tip a lot of those guys but when they start acting entitled is the problem.

[JjBee62]

I remember an SA girl / in law school who lived with Mom. She always had to be home by 8-9 pm. Yep really. I used to give her a hard time, saying can't you just get a note from Mom to meet me? Then she shows up driving her Mom's Mercedes. I was quite after that. Almost felt I was out of my league.

Another SA girl finishing flight attendant school. Show's up in her uniform! Sexy!

And recently in Medellin. An actual model who has me take photos for her IG account and tells me if we go out in public people here know me and we will get "looks".

A violinist / gymnast / blond in Bog who was sales & marketing director for a Russian company that no one would do business with anymore. Sang to me in French. Has an actual Visa. wow was good in bed.

All these girls are bilingual. All can do without. So they are extremely picky. And yes they also expect $ at first. Later maybe not. Good luck to the guys who understand. Now ff only I could figure out this FB game. I want to use my real account. Any ideas?

As someone who uses their real account, I don't recommend it. Eventually everyone on your regular friend lust will be receiving messages and friend requests from Colombianas. If that might cause you problems I recommend getting a new tablet, using it to set up a new Facebook account and only use that tablet for your alter ego.

Once you have a lot of connections in Medellin you can start finding a few in Bogota, but it's not as common.

[AmorPorFavor]

Technically, if no money were discussed prior to a date, you don't owe her shit. In this case, you pay whatever amount you find reasonable or not pay at all, if you feel like she is a non pro and doesn't care about the money. Here is what I usually do:

1. If a girl tells me her hourly / nightly rate, with or without extra charge for BBBJ, etc. I pass on her. Not interested in pros. Even if her price is within my budget.

2. If a girl doesn't give me a quote but asks me what my offer is, I give her a wide range. Say, 250 k to 500 k cop. I proceed to tell her how I see our date going, without going too much into detail, and that the better chemistry we have and the longer she stays with me, the more I will pay (within the range). I also like to tell that if all goes great, I would love to see her on a regular basis. All of these is used to motivate a girl.

3. If a girl doesn't mention price at all, I don't mention it either. In this case I treat her like a non pro and look forward to a normal date, which sometimes ends at my place, but not always.

I get your point, we all know these crazy stories when a hooker gets mad and calls police or threatens you, but I think these girls fall into the first category, they are easy to weed out. Categorie 2 and 3 girls usually are not drama queens and probably won't cause you any problems. If you pay her below her expected price, chances are you won't see her again, which might be a good or bad thing. When I go on a date, I usually meet a girl in a public place, we go out for drinks or dinner, and spend some time to get to know each other. If the date doesn't go well and I feel like she might cause problems, I call it a night and go back to my apartment alone, you are better off losing a few bucks on dinner than having some drama or police involved at your place.

This is great advice. Thanks.

[DonCarlos1234]

Technically, if no money were discussed prior to a date, you don't owe her shit. In this case, you pay whatever amount you find reasonable or not pay at all, if you feel like she is a non pro and doesn't care about the money. Here is what I usually do:

I remember an SA girl / in law school who lived with Mom. She always had to be home by 8-9 pm. Yep really. I used to give her a hard time, saying can't you just get a note from Mom to meet me? Then she shows up driving her Mom's Mercedes. I was quite after that. Almost felt I was out of my league.

Another SA girl finishing flight attendant school. Show's up in her uniform! Sexy!

And recently in Medellin. An actual model who has me take photos for her IG account and tells me if we go out in public people here know me and we will get "looks".

A violinist / gymnast / blond in Bog who was sales & marketing director for a Russian company that no one would do business with anymore. Sang to me in French. Has an actual Visa. wow was good in bed.

All these girls are bilingual. All can do without. So they are extremely picky. And yes they also expect $ at first. Later maybe not. Good luck to the guys who understand. Now ff only I could figure out this FB game. I want to use my real account. Any ideas?

[Tom Dick 69]

Bogota to Cucuta / Bucaramanga / Cali / Medellin by bus: I was interested in night bus from Bogota to Cucuta. I got following information from inquiring at Bogota bus terminus. The list is in the order of the booths in terminal, from left to right.

Berlinas: 100 k to Cucuta, buses at 4:45 pm, 5:45 pm (piso 2 bus), 7:10 pm, 8:55 pm, 10:15 pm, 12 midnight.

65 k to Bucaramanga, buses at 7:30 am, 8:30 am, 9:45 am.

No bus to Cali or Medellin.

Bolivariano: Cali bus at 7:30 pm, 8 pm, 9:30 pm, and 10 pm (piso 2 bus).

Medellin bus at 6:40 pm (?77 k), 9 pm (?87 k), 12 midnight (piso 2 bus).

Cucuta last bus at 5:30 pm.

No bus to Bucaramanga.

Copetran: 170 k to Cucuta, buses at 7:20 pm, 8:20 pm, 11:10 pm.

105 k to Bucaramanga, buses at 6, 6:40,7:20,8. I think all are morning bus.

No bus to Cali or Medelling.

Omega: 100 k to Cucuta, buses at 6:10 pm, 8:15 pm, 9:40 pm.

70 k to Bucaramanga, buses at 7:45,4:30,10. I think 7:45 am, 4:30 pm, 10 pm.

No bus to Cali or Medellin.

Rapido Ochoa: 85 k to Medellin, buses at 4:30 pm /6:30 pm, 9 pm, 10:30 pm.

Libertadores: No bus to Cucuta / Cali / Medellin. Only small van to Bucaramanga.

Rapido El Carmen: No bus to Cucuta / Bucaramanga / Cali / Medellin.

Reina: Bucaramanga buses at 6 am, 9 am. No bus to Cucuta / Cali / Medellin.

Cotrans: 80 k to Cucuta, bus at 11 pm. No bus to Bucaramanga / Cali / Medellin.

Expreso Brasilia: No bus to Cucuta / Cali. 90 k to Medellin. No morning bus to Medellin / Bucaramanga.

Flota Rionegro: No bus to Cucuta / Bucaramanga / Cali / Medellin.

Concorde: 80 k to Cucuta, buses at 6 pm, 7 pm, 8 pm, 10 pm.

Bucaramanga buses at 4:30 pm, 6:50 pm, 9 am.

No bus to Cali / Medellin.

Macarena /'Expreso Favito'Trans Alianza': No bus to Cucuta / Bucaramanga / Cali / Medellin.

Flota Magdalena: Cali buses at 8:30 am, 10 am, 12 noon, 2:30 pm.

Medelling buses at 6:20 am, 8:40 am, 10 am.

I took the night bus from Bucaramanga to Cucuta, and can confirm that the above information for Bogota to Cucuta was valid.

I took 11:10 pm bus for 100 k (don't remember which bus), but the bus travelled through Bucaramanga, which is a longer route. So, I guess the buses charging 80 k from Bogota to Cucuta would take the direct / shorter route.

[JjBee62]

Got it! Thanks.

I like all pros. Semi, regular, part time, full time, union, Lol

Except for hardened pros of course.

If you soak the hardened ones in hydrogen peroxide diluted with water they'll soften up.

At least it works with ear wax.

[Balboa]

Semi-pro. Someone who doesn't do this for living. Like a college girl living with her parents trying to earn a few bucks to buy a new dress or a purse.

Got it! Thanks.

I like all pros. Semi, regular, part time, full time, union, Lol

Except for hardened pros of course. 😬

[MiamiBoy1]

Good plan.

Isn't girl in option 2 a pro as well? 🤔 Lol.

I do like your motivation tactics tho.
Enjoy.

Semi-pro. Someone who doesn't do this for living. Like a college girl living with her parents trying to earn a few bucks to buy a new dress or a purse.

[Balboa]

Technically, if no money were discussed prior to a date, you don't owe her shit. In this case, you pay whatever amount you find reasonable or not pay at all, if you feel like she is a non pro and doesn't care about the money. Here is what I usually do:

1. If a girl tells me her hourly / nightly rate, with or without extra charge for BBBJ, etc. I pass on her. Not interested in pros. Even if her price is within my budget.

2. If a girl doesn't give me a quote but asks me what my offer is, I give her a wide range. Say, 250 k to 500 k cop. I proceed to tell her how I see our date going, without going too much into detail, and that the better chemistry we have and the longer she stays with me, the more I will pay (within the range). I also like to tell that if all goes great, I would love to see her on a regular basis. All of these is used to motivate a girl.l

Good plan.

Isn't girl in option 2 a pro as well? 🤔 Lol.

I do like your motivation tactics tho.
Enjoy.

[MiamiBoy1]

This is great insight. I just have one concern. When doing things your favorite way as stated above, aren't you opening yourself up to the risk that the girl will ask for something unreasonable after the deed is done? This could lead to trouble if you don't comply from what I understand. It sounds like a the a high risk high reward type deal. I'm just trying to understand as I'm still putting together my plan of attack if you will. I'd love to try it your way on the contingency you have some sort of best practice to mitigate the risk that seem obvious to me. Keep in mind I've never been to Colombia and I know just enough Spanish to tell the locals confidently that I don't know Spanish. I say that to say, I maybe looking at this wrong and I urge you to correct me if that is the case.

Technically, if no money were discussed prior to a date, you don't owe her shit. In this case, you pay whatever amount you find reasonable or not pay at all, if you feel like she is a non pro and doesn't care about the money. Here is what I usually do:

1. If a girl tells me her hourly / nightly rate, with or without extra charge for BBBJ, etc. I pass on her. Not interested in pros. Even if her price is within my budget.

2. If a girl doesn't give me a quote but asks me what my offer is, I give her a wide range. Say, 250 k to 500 k cop. I proceed to tell her how I see our date going, without going too much into detail, and that the better chemistry we have and the longer she stays with me, the more I will pay (within the range). I also like to tell that if all goes great, I would love to see her on a regular basis. All of these is used to motivate a girl.

3. If a girl doesn't mention price at all, I don't mention it either. In this case I treat her like a non pro and look forward to a normal date, which sometimes ends at my place, but not always.

I get your point, we all know these crazy stories when a hooker gets mad and calls police or threatens you, but I think these girls fall into the first category, they are easy to weed out. Categorie 2 and 3 girls usually are not drama queens and probably won't cause you any problems. If you pay her below her expected price, chances are you won't see her again, which might be a good or bad thing. When I go on a date, I usually meet a girl in a public place, we go out for drinks or dinner, and spend some time to get to know each other. If the date doesn't go well and I feel like she might cause problems, I call it a night and go back to my apartment alone, you are better off losing a few bucks on dinner than having some drama or police involved at your place.

[Marxh]

I am curious about best practice as well as some don't want to say anything. Some just say that they want benefits. So I'm not sure, but assume l, they want to be wined and dined, travel, and so on. Someone mentioned this before, but I did get one who was not happy about offering an hourly rate. She was okay with a longer date. I'm guessing it's like sugar dating.

Got PM now so feel free to message me as well on your experiences, tips, advices if you don't want to post.

This is great insight. I just have one concern. When doing things your favorite way as stated above, aren't you opening yourself up to the risk that the girl will ask for something unreasonable after the deed is done? This could lead to trouble if you don't comply from what I understand. It sounds like a the a high risk high reward type deal. I'm just trying to understand as I'm still putting together my plan of attack if you will. I'd love to try it your way on the contingency you have some sort of best practice to mitigate the risk that seem obvious to me. Keep in mind I've never been to Colombia and I know just enough Spanish to tell the locals confidently that I don't know Spanish. I say that to say, I maybe looking at this wrong and I urge you to correct me if that is the case.

[Balboa]

They don't intimidate me-- THey attempt to- and they are too pushy-- Personally I don't like DickHeads like that. And I do not trust them at all-.

Ok Woodman, I understand your take.

They just never seem even attempting to intimidate me.
Just convince me, Lol, and yes, they can be pushy, but no more than the guys on the other street trying to get you in their clubs.
Imo theyre not intimidating type guys.

I just say some joke and they laugh and I move on.
I personally don't think they're dickheads, at least not the guys I've dealt with.
You're obviously entitled to your opinion tho.

And I don't trust them either. I don't trust anyone I meet in Colombia, Lol.

[QualitySmut]

Some girls, especially those just starting out, have no clue how much to ask. They don't know what going rates are. Pros will quote a price before you even say Hi. Seeking / Tinder / FB girls that are new to this, usually would like a guy to make a first move. Some girls prefer not to discuss price at all and just hope they will be taken care of. This is my favorite audience, because I prefer my relationships to feel less transactional.

This is great insight. I just have one concern. When doing things your favorite way as stated above, aren't you opening yourself up to the risk that the girl will ask for something unreasonable after the deed is done? This could lead to trouble if you don't comply from what I understand. It sounds like a the a high risk high reward type deal. I'm just trying to understand as I'm still putting together my plan of attack if you will. I'd love to try it your way on the contingency you have some sort of best practice to mitigate the risk that seem obvious to me. Keep in mind I've never been to Colombia and I know just enough Spanish to tell the locals confidently that I don't know Spanish. I say that to say, I maybe looking at this wrong and I urge you to correct me if that is the case.

[MiamiBoy1]

A lot of guys report doing it by making the first offer. I think they see it as they are offering some type of "going rate" or even a rate that is cheaper than back home. But I am like how do you know she would not have told you a lower price if you had not made the offer first?

Do people really set out to buy cars or houses and just walk up and offer the owner a price without asking how much they want for it first? If there is anything I have learned from reading this board it is that a lot of guys treat buying pussy different than they do buying anything else.

Some girls, especially those just starting out, have no clue how much to ask. They don't know what going rates are. Pros will quote a price before you even say Hi. Seeking / Tinder / FB girls that are new to this, usually would like a guy to make a first move. Some girls prefer not to discuss price at all and just hope they will be taken care of. This is my favorite audience, because I prefer my relationships to feel less transactional.