Bogota Reports

[Woodman09]

LOL you helped talk me out of visiting HKTJ. (almost) but it has changed immensely. The best looking girls from all over Mexico are there. But you have to get lucky to grab one before they get attacked by all those gringos. It's also cleaner than Sante Fe. See you soon.

In Santa Fe where I really am bothered by the broken dirty streets but at least there are Super Hot Girls waiting for me rather than 'you have to get lucky to grab one before they get attacked by all those gringos. ' Have fun 'Getting Lucky'.

[JustTK]

Her exact words were " when we first met you were my first American I ever met, Now I know different and men need to pay me 250. She went from a non pro to hardened pro. The guys who are the biggest problem are the ones who comes once a year and couldn't get laid in the states with a fist full of Fifties. And get stupid over some hot pussy.

Sure, I half agree. But the other half of the problem is guys who complain when hookers, who pretend who to be girlfrriends, become hookers again. If you choose a girl and she stays w you for money, you are always going to run the risk that she or you will pull the plug for money.

[MaddTraveler]

I always mention supply and demand in a few of my posts. One thing about Bogota is the larger supply of regular girls. I don't attach myself to any of these girls. I have always stayed out from girls who would quote me in dollars. If it does not suit me, I will simply move on to the next one.

I thought we got into this hobby to avoid dealing with the harsh realities of women (not just western ones, they're simply worse), not to get emotional nor deal with their BS in general?

Not talking about your comment, you're doing exactly what most should do, move on. And as you said don't get attached, and prev post said BOG has the largest pop in WG so I'm so confused on why people come here to complaint about tricks acting up LOL. Ok I get it we can vent a bit.

But outside of venting, some fellas come here and you can tell they're literally crying. I know the emotions we read are real, bc few readers misunderstood my recent trip reports and I got 3 rude PMs accusing me of ruining their lives, all for tipping at a club, said I was messing up the game. Like the girls won't accept their budgeted offer no longer.

One of the Vets here recently posted some common sense on this, that a guy would come here to cry about seeing fewer avail girls at a usual spot, whom would even claim there were couple he could do yet come here to cry in tears. And the Vet's comment / reply was what's the point of the complaint when you just need to fuck one? I mean we read similar posts all the time. Ha I went to SF there was only 2 doable girls, I hate SF, that's it, my life is over due to a wg shortage, blah blah, and I'm like well just fuck the 2 doable ones or one you see and be happy. Why TF is the complaint and petty rant necessary? Not like y'all some pornstars who's going to go on a viagra rampage to fuck 5 girls in an orgy daily, while clearly on a budget since strolling the low cost streets LOL.

This is my 2 cents on this, there is way too much pussy in Col and bordering countries to be worrying a wg or worse getting attached to one, 10 or not.

[DonCarlos1234]

I used to Live in Chula Vista Back in the 90's when Tijuana was a lot different-- before the Hong Kong club was all the way through the block and Adelitas was the best club.

You could session for $30-$40 and the street girls back then were like a basic 3-4 for $5.

I always liked women in Colombia way better-- Mucho Mas Suave.

Mexico is so much more predatory then Colombia. And you want to talk about used up women-- They get boned by the whole USA every weekend and charge way more.

I was there like 2010 and it was ok-- Not sure how it is now-- But Santa Fe has always been way better.

I know I do tours and have an interest in promoting SF. Don't take my word for it--the Vast Majority of guys I have toured SF with have had great experiences as written here in recent reports.

I started flying out of Tijuana to Havana, that was fun. I would do that rather than go to Tijuana.

Good luck to all with your GFE dreams!!

LOL you helped talk me out of visiting HKTJ. (almost) but it has changed immensely. The best looking girls from all over Mexico are there. But you have to get lucky to grab one before they get attacked by all those gringos. It's also cleaner than Sante Fe. See you soon.

[Ggekko2009]

I would rule out her asking 250 just for me to leave her alone. We have had many conversations over the years and we know each other very well. In fact we never even discussed money or time for that matter ever, in the past. I'm sure she would accept a little less but just the though of her asking me for 250 pissed me off. Her exact words were " when we first met you were my first American I ever met, Now I know different and men need to pay me 250. She went from a non pro to hardened pro. The guys who are the biggest problem are the ones who comes once a year and couldn't get laid in the states with a fist full of Fifties. And get stupid over some hot pussy.

I always mention supply and demand in a few of my posts. One thing about Bogota is the larger supply of regular girls. I don't attach myself to any of these girls. I have always stayed out from girls who would quote me in dollars. If it does not suit me, I will simply move on to the next one.

[DonCarlos1234]

I would rule out her asking 250 just for me to leave her alone. We have had many conversations over the years and we know each other very well. In fact we never even discussed money or time for that matter ever, in the past. I'm sure she would accept a little less but just the though of her asking me for 250 pissed me off. Her exact words were " when we first met you were my first American I ever met, Now I know different and men need to pay me 250. She went from a non pro to hardened pro. The guys who are the biggest problem are the ones who comes once a year and couldn't get laid in the states with a fist full of Fifties. And get stupid over some hot pussy.

You are not alone. It took a lot of time to find my attorney girl and I had so called "friends" beg me for her number. Last trip I said Hi to her and she said she had covid. We talked. (she speaks English) a week later she asks me for $ (no meet up, no dinner, no date etc.) so I replied let's wait till you feel better. Then I get a message, "if you can't send me $ I don't want to have sex with you anymore" I looked at her IG account. She was posting photos by the pool (during covid) I think to find a higher dollar player. I decided she wasn't worth the extra effort. Yes she's a 10. Sorry to see her go but this is another reason why too many guys worshiping these girls gives them ideas. I might message her on my next trip and see how all that covid / pool photos / new guys turned out. She's not the only one but was one of the best looking.

[JjBee62]

I would rule out her asking 250 just for me to leave her alone. We have had many conversations over the years and we know each other very well. In fact we never even discussed money or time for that matter ever, in the past. I'm sure she would accept a little less but just the though of her asking me for 250 pissed me off. Her exact words were " when we first met you were my first American I ever met, Now I know different and men need to pay me 250. She went from a non pro to hardened pro. The guys who are the biggest problem are the ones who comes once a year and couldn't get laid in the states with a fist full of Fifties. And get stupid over some hot pussy.

I'm not trying to start anything, but if she was a non-pro and you started teaching her that she can get 200 k for fucking gringos, then part of the fault falls on you. It's only a matter of time before a girl starts wondering how much she can get on the open market.

With a pro, for example the girls in SF, a couple of gringos overpaying might make them try to get more from gringos, but at the end of the day, if they don't get customers they don't eat.

Non-pros are doing it for fun, for extra money or to snag a long-term deal. Selling the pussy isn't necessary. They can go where the money is, or go for whatever is more important to them.

It sucks when it happens to you, but you write her off and move on to the next.

[LatinaLover#1]

Damn! I take it this isn't a sg or bg and an escort type girl? Who goes to Bogota and pays $250? Wonder if she's trying to send a message or if she wants out of the field?? Personally if a girl told me $250 for anything, unless I'm filming porn and banging her in the ass as well as COF and a multitude of other things I'the walk away and move onto the next one. No girl is worth that much when there's loads more out there.

Sorry to hear bro. Good luck in the new relationship.

I would rule out her asking 250 just for me to leave her alone. We have had many conversations over the years and we know each other very well. In fact we never even discussed money or time for that matter ever, in the past. I'm sure she would accept a little less but just the though of her asking me for 250 pissed me off. Her exact words were " when we first met you were my first American I ever met, Now I know different and men need to pay me 250. She went from a non pro to hardened pro. The guys who are the biggest problem are the ones who comes once a year and couldn't get laid in the states with a fist full of Fifties. And get stupid over some hot pussy.

[DaVinci40]

Some Pendejo, traveling to Bogota has way over paid this girl in Bogota. She's super hot, and doesn't know the word NO! I have known her for 4 or more years, She has always been happy with 200,000 but today she informed me that she now wants 250+ usd.

Damn! I take it this isn't a sg or bg and an escort type girl? Who goes to Bogota and pays $250? Wonder if she's trying to send a message or if she wants out of the field?? Personally if a girl told me $250 for anything, unless I'm filming porn and banging her in the ass as well as COF and a multitude of other things I'the walk away and move onto the next one. No girl is worth that much when there's loads more out there.

Sorry to hear bro. Good luck in the new relationship.

[LatinaLover#1]

Some Pendejo, traveling to Bogota has way over paid this girl in Bogota. She's super hot, and doesn't know the word NO! I have known her for 4 or more years, She has always been happy with 200,000 but today she informed me that she now wants 250+ usd because some asshole was giving her that amount so now she wants that much all the time. I know it was someone on this board or more than one because you posted her photo on here. I have a fiance who is moving to the USA in January, so I don't believe I'll be traveling here as much as I use to, so no skin off my nose but I did want to hit one of my old favorites this week but I WON"T PAY USA prices for a Colombiana. I've hate to monger anywhere other Americans or Euros or Asians have been because they always fuck up the apple cart. Why save your breath, anyone can pay what they want,. Bla bla bla I got it, I heard it all before but it doesn't take long to ruin the whole deal. I don't go to SF because it's cheap, I don't go because it's not my thing. But there are a lot of SF guys on this board and I wonder if some ass was going to SF and started giving those girls $200 a rattle, how long before that whole deal would collapse. I still have some very hot, professional women I can contact next week when I'm in town for a last hurray so I'll survive but to the newbees, don't overpay or eventually you will ruin the deal for yourselves.

I have see it happen in Brazil when the xchange rate was good, lots of inexperienced guys flocking to Brazil and over paying in Help, they fucked that up and forget CR they fucked that up years ago.

Time to go to Paraguay or Uruguay or Bolivia where the gringos seldom roam.

[Chicago85]

Hello,

Could anyone say something fresh on Bogota and Medelline Real Estate? Price, area to buy, Bogota via Medelline, agents, etc?

Thanks.

As others have noted, I'd look at FB. I've had some luck in Medellin, but it's because I bought my properties 6 to 7 years ago, did airbnb, and was able to sell in the past couple years. What you need to keep in mind is that 95% of real estate is still driven by Colombians and there is a large amount of currency risk.

[Tom Dick 69]

The trip was done in May'19, though the report is late (COVID lockdowns, recently changed my username from my real name), I hope it could be useful to someone.

I am an Asian (brown skin), don't know spanish.

I travelled from USA to Bogota for a 3 day trip. My trip purpose was just to get the feel of Colombia to plan for future. I reached BOG on Friday morning, and took return flight to USA on Sunday late night.

I read ISG forums, but Routard's 'Bogota guide' post itself was good enough. He published guide with updated info every 6 months or so. I stayed in Viaggio Vierry as he suggested in the guide.

Immigration: The form was completely in Spanish, nothing in English. Using spanish translator app, somehow filled the form. There were very few in the foreigners immiagration queue. The visa officer didn't speak english, so she went inside then brought me inside. Another visa officer who spoke english talked with me. Even with all the necessary documents for entry (Passport, visa, return ticket, stay) and visit purpose is tourism, he asked me where I work. Then he approved entry, for 90 days stay.

ATM at airport: I think there were 1 or 2 ATMs at the lower level arrivals, but I found 3 or 4 ATMs in the upper level departures are better. Most allowed 300 k withdrawal, maybe atleast one allowed 900 k. Anyway, you can withdraw multiple times. Atleast 1 ATM allowed fee free withdrawal.

Airport to hotel: You could buy transmileno (Bogota bus system) card just outside airport itself, and add money to it. Or take a taxi, which is regulated. Still the driver charged me like 43 k pesos though meter showed 38 k pesos, saying 5 k was for airport pickup. It was only 5 k (2), so didn't argue.

I could cover most of the places just by walk or with the help of bus. I felt safe, even at night in Centro and Zona Norte area. Have some common safety precaution, like don't flash money or phone in the street. Santa Fe downtown street walkers zone was safe during day time.

Friday and Saturday: I did most of stuff in day time and evenings. All sessions are deemed finished after 1st shot, and most girls, especially at Santa Fe street girls, try their best to get 1st shot ASAP. They are experts on this.

Sunday: I was already exhausted on Friday and Saturday deeds, and most of the recommended places were closed on Sunday. So, I woke up late, checkout my hotel, went to the mezzanine for massage. I had 1 hour massage for 100 k.

[Questner]

Hello,

Could anyone say something fresh on Bogota and Medelline Real Estate? Price, area to buy, Bogota via Medelline, agents, etc?

Thanks.

Fresh: Investor RE visas to be eliminated.

https://www.colombiavisas.com/colomb...cation-freeze/

The country is going into recession.

Everything else remains the same: you will get your dollar into COP. As Cramer says 'Don't buy! Don't buy!

[TooRop88]

I know many guys who have stayed in Airbnb no safe without problem-- The Ibis Museo is a favorite if you want to be near Santa Fe, the other is San Francisco -- Many Airbnb in this area too-.

Many cheaper hotels in the area too.

Hotel Grace in Chapinero-- But check about guests.

https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/liv...al&type=total&

And https://jalo.com.co/en/72hub-apartments/.

Good luck.

Thank you for advice, the Ibis Museo looks good for me, if you can recommend them for their guest-policy.

[Woodman09]

Hello,

Could anyone say something fresh on Bogota and Medellin Real Estate? Price, area to buy, Bogota via Medellin, agents, etc?

Thanks.

Lotta expat owners / info on FB groups -- you should check there.