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  1. #14454

    Zona T / Olimpo VIP

    My buddy and I rented an apartment Saturday and Sunday nights just north of Calle 85 across from the Four Seasons hotel. It was a perfect base to enjoy the Colombian party scene, Zona T. The area was packed on Saturday, less so on Sunday.

    There are four monger clubs in the immediate area. It's no trouble finding them because there are touts everywhere handing out cards, and one guy walked us through three of them. They were all similar: very brightly lit, fairly empty bars with a few guys and 10 to 20 girls. When you enter a bell rings and the girls stand up, pick one, and then they sit down and look bored. A room upstairs costs 200-250 mil pesos an hour, and the girls are from 300-500 mil, maybe quoting more initially.

    In Olimpo VIP I hooked up with a pretty 24 year old spinner, Andrea, while my wingman waited for me. We agreed BBBJ and GFE for 300 mil pesos (actually 250 + 50 if I came, which I told her would be a challenge for an old geezer like me.) She was a great fuck and gave awesome head. The room was fine and had a bathroom with shower.

    A few caveats: Andrea kept trying to pull shit which I had to deal with firmly. First she insisted I pay upfront, then she said the BJ was with condom, finally she said we had agreed to 600 mil. I'm coming to believe this may be the way Colombians operate. I speak clear Spanish and I'm very explicit about terms beforehand so she backed down each time, and it didn't affect my experience.

    Secondly the drinks in these places cost 50 mil pesos. We had five drinks but the total came to 350 mil after taxes and mark ups. Less than $100 US for two guys and treating girls, but just be aware since that's a lot for Colombia.

    I'll add more in another post.

  2. #14453
    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    It was free for a long time-- How much were they charging?
    Minimal. Pretty sure it was under 5 dollars, World Travel can chime in and tell us exactly. I'm not sure if that was the price per map or for access to all his maps.

    Either way, my plan is to start a map with the idea that I will never charge for access and the data underlying the map will always be available and free, anyone can download the data and feel free to start their own map. Should they feel the inclination.

  3. #14452

    LOL-- people pay for that??

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Anyone interested in a new Bogota map? I'm thinking of starting one. All due respect to the WT69 and the work he's put in over the years and I understand the desire to earn from the work hes put in. , but for many reasons I don't think we should be paying for these maps.
    It was free for a long time-- How much were they charging?

  4. #14451
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    After well over 2000 chicks the special and memorable fantasy shit has worn off. Besides, are these hookers in search of something memorable with us? To me it is like flying. People that do not fly often or do not know you fly often always ask how was the flight. To people that fly often it is just like every other flight so there is no need to ask. We are not going to be like it was so amazing. You should have seen it. Same with hookers. I have had my dick sucked, ass licked, and cum swallowed so many times that it is nothing to get excited about and nothing that I have to make sure the girl will do before choosing her.

    I bother because I know how to make my own fun and still have a good time. I am not fucking chicks to have something to remember in the future. I am fucking them to have fun today.

    Yesterday on 2 different occasions I walked into a massage parlor (here in Ethiopia) and chose chicks by doing no kind of research or asking any kind of questions. In each 1 hour session the massage was $5 and the fucking was $10. Great time had with both chicks, but will go to other spots today to try some different chicks in the same manner. No research and no questions.
    Not that I count but I'm probably somewhere around 1. 5 k mark and it's not that I am out there to make memories as my primary objective, I don't since I am not spend time on reliving the past experiences, there are better things to do (unless something bad happened then I try to see what can I learn from it and move on), if it is memorable then it's a byproduct. I am here to have fun now, on day-to-day basis.

    You seem to sound like you just take whatever random chic, with no decision making or pause and can still have fun. If you can have fun with a dead cow or some argumentative girl or a saggy tits baby damaged one then good for you. I can't have fun nor fuck 'any' chick, it's a two-way street for me. Doesn't matter if got my dick sucked by a thousand chics in the past, if the one I'm with now refuses to do it then I still care about the annoyance, I could've been spending this time with another one that does and knows how to suck it, and the day only has so many hours left before it's over.

    I'm not going to put an effort and spend my limited time to try to have fun experience with one that gives me a bitchy attitude or a cold shoulder, she doesn't deserve any time, attention nor money in my book, I prefer to put a minimum effort beforehand to dismiss and forget those instantly and move to another one.

    Since I assume you looked at the chics in the parlor then you did some research, you didn't come in and said to mamasan 'send me whoever, I don't care'. Even if you'd say that, you still made a decision to use a business, so some kind of minimum standard of looks and service is already assumed and expected and the chics have been preselected by the business.

    And it's not that I spend hours researching it, looking at photos or discussing the service, I don't even bother to do online stuff, all in need is couple moments of IRL interaction to see if she's good enough, I don't need to talk if it's a casa, but I do need to look at her face and body and preferably have some interaction. Well, anyway, you do you, since it works for you, and I'll do me, since it works me.

  5. #14450
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Anyone interested in a new Bogota map? I'm thinking of starting one. All due respect to the WT69 and the work he's put in over the years and I understand the desire to earn from the work hes put in. , but for many reasons I don't think we should be paying for these maps.
    Absolutely. Please start. The problem with WT69's maps is not just the cost but also the loss of privacy as a result of PayPal payment.

  6. #14449

    My Maps

    They were free.

    Google did not like my maps.

    I had them open to all.

    I did not realize that they were open to all, including Children.

    So, I had to make it Private for Adults only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Anyone interested in a new Bogota map? I'm thinking of starting one. All due respect to the WT69 and the work he's put in over the years and I understand the desire to earn from the work hes put in. , but for many reasons I don't think we should be paying for these maps.

  7. #14448
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Anyone interested in a new Bogota map? I'm thinking of starting one. All due respect to the WT69 and the work he's put in over the years and I understand the desire to earn from the work hes put in. , but for many reasons I don't think we should be paying for these maps.
    It does not hurt to have one specifically for the newbies but please only indicate the well known and well ruined places.

    I agree that if one does a map, this should not to make money but to share with a community.

    That being said I have discovered a lot of places that are not on any map over the years and I would be reluctant to add them on a map, my concern is that the places become quickly flooded by american who think they own the world with their dollars and see the places ruined as many places before.

  8. #14447
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnieCash  [View Original Post]
    All of the breaths are essentially the same and unmemorable, so if that's you're experience with women then why even bother if it makes no difference.
    After well over 2000 chicks the special and memorable fantasy shit has worn off. Besides, are these hookers in search of something memorable with us? To me it is like flying. People that do not fly often or do not know you fly often always ask how was the flight. To people that fly often it is just like every other flight so there is no need to ask. We are not going to be like it was so amazing. You should have seen it. Same with hookers. I have had my dick sucked, ass licked, and cum swallowed so many times that it is nothing to get excited about and nothing that I have to make sure the girl will do before choosing her.

    I bother because I know how to make my own fun and still have a good time. I am not fucking chicks to have something to remember in the future. I am fucking them to have fun today.

    Yesterday on 2 different occasions I walked into a massage parlor (here in Ethiopia) and chose chicks by doing no kind of research or asking any kind of questions. In each 1 hour session the massage was $5 and the fucking was $10. Great time had with both chicks, but will go to other spots today to try some different chicks in the same manner. No research and no questions.

  9. #14446

    New Bogota Map

    Anyone interested in a new Bogota map? I'm thinking of starting one. All due respect to the WT69 and the work he's put in over the years and I understand the desire to earn from the work hes put in. , but for many reasons I don't think we should be paying for these maps.

  10. #14445

    Question About Encounters VIP Diamond Club

    Howdy, I'm doing a quick trip to Bogota in March for a few days. I will be staying in Chapinero.

    I've read the forum going back 6 months, and given my preference for GFE and short stay, an agency seems like the best bet. I'll still drop by Santa Fe to sightsee, but probably won't partake in anything since strip clubs don't do much for me.

    Out of all the agencies, I like the girls on Encounters VIP the most. For me the most important physical aspect of a girl is her face, but all agency girls have their faces blurred. Apparently Encounters has a Diamond club where you can see the girl's face unblurred. Anybody know how to join this club or how much it cost?

    Also it seem like La Celestina has something similar as well, any details on either La Celestina or Encounters would be appreciated.

  11. #14444
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Just like we do not walk into a restaurant and gawk at other people's plates before we decide to sit down and ask for a menu. We sit down, ask for menu, order, eat. If we liked the meal then cool. If not, fuck it. It will not be the only meal of our lives.
    Restaurant is an established business with some social trust, some people eating, as well as often some online reviews (so more like a casa or club), not a rando on the internet offering to sell you some burgers "trust me bro, those are not minced stray dogs" (an online freelancer).

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Because for some of us it is like taking a breath of air (we will take another right after and not even remember a breath taken 3 weeks ago) and not like buying a house that we are going to have to live in for the next 30 years.

    I get it though. If you are only doing it once a year or every few years, then you may be more picky of how you want things to be.
    All of the breaths are essentially the same and unmemorable, so if that's you're experience with women then why even bother if it makes no difference. Anyway taking a breath is a bad analogy since it is something automatic and fundamentally out of your control, yes, you can play with a bit to a certain extent, but you cannot not take it for extended period of time (and live).

    I for one have a limited amount of time (and breaths / meals) remaining in this life, less with each day, so I care if someone wastes it, I aim for every day to be an enjoyable or at least educational experience. The dud takes the time of good one, or other enjoyable activities, and that time won't be returned. With an IRL mongering at least I can grab another right away to rescue the day and it takes but a couple minutes to research, discuss and arrange it, so not like buying a house at all, nor like the endless / pointless discussions and unknown wait times & no shows when doing it online. The only advantage of a dud is that it makes me appreciate the good ones by comparison, so as long it happens rarely it still has some benefits in my book.

  12. #14443

    STD test

    Quote Originally Posted by ReachJM  [View Original Post]
    I had traveled from NY to Panama last month and had unprotected bbj (oral and no sex) with a Venezuela escort. 4th day onwards got unusual symptoms like confusing headache and others like COVID.

    Returned to NYC and did all sort of tests around 7th day. Nothing was unusual in results.

    Now it is more than a month and some symptoms are there especially itching, tightness, pinching around penis / kidney area and occasionally headache with confusions.

    I need to travel in a day or two to Bogota for about a week and was wondering if I can get tested completely and also meet any specialist in Colombia. Is it easy and doable within 1 week?

    Or Should I do all tests, followups in NYC itself? But it would go on insurance and will get tracked by family and will stay on records as well..
    You can get tested through https://www.stdcheck.com. 139 $ full panel, it's completely anonymous.

  13. #14442

    Next week

    Will be at the Suites next week. Would be glad to meet for advice on the area. Good pharmacy. Sex store, online recommendations and the like.

  14. #14441
    Quote Originally Posted by CasaNoVa  [View Original Post]
    Some girls are worried / paranoid that when on all fours the guy may decide to slip off the condom without them noticing. Also you never know what kinda day theyve been having or what client experiences they may have just had to get through before you. Sometimes if they are super hot I give them another chance another day and 50/50 the service is way more GFE.
    Whatever the reason whether paranoia or a bad day she should know that he is not going to be a repeat client.

  15. #14440
    Quote Originally Posted by SlowBlow  [View Original Post]
    I don't have high expectations, I really don't, but she made zero effort. I've never been with someone who just looked straight ahead and made zero noise. She had a decent body but I don't know who could get turned on when she's clearly not enjoying any of it.

    There was no room for miscommunication, I said "en cuatro", "ponte en cuatro". If she had said "no hago anal" I would have said "vale, no quiero tampoco", but she didn't misunderstand me to mean anal or she would have asked to clarify. I've never heard of anyone refusing to do doggy style. I can't think of a good reason. And now I'm super curious as to why. Anyway after that denial I just wasn't into it at all anyway. And to be clear, I never finished because I was definitely done after she didn't even allow me to finish on her since she clearly was not present for sex.

    But really, I understand not allowing anal, BBBJ, DATY, etc, but if you're going to charge for a service you should maybe at least pretend. The girl after was much much better, gave good kisses, let me finger her, moaned loudly and was talking, all the stuff that makes you want to keep going.
    Yep, she was not in to it and not even just providing a good experience. A dud, and that happens from time to time. All you can do is move on and call it a day.

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